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Merry Christmas

Christmas tree
hello Anna Frodesiak, Merry Christmas and happy returns of the day, this is in advance. This tree will keep all of our knowledge increasing and increasing, this for every Wikipedian so that they keep helping everybody in the world. Bye

Wish you a great and joyful day! Merry Christmas! BOTFIGHTER (talk) 08:49, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you BOTFIGHTER! May your cranberry sauce not be can-shaped. May your presents be all socks only if those socks are made of gold and diamonds and the receipt is attached. May your chocolate not be that horrid bitter-sweet kind that people sometimes unaccountably select when the milk chocolate, and obviously best choice, is right there next to it. Happy Holidays! Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:05, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and happy new year

Merry Christmas and happy new year. (:

--Pine

Thank you, Pine!!! Happy holidays to you too!! :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:02, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Leon Mann

Hi Anna,

I was just hoping for some more guidance on what exactly the problem was with Leon Mann's wiki page?

If you could get back to me ASAP that would be great.

Best,

Michael — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mlmc12345 (talkcontribs) 01:34, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

I will reply at your talk page. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:53, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

December 2015

Information icon Hello, I'm CatcherStorm. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Elephant meat has been undone because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. CatcherStorm talk 02:19, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

Hahahahaha :) Hi, CatcherStorm. Maybe we should just remove it completely. Who knows what Buddhist's think about elephant meat. :) Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:21, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
Whoops. I think I was rushing through the STiki diff-browser. You can re-add it if you want, sorry. CatcherStorm talk 02:25, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
No need to be sorry. I thought it was funny. :) I've restored it, but now saying "monks" and adding a ref.[1]. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:32, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

Happy Holidays to you, your family and friends. May you have happy editing!

Happy Holidays to you and your family and friends!
May this season bring you joy and happiness and happy editing!.Mark Miller (talk) 02:35, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
Thank you, Mark! Happy Holidays to you too. :) :) :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:26, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

From Simrankaur18

Hi Anna,

I am trying to create a page for a notable person called Aalok Pradhan who works in a Film industry for more than 9 years. He worked as a Director, Film editor & VFX editor. He worked under big companies like Red Chillies Entertainment, Pixeo Studios & All Ad Avatar. He did many projects in his career and has won Awards for editing & management. But still Wikipedia is deleting the page even after giving reliable sources. I have seen many pages in Wikipedia which do not have proper sources but still manage to run on Wikipedia, how?

waiting for a reply

Aalok Pradhan details: Website: www.aalokpradhan.com IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm6765021/

sincerely, Simran Kaur Suprabhat Magazine — Preceding unsigned comment added by Simrankaur18 (talkcontribs) 18:36, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi Simrankaur18.
About other seemingly non-notable articles: Yes, they exist. Some are not notable. Concerning those, please read WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Concerning those without good sources, there may be sources and the subject actually be notable, but those sources have not been added. Subjects should be, at least, "verifiable".
About your subject, Aalok Pradhan: I do not think he is notable. I can find no reliable media sources that discuss him at all. It doesn't matter what he did or who he is. It matters if the media discusses him in detail. Please see WP:42.
About the image File:Aalok Pradhan.jpeg. Please tell me how this is your own work. Where did you get the image?
Best wishes,
Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:26, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

IP Vandals

Someone's pissed off, huh? Is a range block needed, perhaps? c: Amaury (talk) 02:13, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Maybe a bit wide, the word is. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:15, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
A range block is required here. Its definitely a registered user of some kind. I don't know how to do them. Also, if a CU is available, he should block any related accounts. Thse are the IPs used so far:
  • 81.154.132.183
  • 81.154.132.180
  • 81.158.98.166
  • 86.131.23.182
  • 81.154.132.198

The range is localised to a compact area in remote Scotland. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:55, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

I will let them know at the irc admin channel. That is where they said the range is too wide. Cheers! Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:02, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
Based on my limited knowledge of range blocks, using those five (and the block calculator) it would block up to 134,217,728 users. Going from 81.154.132.180/198 would be about 128. Having said that I have never actually done one. --kelapstick(bainuu) 03:05, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
134,217,728 users is more than double the entire population of the United Kingdom. These IPs locate to a remote area of Scotland. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 03:36, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
There have been a couple smaller range blocks applied. --kelapstick(bainuu) 03:41, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

GG/BLP-related edits

Any idea if this might fall under GG sanctions? I'm no expert, but it is definitely a BLP violation. Thanks, GABHello! 04:43, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

I suppressed it. Thanks, GAB, and thanks for the revert! :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:36, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Re

Thanks for reminding both of us. Yes, that is exactly why I only edited/reverted the article twice today so far and did not change the article further. But I think the article should be reverted to the version before the edit war when a consensus is not reached. Thanks! Merry Christmas to you too. --Cartakes (talk) 14:36, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

I also again started the discussion in its talk page. But like last time I don't think User:Smuckola is willing to participate it at all. --Cartakes (talk) 14:50, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

I have responded here. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:20, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for your help since the last time. I think he and I did reach an agreement on the article content by now. Merry Christmas to you all. --Cartakes (talk) 22:03, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
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Remember, giving kittens scotch is a serious matter. Don't take chances this New Year!
I am very pleased you worked it out! Happy Holidays! :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:15, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Block notices

Hi, Anna. Re this guy: maybe I should mention that I deliberately block characters like that without leaving them a talkpage notice. Firstly because I don't want to dignify/feed them, per WP:DENY, and secondly because I don't want the "name" in my contribs list. I mean, face it, it's not like they're gonna make a bona fide unblock request (possibly a trolling one). Of course the downside is that it makes other admins waste time by going to block them… sorry about that. Bishonen | talk 22:33, 28 December 2015 (UTC).

Excellent points, Bishonen. I will do the same from now on. As for wasting admins' time, I don't think so. We all use the strikethrough script, right? (The one that shows blocked usernames in strikethrough italics.) Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:42, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
Of course we do... cough... where can I find that script? Bishonen | talk 22:47, 28 December 2015 (UTC).
Hi Bishonen. I think it is the first one here. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:57, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
Ha, yes. Works very nicely. Thank you! Bishonen | talk 23:01, 28 December 2015 (UTC).
You are most welcome. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:03, 28 December 2015 (UTC)


Question

What percentage of articles are stubs? If it's high, shouldn't we be doing something special with stubs? Viriditas (talk) 13:15, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

Around half are stubs. And yes, we should. What did you have in mind? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:21, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
I have a few ideas. Is there any way to find out if there is a greater number of stubs associated with a specific topic area? For example, are a majority of stubs related to geography? What about species stubs? Obscure films? Is there a way to find out? Viriditas (talk) 02:35, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
Of course. Each Wikiproject has a table of all their articles broken down into stub, A B C, etc. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:24, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
Which project has the greatest number of assessed stubs? Viriditas (talk) 03:45, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
I have no idea. That would require a lot of checking. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:49, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
I'm going to guesstimate that the most stubs are found in geography-related articles. My second guess would be species-related (which is probably wrong), followed by either politics or entertainment. It used to be easy to check this stuff. I think the old toolserver let you check the number of stubs by project in a table/list format, but now the new labs server seems to be down all the time. I just logged into one of the servers as a guest and from what I can tell, it's mostly down due to several errors/failures. Viriditas (talk) 05:36, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
You may be right. So, what's your plan? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:21, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
Just thinking about stubs. For fun. Viriditas (talk) 10:28, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
Think about Stubs Terkel. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:37, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
Think about 500,000 articles with no assessment. What's out there? 11:11, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
I don't know what to say about that. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:13, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
10 percent of all Wikipedia articles are unassessed. I would like to see a breakdown of what we are dealing with. Viriditas (talk) 01:52, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

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Happy New Year!

Happy New Year!
Best wishes for a wonderful 2016! -- WV 23:38, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
Thank you!!! Happy New Year to you too! :) (Please add a close |} to your template! :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:59, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year Anna Frodesiak!

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Soap

Hi Anna. You might want to see (or rather you probably won't want to see) [2], [3] [4]] and [5]. Doug Weller talk 14:53, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi Doug. I have removed the post. For some reason I did not have the arbcom noticeboard watchlisted. Holy moly. I will read it in detail tomorrow. I am just off to bed. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 15:51, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year Anna Frodesiak!

Thank you and Happy new year and rabbits rabbits rabbits to you. 03:38, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Almost New Year (UTC)

Happy New Year!
Hello Anna Frodesiak:

Did you know ... that back in 1885, Wikipedia editors wrote Good Articles with axes, hammers and chisels?

Thank you for your contributions to this encyclopedia using 21st century technology. I hope you don't get any unneccessary blisters.

North America1000 21:37, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Happy New Year elves}} to send this message
A very happy new year to you and yours my friend. :) :) :) Anna F remote (talk) 03:42, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Anna Frodesiak!

Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.
Thank you!!! Have a wonderful new year. Anna F remote (talk) 03:39, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

2016

Happy New Year 2016!
I asked my friends the elves to pose for this card, especially for you Anna. I had to help a bit because they don't know how to write in English, but I think it came out pretty well, don't you?

   –

Best wishes, Invertzoo (talk) 14:17, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Happy New Year and happy holidays and rabbits rabbits rabbits!!!!! :) :) :) Anna F remote (talk) 03:40, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for the rabbits! Invertzoo (talk) 22:27, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Triggering the edit filter

Hi Anna, Today, i edited the page Natalie Pinkham, and added a reference from The Daily Mail (a newspaper in the UK)'s online website using ProveIt (which i use to add references) for my edit, however somehow i triggered edit filter 702. It said that it was for "Clipboard Hijacking" or whatever that is, when i had just entered this source into ProveIt. It then allowed me to save the edit after cutting down the link, because what i had cut and pasted into ProveIt, it had unnecessary things on it, such as (follow us on twitter @TheDailyMail or something like that), however somehow i triggered filter 702 again, but it took no action against me. What I wanted to ask you is how did i trigger this filter for the second time, and what is "Clipboard Hijacking"? Could i be warned/blocked for this in the future when i didn't intend to do so?.

Thanks,

Class455fan1 (talk) 20:15, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi Class455fan1. Wow. I do not know. I'd suggest allowing a talk page stalker here to answer, or even better, asking at Wikipedia:Help desk. Have you used the reference desks? Absolutely the best kept secret on the Internet. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:57, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) @Class455fan1: For future reference, you can report edit filter false positives at Wikipedia:Edit filter/False positives. There's more information about this particular filter at Special:AbuseFilter/702. The notes there explain that clipboard hijacking is a result of copying text on certain websites. Additional text (such as a link back to the original article) is appended to what was copied. I examined the log for your second edit (Special:AbuseLog/14187506), and it looks like there was still superfluous text (starting with "Read more:" followed by a URL), which is why you were warned again. I wouldn't worry if it happens again. Certain edit filters will actually prevent an offending edit from being saved, but this isn't one of them. clpo13(talk) 09:14, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Clpo13! I was just a bit concerned because for some i think you can be blocked for, I'm not sure if you can. Class455fan1 (talk) 10:49, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

IP leaving personal attacks on my page

Hi Anna, Really sorry to bother you again, but i reverted an edit by an IP on New Year Live, as it was unsourced, and i left a warning on the IP's talk page, then he sent me a message on my talk page saying "Why don't you get a life you sicko". I then left the IP a level 2 warning telling the user not to personally attack other editors, but he reverted the edit i made to my talk page, and added to the message "Fucking twat". I will be going on a 5 day Wikibreak from tomorrow because I have major exams, and i am using the break enforcer code (won't ask an Admin to block me, because i want to try and keep a clean block log), so i won't be able to log on, but can you please, if needed take action? I really don't want offensive messages like this being posted on my talk page while I'm away. I did say to the user that if he does it one more time, then I would take report the user, however since I'm going on Wikibreak tomorrow i came to you instead. You can see the diff here [[6]] Thanks. Class455fan1 (talk) 18:09, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi Class455fan1. I wish you success with your exams will keep an eye on your page. Before your exams remember to exercise and not eat bread. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 19:23, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
I won't :) . I have given the IP involved a final warning for personal attacks, so that if they leave an offensive message on my page while away, you may take action (I won't say this on the warning though) Class455fan1 (talk) 19:24, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
I have removed the final warning. I hope you don't mind. You warned a day ago and the editor should have a chance to change. Remember your goal. It is to make the problem go away. A final warning a day after a lighter warning without him posting at any talk page in between is not necessary and could antagonize him. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 19:48, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
Ok, however he still attacked me after i left the Caution on his page by reverting my edit on my talk page, and adding more to that, so thats why i left the final warning to basically say "Look, you need to stop saying rude things on my talk page, and be civil otherwise you may be blocked". I can see your point though. Class455fan1 (talk) 19:55, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
You're right. I'm sorry. I just got up and am a bit foggy. I thought it was all yesterday. Okay, well, I still think it best if you just let it go. I'll keep an eye on his contribs. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:09, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi Class455fan1. I see the IP came back and Bishonen made an appropriate block. Let's hope the IP starts to understand. Now I think I should have left your warning. :) Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:37, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
My pleasure, Class455fan1. I hope you'll be fine with the wikibreak enforcer, but if you should want a block for a few days, you can ask me, and your block log will state explicitly that it was self-requested (or even "self-requested for exams", if you like). So it wouldn't be a stain on your record. See this page. Bishonen | talk 20:49, 5 January 2016 (UTC).
Thank you both, will start a discussion on Bishonen's talk page about a self block. Class455fan1 (talk) 21:42, 5 January 2016 (UTC)


Leon Mann issue

Hello Anna,

I am writing regarding Leon Mann and am really struggling to understand the problem. Apologies if I have written on thewrong thread but I am relatively new so hopefully you can forgive that.

I heard what you said about sources, but struggle to think what more you expect, particularly regarding these two, where he did extensive documentaries interviewing Jermaine Defoe and Andy Cole, are these press releases not clear enough? [1] [2]

There are then all of these by-lines from work for the BBC, extensive work including interviews with big names from a range of sports: [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/14405207 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/14166364 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/athletics/8801965.stm

That is the BBC and ITV, two of the world's best-known broadcasters, so that seems very strong proof to me, then there is writing for the Guardian and work for the PFA that is clearly linked to him: [22] [23] [24]

If you look at the wikipedia pages of these journalists they have far less proof/links that this yet still have pages up and running: [25] [26], some explanation, clarification so we can look forward and work together on this would be great.

Best wishes,

Michael

Mlmc12345 (talk) 22:16, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Jump up ^ http://www.itv.com/presscentre/ep3week45/jermain-defoe-sports-life-stories Jump up ^ http://www.itv.com/presscentre/ep4week11/sports-life-stories Jump up ^ http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/18070768 Jump up ^ http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/athletics/8677470.stm Jump up ^ http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/18860401 Jump up ^ http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympic_games/world_olympic_dreams/8846514.stm Jump up ^ http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/33823373 Jump up ^ http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/31816220 Jump up ^ http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27074317 Jump up ^ http://www.voice-online.co.uk/article/2014-black-list-revealed Jump up ^ http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/13362716 Jump up ^ http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/17391056 Jump up ^ http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/14771398 Jump up ^ http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympic_games/world_olympic_dreams/9480465.stm Jump up ^ http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympic_games/world_olympic_dreams/9567982.stm Jump up ^ http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/14771398 Jump up ^ http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/14771400 Jump up ^ http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/13455778 Jump up ^ http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/athletics/8680353.stm Jump up ^ http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympic_games/world_olympic_dreams/9483897.stm Jump up ^ http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/14510618 Jump up ^ http://www.theguardian.com/profile/leon-mann Jump up ^ https://www.thepfa.com/thepfa/pfatv Jump up ^ http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2009/aug/10/black-list-voice-football Jump up ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleanor_Oldroyd Jump up ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_Clarke

Hi Michael. Please keep the discussion in one place. This is a copy paste of the article's talk page.
Please read WP:42. This is about media discussing him, not about what he's done or who he is. That is the bottom line for articles here. Also, please see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. And also, I am guessing that you are either him or his agent or someone connected to him. So, please read Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. Thanks. Anna F remote (talk) 00:53, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

I sort of understand your point but if you want proof of somebody working in an industry surely nearly 50 BBC by-lines is enough proof? I'm not connected to him, I just want to expand wikipedia and see its levels of accuracy improved. I am looking to get it more updated for journalism as a whole. If you want media discussing a journalist isn't it obvious that this happens VERY rarely, because journalists are always interviewing other people? On that logic it would be almost impossible to have any journalist on wiki. Journalists are not often the subject of interviews themselves, and on the following pages Jump up ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleanor_Oldroyd Jump up ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_Clarke there is nothing of that sort yet the page is active, so I really struggle to see the difference? I struggle to see how someone who has completed two extensive ITV documentaries and dozens of BBC interviews with huge sports stars wouldn't be an important addition to our site. I look forward to your clarification and thank you or your extended dialogue.

Hi Michael. Please do not take this the wrong way, but it is not clarification that is required from me. It is repetition. Please re-read the above links titled 42 and OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Anna F remote (talk) 01:43, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Dictator blocking

Upon seeing the WP:AN request related to a user block and seeing the username, I had to smile; my first thought was "this could technically qualify for {{Uw-ublock-famous}}" but figured the block was actually for vandalism or something of the like, so [7] really made me laugh. The threat to give you a nuclear winter resulted in removal of this user's talk page access, in case you didn't see that already. Nyttend (talk) 11:32, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi Nyttend. I blocked for ublock-famous before knowing the history of the editor. The joke is on me, probably. I am trying to get him unblocked and into being a productive editor. Anyhow to be fair, if Oppenheimer threatened to ignite the atmosphere over a block, revoking talk access would probably be appropriate. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:44, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Anna Frodesiak. You have new messages at MB298's talk page.
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Supreme Leader of Wikipedia

So how long is SLW going to be permitted to do play-by-play commentary on their Talk page about the activities of other editors, and to instruct admins to take actions concerning them like a jailhouse executive? Is it just me, or does SLW seem to have missed the point of being blocked? General Ization Talk 02:46, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Your concern in appreciated, General Ization. I've commented at his talk. Cheers. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:19, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, I noted your having encouraged him to step away. Hope he takes your advice. General Ization Talk 04:21, 8 January 2016 (UTC)


A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Good Humor
I honestly think you have the best sense of humor on Wikipedia. Here's a barnstar for your hilarious comments about counterfeit shoes. Viriditas (talk) 03:48, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
Thank you, my friend. I'll be here all week ways. Try the veal! Wait, that's not veal!!!! :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:53, 10 January 2016 (UTC)


Free pictures

Hi Anna, I thought of your picture project when I posted Humanities#Creative_commons_license_of_government_home_pages: It's a great way to get pictures of polititians. — Sebastian 06:27, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, Sebastian. I'm sorry I took so long to reply. My brain didn't see it somehow. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:32, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
No problem! It was a good thing that you invoked my name, though, since I just took your page off my watchlist. — Sebastian 17:55, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
Sebastian, are you sure that link you have given me above is correct? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:55, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) I think it was just missing a prefix of “WP:RD/”, but by now it’s been archived.—Odysseus1479 22:27, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
Ah, I see. Very clever, my friend. :) Thank you. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:31, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
Yup, thanks, Odysseus! — Sebastian 17:07, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
And thank you, Sebastian, for the link. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:52, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

I have replied you

Thanks for your visiting. Starsareintherose (talk) 01:04, 17 January 2016 (UTC)


Why Do You Block?

Hi, may I know, what's the reason you blocked Miss Malaysia Organization? They are the OFFICIAL organization for Miss Malaysia and it's their responsibility to update the information in Miss Malaysia page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Azharsofii (talkcontribs)

(talk page stalker) To avoid a possible Conflict of Interest on the Miss Malaysia page and because the username was promotional. You are not supposed to have a username which contains an organisation in them. Class455fan1 (talk) 09:57, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Talkback

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Kerala Houseboats : Houseboats in Alleppey under the Reference Category

Dear Anna Frodesiak,

        I have recently added a point under the Reference Section in the Wikipedia page "Kerala Backwaters". The point that I have mentioned was Kerala Houseboats : Houseboats in Alleppey (with a hyperlink to Kerala Houseboats).
    No sooner after saving the message, I received a message stating that it has been removed as it contains promotional or advertising links.
   Under the wiki page of "Kerala Backwaters" then in that case i believe that there are other promotional and advertising links added by other users for eg. under the Reference section Point No 4, Point No 10 and Point No 12 should be considered as content which is used for advertising purpose.
 I have just added the point about the biggest houseboat which is located in Alleppey which I believe would be very much fruitful and useful for the users as its truly the biggest houseboat located in Alleppey, Kerala and if you could review our website you could find that we are not misleading the consumers in any manner when it comes to Houseboats in Alleppey.
 Awaiting for a confirmation from your end at the earliest.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sparkzkreative (talkcontribs) 15:05, 18 January 2016 (UTC) 
Hi Sparkzkreative. Yes, if that is true, it could be in the article. Please find reliable sources to support that fact and add it. Please do not add the actual website for the company though. That is not a good source and makes it appear that you work for the company and are trying to promote it by adding the fact about your company to the article using the webiste as a sources so that others can get in contact with your company and hire them. If you have further question, please ask. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 15:13, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
Oh, and when you refer to yourself as "we" and say "our website", I gather you work for the company. How many people operate this Wikipedia account "Sparkzkreative"? Thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 15:14, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
I don't remember whether you are an OTRS agent or not (I'm not at home, where I could look it up).
I'm looking at a recent ticket which is a copy of the note in this post. With your permission, I will respond:
Thank-you for contacting us. The best way to communicate with Anna is on her talk page, which I see you have already done, so I will close this request. --S Philbrick(Talk) 16:19, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi Sphilbrick. Yes, you have my permission, of course. And no, I am not an OTRS agent. Is this to do with Kerala Houseboats, or should this go in a new section? Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:46, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
Yes, it has to do with Kerala Houseboats. The email is essentially a copy of the post here.--S Philbrick(Talk) 00:49, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi Sphilbrick. Okay. I am still not clear on the purpose of that OTRS. From what I understand, it is a system whereby the user emails permission to use text or images. I am not clear on why the text in this post would be in an OTRS. I guess it could be the owner of the houseboat company emailing to prove he is the owner. Anyhow, no worries. The user can come here and explain. Best wishes and sorry for the fuss. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:55, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
One aspect of OTRS is permission, and that is one area I used to work in but there are literally dozens of other queues. One of the largest is info-en, which is where people write to Wikipedia because they don't know about help desks and ask many questions, such as “why is the article about me being deleted” or “how do I write an article about myself?” Many agents handle general questions such as that. On occasion, someone will post a question there and ask on-wiki. That's what happened in this case. Not only was it the same question, it opened with “Dear Anna Frodesiak” which was why I contacted you.
By the way, if you ever find yourself interested in helping in other ways, there is a serious need for OTRS volunteers, and you would be a good one. To partially repeat myself, some of the question are very much like one would see at the Tea House, other queues are permissions only, and then there are queues that I don't handle, such as legal and others.--S Philbrick(Talk) 02:59, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi Sphilbrick. Very interesting indeed. I had no idea there were so many queues. I will consider joining the team, but am not sure about it. Thank you for taking the time to explain. All the best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:02, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
To explain a little further, if a reader has a query, and decides to look for help, they may find Help:Contents, which may lead them to Wikipedia:Contact_us_-_Readers which has an email contact for general questions. That's where I found the question. --S Philbrick(Talk) 03:05, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
I see. Holy moly, Sphilbrick. You must get loads of emails. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:14, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Kerala Houseboats : Houseboats in Alleppey under the Reference Category

Dear Anna,

    The user id sparkzkreative is operated by only one person and thats me. Myself Vijesh Pillai. I have no issues about removing my first 2 articles from the Wikipedia section as it contains advertising or promotional material.
    But the third edit which I had made, for Kerala Houseboats : Houseboats in Alleppey with a link given to (http://www.skahouseboats.com), I do not find anything much promotional as people searching for Kerala Backwaters would be definitely interested into know about the Houseboats of Kerala, and I had just added a point in the Reference category. If you could review our website in comparison to the other websites that I had mentioned in my previous talk you could find that by no way we are misleading or deceiving the customers of Wikipedia in any manner.


Regards, Vijesh — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sparkzkreative (talkcontribs) 15:34, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

As for your company having a mention there, please read what I wrote above about reliable sources. You have an obvious conflict of interest and are here to get your website into that article. I do not think your reason for doing this is mainly to help readers of the article learn. It think it is mainly to improve your business and promote your company. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 15:41, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

About Leigh Bevan Roberts

Hi Anna, I am attempting to create a Wiki page for my boss, Leigh Bevan Roberts. It is necessary for our current work, as he is a fully credentialed film composer in the Los Angeles area, and many of his projects link to wiki. We are not self-promoting, and would really appreciate if we could continue to create the Wiki page for Leigh Bevan Roberts without being flagged. I can provide any source of reference that you may need to verify said person, their work, and ongoing credentials.

Thank you

Allison PiccioniLeigh Bevan Roberts (talk) 22:46, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello Allison (account User:Leigh Bevan Roberts). First, your username implies that you are Leigh Bevan Roberts. Please abandon that account and create a new account or visit Wikipedia:Changing username/Simple.
About creating an article for Leigh Bevan Roberts, please read WP:42. That is the bottom line. If you can paste some sources here at my talk page or at your talk page, I can let you know if an article is possible.
Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:51, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

You dope!

You dope, I sent a POTSTICKER!
Thank you for helping with my article, Anna! Potguru (talk) 01:39, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Thank you. :) And what a coincidence. That is the seventh time today I've been called a dope. What are the odds! :) Anyhow, you are most welcome. Good creation. There are better dispensary images out there. Feel free to swap in a better one. Cheers, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:41, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

I hate to be the bad guy, but this article is nowhere ready for mainspace . I have moved it to Draft:Cannabis dispensary. Most of the article is unsourced original research or a poorly composed combination of different topics. Viriditas (talk) 20:08, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

political page

    Hii
I am Shashank Mishra leader of youth congress to Sonbhadra Uttae Pradesh India..  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shashank mishr (talkcontribs) 05:09, 20 January 2016 (UTC) 
Hello Shashank mishr, and welcome to Wikipedia. How can I help? Is this about your userpage? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:46, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Request for help

Hey Anna Frodesiak! Trust you are doing good.

We the team of Lonvely Professional University would like to manipulate few categories and add few. As we have adopted few new polices added new courses and many other we want them to be visible to wiki reader. It would be a great help if you can help us in editing this page (Lovely Professional University)or helping us in creating it from a scratch.We want to remove thy award section and also the raking part we tried doing it at times but it get reverted again and again. Please Guide us with a solution. Thanking you in anticipation. Waiting for you to reply.

Sincerely LPU Team — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soinsidigital (talkcontribs) 05:44, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello Soinsidigital and welcome to Wikipedia. First things first: You say "we", so I am guessing this is a group account representing the university. How many people use this Soinsidigital account? You also mentioned being reverted again and again. Could you please list the accounts you've registered and/or have operated? Here is a history of editors. Which accounts are yours? Then we can move forward with matters about the article. Many thanks and look forward to helping you out. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:23, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi Anna, I am the representative of Lovely Professional University and only I have the access of this account. I make changes on the Wikipedia page by logging through Soinsi Digital. I don't have any idea on remaining accounts and how can they edit our page. Is their any possibility to stop other accounts to edit our page. As I had mentioned that I wanted to remove/delete the Violence on Campus and Awards and Rankings headings from the page. I did this twice of thrice but it gets uploaded again.
Please guide me on this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soinsidigital (talkcontribs) 09:53, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
Soinsidigital, before we go any futher, are any of these accounts you? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:08, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi Anna, while going through other accounts I found that there is a bot operated by Anomie which is editing the text, please guide us how to block this bot from editing the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soinsidigital (talkcontribs) 11:04, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
Soinsidigital, yes, those bots can sometimes be a problem, but bots usually just undo unconstructive edits. So, about my question, are any of these accounts you? Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:21, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
Soinsidigital, I see you edited the article Lovely Professional University. Please do not edit it any more until the issues we are discussing above are settled. Please respond to my last questions. Thank you. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:16, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi Anna, none of the mentioned accounts are mine. Please suggest the way forward. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soinsidigital (talkcontribs) 06:55, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi Anna, please advise if I can make a new/fresh Wikipedia page for my University (Lovely Professional University) and delete the existing page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soinsidigital (talkcontribs) 07:05, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi Soinsidigital.
First, no, you can not make a new/fresh article for Lovely Professional University. The existing article will never be deleted. And it is not your page. See WP:OWN.
Okay, next issue: Are you being paid to edit the article? Is this part of your employment? Your job?
Please add your replies here and not in a new section. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:52, 17 January 2016 (UTC)


Lovely Professional University

Hi Anna, please let me know if you have any update on my queries. Can I delete the accounts which do not belong to me and is there possibility that I can create a fresh page for the University and delete the existing one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soinsidigital (talkcontribs) 04:40, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

First, accounts cannot actually be deleted (servers-wise) so I suggest you simply occupy yourself with someone else. Second, consider improving the current article instead as this will be better instead of actually deleting. To learn how Wikipedia works, see WP:Welcome and WP:Your first article. Cheers, SwisterTwister talk 05:59, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
Actually, please do not improve the current article. At least not yet.
Soinsidigital, I have answered your question above. You did not answer mine. See above where it says "...Are you being paid to edit the article?" and please answer that question right below that question. Please do not keep making new sections. Again, you cannot delete the article. Also, you cannot delete accounts. Thank you. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:53, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Lovely Professional University

Hi Anna, I am not being paid to edit the page, this is my page and wanted to remove all the unwanted and false information from my page. I am trying to edit my page and wanted to add more information to it, but unfortunately every time I try to edit the false information it get back to the same information which was posted earlier. Its being quite some time since I am trying to come up with a solution but not getting through. Can you suggest solutions to fix this account. As it is admission time in my college and I don't want to showcase wrong information to the admission seekers.

This is on very high priority for me.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soinsidigital (talkcontribs) 13:42, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Soinsidigital: What is your page? And when you say "fix this account", what do you mean? What account? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:46, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
Also, please tell me about the Lovely Professional University team you are part of. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:50, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
Just to let you know, Wikipedia sometimes defines "your page" as User:Soinsidigital. Wikipedia defines "Lovely Professional University" as an article, which does not belong to any one person -- not you, not me. I hope that helps. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:54, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Lovely Professional University

Hi Anna, I am the part of Marketing team at Lovely Professional University. As a policy of Wikipedia the username and the Page name should be different otherwise it goes to the speedy deletion. I have kept Soinsidigital as a UserName while Lovely Professional University as the name of the page. Now pls tell me steps to resolve the problem. Why I am not able to edit the content, or how can I edit the content? Is there any contact number where I can call you and explain you the issue. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soinsidigital (talkcontribs) 04:55, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Okay Soinsidigital, you are saying two things that conflict:
  • "...I am not being paid to edit the page..."
  • "...I am the part of Marketing team at Lovely Professional University..."
Be honest. You are paid to be part of that team. Part of your job is to edit the page. Is that right?
Now, what is the relationship between Soinsidigital and Lovely Professional University? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:07, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Lovely Professional University

Hi Anna, as a marketing guy it is my responsibility to make sure that all the information on the page is authentic and is up to the date, it is part of my job. Whereas Soinsidigital is just the username as the username and the page name should be different. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soinsidigital (talkcontribs) 05:25, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Soinsidigital: Okay, you are getting paid to edit the article. You are what is called a "paid editor". You must disclose that. See your talk page for information about that.
Now, what is the relationship between Soinsidigital and the university. And who do you work for? Please be clear. My patience is near its end. You are very close to being indefinitely blocked from editing. The university article can manage just fine without you. Remember, be clear and honest. Don't make me ask three times. Thank you. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:32, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Soinsidigital: Are you Vineet.Zen? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:34, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
What is Vineet.zen?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soinsidigital (talkcontribs) 06:03, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Follow-up for the record: This sock and his farm blocked. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:05, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello

Hope you're well. I am super busy in Canada. And I am basically retired from IRC and Wikipedia. (derp been using my account a lot lately so I've heard).Danger^Mouse (talk) 16:43, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Danger^Mouse, nice to hear from you. Glad you are doing well in Canada. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:51, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

User:LondonBuses75

Hi Anna, I need your help. This user created from a redirect London Buses route 5, however it was reverted back for not being notable. I then explained to the user why it has been reverted, trying to not discourage him from editing, but it appears he has now been discouraged. I can see why, because he spent a lot of his time editing that article and it all got wiped out by my revert, but you have to comply with the rules here. Can you please give him some advice and try to make him not discouraged any more as you are more experienced then me.. Surely he can work on articles like List of bus routes in London (as long s his work is backed up with sources) Thanks! Class455fan1 (talk) 21:59, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

I posted at his talk. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:51, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Aaron Christopher American actor

Looks like it is also a sockpuppet, see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Aaron j christopher 101. Wgolf (talk) 01:30, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

All deleted and blocked. Thanks. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:36, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Diplomacy
Good god, you are unbelievably levelheaded. larryv (talk) 09:49, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
Thank you. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:07, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

About 13preneur

Hi Anna. I trust that you are well.

I have clearly not understood the structure that wikipedia uses. I've just realised that you have "User: xyz" and "Article", the former being strictly a userspace for the logged-in user and the latter being a searchable heading in wikipedia. Now, what I was intending to do with the piece that you deleted, was to create an Article and I have clearly violated "User Page" terms.

Please assist with the following, what do I need to do to create an "Article" as a "User"? Do I need to re-create my "User Page"?

Regards Gtp13 (talk) 12:20, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi Gtp13, and welcome. As a user, you may create an article, but that article subject must be notable. See WP:42. 13preneur does not seem to be notable. That is why I deleted the content at your userpage. If you wish to make an article about 13preneur (which I am guessing you are associated with and wish to promote), you must first find lots and lots of media references. Can you find media references? If you can, I will help you make the article. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:11, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Nomination of Cannabis dispensary for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Cannabis dispensary is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cannabis dispensary until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 17:04, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Our new friend

No more activity from him so far. Invertzoo (talk) 23:23, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for reminding me, Susan. I will MfD the project page. Any thoughts on the images? Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:41, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
Oh gee I don't know. He may have made them himself. Invertzoo (talk) 01:55, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi Invertzoo. I think we should accept the images as his own. Are you okay with that? :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:58, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
I suppose we could accept them at face value for the time being. I am assuming he declared them to be his own work when he uploaded them. But I suppose the shell figures may turn out at some point to be copied from somewhere. He never gave us a proper answer to that question. However it is OK with me if they are accepted. Invertzoo (talk) 13:32, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi Susan. At least one species is Asian. If others are not, that could be grounds for deletion. The chances of him having been outside China and taken the photos there is .00001%. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:00, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Potguru

I've reverted this edit and warned the user, as it appears to be the resumption of edit-warring immediately following a block for the same, so I thought I'd give you a heads up now in case you have any tricks up your sleeve to help this editor not end up in a longer block. OhNoitsJamie Talk 17:24, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for the heads up, Jamie. I've posted at his talk. I sure hope that IP wasn't him. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:57, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi Anna, don't worry about the IP, that's just an LTA pest who's attempted to bother me before. Nothing that a rangeblock can't fix if necessary. I think Potguru's intentions are fine, but he doesn't seem to get how our consensus policies work. OhNoitsJamie Talk 23:00, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
I agree, Jamie. And I am very happy to hear the IP is not him. Thank you kindly, my friend. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:03, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Tam Wrigley

Good morning Anna,

I just wanted some clarity on how I can create a Tam Wrigley page. I see other celebrities and people with their own pages and would like to have one created for myself.

Can you please give me guidance and advice on how to do this

Thanks

Tam Wrigley 21:10, 22 January 2016‎ Tam Wrigley

Hi Tam Wrigley. Guidance, okay. Please read WP:42 and then post here with thoughts about that. That is our first step. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:57, 22 January 2016 (UTC)


From Eagleowl

Sounds promising, indeed  :)) 22 January 2016 Eagleowl21

Hello and welcome Eagleowl21. What sounds promising? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:57, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

one more

It would be great to join your team. 21:12, 22 January 2016 Eagleowl21

What team? Do you mean being a Wikipedian? Then yes, you are very welcome! :) Anna Frodesiak (talk)

You dope!

You dope, I sent a SECOND POTSTICKER! (You must be a rare bird).
You are the best of the best. Potguru (talk) 00:53, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
Thank you again, my friend. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:56, 23 January 2016 (UTC)


grumble grumble grumble

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Theroadislong#You_dope.21

Viditas last edit is an attmempt to control the conversation to his point of view because he believes he "winning" the current (arguably not fully formed) request for comment. I consider his last edits (moments before this post) to be edit war. He has yet to contribute anything of merit except his repeated unsubstantiated claim that the article should be named one way or another. (I'd actually like to have an honest debate on the subject but his aggressive warring edits are making that impossible). --Potguru (talk) 18:13, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi Potguru. I just got up. Give me a few minutes to see what's happened in the night and collect my thoughts. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:02, 24 January 2016 (UTC)


I'll give you the quick overview... viriditas and now jamie seem to want to continue to debate the merits of using the word cannabis vs using the word marijuana. They refuse to supply any reference material or engage in any real discussion with the most recent actions including veriditas archiving nearly the entire talk page after he suppressed my well considered and well thought out plan to come to a concensus here.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cannabis_dispensaries_in_the_United_States/Archive_1#Proposed_request_for_comments_section_.28Proposed_RFQ_Not_Yet_Open.29.

It seems Viriditas can suppress my comments and continue to imply things about my ability to think or comprehend (arguably attacking me with name calling) and all I can do is ... nothing... he just keeps harassing me. I wish he'd put up something of value but clearly he is young and impatient. --Potguru (talk) 02:09, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

I've also started a discussion here in an attempt to build this debate one leg at a time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Marijuana_(word)#Before_editing_the_page.2C_I.27d_like_to_present_an_idea My basic contention is that marijuana is only a portion of a specific strain of cannabis. If we can establish that is true then we can establish that, perhaps, a marijuana dispensary is a real thing even though people might be offended by the name. --Potguru (talk)

Very quickly, Potguru, before I turn my notes into sentences, where will you be in a month? Here editing no matter what? Blocked and gone? I want to know if you can handle it here. I've invested time and got you unblocked early. I need to know if you can stick it out. (Things will only get easier.) You are having a Baptism by fire, in case you didn't know. What you are experiencing is on the extreme end of how rough things can get here. You are doing fantastically and are up against some very tough customers. Viriditas is a great writer and also many have found him very tough to work with. There are only a handful of such editors here. So, your future? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:35, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Anna, I'm not going anywhere... I promise. --Potguru (talk) 02:37, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Good to hear you won't leave (or get blocked for warring or incivility) ever ever ever. :) Response coming in a few... Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:40, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Viriditas#I_put_out_my_hand_in_friendship --Potguru (talk) 02:43, 24 January 2016 (UTC)


my contention... This is the wrong question Chris said: I am proposing an RfC regarding the use of "Marijuana dispensary" vs "Cannabis dispensary".

Instead the RfC should read:

  • 1) here is the issue we have consensus needs to be resolved (i.e. name of page)
  • 2) here are the facts presented by the community to support various arguments (i.e. links to various wikipedia pages)
  • 3) now what do you think ... (i.e. vote here)

Anything else is just nonsense.

(erase me) --Potguru (talk) 03:12, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

I don't think that would have changed the outcome. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:17, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Response

Okay, here goes: Sixteen page watchers and half a dozen participants and ultimately the community prefers Cannabis dispensaries. Viriditas archived at 01:14, 24 January 2016 ‎after there was rough consensus at 21:15, 23 January 2016. Can you live with it? I figure if you can see one of two movies, and they're close to equally good, it can't be a big mistake no matter which you choose. There's a good case for both page names. It is not the end of the world how that turned out.

Moving on...

Also the archiving, removing that clutter helps others join in. People otherwise think, what a mess, and stay out of it. And, Wikipedia is incredibly transparent and editors are smart and nosy. They found the facts.

Please understand that I am an editor in all of this, not an admin.

Note that Viriditas hasn't edited the article at all since the move.

I must not be in the middle of you two. I am old friends with V and at the same time have disagreed with his draftifying. I am neutral but it is very uncomfortable to be in the middle.

Please refer to the edits not the editor.

I am hugely, hugely impressed with the difference between when you started and how you are now.

Get more irons in the fire. What's next for you here? A new article, section, what? Maybe part of the reasons this is under your skin is that it is your baby. Set it loose. Have more kids.

So, where are we? The term "Cannabis" has be chosen. If you like, wait several months and post there again to see if that is still what the community wants. So, now this is about the "United States" thing. Hmmmm. See how the AfC goes. I approach things like "Maybe I'm right. Maybe I'm wrong. Let's see what the community thinks." Look for constructive solutions. Ask questions. Suggest. State your case and wait. Maybe even stay out of it. But don't pitch.

One good question I've been wondering about, and I invite our friend Viriditas to weigh-in, is if this article is about the US, and the Dutch coffeeshop one is about dispensaries there, then where is the international coverage supposed to go? It can't fit into US because that would be out of scope, right? The US article AfC is about that particular article in its current state. I'm kind of lost about how it should all go. Actually, maybe the wikiproject is the place to talk about that. Maybe a parent article is the way to go, with main, child articles about the US and Holland. Not sure. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:15, 24 January 2016 (UTC)


I appreciate that, today, for this moment, a bunch of people decided (wrongly because of lack of facts) that they prefer the name cannabis to marijuana. I didn't need a poll to know that. But there is a bigger issue at hand. The issue is... what is marijuana? what is cannabis? and what is hemp?
If you look at the tobacco article it's an excellent model. They do not call tobacco "Nicotiana" because it is not. Just like Tobacco is a product prepared from the flowers of the tobacco plant Marijuana is a product prepared from the flowers of the marijuana plant. Moreover, and this is new, it is a component of the plant which must contain at least 0.03% THC (lots of references).
Then I had a bit of an epiphany. Here it is:
It's fine... the poll was meaningless. Once I establish the context and references I will make my case.
For now I've started a new article. Not sure of the "noteworthiness". It is the oldest known word for the part of the plant I call marijuana. TA MA. Did I get that right, that's what you call it, right? --Potguru (talk) 06:59, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Did you search wikiproject cannibis for old debates on the naming thing?
I think it's Da ma. That is how it is referred to here and that is what those characters say. Also, not sure if that could be a standalone. Can the article be more than a definition? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:10, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
I don't know. First came across it here. https://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/golden_guide/g31-40.shtml Yep, pronounced DA the word is MA. ok.. my turn to sleep. Keep the fires burning. g'nite. ;-) --Potguru (talk) 07:31, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Of course, whatever the name is, the other name redirects to it. Visitors find it. They read about it. The content is what matters most to them, not the name. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:36, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

You dope!

You dope, I sent a POTSTICKER!
Three potstickers? Holy Cow? Rare ... nah ... UNIQUE! Potguru (talk) 02:38, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
A third! Thank you! :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:30, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
You are truly unique. --Potguru (talk) 07:32, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

List of bus routes in London requires protection

Hi Anna, In the past 24 hours, this page has been completely blanked by two IP's. One blanked it last night and got blocked. I then requested that the page be protected but someone declined it saying that "A block is enough" despite the fact that the IP is static, so its address can be changed by restarting its router, as i found out when i had to restart mine. I don't edit with my IP, however i did notice the change as i had logged out before and after i restarted my router. The vandal then probably did this, and restarted blanking the page with a new IP. The page needs protection urgently. Im not going to the RPP page otherwise they would decline it again, so thats why I'm writing to you. Can you please do something about this? Thanks! Class455fan1 (talk) 17:56, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Class455fan1, if he comes back as a different IP and does the same thing, we should consider protection at that time. It was actually left blank for twenty minutes at one point. That means about three of the 150 daily visitors per day went to that article and found nothing. Not good but not tragic. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:20, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi Anna, Since you protected the main page, the IP vandal is now targeting the talk page for the article, so I've reported another of his sock puppets to AIV. I think the talk page could do with protection for a bit. Thanks Class455fan1 (talk) 19:11, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi Class455fan1. I really don't want to protect an article's talk page unless absolutely necessary. Here's a plan: We don't protect. We wait until he comes again. If it is blanking, we revert and get him talking at his usertalk. If it is a post about not being able to post at the article, we engage him in dialogue there. Let's find out why he is blanking. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:54, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
Good move! Class455fan1 (talk) 08:23, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

Pot Malls

Aloha, Anna. I hope you are enjoying the lovely tropical Hainan climate. I would like to bring to your attention a few things I have observed. In 2015, there was some mention in the local Colorado press about a developer and consultant to the cannabis industry who wished to build cannabis storefronts in Trinidad, Colorado. He initially faced some opposition but eventually prevailed. On January 14th, his company published a press release, and from what I can tell, a marketing campaign of sorts followed giving him additional press coverage in Colorado and advertising his business opportunity to potential clients who would wish to setup a cannabis business in Trinidad. Three days later, a new account was created on Wikipedia, focusing on the creation of an article about a "marijuana dispensary". The editor also wrote about and linked to Pot Malls.

The same day the account was created, the new user created a news release on Wikinews about Pot Malls and uploaded a blueprint of the proposed Pot Mall to Commons, claiming that the copyright belonged to him as the owner. It is possible that this license is simply incorrect. Finally, the user edited other articles to add mention of the Pot Mall. I am wondering if there is a COI at work here. The company appears to be pushing heavily for the Pot Mall and is looking for potential clients. In the past, we have seen editors with a COI create coatrack articles to hide promotional material deep inside the article. There are several issues, such as the use of off-wiki IRC to canvass support, but that's not important at the moment. Could you first take a look at this link and determine the validity of the commons licensing and the use of Wikinews? If the user has an undeclared COI, they shouldn't be writing about cannabis. If, on the other hand, this so-called "campaign" is simply attributable to a coincidence, then please disregard my concerns. Thanks for your attention. Viriditas (talk) 05:31, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for your research on this. I agree there are concerns here. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:54, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
It could just be a noisy artifact of faulty pattern matching. Like lying on the grass watching patterns forming in the clouds. Viriditas (talk) 10:35, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
I just got in and will look further later. I clicked a few links for a preliminary check and this strikes me as odd. It is an image owned by Trinidad Holdings Company, LLC and uploaded as CC 4.0 by, yes, not Trinidad Holdings Company. Also, the Description section is pretty full of zip codes and websites. That's pretty typical of someone related to the company. I guess we could ask him what that's about. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:09, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
Like I said above, it could mean nothing other than the wrong license was used. Also, maybe he saw the news show that covered the press release as a story and just happened to pop over here. I'm just trying to poke holes in it. Viriditas (talk) 11:25, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
No, you're right to be suspicious. Generally, two types of people arrive at Wikipedia and put together such an article full of references and all: someone who edited as an IP or had/has another account, or someone who is connected with the organization.
My guess, and just a guess? He is related to the organization, came here to promote or at least draw attention to it or get coverage about it to help the cause, but didn't know that promoting in such a way is not allowed, particularly when undeclared. I guess that it is now apparent to him that undeclared WP:PAID editors are strictly not allowed and that WP:COI editing needs some reading before continuing and that he will own up and be just and moral and good and we can move forward with him as a welcome editor. But that is just a guess. It is also possible that he has a conflict of interest, will keep it secret, be horribly scummy as a person and hurt Wikipedia, its volunteers, and himself in terms of karma, end up detected and booted, ultimately having no influence over the article(s). It is also possible this is just a coincidence.
From my perspective the way forward is openness and assumption of good faith. I write about Hainan. It doesn't mean I want to promote it. Sure, maybe he is connected to this mall, but wants to see it covered at Wikipedia because he believes in it.
So, Potguru, please do not be offended. We get a ton of this stuff here and just want to get to the bottom of it. If you are paid in any way to get mention of this mall into articles, please say so. If you say you didn't know, I'll believe you. You can declare and continue to edit. If you have no connection and just think the mall is a good thing and wanted to get mention of it here and at other parts of the project, fine too. Just be upfront and all is well. If, though, you are one of the central mall business people, only care about money, and don't mind deceiving us to get the mall into Wikipedia, please reconsider for these reasons: It could mean a public relations disaster. You would get booted. The community would have extreme prejudice against mall-related links and content. The mall will likely have an article and become a high-attention article anyway, which means promotion of it at the article or related articles would be removed and the contributors found and booted. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:01, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

I'm getting huge great firewall blocks. It could be from searching and loading cannabis pages. I may have to stop. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:40, 26 January 2016 (UTC)


No, I'm not paid by anyone. That was a story on the local news and I thought it was cool... as far as I know it's unique. If the references are no good remove it. I don't care. My machine got hacked today and I've been inundated with emails saying "did you send me this?" ugh... Be back soon. --Potguru (talk) 03:01, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
ps, I noticed marijuana dispensaries redirects to the wrong article... I don't dare change the redirect.. but it should go to the article about dispensaries not about cannabis.
Hi Potguru. I'm so sorry to hear about your computer being hacked. I guess you mean your email password was figured out by someone. I get those from friends all the time. When I ask, they say their password was something connected to their life. Try this: two-digit number+misspelled word+two-digit number like (82disppensary82). Easy to remember and variations can be used for other accounts (like 83disppensary83 or 82outtlet82). I think those are really hard to hack because they are a mix of numbers and letter, contain no real word, and have nothing to do with your life.
Great to hear about your not being paid by anyone. If I may ask, are you related to the pot mall in any way? It's okay if you are. Knowing would be a good thing. Also, it could mean good access to images and info.
Also, that image upload you made with the 4.0 license, that is owned by the the THC company, right?
As for the redirect, I just don't know anymore. Should it redirect to a US-centric article. Also, Coffeeshop (Netherlands) exists, so why not there?
I don't know myself but I did and do contend they are different. Legal regulated dispensaries in Colorado are not like coffeehouses which are, basically, illegal.
All the best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:20, 26 January 2016 (UTC)


Hi Anna, That is not my image. It was supplied by the company in a press release and was marked for redistribution. My relationship to the article is that I first saw it on the local news and I thought it was cool. Then I started looking at wikipedia and discovered there was no article on marijuana dispensaries and so I thought I'd write one and "voila" here we be. (I have not touched that article in any way in many many many many days because people got all up in arms about all kinds of things).

So I was thinking about writing about this subject on a local basis... a Colorado centric article about the differences between marijuana and hemp using this as a basis:

https://www.colorado.gov/pacific/agplants/difference-between-hemp-and-marijuana

Is that a legitimate source for information? To me, it is gospel. peace. --03:36, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

@Potguru: I believe we already discussed this but you don't seem to have read the relevant material. The source you have supplied is only reliable in the specific legal context of the cannabis laws of Colorado. If you are thinking of using that specific source in any other context, please don't. Viriditas (talk) 06:22, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
redfaced. that's why I said "a Colorado centric article". Not trying to start trouble, honest. --Potguru (talk) 17:20, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi Potguru. That's good news about your having no connection to the mall or Trinidad Holdings Company, LLC. I've nominated File:Elevation.gif for speedy deletion. It must be a copyvio. No worries. You uploaded it in good faith. I won't comment on the cannabis vs marijuana thing. I do know it makes people want junk food. I wonder if junk food companies lobbied for legalization? Oh, and this thing about international dispensary content really needs to get resolved. Such content has no place to go other than in an "elsewhere" section in the USA article. Can't we get this resolved? You two may actually agree on the need for a dispensary article. I sure would like to see one with Norway and Jamaica and other places covered. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:12, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Joe Gliniewicz selfie.jpg

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Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. --B-bot (talk) 18:42, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

For the record: File back in use. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:16, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
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Inappropriate User information

I have noticed that User:Rowdy srezan has written inappropriate things on his user page, as wikipedian I told this to you, an admin, please see to it because it is breaking the community guide lines of Wikipedia!BOTFIGHTER (talk) 10:50, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi BOTFIGHTER. I must be missing something. What are the inappropriate things? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:54, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
sorry it is only word, near his/her user box! Where his personnel information is written. BOTFIGHTER (talk) 10:57, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
You have to be more specific, please. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:19, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
Oh, right. The girlfriend. Thanks Liz. I saw that and debated it. I considered the age of the account and that other users have their wives names, etc. I think you made the right call. I should have done that. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:49, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
Thank you very much!BOTFIGHTER (talk) 16:59, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

what do you think?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Synthetic_cannabinoid#Merger_proposal

did u send message of blank content?!? or u ask "why u do this?! :("

It wasn't me. It was User:Potguru. I will try to fix things up but am having connection trouble at the moment. Stalkers? Anyone? :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:33, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Okay, I think I got it all sorted out. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:50, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Hello, Anna! Just so you know, it does not look like Stoian Kaev listened to your advice. --IJBall (contribstalk) 16:43, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Also moving articles from userspace to the project namespace instead of the main.—Odysseus1479 18:54, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
Thank you. I've blocked him. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:04, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Spamublock template

Hi, Anna. Thanks for the message. I used the standard template but stopped him from editing his own talk page because he was still posting spam on it. However, I don't understand why Template:Uw-spamublock seems to have two different wordings or why I got the wrong one. Can you give me any guidance on that? Deb (talk) 19:07, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi Deb. Me, give you guidance? At Wikipedia, you are my senior by many years and much experience. :) I will try anyhow. If you change the block to "cannot access talk", you can go back to the talk page and change the parameter "notalk=" to "notalk=yes". That will change the brown to the pink. If you make the original block with "cannot access talk", then just set "notalk=yes".
I actually do not use that, but maybe should. If I go back and remove talk access, I add the following handmade notice to leave a paper trail of what I did:

== Talk page access revoked ==


Your ability to edit your talk page has been revoked. If you wish to be unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then submit a request at UTRS. Thank you, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:47, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

or


I have revoked your talk page access. If you wish to appeal this block, first read Wikipedia:Appealing a block, then visit the unblock requests system (UTRS). Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:47, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

When making the original block with talk access revoked, I should consider simply using spamu with "notalk=yes".
Oddly, when doing the same thing with the soablock template, the pink version does not say why the block was made in the first place.
Anyhow, the bottom line is, when talk access is in a revoked state, some sort of message is needed below, or in place of a template containing "... you may appeal this block by adding the text {{unblock|Your reason here}}below..."
I hope I got this right and it was helpful. Please let me know if there is a better way. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:47, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, Anna. That seems to have worked. Deb (talk) 10:09, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Happy to help. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:10, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Capacities

Dear Anna, I Will add the sources, they are from Chinese sites and cafe.daum.net/stade Farmnation (talk) 19:20, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Are these in Chinese or in English? Because if in Chinese, hardly anyone could read it apart from people who understand or speak Chinese. Class455fan1 (talk) 19:25, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
Farmnation, if the Chinese sources are good and no others are available, then they will be fine. Please see WP:RS to check the quality. Cheers. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:46, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Pictures

Two packages of gauze. One 10 cm by 4.1 m. The other 5 by 5 cm.
Three types of gauze
Image A

Here are a couple.

Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 12:24, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you very much, Doc James. So wait, there are no medical sponges, as in image A? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:01, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
Hum. Not that I am aware of. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 21:06, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
Ahhhh, I see. The entire non-medical world probably thinks medical sponges look like image A. Okay, thank you kindly. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:15, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Sourabh J sarkar - Non Spam

It is unfair to recommend speedy delete. Please see the link

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1160108/jsp/saltlake/story_62635.jsp#.VrBUlbJ97IU It provides an overview of the person and the work he is doing. It is objective and clear.

thanks

ram — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bmram1973 (talkcontribs) 08:59, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Have also edited to remove the adjectives like Path Breaking etc to make it neutral. Also i am attaching another link below from a leading online daily. http://www.exchange4media.com/advertising/why-brands-should-choose-education-over-entertainmentsourabh-j.-sarkar_55466.html which highlights his thinking and credibility — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bmram1973 (talkcontribs) 05:53, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Dear Anna, I was keen to understand where we stand. We have made further changes to make it neutral. Also i have attached a link below. We should be allowed to present our case http://www.exchange4media.com/advertising/why-brands-should-choose-education-over-entertainmentsourabh-j.-sarkar_55466.html

thanks

ram Bmram1973 (talk) 06:49, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi Bmram1973. You say "we". Who are "we"? Thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:16, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
Are these all you? Just trying to get it straightened out. Then I can answer questions about your article.
Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:30, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

I like you...

... you are not afraid to ask the big questions. The Quixotic Potato (talk) 16:46, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi The Quixotic Potato. A valid question indeed, albeit badly worded. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:53, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Boo!

Boo! 😀 North America1000 03:30, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

It's awesome!!! :) North America, your productivity is scary. Ooohhhhhhhhh! :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:28, 9 February 2016 (UTC)


Mobile app

Can we 'sign in' in Wikipedia official app? So that I can have my articles checked just from my mobile phone!BOTFIGHTER (talk) 10:15, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

I have no idea about phones. I do not own one. Stalkers? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:20, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
Ok! Thanks!BOTFIGHTER (talk) 10:22, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
You could ask on IRC for quick answer or ask at the reference desk. Do you know how to get there? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:28, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
Help desk or Wikipedia:Reference desk or IRC (channel is #wikipedia-en-help). Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:32, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
Yes! But Thanks for giving direct links!BOTFIGHTER (talk) 10:36, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
You don't own a phone?? Quite surprising considering the world we live in today. I thought China was a technologically advanced country. BOTFIGHTER you can sign in, but you can't view a watchlist from there! Very annoying indeed, so i have to keep using Safari when i look at my watchlist when at School from my iPhone. Class455fan1 (talk) 23:02, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
Mobiles can't show a watchlist??? Really??? I had no idea. That sounds odd. Are you sure?? As for my phone situation, others around me have phones. Good enough. I'm easily found. And I certainly wouldn't waste my time staring into one of those little rectangles for hours. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:21, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
Fair enough. No, on the mobile app, there's a login page, but when i go on the menu after logging in, and when i typed in Special:Watchlist, it said "Unable to display Watchlist". How annoying. Class455fan1 (talk) 07:49, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
Thanks Class455fan1! I was not knowing, it would really be very annoying!BOTFIGHTER (talk) 12:31, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

The Anna Cafe is just amazing

What a lovely mix of colours! Xender Lourdes (talk) 06:58, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you!! :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:53, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
I love it too! There was a question i wanted to ask you about it but i can't think of it at this moment in time! Class455fan1 (talk) 07:55, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
Thank you. :) The question you wanted to ask is "Is a bell really necessary on a bicycle?" No, wait. That's the answer to "Knock knock. Who's there? Isabel. Isabel who?" Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:43, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
Ha ha ha ha Xender Lourdes (talk) 01:45, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

Sock's old page

A tag has been placed on your user page, User:FallandSpringOlympics/Sandbox1, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be blatant advertising which only promotes or publicises a company, product, group or service, and which is a violation of our policies regarding acceptable use of user pages; user pages are intended for active editors of Wikipedia to communicate with one another as part of the process of creating encyclopedic content, and should not be mistaken for free webhosting resources. Please read the guidelines on spam, the guidelines on user pages, and, especially, our FAQ for Organizations.

If you can indicate why the page is not blatant advertising, contest the deletion by clicking on the button that looks like this: Click here to contest this speedy deletion which appears inside of the speedy deletion ({{db-...}}) tag (if no such tag exists, the page is no longer a speedy deletion candidate). Doing so will take you to your user talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also edit this page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would help make it encyclopedic. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 17:08, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi MrLinkinPark333. I'm not sure why you posted this here. I am aware that I tagged that page ages ago. Anyhow, I've deleted it as NOTWEBHOST. Cheers. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:41, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
@Anna Frodesiak: Hi. I used Twinkle to nominate the page. No idea why it notified you. Glad it all got sorted out. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:04, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
Hi MrLinkinPark333. I see now. I created that page and pasted content there from his userpage. No idea why I didn't move it. Anyhow, that's why I got the notification. All cleared up. Many thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:27, 15 February 2016 (UTC)


Invitation

Hello, Anna Frodesiak.

You are invited to join WikiProject Food and drink, a WikiProject and resource dedicated to improving Wikipedia's coverage of food, drink and cuisine topics.
Please check out the project, and if interested feel free to join by adding your name to the member list. North America1000 09:58, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

  • Thanks for joining the project. Finally! North America1000 08:11, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for inviting me. :) I'm sorry I took so long. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:42, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
Better late than never...thanks again! North America1000 09:15, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
Thank you. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:21, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

From Jan J George

hey, Thanks for your Feedback. I was just adding pictures to the pages which didnt have one before so that people can identify and visualise those places. I didnt know that those pictures should not be watermarked. Sorry for the inconvenience caused. I reinserted the image fearing that it got removed for some other reason. I will from now only upload non-watermarked photographs. Thanks a lot for writing the matter.

Regards Jan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jan J George (talkcontribs) 18:33, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Hello Jan J George! :) Thank you so very much! I have encountered such situations for years and years. You are the very first person ever to respond this way. I am so grateful. Would you even consider re-uploading non-watermarked versions of the images you've already uploaded? They are so nice. It would be a pity to see other images put into use instead of yours just because of a watermark. All the best. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:15, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

You've got mail!

Hello, Anna Frodesiak. Please check your email; you've got mail! The subject is Resolution Attempts.
Message added 02:58, 26 February 2016 (UTC). It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.

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Changing username

Can you tell me, am I doing it correctly? Yesterday I created an account here and I don't know, am I doing it correctly. Look here Please help. Hey.im.going.to.kill.you (talk) 09:45, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

It looks fine, Hey.im.going.to.kill.you. I am not sure what you meant by "...and new username taken...", but that is okay. Now you just have to wait until it is done before editing. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:59, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Why I am omitted at this article? Hey.im.going.to.kill.you (talk) 10:19, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

I don't know. Please be patient. They will get to it. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:24, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
Good point. That is an archive. Let me look into it. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:25, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Omg. You were right. I delete it and everything is good. I have new username! I was so stupid. Thank you for everything and sorry for problem. Free8D (talk) 10:39, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

I have no idea what just happened. You modified the archive record in a strange way and an admin approved the new username 30 minutes ago. But all's well that ends well. Happy editing. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:10, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for reading through it

I was trying not to make the submission sound like an advertisement. :-) I am the writer, and thought it would be nice to have an information page about the book. I would still love to have a page about the book so that anyone could add things to it. Is there a way I can change it?

Also, the images are owned by me, how can I provide proof of that?

Thank you for your help, Steve — Preceding unsigned comment added by Monkeymindtales (talkcontribs) 00:46, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi Monkeymindtales. I did not claim the content sounded like an advert. Someone else did that. I removed copy pasted content (See WP:COPYVIO).
To be honest, I think you are here writing about your book, not for the reasons you state above, but rather to promote your book. You are strongly discouraged from doing that. As for the images, I suggest that you allow them to be deleted at Commons. If you do not, anyone can have them for their own commercial purposes. If and when the draft becomes an article, you can upload low resolution versions the images as non-free to Wikipedia to be used exclusively in the article. This will protect them.
Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:59, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

A favour

Hi Anna, As you may or may not know, I have asked Bishonen to block me from Monday until June 17 so I can get ready for exams. Whilst I am blocked, could you do me a favour and watch my talk page and if anything comes up that is not from a bot, if you can, can you please reply on my behalf? Hope you are having a nice day! Class455fan1 (talk) 00:11, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Sure, Class455fan1. I'll do my best. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:03, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
Thanks Anna, If anything appears on my talk page, just answer it for me.If its about Sources I added about London Bus routes, it isn't self published. See Talk:London Buses route 7. I have tried to prove my point to two others that the sources aren't self published, my reasons are there. Anyway, thanks for your help and this is the last time you'll hear from me until June. See you in June! Thank you for everything. Class455fan1 (talk) 19:00, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
June!?!? Oh, right. June. Okay. I'll do my best, Class455fan1. I hope some of my talk stalkers will also watch. I'm a little busy off-wiki too and wouldn't want to miss anything important at your talk. Good luck with school. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:17, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

gonna be bold

Hi Anna,

It's been a long time since I've done anything bold around here. I've taken some time and further studied how to be a good editor. I think I'm ready to be bold, but I want your permission first. (I'm still in shock from the "war" I created two months ago).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Synthetic_cannabis#It.27s_been_a_month_-_gonna_merge_the_pages...

You cool with my merging?

--Potguru (talk) 13:27, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Heck yes! A month and not a peep from anyone? Darn tootin'! Since you've just posted a last call, I'd give it 48 hrs and then do it. Please read and follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Merging#How to merge. There are several annoying steps. Nice to see you back, Potguru. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 19:30, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
I even invited Veriditas before I make the change. Speaking of the same... I have a problem I don't dare take any bold actions on:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cannabis_dispensaries_in_the_United_States#external_references
--Potguru (talk) 04:12, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
Hi Potguru. Nice that you invited Viritidas. He hasn't edited in a couple of weeks, and that is odd for him.
Well, now that Moxy is engaged, no bold action should be taken. Be patient on that one. Others may join in. You can respond to Moxy. Keep discussing. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:08, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

New list

Help to expand List of restaurants in the Las Vegas Valley if you're interested. See the talk page there for more info. Cheers, North America1000 11:08, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

It looks great! I have no idea how I would expand that. That place is like another planet to me. Plus, they're forprofits, so not organizations I like to do volunteer work for. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:14, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
Well, there's List of food safety organisations, which would benefit from improvements... North America1000 10:19, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
Thank you. I'll definitely take a look. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:35, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Wikiproject Food and Drink Newsletter – March 2016

– Sent by Northamerica1000 using mass messaging on 17:26, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

making a list and making it right

Hi Anna, How'd I do? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:List_of_medical_marijuana_centers_in_Colorado --Potguru (talk) 17:34, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Holy cow, great work! I don't know how you figured that out, but you did. If you like, I can make the entries First Caps. I can also move that to the mainspace. Wow. There are so, so many. I am not sure everyone smoking it is such a good thing. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:34, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
I would put a year in the lead like "...as of 2016..." and go with this column order:
  • DBA (change heading to "Name")
  • Licensee
  • Image
  • Street Address
  • City
  • License Number
  • License Type
  • Website
  • Notes
I can run a script to do that for you if you like. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:40, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
giggle, script it away...
I've been playing with this http://marianogappa.github.io/mediawiki-table-utility/
what do you script with, I'm anxious to learn about wikibots?
btw the list changes monthly, I'd love to retrieve it and publish... can you help?
Oh, and this isn't all of them... this is only a small portion. I'll make a few more lists now... --Potguru (talk) 23:56, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
I actually just make little notepad macros. Updating is a good plan, and if we change the layout, then updating may not be so easy. See List of casinos in Canada to understand just how useless these tables are when not maintained. That casino article is now basically just a historical record. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:05, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

I will change the order in a few minutes, if I don't get distracted by drumpf... is the article ready to be an article? --17:53, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Let's give it a bit of time. We're both somewhat unavailable right now. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:00, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Three years ago ...
this is life
... you were recipient
no. 414 of Precious,
a prize of QAI!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:34, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you! :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:43, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

User:Oyster group of hotels

You may want to block talk page access as well ... clearly spamming.--Cahk (talk) 09:20, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, Cahk. Done. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:43, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

I made a monster

Check me out... an article I started hit the international media in 24 hours.

eh? Told you I wouldn't let you down :-) --Potguru (talk) 17:52, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi, Potguru. Wow, that is getting a huge amount of attention! You can follow the number of page visits using this. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:43, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
Yea, I'm a troublemaker like that :) --Potguru (talk) 23:49, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
Please, though, be mindful of our purpose and that of Wikipedia. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:54, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
I'm not trying to fight.. I'm being quite cordial. I am having fun and working to inform the world on an important topic. All is good. --Potguru (talk) 00:18, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
Oh, no, I didn't mean that. I haven't been watching your edits at all. I meant the creation and images. I wouldn't want people to think you were making these to zing Trump. Anyhow, it'll get sorted out. And that John Oliver show is great! I haven't missed a single episode. Best thing on TV, if you ask me. He's bloody brilliant! :) Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:50, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

ANI Notice

Hey Anna. Your conduct isn't being reviewed or anything like that, but I wanted to let you know your talk page is referenced in this discussion I've opened. I wanted to call attention to the fact that, in spite of my concerns, the editor clearly knows how to engage with others productively and has made good contributions. I, JethroBT drop me a line 22:04, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi I JethroBT. Thank you kindly. I've responded with posts. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:57, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
  • Hey Anna, I'm currently discussing unblocking Potguru with I JethroBT (on IRC), and I was wondering how available you're going to be over the next few days... since you seem to have a good rapport with the user in question. (I've notified the user about the ArbCom permitted sanctions allowed in the area of contention... hopefully we can use that to help the user not be site-banned if they lose their cool again.) Thoughts? Coffee // have a cup // beans // 22:04, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
Sorted. Thank you. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:59, 9 March 2016 (UTC)


When you place a block message, you must remember to block first. I know, it is early, before coffee. Cheers! -- Alexf(talk) 13:44, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Ah, sorry, Alexf. Thanks for catching that. I thought I saw the message saying the block happened. I must have forgotten the click and was watching another tab. My apologies. And actually, it's late, after a glass of wine, eight hours before coffee. Same effect, though. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:00, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

From Gene ZEF about Yolandi Visser

hello im new to wiki. my friend anri asked me to fix her wiki page, im trying to do that. I have a picture that I took myself of her will that work, I dont have it copywrited. But im willing to donate it to getting her wiki account fixed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gene ZEF (talkcontribs) 02:16, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Great news! I've replied at your talk already. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:36, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Gene ZEF working on yolandi visser's wiki page

Sorry to bother you, but is there like a tutorial on how to post things in the code line that will link to the other Die Antwoord related wiki pages? like lets say if i wanted to link the band's wiki page from the account im working on, how do i do that? Again sorry to bother you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gene ZEF (talkcontribs) 06:00, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

No bother at all, Gene ZEF. Please see Help:Link and Help:Cheatsheet. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:34, 12 March 2016 (UTC)


Thank you again Anna. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gene ZEF (talkcontribs) 04:01, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

You're welcome. I'm sorry things are turning out this way. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:52, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Hidden revision still visible

Hi, I noticed that the edit you've hidden on this page is still visible in this diff where you removed the comment from the page. nyuszika7h (talk) 11:37, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, my friend. Good catch. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:43, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Some assistance...?

Hello Anna, how are you? I remember a few years you came to my talk page and requested that I add edit summaries to my changes. Apparently I wasn't doing that enough back then. (I'm at over 90% now). Anyway, I've come across an editor who edits many of the 800+ pages I have on my watch list and they rarely add edit summaries. Xtools shows less than 50%, (I don't even know if that is right). I had added an edit summary template to this users talk page but to no avail, so after a few weeks I tried engaging them in discussion but they still won't budge. They seem to feel edit summaries in general aren't necessary and will only add them when they "feel it's pertinent". It's not as if they're new either... 10 years/12,000 edits. So perhaps you could use that considerable charm you're so capable of and have a chat with them? They can be found here; User talk:Neovu79#February 2016. Thank you in advance. Cheers - theWOLFchild 02:15, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

In 10 years of editing WP, I have never come across someone who has taken such a large interest in the edits that I have contributed to as much as theWOLFchild. Until quite recently I never had my edits reverted simply for not making notes. While I understand guidelines that WP has in place to protect pages from vandalism, accuracy, etc, and though out my time editing, I have had very few edits reverted and have stayed clear of making disruptive edits and controversy. I find it hard to believe that not leaving notes, can be disruptive, and is worthy of such attention by this user. I find it very simple to click on the "diff" link to see changes that are made to pages I'm watching, when notes have not been made and have never had any issues or qualms doing so. Neovu79 (talk) 02:56, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
Just to be clear, I am not accusing you of "disruptive editing". Just as I advised you on your talk page that I was not accusing you of "vandalism" when you made that claim. I simply asked that you leave a brief summary with all your edits, to make life easier for your fellow editors. Expecting everyone to "click of the "'diff'" for every single edit is unreasonable and precisely one of the reasons we have this feature. It makes going through your watchlist a very onerous task, especially if your internet happens to be slow that day. Edit summaries also aid editors and admins in finding particular edits when searching out diffs for reports to pages such as ANI, SPI, AIV, 3RR, etc. You can use shorthand and acronyms for the more routine types of edits, (most of them really) and it just isn't that mush to ask for. - theWOLFchild 03:07, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
Ten years and a ton of edits is huge. So first, thank you for that! Second, I think you are the bees knees (i.e. I think you are wonderful. ) Third, I posted at your talk. Fourth, Thewolfchild, could we leave it at that and disengage? That would probably be best. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:24, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
"Disengage" sounds confrontational and I wouldn't characterize this that way. However, I get a sense that Neovu will make an effort to add more summaries, I have expressed my appreciation for that and hopefully we can now let this lie. Thanks. - theWOLFchild 03:43, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
"Disengage" sounds confrontational? :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:20, 16 March 2016 (UTC)


Another Shiksha linker

Hello. Guess what I found? User:RobinKumar4971 has the same pattern as User:Smith zara of adding links to shiksha.com: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/RobinKumar4971 So far it looks like it's just these two. Thought you might want to know. Thanks, Grayfell (talk) 05:39, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

Good catch, Grayfell. You show the signs of a great detective. In fact, your username is very detectivesque and would make a great name for a book series to rival Holmes. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:04, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

Please unblock Profile101

Hi, I'm not creating anymore accounts which is enough and i want to unblock User:Profile101 again and i'll be promised not to do it again. And all those four socks: Eeditflyover, GTX1975, FJY2013 and WorldTrainSpotter were not from me, they were individual accounts. And i'm promised not to do it disruptively on my Userpage again which i'm violated. Please unblock Profile101 and other four socks again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.66.229.67 (talk) 12:45, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

Two things: 1) You are lying. 2) No.
Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:57, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
I'm not lying, i'm telling the truth i'll promise. Don't everything say No and Lying, i'm sending you an apology. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.66.229.67 (talk) 13:05, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
@115.66.229.67: Considering it has been confirmed by our check users that the accounts you mentioned came from the same location, I find it extremely unlikely they are different people. Also your language seriously needs to improve ([8]) before an admin considers unblocking you. I also find that extremely unlikely. Nordic Dragon 22:02, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
Hi Nordic Dragon. This fellow is far beyond saving in my view. He is, by far, the worst at lying that I've ever seen at Wikipedia, and possibly in my entire real life. His lies are so blatant, asinine, and obvious that he should be banned per WP:CIR just for writing them. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:22, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

About Wikipedia

Hi, I want to know how create my wikipedia page Pankaj Choudhary IPS. Can you help me please. bcoz when i am creating the page. you are deleting my content. so please help me. what i do. or how can i do. 10:44, 22 March 2016‎ Michaelcaine346

Hi Michaelcaine346. Pankaj Choudhary (police officer) already exists. There cannot be two articles about the same person at the same time. Please work on that and read what I wrote at your talk page about your contributions. Thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:30, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
Anna Frodesiak But this is my Wikipedia page. i am working on this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.177.192.86 (talk) 11:45, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
No. It is Wikipedia's page. If it is about you, then you are the subject of a Wikipedia page. See WP:OWN. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:21, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

About two articles

Hi, How Are You. Anna Frodesiak .

Yes, Pankaj Choudhary (police officer) is a IPS police officer .
And Another only Pankaj Choudhary is a BJP politician. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michaelcaine346 (talkcontribs) 07:21, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
Okay, Michaelcaine346, so they are two different people, understood. then why do this? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:32, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
Anna Frodesiak what ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michaelcaine346 (talkcontribs) 07:41, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
Michaelcaine346, is Pankaj Choudhary (police officer) an officeholder? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:43, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Username block on Pankajchoudhary IPS

I'm not sure this was an appropriate username block. True, there is a Pankaj Choudhary who is an Indian politician, but there is also a (far lesser known) Pankaj Choudhary (police officer) who is a member of the Indian Police Service (IPS). (I know you've been actively cleaning up the mess on that page.) The blocked user very much appears to be the latter Choudhary, as his sole contributions have been to write about himself. Not the most useful user Wikipedia has ever seen, but I think his username was a legitimate use of his own name, with the IPS acronym to distinguish himself from the politician. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 10:53, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi, WikiDan61. You may be right. But here is my reasoning:
I blocked the following:
They were all editing articles whose subject is Pankaj Choudhary. I used Template:Uw-ublock-famous and softblocked them. A softblock allows them to create a new account without requesting an unblock. It means they have the option of simply registering a new username or proving their identity and keeping their current username.
Policy states "...editing under a username which represents an individual cannot be a violation unless they appear to be impersonating a notable living person...". Both of the Pankaj Choudhary's with articles at Wikipedia are living and both are notable. The fact that they were editing Pankaj Choudhary articles should suggest to an article visitor that they were either Pankaj Choudhary or impersonating him. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:31, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
If you are mistaken in citing User:Pankajchoudhary IPS when you meant User:Pankajchaudhary ips, I acknowledge the latter never edited the policeman article, but only the politician article. However, he did draft User:Pankajchaudhary ips/sandbox, about the policeman. If I were the real policeman Pankaj Choudhary, I would see him as trying to impersonate me. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:37, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Gender Gap

We would love you to join the Gender Gap task force.

There you can coordinate with editors who are addressing the effect of the gender gap on women on Wikipedia – whether as article subjects, editors or readers. If you would like to help, please sign up or visit the talk page.

Happy editing, FiendYT 01:17, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:07, 25 March 2016 (UTC)


A gem of a user

A Gem of Wikipedia
I present you with this award in recognition of your unique contributions to Wikipedia. Your level-headed approach to conflicts and disruption and an example to all users. You show integrity, dedication, diplomacy, and work in the best interest of the project. I mean, how many people would even consider attempting to reconcile with BuickCenturyDriver given their history. Your mind and heart were in the right place and it took guts to even try, regardless of the final outcome. This project needs you and more folks like you and I hope you know it. You are an indispensable asset to the project. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 03:28, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
Thank you so much, EvergreenFir. Of course you realize what you've done. Now I'm going to be impossible. I'll start insisting on the whole "Your Highness" thing again. I'll get back into using "how dare you" and "don't you know who I am" and "don't question my authority". Seriously, thank you. You're very sweet. And I know that on the Internet, nobody knows you're a tree, but I know you must be Hyperion.
As for BCD, well, I sort of feel bad for him, actually. I mean, for us, we share the nuissance. We just click. We spend ten seconds. He spends hours. Why does he try to edit? To help build the encyclopedia. In doing so, he draws other editors away from building the encyclopedia. The irony. And why does he sock? Because his emotions got the better of him. Life is short and he's a human being with a short life. He is wasting his precious hours. It is like a kind of oubliette he's sentenced himself to. Stuck there, nobody thinking about him, hours toiling away, all reverted. A total waste of his life. Who knows, maybe one day he'll figure that out. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:25, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
And that analysis of BCD is exactly why you should be called "your highness". You are exactly correct. Sometimes I get caught up in the drama of things (been trying to be more level-headed when interacting with others who goad/bait me), but I hope to adopt your perspective more often. :D (And lol at the Hyperion reference!) EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 06:22, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
Thank you. And drama, yes, life is too short for drama, unless you're watching a movie that's a drama. Then it's okay. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:26, 25 March 2016 (UTC)


Hey. Recent discussions at Talk:Kim Jong-un reminded me that I wanted to talk with you about this edit you made to the most recent RfC. I did not want to do so at the time of the RfC as there was a small chance it could have been perceived as polluting the RfC. I did not want that to happen. Also, your comments of late show an interest in further understanding the WP:NFCC policy.

In the comments you made in that edit, you addressed all aspects of WP:NFCC #1 except one. That one is really the crux of the debate about the use of a non-free image for Kim Jong-un. The policy says, emphasis mine, "Non-free content is used only where no free equivalent is available, or could be created, that would serve the same encyclopedic purpose." In this case, an important underpinning of the issue is that Foundation, which has taken a very clear stance vis-a-vis the use of non-free images of living people. From Foundation:Resolution:Licensing policy; we "may not allow material where we can reasonably expect someone to upload a freely licensed file for the same purpose, such as is the case for almost all portraits of living notable individuals." The gist of this is the Foundation considers it reasonable to expect a free image can be created for a living individual. Whether such an image exists now is immaterial. The last measurement of whether to allow non-free images has never been whether a free image exists now.

We have made exceptions for living individuals in narrow circumstances. Currently, apparent consensus exists to allow the use of non-free images for living individuals only if they are incarcerated for life, are famously reclusive (as supported by secondary sources, not just what we think), or on the run from the law. We've never carved out an exception for a living person who does not fall into one of those categories.

I encourage you to consider and understand the ramifications of the "...or could be created" aspect of WP:NFCC #1. Wikipedia is a free, as in libre not gratis encyclopedia. Everything...everything...you type that is included in the project is done so under a license that permits libre reuse. We allow non-free material (which is always gratis, not libre) in limited circumstances only because not doing so would significantly harm our ability to be encyclopedic. We have to draw the line in the sand somewhere. If we allow the use of non-free images when free images haven't been found, but could be created, we open the floodgates to a vast number of images, significantly compromising our libre mission. --Hammersoft (talk) 13:30, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

Hammersoft, I see your point. Having missed 10a before, I should not take such a bold position. It could be considered uninformed. :) But was aware of #1. That "...or could be created..." really irks me in this case. That means "could", within the next 50 years (he's 33), become available, right? This is a special case. He's not reclusive. He is just head of, and inside of, an entirely reclusive country. We're not talking about some new dodo actor on Prince of Thrones or some other daft teen show. Those guys want their pic out there. Kim is in control of what pics of him get out. So, it's up to us to debate the likelihood, right? The crux of "could" is likelihood, n'est pas? If debates are always about that, then no floodgates open. True? I just woke up so I may be waaaaaaayyyyy off on this one. The coffee is still just starting it's trek from my stomach to my bloodstream. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:40, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
  • Well, stick this in your coffee :) - Even if unlikely, if it can be created than it could be created, which means using a non-free image now, while he is still alive, and when it is so blatantly obvious that so many people take so many pictures of him, would not be acceptable. If Reuters, AP, etc. can take pictures then it is possible. Therefore, no. --Hammersoft (talk) 22:13, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
Hi Hammersoft. I stuck it in my coffee and it was bitter! :) You say "Even if unlikely...". Sure, so many photos are taken, but how many would be given away for free? The crux of "...no free equivalent..." is again likelihood. Photos of Kim are high-value. AP doesn't do charity work. Tourists don't get pics of Kim. Most North Korean probably don't own cameras, and those who do wouldn't dare take a pic of him or have an opportunity to do so. And if they did, would they give it away, online, with a PD license? Could you give me a scenario how a freebie might become available? Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:28, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
  • Any speculation of the likelihood is just that; speculation. We know for a fact that images can be taken of him. In fact, quite a lot of images are taken of him. That makes it possible. But honestly, we're discussing the specifics here, which isn't really what I was getting at in my original post. We have a mission here. It's a free content mission. Either we support it, or we get rid of the mission. Trying to find some way to circumvent our non-free policies doesn't support our mission. --Hammersoft (talk) 00:33, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
Hi User:Hammersoft. I probably just don't get it, and there is evidence for that. The last RfC was overwhelmingly against a non-free. I trust the judgement of the community and you. What is likely most important here is that I don't go pushing for a non-free at the Kim article and end up convincing a bunch of others who also just don't get it who then join in a call for a non-free. I'll drop the whole thing. That is probably best. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:36, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
  • Well, I'm not after your vote :) Really I mean to be abstract, and not specific to Kim Jong-un. You've been an administrator for several years now. I'm not saying "you should know better" or anything the like; there is no way one administrator can know and understand the entire corpus of Wikipedia policy and guidelines. They are, taken as a whole, poorly written, contradictory, and fraught with misunderstandings. Rather, you've showed an interest in non-free issues and I wanted to help pass on some knowledge. When an administrator steps into a discussion, other editors have a tendency to view their comments as having more weight. Whether that is right or wrong, an administrator needs to be careful about policy debates they enter into. I know you're careful. I just wanted to add to your understanding of the NFCC policy. --Hammersoft (talk) 14:17, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
Hi Hammersoft. You're not after my vote? My vote is awesome! :) And yes, the policies and guidelines, from what I've heard about the Bible, are equally contradictory and confusing. :) You have a good point about the undue weight of admin opinions. I will take extra care. Plus, I will read that darn NFCC page about six more times to be sure I know (and remember) everything. Also, there are things not in there that I've learned from you, such as conventions about use for reclusive, dead, etc. individuals. I am much obliged for your patience with me on this. From now on, I will know more of what I speak before I speak. My very best, :) :) :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:07, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
Interesting. Thank you, Hammersoft. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:35, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

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a question

I'm new here, and I have a question. is it ok to upload a screenshot from a random interview for the Character which the article is about? I mean does that screenshot concept as a copyright or not? Shorouq2911 (talk) 23:07, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi Shorouq2911. A screenshot containing such text would almost certainly be copyrighted. So, yes, please, do not upload it or any more of those photos you took from the Internet. You must own the rights to the photo and write the text in your own words based on the sources (no copy pasting, as I see you have done at ar.wikipedia.org). Thank you. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:36, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

FYI - possible sock of User:Cryx88

Hi. Just letting you know that Kyle Ypres (talk · contribs) recently recreated First Presbyterian Church (Montgomery, AL), which has been created several times by various socks of Cryx88. From memory, the content looks the same as it was the last re-creation. Spyder_Monkey (Talk) 03:27, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you Spyder_Monkey! :) :) :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:32, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

template|extreme wealth

Hello: I posted a TFD on your new template, but reverted because I'm unsure on how to proceed beyond the first step (e.g., the tfd template did not render a discussion page). But I intend to proceed a bit later. Why? The "Extreme" (a loaded term) in "Extreme wealth" is hopelessly POV. "Extreme" in what regard? There will always be a top-end (and bottom-end) to any measurement: "Extreme wealth", "Extreme income", "Extreme return on investment", "Extremely high buildings", "Extremely small oceans", "Extreme poverty", "Extreme uniformity", etc. are not encyclopedic topics. With these thoughts in mind I hope you will be willing to self-revert on the creation of the template. Thanks. – S. Rich (talk) 03:04, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi S. Rich. Back to a user subpage again? Oh dear. Is there any way it could be renamed or modified instead?
Convenience link:
Background:
Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:35, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
I'm not clear on how "userfy" is helpful (in general). But given that simple {{tl:Wealth]] got the ax, there is even less utility in Extreme wealth. Our article wealth defines it as "abundance of valuable resources or valuable material possessions." Is "extreme wealth" the "extreme abundance of valuable resources or valuable material possessions". While I'm not in the 1%, I am extremely wealthy compared to nearly all other individuals in the world. Just where is there a cut-off on measuring "extreme"? Thanks. – S. Rich (talk) 00:12, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
Hi S. Rich. Maybe we cannot see whether or not the navbox is POV. Maybe I am anti-wealth accumulation, and you are pro. I live in Haikou where I see some pretty extreme poverty (which can be defined without POV as people with, well, very, very little money), while you refer to your wealth accumulation (according to your userpage) as a defining characteristic. Maybe we are not the best people to decide.
Aside: Perhaps you could give me some insight. I've always wanted to ask someone who is relatively extremely wealthy. There are studies that show that people with many times more than median wealth are not many times happier. Would you say that is true? My best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:35, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
I hope you live in Haikou#Guomao. Even if you do not, you are extremely wealthy compared to someone suffering from extreme famine. Aside from that, China is an example of how "wealth" has brought hundreds of millions out of extreme poverty. Interestingly, many Chinese are now seeking to get US university degrees, and US universities are catering to them. The result is increased tuition costs for students and more wealth for universities. It is all part of the dynamic between hundreds of millions of consumers and suppliers. (The US "balance of trade" is actually a big circle.) Am I "less wealthy" when I buy a nice shirt from Nordstroms, and is Nordstroms "more wealthy" because they have some of my money? Also, is the Chinese (or Vietnamese or Pakistani etc) textile worker more wealthy because they have some of my money, via a convoluted route? No matter the answer, the bosses of those workers are now able to send their children West for an education. The families will be very proud and happy when their children graduate. Will they be extremely proud or extremely happy – who knows? With these thoughts in mind I reassert my point that putting the subjective "extreme" into WP is POV. I will be happier if you discard the template. Thanks. – S. Rich (talk) 13:30, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
Hi S. Rich. I thought we were talking about our possible POVs regarding the term "extreme wealth". Your post instead appears to be about how China's workers are somewhat wealthier for having the good fortune to earn US money from making Nordstroms shirts while Chinese students are causing US universities to be more expensive.
In reality, of course, university tuition increases are hardly the result of an influx of students from China, nor a dynamic between consumers and suppliers. You have omitted the main reason: States now pay a smaller share of tutution due to lower taxation on corporations and the extremely wealthy. Students now hold record debt because of that. Interest payments on that record debt help make those with extreme wealth even wealthier.
If you still believe "extreme wealth" is POV, please TfD the template. No hard feelings at all. I see it as no more POV than Extreme poverty, Extreme weather, or Extreme commuting. These terms are well-used too along with "extreme XXXXX" all over Wikipedia and the media. Plus, "extreme wealth" is used in plenty of well-sourced content throughout Wikipedia. Anyhow, you may indeed be right, but now more than ever, I think we are both POV. Maybe the community ought to decide. My position is probably that "extreme wealth" is not POV, but rather just subjective or fuzzy. However, if Extreme poverty exists and is defined by good sources, why not extreme wealth? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:09, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
If you would still like to respond to the "Aside" about people being "many times happier", please do so. People here are singly focussed on getting ten times more money than they have and I wonder if they will be ten times happier. Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:09, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Fixing a title of an article

Hi! Can you help me fix the title of this article, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jodi_miller? It was a redirect of another page for a person of a similar name, Jody Leigh Miller, and they moved on with a new article. I am assuming they didn't know how to change it. The Jodi Miller I am speaking of is a comedian. I just need the "M" in her page title capitalized. Thanks in advance.

Jkjk1247 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:06, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi Jkjk1247. I see that at 16:34, after posting here, you redirected Jodi miller to Jodi Miller. Well done! :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:29, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

want to build page

I want to build a page please help me in this Zulqarnain Hundal (talk) 16:35, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi Zulqarnain Hundal. Okay. I can help. Let's get started! Please read WP:42. Then find references and post them here. Then I will look over those references and if there are enough good ones, we can make the article. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 16:47, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

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Instant logout?!?!?!?! That is well into the territory of an inappropriate April Fools joke. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:40, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

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Stop putting fake block messages on the page

I checked the Block log and he is not blocked As a result you will be reported to the admins 16:47, 2 April 2016‎ Hot Riley

I am terribly sorry, User:Hot Riley. Please do not report me. It will not happen again. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 18:18, 2 April 2016 (UTC)