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Recreate Article

Hey the following article Michael Yarmush was deleted sometime ago. Whatever the case was, could I or what would I have to do to recreate it. Hulkster1 (talk) 20:57, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

It wasn't deleted as an AfD so you may recreate it if you want. But, I looked at the deleted article. There were no references and I searched google and found nothing good. I'd say it has a tiny chance of survival if recreated. There are far more notable people to write about here:
Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:24, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Related Users

You have blocked urbanshockers page and not that page is related to myne's. That is bad because you must have done that for no reason. And not only that, there is a chance you will get in trouble by disciplinary groups. I am the same person who edit pages. These usernames are Courtney Abigail, Urbanshester69 (NOT urbanshocker), Holaga, Autumn Night and Soto15.

Thank you for reading it. Sodo15 (talk) 00:37, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Oh, brother! Talk about not getting the point... Viriditas (talk) 02:09, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
Oh, brother indeed. Okay, I believe you about urbanshocker and have unblocked that account. As for you, I'm not sure you understand these two points:
  • You are blocked. That means you, personally. You are not allowed to create new accounts to circumvent the block.
  • You were using Wikipedia to host content about Denver Craft. If you want to contribute content to Wikipedia, let's talk about that. But, you cannot simply make pages and move them about if it is unrelated to building the encyclopedia.
So, now, what do you think? Please communicate with me at User talk:Courtney Abigail. (Please do not create any more accounts.) I'm nice. Really, ask anyone, I'm very understanding. Just tell me what you want to do. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:25, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Meet St. John! (pronounced sinjen),

You need a dragon citation
Very docile, only feeds once a month. 8 metres long and very affectionate. Likes Jaffa cakes. Rips trolls to shreds. Likes his tummy tickled, but don't make any sudden moves to his head. He will prove a loving pet and guardian. I hope all is good with you and yours! Irondome (talk) 02:28, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
Thank you kindly! All is well. I trust all is well with you. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:25, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Anna Frodesiak. You have new messages at Northamerica1000's talk page.
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File mover help

I might need your help moving some files on Commons, but I'm waiting to hear back from the image owner first. Viriditas (talk) 10:11, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

I'm here when you need me. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:25, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
The user has not responded and he's been active so I know he saw my message on my talk page. (You can view my comments here) Here's what I have so far:
  1. I emptied the category Japanese Heritage Gardens on Commons because it contained erroneously categorized images. The category should be renamed to "Kepaniwai Heritage Gardens" and re-populated (which I can do). Should the category just be deleted or is there a way to rename it? I probably should just recreate the new category.
  2. The images that were previously in this category that require renaming are the following:
I will notify the user of this discussion on his talk page. Viriditas (talk) 03:38, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
All done. You can add whatever parent cats you wish to https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Kepaniwai_Heritage_Gardens
Check the cats at the three images.
I speedy tagged the obsolete cat with {{speedy|new cat (Kepaniwai Heritage Gardens) created to replace this one}} . I don't know how to move cats. I just make a new one and speedy the old one. No complaints so far and I've done it many times.
If I got this wrong, let me know and I will fix it. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:54, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, it looks good. I'll start adding some more files. Viriditas (talk) 04:11, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your help

The Forest Floor Desert
You deserve an edible desert that looks like the floor of a forest. From 41 Degrees in Barcelona.[1] Enjoy! Viriditas (talk) 10:40, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
Thank you!!! I have no idea what you mean. Is this about my CPU that's on fire? I'm sorry I was a bit harsh with that IP. I thought he called someone a lizard man in an edit, but that was long ago. Don't ask. :) I was distracted by someone here trying to show me something about mixing eggs. Don't ask. :) Are you in Spain??? I love Spain!!! I almost moved there! I could totally live in Barcelona! Anyway, sorry to be so pixilated today. It's been a blizzard of offwiki stuff. I need to sit in the forest and have tea away from all the hubbub. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:55, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
No, I think you were right to be harsh with the IP. He's playing games (see comments in the next thread below). BTW, speaking of tea, I have it on good authority that Kenya has fantastic tea. I've never tried, though. Viriditas (talk) 11:01, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
Kenya tea, eh? Never had it. It sounds nice. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:07, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

89.106.14.236 / Tervealbeeps

It was fun for a while, but it's grown stale with his latest attempt at social engineering my email address.[2] He's been posting from an open proxy the whole time. Time to block the little guy? Viriditas (talk) 10:47, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

It's not clear what that link means. Any more IPs or accounts, or activity on the known ones please let me know. A block could enflame things. Often, these things just pass. Maybe we should just wait and see. Thoughts? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:07, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
See also: Wikipedia:Open proxies. I'll leave this in your hands. He may or may not be abusing Wikipedia. Time will tell. As for what the link means, that's only the Wikipedia side of things. He sent me multiple emails with no message, only a request that I reply so he could harvest my email address for whatever reason. A bit suspicious if you ask me. Viriditas (talk) 11:12, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
Without knowing about 89.106.14.236 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), I had already indeffed User:Tervealbeeps. I've now blocked the open proxy for one year. It had been blocked before for six months, which recently expired.--Bbb23 (talk) 05:00, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
Thank you. I've been watching. I was just about to indef for the exact same reasons that you did. Cheers, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:04, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
Good to know, and you're nicer than I am, too. --Bbb23 (talk) 05:10, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
Nicer? I'm all about the iron fist these days. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:41, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
Iron palm? Viriditas (talk) 03:32, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
Looks painful. That reminds me to start Iron palm (laundry worker accident). Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:10, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Sentence Help

I am working on a radio station article (when am I not? :)) and I having trouble with making this one sentence sound right. Here's what I have so far, feel free to change them as you see fit (and I'm hoping to take the article to GA).

  • On Sunday Mornings, church services from St. Mary Roman Catholic Church and Spruce Street United Methodist Church, located in Star City and Morgantown respectively, are aired live.
  • On Sunday mornings, WCLG broadcasts two live local church services. Beginning first, with the 8:30am Liturgy from the St. Mary Roman Catholic Church, located in Star City, West Virginia. Then the 10:45am Worship from the Spruce Street United Methodist Church, located in Morgantown.

Both have their problems, but it's the best I can do. Help? - NeutralhomerTalk • 05:10, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Every Sunday morning, WCLG broadcasts live the services at Star City's St. Mary Roman Catholic Church at 8:30am and Morgantown's Spruce Street United Methodist Church at 10:45am.--Bbb23 (talk) 05:22, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
I like, thanks! :) - NeutralhomerTalk • 05:26, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
That sounds good! I'm afraid I have no suggestions. I've been out of Canada so long that I can't form even sentences any more. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:41, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
No worries. :) - NeutralhomerTalk • 05:53, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

ThatCoolGuyOfer

I enjoy how fast you respond again i would like my page unblocked. 05:25, 22 November 2013‎ Thatcoolguyofer

Your page was not blocked. It was deleted. It was your biography and not notable. It is not suitable as an encyclopedia article. Sorry. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:41, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Why?

Why did you delete my page! Put it back! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fishlover2 (talkcontribs) 18:10, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

I deleted it because it was unfit to be an article. Here it is. Please don't make it into an article again:

Fish list

Okay, so mabey you would like to know about different fish prices. I can tell you some of them. This is only at P.A.W.

Betta: 3.00 Danio:.58 (WOW) Neon tetra: 1.30 Sword tail: 4.00 Glass catfish: 4.00 Mystery snail: 1.30 Japonica shrimp: 2.30 Ghost shrimp: .50 Goldfish: 1.00

Thank you for reading this!

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:06, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Blocking

Kira Trunna put me in trouble for 4 days in Sacramento. One day, I will get consequences again for 45 days. Do not tell anyone. Because of this, I saw a message saying "You have been notified a school consequence" and "You have been blocked for any edits". I just called and it didn't help. One day, you will get in trouble for 50 days which is not me who picks the day, although someone will. I just came out. The blockage for the school comment happened with my friends before. It happens on the denver craft game wiki. Do not block any of my pages ever again. Because I lost access to everything.

23.243.80.13 (talk) 19:19, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

I have no idea what you're talking about.
I do know you are User:Courtney Abigail. I've figured that part out.
If you use Wikipedia to host your pages, I will delete the pages and block your account immediately every time. That won't change. This is an encyclopedia. It is not a web hosting service for you to make pages about Denver Craft.
Instructions for you (read carefully):
Please find another place to host your pages. Try http://www.wikia.com/Wikia or somewhere. Maybe you can start your Denver Craft thing there. Good luck in all your future endeavours. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:08, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Leisure society

What do you think of this puzzle? There's a concept called a leisure society, a utopian idea that was written about in hundreds of articles, papers, and books in the 1960s and 1970s.[3] I suppose you could say that they wrote about it back then in the same way we write about a post-scarcity society and transhumanism today. In any case, having had the article on my list of things to do for some time, I went to go and have a look at it to see how it was doing. Imagine my surprise to find that someone had redirected this highly notable concept to a band that formed in 2009 called The Leisure Society. The band is, of course, named after the notable concept, a concept that now has no article. We've seen this kind of thing over and over on Wikipedia. A notable, but older concept that predates the birthdate of most editors and has hundreds of sources but little content gets moved out of the way for a person, place, or thing in popular culture that is named after the concept. What do you make of this kind of "recentism"? To make matters worse, an editor named Dylanfromthenorth (talk · contribs) prodded the article in 2011, which admittedly was a stub, but left an entirely fictitious deletion rationale as a justification for his prod.[4] I commented just now on his talk page.[5] In any case, a few hours after the prod, another editor came around and redirected the stub to the band.[6] Meanwhile, we continue to have a missing encyclopedic topic, and a redirect to a band named after the concept. I'm beginning to see this kind of thing more and more. Notable, historical concepts get pushed aside for references to popular culture because nobody can be bothered to do the hard work researching and writing about the topic. What's the solution to this kind of problem? I previously brought this kind of thing up with the disambiguation project and they told me in no uncertain terms to go take a long walk off a short pier. Any ideas? Pretty soon, every serious topic is going to redirect to "Brawndo". (It's got electrolytes!) Viriditas (talk) 10:20, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Hello Anna and Viriditas, hope you don't mind my commenting. I concur, this sort of thing happens frequently, and it isn't just recentism. Take for example Antigonish, which redirects to the "city" in Nova Scotia. I initiated a move discussion (per a longstanding MOS standard for Canadian cities and towns) that Antigonish, Nova Scotia be moved over the redirect. It was deemed in the discussion that Antigonish (poem) was more of a primary topic than the town it was named after (in which case the DAB page should be at the un-disambiguted title, but that hasn't happened.) That is just my anecdotal evidence however. There is of course the following:
  • It is easier to write about a band than a conceptual society (I don't think anyone would disagree with that), and this the articles are easier to make larger.
  • The PRODed article had a reference but it wasn't standardly formatted (and didn't look much like a reference).
  • The articles have unique names (i.e. The Leasure Society is all capitalized, and is prefixed with "the").
  • People (Wikipedians especially) are always apt to take the path of least resistance (i.e. redirecting an article over formatting a reference).
I personally see no issue with just reverting the redirect and putting hat notes on both articles (as there is no naming conflict), and tweaking the reference to make it look a little better. If you do want to improve the article on the hypothetical society you can of course do it within the article, or within userspace and request a delte-move-history merge (I am sure Anna, or even myself, would be happy to help with the delete/history merging). The convenient thing about having an article redirected rather than deleted is the history is still intact and anyone can view/use the old information as required to rebuild the article if they so choose. I guess in short, yes I agree with you Viriditas. Cheers, --kelapstick(bainuu) 11:02, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
I share Viriditas' concern. However, the original holder of a name isn't necessarily the most notable - I think we have to take it on a case-by-case basis. Consider Boston or Newark... bobrayner (talk) 19:29, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
I'll assume good faith on the PROD, but the redirect was inappropriate. It's hard to say which is the primary, but I'd lean toward the utopian idea.
If the utopian idea meets GNG, then it can stand even without sources so long as it's verifiable if challenged.
So, there are three choice I see:
1) Restore the stub and hat the band article with "Leisure society redirects here, for the utopian concept, see Leisure society"
2) Restore the stub and make it the primary with a hat to the band.
3) Restore the stub, move it to something like Leisure society (concept), and turn Leisure society into into a dab page. Does the pesky "The" in The Leisure Society prohibit that?
As for this issue in general, like bob says, case-by-case. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:35, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
Absolutely case by case, and naturally the first named isn't always the most notable. I would avoid DABing Leisure society for two reasons, first there is a speedy criterion for a DAB page that disambiguate two pages (although there is a caveat of there being a clearly primary topic). Second, the two names are distinct enough (capitalization and "the") to not need a page. I would redirect Leisure Society (capitalized and no "the") to the concept. But that's just me, I have been known to make mistakes. I did sleep in once. --kelapstick(bainuu) 00:06, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
Which speedy criterion? WP:CSD#G6? I see "If there are only two topics to which a given title might refer, but neither one is the primary topic, then it is appropriate to have a disambiguation page at the base name." I know of no guideline saying only two items isn't allowed at dab pages. I've even made a few:
I agree with you about the "The". Technically, these are two different names, so two distinct articles could exist with Leisure society having a hat to the band. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:35, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
Actually Template:Db-disambig says the page must end in (disambiguation) , that's my mistake, as there has to be a primary topic. But again in this case the names are significantly different enough, so a DAB page isn't needed, not that it would be forbidden. kelapstick(on the run) 11:25, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
So, where does that leave us. I guess the best plan would be for someone to expand it to at least a couple of paragraphs. That way, nobody would dare redirect it. But who? I can't because of my functional illiteracy, low IQ, and sheer laziness. Of course, there's Viriditas. :) Hmmmmm, let's see, great with words, high IQ, unlimited energy.....and, oh, yeah, he brought this up in the first place. :) Thoughts? Oh! And I could take a photo of some people doing absolutely nothing. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:49, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
I'd just have to take a selfie, my last four months have been a leisure society. --kelapstick(on the run) 00:01, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
That would be impossible. Nobody can take a pic of themselves while doing nothing. :) Although, about one second after the shot, you could return to doing nothing. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:09, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
"OK glass, take a picture". Heh. Thanks to you both for your help. I see that Tony Veal over at the University of Technology, Sydney has put together a comprehensive working paper on the subject of a "leisure society".[7] The paper covers all research from 1890-2009. Whew, it might take me a while to put something together, but at least I know where to start. Viriditas (talk) 01:53, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Demographia

Saw your concerns on Jl2047a talk page. It's actually quite a used source on the site. We also have an article, List of urban areas by population, that uses data from Demographia. The author of the site is also published. While this may personal preference, the data from this site is much more reliable than sources such as the UN's World Urbanization Prospects. Elockid (Talk) 16:59, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi Elockid. I appreciate your comments. Holy moly. I had no idea it was used so widely. I also have no idea why it has never been mentioned at RS noticeboard.
Just to let you know, I did consult at the admin's IRC channel before acting. I really wanted to make the right decision. Some of the considerations:
  • The site is run by http://www.demographia.com/ and http://www.publicpurpose.com/. The latter has a serious agenda, as does Cox himself. That, plus the general appearance of the site, and the absence of any sources for their data (as far as I could see), made me question the reliability.
  • Another admin asked him to stop and he continued without comment.
  • Ill formatting: To an article which had "population_metro =3,400,000 (2012)", he added formatting like "population_urban =2486000 (March '13)"
  • The edits were to very major articles that get a lot of edits. I didn't want 247 questionable edits to get buried and watch hundreds more articles be affected. It would have been a lot of work to remove even a day later.
I will immediately post at RS Noticeboard and see what the community thinks. I'm also curious what you think of the site. Sure, it's widely used, but I'm not sure that gives it credibility. I will start digging into those other edits to see if there were other mass-additions. Very best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:16, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
For metropolitan areas/urban areas/agglomerations, etc. there's really only two categories I put for them. One that uses solely UN figures and another that uses other methods. The UN based sources tend to have no statistical concept of comparison. Basically it's just comparing apples to oranges. If you look around city forums, there's usually a routine debate of how if London used the same definitions as the US census bureau, the population would be X million. The inconsistent definitions used by sources like UN often cause disputes. The reason I believe what makes the Demographia source more reliable is that they have a criteria for their data and explain the methodology. To ensure consistency, the figures are based off the same criteria. Not only that, it's much consistent with official sources. For example, Seoul's official metropolitan estimate is listed at over 25 million compared to Demographia's 22 million and the UN's figure of less than 10 million. The number for Demographia is much closer. There's also issues like this where sources that use solely the UN have a grossly underestimated figure while the official/semi-official sources have a figure more similar to Demographia. Cities like Moscow, Jakarta, and London are a few examples. Elockid (Talk) 02:29, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
Hmmmm, interesting. Now I don't know what to think. Would you please paste what you've just written at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#demographia.com? I think others would like to know your views. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:35, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
Posted. Elockid (Talk) 04:09, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Writer's Barnstar
Why did you delete fish list? It did have meaning!
Fishlover2 (talk) 22:15, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

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Fils (not the Jordanian coin)

Anything posting about that character will be a sock - I'm blocking on sight. It was established at an AfD that quite a large part appeared to be made up or at best unprovable. A dead giveaway is the element of gender confusion, which would be normal in things translated from Japanese and languages where the pronouns and possessives agree with gender assigned nouns, but isn't in English. (An example being the six foot six black-bearded and heavily muscled sentry being 'elle' in French because 'sentinelle' is for some strange reason feminine.) No sign of this stuff being translated. Peridon (talk) 10:52, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

I actually did a search right after I saw activity at the spi. As far as I've seen, he uses the Fils and other part of the term together each time. I'll put it back on my PC notepad for regular searches. Many thanks, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:59, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Happy Hanukkah!

Happy holiday to you and yours. Everything fried and sweet is good for this holiday. A cardiologists' paradise is this festival :) From Irondome (talk) 08:09, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
Thank you!!! :) :) :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:19, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

Re:Spaces around punctuation

This is the first time I am hearing this,spaces around punctuation.Buy any book published in the subcontinent and you will never find it.I cant say about other countries but for India,we are never taught this.Whats the use of doing these?A punctuation mark itself has its own significane.I have never seen spaces around punctuations used in our country.It might be the same reason we pronounce english with a/o accent - because in our mother tongues we use a/o accents so like that in our scripts we never put spaces around punctuations and is not practised.RRD13 (talk) 13:46, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi there. I actually prefer to keep discussions in one place. At the top of my talk it says "If I started a thread on your talk page, I am watching. Please reply there." I hope you don't mind, but I will paste your reply back at your talk and reply there. Many thanks, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:56, 28 November 2013 (UTC)


Signature

Was wondering whether having the old signature (but linking to the new username) would not violate the signature policy. My old name resembles the actual username sufficiently in my opinion, but still good to ask. --HTMLCoder.exe / talk / stalk 08:10, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

I don't know a lot about signatures. Perhaps Wikipedia:Signatures or a stalker can help. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:38, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
I don't think it's an issue. wctaiwan (talk) 16:29, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) Seems fine to me. Technical 13 (talk) 17:06, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) I third that motion. bobrayner (talk) 17:47, 29 November 2013 (UTC)


Stressed rats

Hi there! I recently removed some primary animal research from the Clinical applications section of Medical cannabis, and you reverted without comment ... I was wondering why? Alexbrn talk|contribs|COI 13:35, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Oh dear, I'm terribly sorry! I must have accidentally clicked the rollback link at my watchlist. It happens every few months. Usually I notice it and self revert. This time I guess I missed it. My humblest apologies. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:44, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
Aha! no problem, I'll remove those rats again ... Alexbrn talk|contribs|COI 13:46, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your understanding. Sorry again. Oh, and can you tell the rats hi. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:51, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Demographia

Seeing as the discussion on the Reliable Sources noticeboard seems to have dwindled down, I suppose we can now remove the demographia references from the articles, as others seem to have agreed to it. What do you think?

If so, I'll start removing the references from the articles if it's consfirmed to be a non-reliable source.

TheOriginalSoni (talk) 08:14, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Well, I did quite boldy start that subsection at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#demographia.com called "Result of debate". So, as a courtesy to User:Elockid, maybe we ought to wait a little while. I also wish to remove the community-disapproved figures and refs from the articles. User:Elockid's blessings to remove the content would be ideal. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:45, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

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about Shanghai Securities News

Dear Anna

Sorry for bothering you. I think there might be some misunderstanding in the page I created for a Chinese News Paper. What I quoted is a general description of the newspaper itself on its website. And I don't think it is a copyrighted text. And I had also written my own description for this newspaper.

So please kindly confirm this for me, and If there is still some copyrighted information, I can change and rewrite it.

Thank you very much!

Snowcleaner — Preceding unsigned comment added by Snowcleaner (talkcontribs) 12:03, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry to say that someone has already deleted the article. Also, the content you quoted was from http://english.cnstock.com/, which has a copyright notice at the bottom. If you wish to recreate the article. I'd suggest first reading WP:42, and then finding sources. Once you've done that, let me see the sources and I can give you an idea about the viability of the article. By the way, out of curiousity, do you work for the organization? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:48, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

atman yoga

Hello Anna, i don't know why the page was deleted? the Atman yoga is a specific technique of integral yoga to reach to self, what was the reason that it is deleted? www.atman.lt this website belongs to practice of atman yoga, i am basically from India and founder of atman and chetna yoga in the world i have been thousands of seminars and various informations but we are not very advance to use the high internet technology, on suggestion of a friend we made this wiki page so people can know the way which was started with swami atmananda sarswati ji waiting for your kind response. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.63.231.106 (talk) 12:42, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Someone has already deleted the article. Are you interested in promoting your organization through Wikipedia? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:48, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Dear Anna, at the moment what i have is the real knowledge from Vedas, Upnishadas and the atman yoga which is the technique which was developed by me and my master and we are spreading over all world, www.atman.lt Rigveda, upnishadas- from where the system of atman yoga came into existance

can we have a page where we can put the logo of atman yoga,at the moment we are helping specifically to disabled people of society. I hope wiikipedia will help us to make the page and to reach to the humanity with authenticity we are not creating any page for any advertisment, our whole aim is to make the system comfortable for people so they can reach it. Blessings

Aum. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.63.231.106 (talk) 13:05, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Having an article is about WP:42. I can't find enough good sources. Can you?
Are you interested in promoting your organization through Wikipedia? Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:08, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Dear Anna,Aum Yes, We want to keep the Wikipedia page, It will be also help to the humanity, We will try to put more and more authentic information on the page regarding Atman Yoga, As i mentioned we are making everything from ourselves and it is taking a little time, we will put more information and also will update it soon. Thank you. Blessings. Aum — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.63.231.106 (talk) 16:35, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi User talk:Atman Yoga. I'm not sure what you said yes to. Was it finding sources or wishing to promote your organization? Anyway, here's the way forward for you: Find references that support the concept and the content and which are independent of your organization. Accept that your website will never appear in the article. Let me know when you've finished the first thing and I will advise. Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:51, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Dear Anna, Aum, Today itself i will put the article on website which will be independent with authenticity, Thank you for your kind help. belssings, Aum — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.63.231.106 (talk) 06:51, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Aum, okay. Good luck. I'm glad I was able to help. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:57, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

http://www.walkden.uk.com/files/7213/1711/9376/Hinduism_-_Brahman_and_Atman.pdf Atman , or ‘True Self’ . Thus the Upanishads state, “This Atman within my heart is that brahamn


Tension between impersonal monism (Brahman = Atman = universe) and personal theism. Note: not clear that there is the absolute monism of Advaita (non-dual) Vedanta, a much later movement that claims that the absolute unity of Brahman and Atman precludes any plurality or change--any sensible world whatsoever http://www.wabashcenter.wabash.edu/syllabi/g/gier/306/upanlec.htm


http://www.pluralism.org/religion/hinduism/introduction/brahman The pluralism project, Harvard University

The self or Atman http://motherandsriaurobindo.org/Content.aspx?ContentURL=/_StaticContent/SriAurobindoAshram/-09%20E-Library/-01%20Works%20of%20Sri%20Aurobindo/-01%20English/-03_CWSA/-28_Letters%20On%20Yoga-I/-05_The%20Self%20or%20Atman.htm


“The Atman is the only existence in the human body which is immaterial. Because it is immaterial, it cannot be a compound, and because it is not a compound, it does not obey the law of cause and effect, and so it is immortal. That which is immortal can have no beginning because everything with a beginning must have an end. It also follows that it must be formless; there cannot be any form without matter. Everything that has form must have a beginning and an end. We have none of us seen a form which had not a beginning and will not have an end.”

The Atman: Its bondage and freedom- Swami Vivekananda http://www.vivekananda.net/booksbyswami/JnanaYoga/15_AtmanBondageFreedom.html


These are the specific authentic links from where the Atman yoga came into existance with blessings of my master Swami Atmanand Sarawati. Waiting for your kind response Aum — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.63.231.106 (talk) 08:21, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)@78.63.231.106: Have you seen our our guidance on reliable sources? The links you provided are not academic in nature. So far as I can tell, atman yoga is a branding term, not a theological term. We have articles on yoga and atman (as the former is a means of connecting to the latter). If you look at how those articles are written, I think you can get an idea of what would be required. Consider working in a sandbox to develop your content and submit it to WP:AFC. You could also talk to WP:WikiProject Religion for additional help. Chris Troutman (talk) 08:52, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
Excellent advice. Plus, I don't see the word "yoga" appearing too many times in those sources anyway. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:27, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Can i ask one thing then why Integral Yoga can be a page , in whole yogic contest there is no word as integral in English but still it exists, writings are developed on the basis or practice so it created. Atman is another word and Yoga is else. Yes but to reach to atman the yoga is atman yoga. it is not my personal belief, as i mentioned my master founded this system from himalayas and we wanted to have a wikipedia page so it is easy to make understand and to reach for everyone easy that what atman yoga is Can we have a wikipedia page? Aum, Blessings — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.63.231.106 (talk) 10:29, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

I can give the orignial source from vedas and upnishadas in sanskrit, something which is in existance — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.63.231.106 (talk) 10:31, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Please read Wikipedia:Otherstuffexists. I don't know if Integral Yoga is notable, but it appears that Atman yoga is not. If you can find good references, then it can be an article. Again, read WP:42.
Also, you said "we" and never answered my question from before. Are you interested in creating this article because you wish to promote it? Does this have something to do with your organization and drawing people to it? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:09, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Dear Anna, This is a vedic style of writing where you use the word "we" for yourself, it is nothing to do with a group as generally people do in english, no , we don't want to promote anything, we don't want any advertisment, if you feel anywhere anytime like advertisment, you can remove anytime. Integral yoga is a wikipedia page — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.63.231.106 (talk) 11:28, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Fair enough. Okay. So, I guess the next step is to follow the advice written above by Chris Troutman. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:20, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Mail

I sent you an email, feel free to reply it, please. Miss Bono [hello, hello!] 00:47, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Turkish cuisine template

Somebody wants us to reach consensus again about the colouring. This time on Template:Cuisine of Turkey. She thinks the discussion on Template:Turkish cuisine was irrelevant. So we have to do it all over again to avoid an edit war. Stupid, but necessary. The Banner talk 18:45, 8 December 2013 (UTC)


It's a daily occurrence now

So, I'm looking for an article on Sigfried Giedion's famous book, Mechanization Takes Command (1948). Click on the link. Is it about the book? :) Viriditas (talk) 11:32, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

I believe you. So, what should be done? Do we have some sort of page to handle these? By the way, the album gets only a few hits a day and Giedion gets something like 60.
For convenience, here's the link to the last one you brought to our attention: User talk:Anna Frodesiak/archive39#Leisure society
Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:31, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
This may sound dumb, but if nobody has written about the book, why shouldn't the Mechanization Takes Command page be about the album? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:11, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
There's no such thing as a dumb question, and by asking it, you've hit upon my main concern. It isn't that it shouldn't be about the album–obviously that's fine. The problem that I'm finding is a) when we have a primary topic, it is often relegated to a redirect or subsumed under a popular culture article which takes precedence, and b) when we don't have an article on the topic, we often have a popular culture article using its name. So, you're right, there's nothing wrong at the moment, other than the fact that we are lacking good coverage of encyclopedic topics by name, while many of these topics are found only in references to popular culture. I agree that the solution is to expand the original topics, but I'm seeing so much of this on a daily basis that I think your suggestion for a list of x articles that don't have primary topics is a really good idea. Viriditas (talk) 23:26, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
That makes sense. So, are you suggesting a category, or would a page, say, as part of WP:Requested articles be needed? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:55, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
I would like to see Wikipedia:Notifications used for this kind of thing. For example, users could sign up for specific notifications either through their WikiProject or through some kind of topic or interest based news feed. If someone finds an important topic that isn't covered properly, there should be a way of adding it to a notification feed that then distributes this article to other feeds watched by interested editors. We could also interface with User:SuggestBot to distribute these articles to interested users. There's a lot of untapped potential for this kind of feature. I say this because a lot of new editors come here and start editing because they can't find a topic they are looking for! Now, what if we could also tap into the editors we already have who have the interest and/or expertise to help out. And what if we took this one step further, and matched up multiple editors with similar interests, and invited them to collaborate? You see where this can go? We can create and promote a collaborative-driven editorial system that gets results, rather than the tag and abandon it system that we have in place. The possibilities for this kind of thing are endless. We need to start moving away from static requested articles pages and start using the system to draw editors into the process. While some editors will surely want to be left alone, many others are here to share what they know and learn what they don't. Viriditas (talk) 01:06, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
I like it. And I agree that those static lists can get ignored. (The images needing articles has gone really dry this past few months.) So, what's the next step? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:13, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
This discussion could go in many directions, so it might be helpful to take a step back and see where we've been. When you first started editing, you might remember that requested article feeds appeared in the top of your watchlist where MediaWiki:Watchlist-details appears today. So that's one example of how these types of requested articles were once fed to other editors. Another example are the static pages we have today, many of which are now under the auspices of corresponding WikiProjects. Many years ago, I experimented with creating project categories for requested articles because I believed a bot could then be created to "distribute" the members of these categories to interested users. Of course, everything I created was deleted by admins who probably no longer edit here. As I mentioned earlier, we have SuggestBot, but that only helps connect editors with already existing articles and doesn't help editors network with other editors. Can you think of anything else I missed? Viriditas (talk) 03:49, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
I don't remember requested article feeds appearing in the top of my watchlist. Anyway, this whole take it to 'em plan sounds very good. It's about content creation, and you know how I feel about that. So, three parts, right? Find people who want to create. Generate the list of items to create. Figure out the mechanism to match them up. Is this the right path? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:44, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
Anna's snail stub showing active contributors working on article elements
You don't remember the old watchlist menu? There's supposed to be a project space page somewhere that documents the features and changes over the years. I wonder if that feature is located there. I'm surprised you don't remember. It was the old watchlist interface with the requested articles feed running across in bright red links. It's really hard to forget! :) As for the path, sure that's one way to describe it, but how would you visualize it? Look at all of the wasted real estate on this screen, starting from the top right to the left corner working your way down on the left sidebar and then across the bottom of the screen. There's a lot of opportunity to use that space to interact with other editors and their articles. At the moment, I'm confined to this input box, which is circa mid-1990s technology. If I'm interested in snails, and you're creating a new stub about a snail, I should be able to see that new snail stub pop up somewhere as a live notification. Although there are a million ways to visualize this, you could take a traditional approach and think of it as a pie with missing pieces indicating a new stub. It could appear on the screen showing the name of the primary contributors working on it as a visualization of a recent changes feed. So we already have this data, but I'm talking about delivering it to users who want it. Projects have this already but I want to be able to see it on this screen on a sidebar, let's say, as a little pie popping up with the name of the editors and the name of the stub. A new talk page message might make a pie slice phase or blink, or allow for live annotations. Let's say you create a red link in the new snail stub that needs a new article. A red link in that new stub could automatically notify a group of interested editors in another topic area indicating that a new article is waiting to be created, and a little pie indicating a new red link could appear in the interested editors notification bar. The possibilities are endless. One thing though, I would like to see the interface become more receptive to touch and talk feedback. What if you could move those pie pieces around and get information from them? This site is far too mousy, too old school. We're moving into touch, talk, AR and ubiquity territory. As an editor, I would love to write and research articles when I'm jogging or walking or even laying down. And people who use tablets aren't going to be satisfied with what we currently have; nothing is swipeable except for browser direction. What if you could move these pies around and get information from them? Drop them into other pies for categories, or add other editor pies for notifications? Now how about taking multiple pies and getting actual intersection query results in the form of new pies? And what about seeing the links between pies, pulling up timelines, family trees, the history of an idea, the development of a technology, displaying all linked topics in one continuous chain of interconnected knowledge in whatever form you want? Viriditas (talk) 11:59, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
The old watchlist menu doesn't ring a bell. Maybe that was before my time. I have no idea what to suggest. Your plan would be opt-in, right? I say this because we want to send stuff out there, but lots of people on the Internet are all about stopping people trying to get in. Maybe that's why Wikipedia is so nice. It's clean. No bombardment. I find all that "...touch, talk, AR and ubiquity territory..." terribly overwhelming.
So, if users could request some sort of display message saying what's happening, and it's not making the page load slower, and people want it, fine. I like the idea. I don't really understand the pie thing, though. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:00, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
Have you already visited Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-echo to see what is already available? And when you open your notifications menu at the top, do you see all the different icons indicating the type of notice? I'm not sure what is so overwhelming about touch, talk, AR and ubiquity. When you say the interface is clean, I'm not sure I agree. If you visit a lot of different sites (I know your access is severely restricted) you would find that this site is very far behind. Viriditas (talk) 08:55, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
At Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-echo, I see the following with tickboxes, and no icons:
Notify me about these events
Web Email
Talk page message
Thanks
Mention
Page link
Page review
Edit revert
That's it. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:35, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi, Anna. There are echo icons associated with each action that appear in your flyout menu. I've added them above. You can view them in your own notification window by clicking Special:Notifications. Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 03:47, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
Yes, I have some of those ticked. You must think I'm daft. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:59, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
No, not at all. Feel free to archive this thread. BTW, any new updates on the status of cone snail venom research? Viriditas (talk) 10:03, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
I don't know about the Conus thing. But it would be a shame to archive this without figuring out something to do. What do you think a good next step would be? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:07, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
Archiving.  :) You should look into the topic of cone snail venom. It's quite fascinating. Check out Ziconotide. The scientist who discovered it had just graduated high school. Viriditas (talk) 10:13, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
Well, maybe you're right. I think we started discussing taking redirects that should be articles but still aren't, and thinking how to make a list or cat of those as articles needed. Then we moved to discussing how to turn passive lists into some sort of notification system like the one before I was around. Then, I sort of started to feel like I was flying blind in the discussion. Then, I started to think how I and others encourage users to work on things but they are usually busy with other things to do. I think the discussion lost focus. This is what happens when you discuss things with a scatterbrain. I'm so sorry. You should see my kitchen drawers. Good luck finding the scissors. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:19, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
Ziconotide looks like the insulated pipes for refrigeration units. Next time I fall down the stairs, I'll drink some and let you know how it works. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:23, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

The Wikipedia Library Survey

As a subscriber to one of The Wikipedia Library's programs, we'd like to hear your thoughts about future donations and project activities in this brief survey. Thanks and cheers, Ocaasi t | c 15:40, 9 December 2013 (UTC)


Usernames that never reply to the "username concern" query

I just let them go; sometimes, I suspect, they just go and start new accounts with acceptable usernames. If they resume and people still have issues with that name, the warning is still on the page and the conversation can be resumed. Daniel Case (talk) 00:07, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Fair enough. To keep Category:Wikipedia usernames with possible policy issues clean, I've been encouraged to removed the category from the template after a week or so. Should I leave a note at usertalk saying so, or just remove it and that's it? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:10, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
I think the latter. A lot of these accounts rarely edit again; when they do, someone with username concerns will usually look at the talk page first anyway. Daniel Case (talk) 00:22, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
I will follow your advice. Thank you, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:25, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Removed image

Hi Anna, I just pulled the image that you added to the Prickly Pear Island article a few months ago because it represents a different island off of the island of Anguilla, not the one off of Antigua that's the article's subject. I left a mention on the article's talk page. thanks 70.48.217.87 (talk) 23:56, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. :) I would never have guessed that the name "Prickly Pear island" is so common. Cheers, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:19, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

merger proposal

see this discussion. Frietjes (talk) 16:12, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

!supported. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:00, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Uroševac/Ferizaji

Hello AF.

You asked an interesting question here[8]. However your reply of there only being 26 Serbs from IJA doesn't answer why there is no match (eg. if that were a valid reason, the page should have been at that target and then questions on how it is in English sources would come to light and the bulk of coverage comes from 1999 when the name found itself on people's lips and then it was being reported as Uroševac). Further to that, the issue at hand is not that there is no match, but the article currently stands protected in a vandalized state because it doesn't contain ONE cache reference to its article title, all mentions of Uroševac have been removed without consensus here[9]. Also, if you care to examine the same edit, you will see that word "Ferizaj" plastered down the entire foreign languages section and this is turn is landing on duff targets - if that is constructive please explain what isn't. This revision is not only a better overall presentation but the languages are all correct, where the article is called Ferizaj it is left as such and in languages where it is called Uroševac that is how it is given. In Turkish it is Ferizovik and as for Serbian, Russian and others, not only is Ferizaj wrong but the articles are written in Cyrillic and so displaying Ferizaj is plain wrong in every way. I must insist that you do the right thing and DISCARD that I have abused multiple accounts and assert your authority there, because your friends J delanoy, Mark Arsten and Bobrayner's remaining Guard of Honour are protecting this racket. Bobrayner may be on good terms with you but he has been issued three ARBMAC warnings in 2013. You are the FIRST non-involved editor (let alone admin) to broach this subject which has dragged on too long. So. Will you act? Or will the likes of IJA remain free to spread pro-Kosovar Albanian propaganda. 94.197.118.80 (talk) 11:50, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Click on the Bulgarian link, here is where it takes you. Where it should go is here (Феризово). That is Ferizovo in Roman lettering. 94.197.118.80 (talk) 11:57, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Another day, another Evlekis-sock. Sorry you're getting dragged into this mess too, Anna :-) bobrayner (talk) 20:48, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi bob. Hi sock.

I'm neutral. My allegiance is to Wikipedia, not Wikipedians.

I personally don't care which name is used. I care about visitor experience. Right now the title and only name used within the article don't match. There's no explanation for visitors and they must be confused.

I've replied at Talk:Uroševac#Uroševac or Ferizaji

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:21, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Good call

on User:OrlandoBoynton. I was fooled because unlike all the other ones of these I've seen, an article was posted. This might be a new move by the opposition... Peridon (talk) 11:39, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Is it certainly a spambot? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:29, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
The user page friendly intro with hidden link says spambot, but that Pornhubtest page makes me wonder. I also wonder if some of the 'spambots' are actually cloud workers. You know, the ones paid 5p or so per task. There's an understanding of WP in that they hide the links, but absolutely no understanding in the way they stick to a script, and don't seem to realise that a user page belonging to 'Joe Bloggs' is not going to be visited by anyone at all. Except for the patrollers, who don't seem to be understood, either... I'm not sure how spambots work, but they must be able to read the captcha thing. I've just created an alternative account, and the captcha was the easiest I've ever seen. Peridon (talk) 10:46, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
It's all very strange to think that there are people who do this. And now this. Bot or not? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:30, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Demographia yet again

Hi,

The conversation on the RS noticeboard seems to have been archived. Given that the discussion seems to have been mainly in favour of removal, would it be safe to start removing the links from the article? What would you suggest we do while doing the relevant removals?

Regards, TheOriginalSoni (talk) 23:20, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I agree. I think it is safe to remove the figures and accompanying references.
I think we should just give a link to the archived discussion in the edit summary like:
Remove figures and reference per Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 161#demographia.com
Is that what you mean? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:28, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Yes, that is what I meant. I'll be on the task right now TheOriginalSoni (talk) 01:13, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
  • There is a relevant discussion on my talk page where you could chime in with your thoughts. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 01:54, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
Chimed, thanks. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:30, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Entry removal

Yes you sure researched right. Indeed it is only one because hard rind, aged, cheese was not produced in Serbia before. This one is first farmstead artisanal one in Serbia. We are currently in procedure of protecting origin of our product. Maybe if you would wait couple of hunderd years Kozjak become will be the name of widespread type of chease in Serbia, until then it is something new in this area which sure should be mentioned, not just as pionirig effort but as brand that has its audience in Serbia and the World. If you would delete my entry, I wonder how French ambassador whom brought our cheese with him self in his country to show it, would explain this to his wikipedia reading friends. In the end, why have you deleted my post, and didnt Pule cheese, one line below, which is also produced by one farm in Serbia, and is not native. Thank you for your effort, and hopefully understanding :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Palexic (talkcontribs) 11:57, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Hello, my friend. Please don't be upset. I removed your entry because List of cheeses should really be about notable cheeses. That means cheeses that can be googled and possibly have their own article. Your cheese is not so much a kind of cheese as it is a family brand. Also, adding the link to your website seemed promotional.
If you can show that this cheese is produced in places outside your company, please provide the links. Or, if your cheese is so notable that it passes WP:42, then certainly it should not only be in the List of cheeses article, but may merit its own, standalone article.
By the way, I think you making goat cheese is a great thing. People who make good, artisanal food, deserve the highest respect.
Oh, and I'm not trying to be mean, just doing my best to help Wikipedia. Thank you very much for your understanding. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:12, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Requested move: Uroševac/ Ferizaji

As you have recently been involved with the discussion on the talk page, I'm inviting you to voice your opinion on the requested move. Please see the discussion here. Regards IJA (talk) 13:21, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Done, thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:30, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Prikunjsharma

ok, I will never do it again. but please approve my request to Change in Username.

Thank You — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prikunjsharma (talkcontribs) 06:49, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your understanding about the self-promotion. I hope you intend on helping build the encyclopedia.
As for your username, bureaucrats change the names, which may take a few days. If you want, you may register a new username and abandon this old one(s). If you do, please tell me what it is so that I can redirect your current userpages there. Also, please tell me if Missalishasharma is also operated by you, or another person. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:56, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Birthdate of Patrick Whitefield

Please check the birthdate of Patrick Whitefield. Your revision of 01:08, 1 September 2013, says "January 23, 1514". (Your talk page is now on my watchlist.)
Wavelength (talk) 20:30, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for catching that. I had the invisibles absent at my junkbox. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:43, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Season greetings

Merry Christmas, and happy new year! Hope all is well. Best wishes - Danger^Mouse (talk) 20:41, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you kindly. All is well. I hope all is well with you. May this season find you in the happiest place you can choose. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:30, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
I've lost hope, and happiness ages ago. Best wishes. - Danger^Mouse (talk) 17:29, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
If you look to the right place, you may find it. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:53, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Soham (talk) 13:25, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. Happy holidays to you too. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:56, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you!

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
Thanks for being [nice], you are making Wikipedia a better place for everyone. Regards, Sun Creator(talk) 14:26, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
Thank you very kindly. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:56, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

I saw you had advised this group, so I did not block but told them about WP:ORGNAME and WP:NOTWEBHOST; however, they took no notice and simply started re-creating the FAKEARTICLE about their band on their user page, so now I have softer-blocked. JohnCD (talk) 15:48, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, John. I've been watching and would have done exactly the same. I'll keep an eye on the string at userspace for a while in case he tries to make the page again. Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:56, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

SG

Seasonal Greetings

Visitor7 (talk) 20:41, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. Happy holidays. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:24, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Happy holidays

JianhuiMobile talk 07:51, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

Happy holidays to you! Thank you very much. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:24, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Soham 08:31, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

humor?

is there anything left to insult in asians? if you insult god i think even he has nothing left in him. god is dead. asia is dead. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jason Bourne Jr. (talkcontribs) 13:32, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

I got this too. It's weird isn't it? Jaguar 21:30, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

Happy solstice-related (aka winter-in-the-Northern Hemisphere) holiday(s)!
To my very good Wikipedia friend, I wish you a joyful "winter in the northern hemisphere holiday" or "northern solstice day(s) in the southern hemisphere holiday", whichever of the holiday or holidays you celebrate (all or any)! Invertzoo (talk) 19:39, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
Thank you. Happy holidays to you -- all of them. Sorry to be out of touch. It's very, very nice to hear from you. I hope all is well. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:17, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
Same to you too Anna! Yes all is very well with me, thanks for asking; I hope everything is OK with you too. A week ago we spent two weeks in Sanibel, Florida, the shell capital of the USA. It was warm and sunny and really lovely; found a bunch of shells I had not found before, including a few that were new to the list for SW Florida. And so far NYC has not really been hammered by any of the big winter storms that have caused suffering in a lot of the rest of the country. NYC did range from 70º F (what???) last Sunday to the mid-20s today. But we are fine. Hugs, Invertzoo (talk) 00:45, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
Great to hear back from you, Susan. I'm very pleased to hear that you found new shells. I checked out some Sanibel images. It looks lovely and the name sounds like a hand soap product too. :)
You are lucky not to have had the big storms that Canada got. I think they are all still in the dark feeling around for the turkey.
Things are good here. Lots of flooding in the countryside a couple of months ago. The timing was okay. Only a few sugarcane fields destroyed from what I saw. It left the land more fertile and caused a boom in those bugs that walk on water and in freshwater snails. The farmers collect the snails and either eat them or feed them to the ducks. So, we should have more ducks, which is good. I like ducks. I don't like geese. Sometimes geese chase me down the road so I'm frightened of them. Hugs to you and happy holidays. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:22, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

Thank you. Merry Christmas to you too. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:17, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

HELLO ANNA FRODESIAK ASKING PAGE MICHAEL FRAYSSE

Hello , nice to meet you ,

I am a French Composer Pianist clasical Music ,

Presentation Youtube Michael FRAYSSE Pianist Composer  : http://www.youtube.com/user/MichaelMusicPiano/about

Video Youtube Michael FRAYSSE Pianist Composer : http://www.youtube.com/user/MichaelMusicPiano/videos

Album iTunes Michael FRAYSSE : https://itunes.apple.com/bg/artist/michael-fraysse/id590634429

Single SoundCloud : https://soundcloud.com/michael-fraysse-composer

ReverbNation  : http://www.reverbnation.com/michaelfraysse

And Also …..


I realy Would like to have a Article Page by Wikipedia .

I don't know if it's possible…

Can you Help me ?

King Regards.

Michael FRAYSSE. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michael fraysse (talkcontribs) 01:06, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Hello Michael Fraysse. Nice to meet you too. Well, the links you gave above are not really suitable. I googled you and didn't find media coverage. While it is strongly discouraged, you may create an encyclopedia article about yourself. If you think you are notable, prepare it in your sandbox after reading WP:42 and Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide. Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:58, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

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Flat Out let's discuss it 11:12, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks...

...for your information about probable sockpuppets. One of the accounts is enough of a duck that I have blocked it (despite the hoax edits being put among some constructive edits, perhaps in an attempt to hide them), and likewise with the IP address. The other one looks to me very probable, but the amount of editing so far is too small to be able to be certain. It may be worth asking for a CU, in view of the possibility of sleepers; otherwise it seems to me that it's just a matter of wait and see if the account edits. Any opinion? JamesBWatson (talk) 17:52, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

We have User:Flat Out to thank. He noticed something amiss. After that, the IP connected things to the master. I found no SPI, perhaps a DENY thing, but in light of the new cases, I thought it appropriate to open Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/AsIGooglePackupYaBagsInUrOldSkin. I hope we can get a CU for the single edit account and a sleeper search. Best wishes and thanks for your help. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:35, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. It took me a little while to remember who this guy was, but now I remember. It looks like everything has been handled. Unfortunately, this is the second cricket obsessed LTA that I know about, though this one is a little more disruptive. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 04:13, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Infobox Photo Discussion

Hi. Can you offer your opinion in this discussion regarding the better photo for an article Infobox? Thanks, and Happy Holidays. Nightscream (talk) 23:47, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

I commented/threw a wrench into the works (again). :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:35, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Eric Hennig page submitted for deletion

Hello,

I have added URL's in reference to the above actor regarding media coverage. After searching his information he seems to have a large fan base and a lot of media articles, news interviews, ect about him. He also has a verified twitter account incase you didn't see that.

Thank you,

Jeff Entertainment4u2013 (talk) 01:53, 28 December 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Entertainment4u2013 (talkcontribs) 01:39, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi Jeff. I've restored the deletion tag. That must remain until the debate is settled at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eric Hennig (2nd nomination).
Please read WP:42. I just don't see the subject passing WP:GNG.
Is your username related to www.entertainment4u.co.za/‎ or http://www.manta.com/c/mtm57f4/entertainment-4-u-llc or some other organization? Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:46, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi Anna,
My user name is not related to that website or any other organization. I just made it up. :-)
I read WP42, thank you! I found a press release from Target Corporation interviewing Eric about his career and how he worked at the company prior to acting. He also has another press release with STL post dispatch which is listed on his references on the page. When searching I've also found interviews of him on news stations doing press for past projects. It looks like his twitter account is verified as well. Would all of that not qualify?
Thank you!! Entertainment4u2013 (talk) 05:32, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

[1]

No relation an organization, understood.
I'm not sure you read WP:42 carefully enough. It says "Not a press release."
Twitter doesn't say anything about notability.
I'm really not sure there is enough in terms of media coverage. Let's see how the AfD debate goes. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk | contribs | block) at 05:53, 28 December 2013.
WP:42 not a press release, understood. I was referring to having an article by a reliable sources. I may of not worded that the best.
About twitter, Another user commented on the deletion page that "As stated in WP:NACTOR.one of the traits that makes an actor or actress notable is: "Has a large fan base or a significant "cult" following".
Wouldn't the actors twitter page meet that requirement? I'm still fairly new to the editing process. Thank you very much for the information and tips! How exactly does the AFD debate work? Cheers! Entertainment4u2013 (talk) 20:37, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
I'm not sure what you mean by "...WP:42 not a press release, understood. I was referring to having an article by a reliable sources...."
I don't know anything about Twitter. I'm in China where it's blocked. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:20, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
I'm sorry I can't be more helpful.
By the way, if you are connected to the subject in any way, please read Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:20, 28 December 2013 (UTC)


In your nomination for the deletion of File:Darj.28rh252-4643.29.jpg you listed 3 other files, but did not tag them appropriately for the discussion. Could you please go back and tag them appropriately, or better yet, open new separate discussions for the three? Thanks, -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 19:49, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

I've tagged the others all for the 26th because now it's the 29th, and I don't want to confuse others even more. Please let me know if you still want them separate. Thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:20, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
By the way, you must find it frustrating that users don't follow the 3 steps properly. I was one, maybe because Twinkle handles it like it handles a PROD. It just says it's notifying and creating the entry, etc. I never saw any message saying that I was supposed to tag images in articles. I never knew about the 3 steps. Did I miss some information message somewhere? Could this be one of the reasons that people tag incorrectly? Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:05, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
To be honest, apparently, I haven't followed the process correctly. I would venture that 95% of editors do not follow the process correctly. Another editor pointed it out, and started accusing others of purposely disruptive behavior by not knowing all of the steps involved. I was just coming to you in WP:AGF since the other editor could not be bothered to handle this in an appropriate way. The only way to know the steps is to ready the discussion tag on the images or by going to the WP:PUF guideline. Sorry about all of this, and thanks for your understanding. Cheers. -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 13:09, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
If most don't follow the process correctly, it may be due to some missing info message needed when using Twinkle. It's worth investigating somehow. Maybe survey those who make mistakes to find out why. Thoughts? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:47, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
The simple answer for why its not done is that its not part of the automation of twinkle. Twinkle does for PUF what it does for FFD and NFCR which is just create a discussion on the appropriate page, and tag the image with the discussion tag. In the multiple years that I've worked in the file space I have never "correctly" went through the process with the caption tag. I don't think a single "regular" editor at any of the three above does that. No one has really brought it up as being an issue until recently. Based on the recent closing of Template_talk:Non-free_review#RfC:_Should_the_non-free_review_template_be_added_to_articles.3F, I would assume that just like a consensus of editors not wanting non-free tags on article pages, editors would also support not having PUF tags on image captions of article pages because it detracts from the page. I honestly believe that it is an unnecessary step. -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 03:33, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for the thoughtful feedback. I posted here: Wikipedia talk:Possibly unfree files#Using Twinkle - Step III omitted.
Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:49, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

I believe that Niroshvthanaw (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) is another sock that's disrupting Sri Lankan school articles. Could you block user and semi-protect articles? Thanks.--obi2canibetalk contr 13:13, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure there's enough evidence yet. It's mostly about another albeit connected school. Consider waiting or seeing if you can gather more evidence and then filing at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Masu7. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:52, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for filing the account. I looked over his contribs again, found some very solid connections, and decided to block to prevent more disruption. Thanks for bringing this one into the light. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk)
And feel free to revert any edits you wish. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:04, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Your view

Hi Anna Could you please have a look at this. Flat Out let's discuss it 13:29, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Oh yes. I've been watching this one for the past couple of hours, and went through most of his edits. :) This may boomerang on him because I think I saw him making talk posts with other people's signatures. It's all quite bizarre. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:52, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
Another editor in the category I mentioned that I have seen a lot of since my return. Flat Out let's discuss it 13:55, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
And the boomerang wins the day. It's 1 am and I'm off to bed.Flat Out let's discuss it 14:09, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
A reasonable outcome. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:57, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of Reekrit Serai for deletion

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The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Reekrit Serai until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.

I haven't forgotten your script request.

I'm still working on it but got distracted by other projects, moving to a new apartment, Christmas, etc... Very soon (in a few weeks) I'll have it done. Happy editing! Technical 13 (talk) 01:45, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Ah, thank you. No hurry at all. Cheers, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:57, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

From OTBangalore

hey why you deleted my page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by OTBangalore (talkcontribs) 12:59, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Because it was a story. I explained at your talk page here: User talk:OTBangalore#Your user page. Again, please don't be offended, and please feel welcome here. I encourage you to help build the encyclopedia. If there is anything you ever need, just ask. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:05, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Template:Indian cuisine has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Frietjes (talk) 18:53, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Commented. Thank you for bringing it to my attention. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:29, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Happy New Year Anna Frodesiak!

Happy New Year!
Hello Anna Frodesiak:
Thanks for all of your contributions to improve the encyclopedia for Wikipedia's readers, and have a happy and enjoyable New Year! Cheers, Northamerica1000(talk) 05:02, 1 January 2014 (UTC)



Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year 2014}} to user talk pages with a friendly message.
Thank you very, very much. And thank you too for your extraordinary productiveness. I hope you have a wonderful year ahead. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:29, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the kind words, and again, have a great 2014! Northamerica1000(talk) 09:08, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Jianhui67 talkcontribs 09:45, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. Happy new year to you too!! :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:41, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Anna Frodesiak

A very happy new year to you too, and thank you. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 17:42, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Happy New Year 2014

Dear Anna,

Our vision for Wikipedia is one of beauty, natural symmetry and light.

I wish you a Happy New Year, everything good for your family, your loved ones and yourself, peace and joy for all the people of the world. I also wish a joyful and peaceful expansion for Wikipedia; may our encyclopedia make information and education available, without charge, to everyone in the world.
All the very best from Invertzoo (talk) 19:01, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

That's lovely! Thank you so much. Happy new year to you too. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:58, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The No Spam Barnstar
Thanks for removing Spammy stuff from Khammam article . The article needs more cleanup and I am going through it step by step . Pavithrans (talk) 13:06, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
You are too kind. Thank you very much. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:17, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

RE: Issue about your username.

No offense taken. I can kinda see how that would confuse some people. I did edit my signature to make it look less like the template. Hopefully that will ease concerns. Best wishes to you as well, Citation Needed | Talk 16:48, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

  • Citation Needed, I still think it is a little confusing, would you consider: [[User:Citation Needed|<span style="color:red"><span style="font-size:smaller">''User:''</span>Citation Needed</span>]] | [[User talk:Citation Needed|Talk]] which renders as User:Citation Needed | Talk Technical 13 (talk) 17:09, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) I really don't think this is necessary. wctaiwan (talk) 19:52, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
Wctaiwan: Do you mean the whole thing or Technical 13's suggestion?
All: I'm happy. Concerns erased. It's now very different from how it was before: [citation needed]
Citation Needed: Thanks for being so cool about it. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:32, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
I was referring to Technical 13's suggestion. I don't think the new signature is at all likely to be confused with the template. Sorry about the lack of clarity. wctaiwan (talk) 21:35, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

From Great Showman

can you block User talk:Hugh Van Moore — Preceding unsigned comment added by Great Showman (talkcontribs) 00:49, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Hugh Van Moore was blocked 16 December 2013. Are you referring to an account with a similar name? How do you know of Moore? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:24, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
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User:Courtney Abigail causing more problems?

User:23.243.80.13 who may or may not be User:Courtney Abigail has been causing problems over the last month. He/she has been inserting false data into climate boxes, inflating the snowfall amounts of various random places around the globe (see User talk:23.243.80.13 for my warnings). This false information has remained unreverted for weeks, because it seemed plausible. Quite embarrassing for WP.

I'm not asking for any specific action: this is just an FYI, so that we can have multiple eyes on the potential problem. Thanks for you attention. —hike395 (talk) 18:02, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I don't think it is her. The writing is too good to be Courtney Abigail (User talk:Anna Frodesiak/archive39#Blocking). Besides, she never wrote about weather. Anyway, it's odd. All of these false weather figures and then this, smack in the middle. I'll keep an eye on the contribs. Many thanks and best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:51, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) In article-space, it doesn't look like Courtney Abigail to me (despite this), but I can't see deleted contributions - maybe there's more evidence out there. I don't know who else 23.243.80.13 could be - there are no obvious matches in the history of List of buildings with 100 floors or more. bobrayner (talk) 22:43, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
I think Abigail did not have the IP address after November. And there are no deleted contribs. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:53, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Check this

Here's a new one, likely to become popular: List of desserts. Happy New year! Northamerica1000(talk) 09:23, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Another delicious article! It ought to get sweet page visits. Eclair winner! Piefect! Ummmm.....okay, I'm out. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:35, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for taking a look, and happy editing. Northamerica1000(talk) 09:51, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

article deleted

Hello, i was creating an article and it ws deleted about Richwealth De Host. Might i know why, because its not a fake article and advertisement

Regards Nana — Preceding unsigned comment added by Richwealthdehost (talkcontribs) 21:09, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

You created a fake article about yourself at your userpage. It was pure self-promotion. That is not what your userpage is for and not what Wikipedia is for. This is an encyclopedia. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:18, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Too many rules

After I restored the Template:Plainlist it became clearer you were only cleaning up after an earlier edit that had removed the template but left the list. Too many rules to keep track of them all, and even when you think you know them some small cabal goes and changes them. There should be more automated bots to help change things to newer better formatting (especially the difficult to understand semantic formatting like this that mostly benefits machine readers anyway). Always easier when a good editor follows the WP:SIMPLE rules and actually explains with an edit summary, it is a politeness I greatly appreciate. Thanks. -- 109.79.136.19 (talk) 02:36, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I just saw the bullets and removed them. I had no idea about the plainlist format. Perhaps a bot could go and switch all the film infobox "starring" entries to plainlist. You could inquire at Wikipedia:Bot requests. Thank you, my friend, and many happy edits. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:47, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Stop Intimidating People , Anna Frodesiak

Stop Intimidating People Anna Frodesiak.

These are Genuine Edits , based on our Positive Experiences.

You have NO RIGHT TO BE OFFENSIVE TOWARDS MALTESE PEOPLE !!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiTourists (talkcontribs) January 8, 2014

Intimidating people? Offensive to Maltese people? I like Maltese people. I just don't like the addition of maltadoctor.com to articles. Your company is for profit, and I think you added the links to promote your company to help you make money. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:04, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
Blocked! You wasted the nice welcome with spinning image :) Flat Out let's discuss it 00:07, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

If you would like to help Malta with genuine edits by expanding Malta#Healthcare or even starting an article about healthcare in Malta, without promoting your organization, we would consider unblocking you. How about that? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:33, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Anna, just letting you know that I've unblocked Broadbean TechnologyUS (talk · contribs) so they may request a change in username, per a request on UTRS. Regards, Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 01:02, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for letting me know. Found and welcomed. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:49, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Suggestion on Harbin Institute of Technology

I was editing the Wikipage of Harbin Institute of Technology for the benefit of Wikipedia readers, but not for any personal interest. I found the page controversy among editors/manager.

Clearly the controversies are in the main page as follows:

1. The description of "C9 League research university". This description is quite unclear. Of course the main page should be brief but Wiki also needs to present readers the most useful and direct information. What we are doing is for readers; but readers don't want to become more confused, or needlessly jump from one page to another.

2. The statement of "it is widely recognized as one of the top universities... in mainland China". It is true not only according to the academic evaluation but also to the internal positioning by the Ministry of Education of the Government of P.R.China. HIT gets the 2nd amount of grant every year and the Chinese student recognize it as top engineering university to attend. So as you know the ranks have their own evaluation criterions and ranks cannot say everything of an organization. That's why we need to consider about the locally public praise. Of course we didn't cover students in HK, Macau, or Taiwan but it's always better to avoid such matters because the real thing is well known.

For Wiki, copy editors contribute a lot but the knowledgeable informants also play an important role. There's no autocrat or sole authority here. Everyone should be respected as I respect your profession. We should stick to the principles and be flexible as well.

马兴毅&#124Halin&#124마흥의 (talk) 03:26, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

马兴毅, it's good that you finally responded to my request of discussion. However, there are still something that are debatable. See my talk page again and I'd like to have your opinion. Biomedicinal (contact) 06:09, 9 January 2014‎ (UTC)
So long as you're discussing things, I'll stay out of it. Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:23, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Contested deletion

Hi! This is concerning the Andy DiGelsomina speedy deletion, a talk page has been started. Why does a critically acclaimed composer get deleted from Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rockovageless (talkcontribs) 14:04, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

For the reasons explained here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andy DiGelsomina. Please read WP:42. Step one is gathering sources. If you can paste some good sources here after reading 42, please do, and we can reconsider. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:25, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

From Ronanin

That website http://pbtindia.com/ is not promotional material. Its about medical negligence In India. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronanin (talkcontribs) 08:47, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

You are right. I am sorry. I even used rollback thinking it was spam. When I see an addition that reads "...Please check out this website before traveling to India http://pbtindia.com/..." it just rings alarm bells. You must realize, though, that this is an encyclopedia, and writing that was is inappropriate for an encyclopedia. Better would be to incorporate the facts of the article into prose. Simply adding external links, or a "check this out" entry, is not really good for the article. Please read the links I gave you and consider writing instead of simply adding sites. Thank you, and again, sorry for thinking the addition was not an advertisement. Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:54, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
Okay, I see you have restored the edits, one now reading "...But there are cases of medical negligence in India. For more info please check out http://pbtindia.com/...". Please see how it is done in other articles. Maybe, maybe, maybe, that statement could be there without the "...For more info please check out.." with the url linked as a reference. But, it should really be incorporated into the article as prose, written in your own words, balanced, and well sourced.
The other edit is the addition of the website criticizing the medical system as the only external link. That will most likely be removed because it gives a lot of undue weight that way.
If you want your edits to remain, please try to read up a bit and see how other articles are presented. I think your latest additions will be removed by others. I don't want you to have your time wasted. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:18, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

A tag has been placed on File:Erich Priebke.jpg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section F7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a non-free file with a clearly invalid licensing tag; or it otherwise fails some part of the non-free content criteria. If you can find a valid tag that expresses why the file can be used under the fair use guidelines, please replace the current tag with that tag. If no such tag exists, please add the {{Non-free fair use}} tag, along with a brief explanation of why this constitutes fair use of the file. If the file has been deleted, you can re-upload it, but please ensure you place the correct tag on it.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Stefan2 (talk) 15:16, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Agreed and deleted (by me). For the archives: I think I copy pasted the owner name appearing in all caps and didn't notice the "/AP". I'm not sure. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:35, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

MrSingh316

I saw your post at [10]. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Garminder. I've just deleted some obvious copyvio from an article he created. Dougweller (talk) 15:38, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks you for opening that. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:31, 13 January 2014 (UTC)


A barnstar for you!

The Special Barnstar
In recognition for your hard work over the years :) I've seen you doing great work and helping out many people in various ways. Anna you are an Ideal and I look forward to learning many useful things from you in the times ahead. A very Happy New Year and Best Wishes! ~TheGeneralUser (talk) 23:57, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
Thank you so much! That's very kind of you to say. But about the learning from me part: I just seek guidance from others. You ought to too. I'm a bad example to follow. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:05, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
You might think so, but I don't :) I believe that we all should learn something new and different things from each other whenever we can. Cheers! ~TheGeneralUser (talk) 23:26, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Reg Image uploads

They are public images.so i have uploaded. rules are different in India when compared to usa. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronanin (talkcontribs) 03:49, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

I don't think so. Please see Copyright law of India and the external links. The images you uploaded are copyrighted unless stated otherwise at the source. I must nominated them for deletion. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:18, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Persistent vandal

User:Bancheepiper is persistently vandalizing, spamming and POV-pushing on the page Magnificat Meal Movement. Amongst other things, they keep adding links to www.caic.org.au at the most random places in the article, sometimes multiple times above each other, making various unsourced statements such as Magnificat Meal Movement using brain washing twchnics [sic], adding WE ARE A CULT in all caps mid-article, removing parts of the article, adding "Aka cult" at random points, inserting the word 'cult' midsentence, mid-word or adding it as a pre- or suffix to words. They have been reported to the AIV over an hour and a half ago. They have so far made no less than 21 vandalizing, spammy or otherwise unconstructive edits to the article. As of a few minutes ago, an IP-address has also jumped in. Couple of diffs to show what I mean: [1],[2],[3]. User has been warned by User:Dwpaul, User:Cluebot and User:AKS.9955. Some help would be very welcome. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 09:45, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Blocked. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:52, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
You're welcome. Thanks for blocking them. It was getting rather annoying. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 09:53, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
Happy to help. I'll keep an eye on the page. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:58, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Re: La Onda

Hi, Anna, Happy 2014! I was wondering if you could help me with something. User:Cjwillar has been working hard on La Onda, an article I created some time ago. Unfortunately, it looks like all of the images he added were recently deleted. Could you help me find out how and why they were deleted? From the page history, there appear to be four:

  1. File:Jornada--Avandaro Music Festival.jpg
  2. File:Los-jvenes-buscaron-que-obreros-comerciantes-y-dems-grupos-de-la-sociedad-civil-se-unieran-al-movimiento-nete-pueblo-fue-uno-de-los-lemas-ms-comunes-durante-las-manifestaciones.jpg
  3. File:27aug3.jpg
  4. File:Avandaro Music Festival.jpg

How do you go about tracking down the problem? Were they uploaded to Wikipedia or to Commons? Was there a deletion discussion? What's the best tool for an editor to use to answer these questions? Since the user was somewhat new, I have no dobut that there must have been an issue, but these are historical photographs and may be of some use. I'm also curious what license was used. Thanks, and no hurry on this. Viriditas (talk) 10:43, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Oh, it looks like the link to the Commons deletion log is coming up now when I click on them. For some reason, it did not show up before. How strange. I think the problem is solved. According to the summary, the user does not appear to have ever used a license, so they were deleted. I wonder if these images were ever free. If they were, it would be a great loss. I believe this solves the problem. Sorry to bother you. Viriditas (talk) 10:48, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
Ah, okay. Here are the log links anyhow:
Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:55, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

From Countess Caroline Jean Leitenmaier

Hello

I am trying to post in Wikipedia an article I wrote can you please help me

Help

help — Preceding unsigned comment added by Countess Caroline Jean Leitenmaier (talkcontribs) 11:33, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

You deleted my article

Can you please tell me what was wrong with my post here. It is about myself — Preceding unsigned comment added by Countess Caroline Jean Leitenmaier (talkcontribs) 11:36, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello, and welcome. I explained at your talk page why I deleted it.
While it is strongly discouraged, you may create an encyclopedia article about yourself or your organization. If you think the subject is notable, prepare it in your sandbox after reading WP:42 and Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:39, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Haikou New Port

Hey, long time no speak. I tried to move Port of Haikou back to Haikou New Port but the revert is ignored. Any ideas? Best, ► Philg88 ◄ talk 22:48, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Long time indeed. I commmented at User talk:Arrorro#Port of Haikou. Best wishes and happy Spring Festival. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:36, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
Buns

Check out this expansion at bun to read more about some nice buns. As always, feel free to improve the article, and happy editing. Northamerica1000(talk) 22:50, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

A very nice expansion. I'm not sure if I can improve it. It looks really good now. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:57, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for taking a look, and happy editing. Northamerica1000(talk) 05:28, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Andy DiGelsomina article

You asked about the relevance of the topic of the article "Andy DiGelsomina": well,

a) the guy has been employing some top names in the rock business since 2008 (see articles on Graham Bonnet, Mark Boals, Al Atkins, etc.), for two albums in fact.

b) The best known heavy metal writer in the world Martin Popoff called him a "great songwriter" and his music potentially the "next Led Zeppelin".

1) The archive where the Popoff Lyraka review is here: http://www.hardradio.com/hr3.html?http://www.hardradio.com/reviews/archives.php3

2) Easier access for the review: Popoff review

c) His debut album, Lyraka Volume 1 (see below), received both critical acclaim and CD sales(see Lyraka Volume 1, also there is a link to reviews on the first page of Lyraka.com).

d) here are just some of the dozens of interviews conducted with DiGelsomina over the years: Andy DiGelsomina Interviews

e) Just a few of his employees, for two albums straight:

Graham Bonnet

Al Atkins

Mark Boals

Robert Lowe

These are among many other entries involving DiGelsomina in Wikipedia. Not really sure what targeted the article for deletion, simply Google any of the above, or as mentioned follow the links in the original article. To put this up for speedy deletion just doesn't add up. Please check again the original article, it seemed to me it was mostly a problem with it looking like an advertisement, I can understand that because there are already too many Facebook-like articles here. I do know that the subject e-mailed me awhile back and said that a stalker tried to wipe out the content on the article within the last couple of months.

Perhaps you could better explain what prompted such a "speedy deletion", because the above seems quite notable. I could be wrong.

Rockovageless (talk) 17:11, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello Rockovageless,
Please re-read User talk:Anna Frodesiak/archive39#Contested deletion. What matters to Wikipedia is media coverage. Lots of coverage = article. Little media coverage = no article. That is the bottom line. Please read WP:42.
See also: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andy DiGelsomina
Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:50, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

You've got mail!

Hello, Anna Frodesiak. Please check your email; you've got mail!
Message added 23:05, 22 January 2014 (UTC). It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.

Go Phightins! 23:05, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Read and replied. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:37, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
And again. Go Phightins! 22:42, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

File:Ball-jointed doll - 01.jpg listed for deletion

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Ball-jointed doll - 01.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you.  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:02, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

I'll let the chips fall as they may. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:37, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Link rot award?

Hey, Anna. Do you know if we have an award for editors who fix links? User:Morphovariant,, who happens to be a new editor, is doing a fantastic job fixing link rot.[11] Unfortunately, I couldn't find an award to give him. If we don't have one, do you think you could put on your artist hat and doodle something for a barnstar or a badge? Just asking... Viriditas (talk) 08:04, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

FYI...here is a link to quite a number of badges and barnstars if you wanted to have a look see at what's already in use... Viriditas (talk) 08:10, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
Hi Viriditas. Hmmmmm, it's a good idea, but I have no clue what sort of image would be right. I'll think about that. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:57, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
No worries. Since it is about link rot, an image of a broken chain would work. There's a few on flickr I could upload. Viriditas (talk) 05:25, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
I'm so sorry. It's just that when someone suggests that I draw a specific thing, I almost always panic and can't do it. The only exception I can think of is Dr Blofeld. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:56, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
You don't think I don't know that already? :) Oh, and don't think I didn't notice how Dr. Blofeld got special treatment...I'm still simmering!  :) Viriditas (talk) 03:49, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
Well, Dr. Blofeld is an exception because he is a member of SPECTRE and has a device. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:01, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Khammam article

Hi , here is a small question on how to go forward with some cleanup on Talk:Khammam page , there is lot of information which is relavant to Khammam District geology but is put up in unstructured/unclear format and there is no source provided . I wish to cleanup the talk page for Khammam article related activities . I remember there was a policy on deletion of user comments in talk pages .Should I move the conetent to Khammam District talk page or just delete it ? Please advise .--Pavithrans (talk) 23:11, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Sorry to take so long to reply. The content at Talk:Khammam#GEOLOGY OF KHAMMAM looks like a copyright violation, but I can't find it on the Internet. Anyway, without a source, it can't be added to the article. So, sure, unless you can see how it has some value in improving the article, feel free to delete it. Thanks so much for your patience. Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:42, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
Its ok ,Thanks I have removed it. Some of the content was useful but without any source most of it can't be included in the other article so I had to drop it all together. --Pavithrans (talk) 00:55, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
Well done, my friend. Thank you for looking after that. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:01, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Your contribution is needed

Hello Anna Frodesiak/archive39, you are cordially invited to join the initiative Wikipedia:Deceased Wikipedians. We're a group of editors working to maintain and improve database of those editors who are no longer with us. All of these deceased Wikipedians have changed Wikipedia for the better in some way. Now, it is our turn to pay them tributes and obituaries.

If you know any Wikipedia editor, who is no longer with us, but their names are not included in our list still, please let us know. Visit the project page for more information. Thanks! Rudra john cena (talk) 20:55, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Rudra john cena (talk) 20:55, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:01, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Would you still be interested in this?

Hello Anna! It's been awhile. I haven't cone much on creating articles, for the most part it's because of a huge lack of sources at my desposal.

However, I was curious if you were still interested in creating this: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_species_that_possibly_went_extinct_in_the_16th_century&action=edit&redlink=1

I would only create this article by filling up the 16th century section of the extinct species list article to the point where it needs another article. Would you like to help? Please let me know. Cheers! Kirby (talk) 23:03, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi there. I think that the article may not be needed. Please re-read the bottom of User talk:Keeby101/Archive 1#Hello from Anna. I still feel the same way about it. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:50, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Help required regarding page creation

I have uploaded content for creating a page on wiki, but my content got deleted showing an error of Unambiguous advertising or promotion.

I have edited the content, please review and help/suggest us how best we can provide the common content on wiki.

Please find below edited content:

Name: Dr Niraj Vora DOB – 22-01-1969 Education: • M.B.B.S. from University of Bombay 1990 • M.S. (Orth.) from University of Bombay 1993 • M.R.C.S. from Royal College of Surgeons of Edinburgh 2004

Profession:

• Specialist in Total Replacement and Trauma Surgery

Associated Hospitals:

• Bellevue Multispecialty Hospital • S. L. Raheja Hospital • Asian Orthopaedic Institute

Specialism: • Hip Resurfacing • Joint Replacement Surgeries (Total Hip and Total Knee replacement) • Trauma Surgeries Notable prizes:

One of the top 5 joint replacement surgeons in Mumbai in 2011 and 2013 by Mumbai Top Docs, a survey conducted by the medical fraternity of the city.


Brief Introduction

Dr Niraj Vora is an Orthopaedic Surgeon in Mumbai, India, with broad understanding and approach in total replacement surgeries. He is Hip & Knee Surgeon & Consultant who has been extensively trained in the UK. Dr. Niraj Vora is an experienced Joint Replacement Surgeon and a gold medallist in Orthopaedics from the University of Mumbai. He is voted as one of the top 5 joint replacement surgeons in Mumbai in 2011 and 2013 by Mumbai Top Docs, a survey conducted by the medical fraternity of the city.


Qualifications • M.B.B.S. and M.S. (Orth.) from University of Bombay • M.R.C.S. from Royal College of Surgeons of Edinburgh Specialty Interest • Hip Resurfacing • Joint Replacement Surgeries (Total Hip and Total Knee replacement) • Trauma Surgeries Awards and Achievements • Received Dr. Anand Pardhy Prize & Dr. M. V. Sant Prize and Dr. Dipak Kothari Gold medal for securing first rank in M.S. Orthopaedics examinations of the University of Bombay (1992-93) Memberships • Life Member of Indian Orthopaedic Association, Indian Arthroplasty Association, Indian Society of Hip and Knee Surgeons and Bombay Orthopaedic Society • Member of SICOT and British Orthopaedic Association • International Affiliate Member of the American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons Experience: Apart from performing surgeries, Dr.Niraj Vora has served as Teacher, chief instructor, paper setter and examiner for many prestigious universities in India and abroad. He has been an invited faculty in UK for Essential Fracture Management Course.

He has successfully performed around 2000+ knee and hip replacement surgeries and 500+ trauma and other surgeries.

Medical Career

Dr Niraj Vora began his Orthopaedic career at the GMC, Bombay, from where he passed his MS (Orthopaedics) and was awarded the University Gold Medal at the Examination.

He then went to the UK for further training in Orthopaedics, and has spent 15 years in learning newer, better techniques in Trauma and Hip and Knee replacement, including the use of Computer Assisted Navigation, Hip Resurfacing and "High Flexion" Knee Replacement. He is Fellowship trained at the Robert Jones and Agnes Hunt Hospital, Oswestry, UK, which does the largest number of joint replacements a year in the UK.

Dr Niraj Vora provides his dedicated services as an orthopaedic surgeon at Bellevue Multispeciality Hospital in Mumbai and at S.L.Raheja Hospital.

Dr.Niraj Vora as orthopaedic surgeon and specialist in replacement surgeries has performed 2000 total knee surgeries and 500 total hip replacement surgeries along with trauma and general surgeries.

Other Interests: Dr Vora has a passion towards sailing as hobby. He has Competent Crew Certification from the Royal Yacht Association, UK and is keen sailor and certified SCUBA diver. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr Niraj Vora (talkcontribs) 11:32, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi. Sorry for the late reply. I have been on holiday, somewhat. The above content is not suitable for an article because the subject is not notable. See WP:42. That content is also not suitable for your userpage for the reasons I stated at User talk:Dr Niraj Vora. A few simple sentences about who you are would be okay for your userpage but please understand that your userpage is not there for self-promotion. This is an encyclopedia, not a web hosting service. Again, I encourage you to help build this encyclopedia.
I notice that you say "we". Is this a company account? Is it a group account used by others? Thank you, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:44, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Need Help

I have created an article An Astrologer's Day. It is one of the most notable short story of R. K. Narayan an Indian story writer. It was created few days ago. I have sourced it properly with reliable references. But some one has nominated it for deletion and the reason is "It is not a notable short story" instead it is given in the lead section that it is first short story of world famous collection of short story book called Malgudi Days. So, can you please review the article and give a conclusion in the AfD. Thank you. Rudra john cena (talk) 18:41, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

The result of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/An Astrologer's Day will almost certainly be "keep". I will leave it to someone else to close. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:48, 2 February 2014 (UTC)


  • Anna, can you tell me how can I become a autopatrolled user. I am creating back to back articles here, I have already created 3 article back to back in 2 days. This three articles are Remember The Roses, An Astrologer's Day and To India - My Native Land. I am going to create more articles in within the next few days. So, I want to transform into a auto patroller so that my articles could not get any deletion without any reasons. My status for creating new articles here are always good. I haven't created any article which violates any wikipedia policy, but mistakenly An Astrologer's Day was nominated for deletion without any reason and in AfD it is certain that it will be "keep". So, I want to transform can you help me. Thank you. Rudra john cena (talk) 14:35, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
Yes. You can post here: Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Autopatrolled. However, if and when you do, I will object because of the issues I raised here: User talk:Rudra john cena/Archive 1. Also, content in the articles you've written appear in a style very different that of your talk page posts. Franky, I am quite concerned that you may be adding copyrighted content. For the record, have you added any content that appears verbatim elsewhere in print? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:55, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
Oh no, Everything I have added is written by my brother he is a university student and he has helped me creating this articles every word that has been used in the article was constructed by my brother. Please don't think me illegal as my brother is creating this article and he is far more good in english than me.

Rudra john cena (talk) 15:02, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

If you don't believe me. Then alright I will stop creating any more article. But I swear my god I am not doing any Illegals. Rudra john cena (talk) 15:15, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
Do continue to create articles. Wikipedia needs that. But, please understand that my concerns are quite justified. In light of the fact that you've lied, added fake sources, and already added copyrighted content, I think it is best that you are not autopatrolled right now. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 15:38, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I deed it earlier but this time I haven't did it. Please believe me. Rudra john cena (talk) 15:57, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
In this three articles I have give the most appropriate and reliable sources, you can see. So please belief me. Rudra john cena (talk) 16:01, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
Okay. I just really hope the content isn't from library books. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 16:04, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
Do you think that summarys of a Indian rural story can be found in any library. And I don't think that the writtings are upto the standard that a library book would have. Moreover some one told me to copy edit the article. Rudra john cena (talk) 16:34, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
Fair enough. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 16:52, 2 February 2014 (UTC)