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Finding sources

I would like to use up the other favour from the facekini pic, not to mention the creamy custard bun pic: Could you please find some sources for Fieseler Fi 6? 11:39, 5 October 2015‎ Eat me, I'm an azuki

I'm afraid I could find nothing other than this. I added some boxes to the article, though. :) I still owe you one. Oh, and I'll get to work on the custard bun article soon. Sorry. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:29, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
To avoid the obbsessive-compulsive speed in which you make talkpage archives, have you found out an answer on "Gummleeph"?—Eat me, I'm an azuki (talk · contribs · email) 00:46, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
Not yet. I will let you know as soon as I know. At the moment, things are a bit chaotic. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:29, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
For being decent and assuming good faith. Even in cases like this one where your assumption was disappointed, it's so important that we remain open to it. Far too easy to become cynical in our world, and something most of us seem to struggle against! Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:42, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:57, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for protecting the page, you do no i wasn't warring don't you that was the others i just want to make that clear. :) 04:31, 6 October 2015‎ Lukejordan02

You are welcome. I know you weren't warring. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:53, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

An anaphrodisiac for you!

An anaphrodisiac for you!
Have a lovely sprig of flowers, for being an awesome Wikipedian and an awesome admin.

Just enjoy its beauty, no need to take internally. :-) -- Softlavender (talk) 06:44, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you so much, my friend. :) Interesting fact: If you add equal parts of an aphrodisiac and an anaphrodisiac to your tea and then wait ten minutes, you will feel exactly the same as before. Fact! :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:22, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
If Anna Frodesiak takes an aphrodisiac and an anaphrodisiac .... God I wish I was brilliant enough to finish that sentence.... Softlavender (talk) 07:30, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
@Softlavender:Then she will act just like Anna Frodesiak without aphrodisiacs or anaphrodesiacs.—Eat me, I'm an azuki (talk · contribs · email) 12:28, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you

Anna, thank you for this: [1]. Your kindness is appreciated. If we can't find a way to keep a skilled coder like this one, it's a real loss to the project. Cheers. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 07:16, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

You are one of many who appreaciate his skills. I am happy to help in any way that will see him happy to be here and benefitting the project. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:22, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
I won't defend the over-the-top rhetoric, but I will defend the person when other editors treat SPI and ANI like a playground fight for settling scores. There was plenty of blame to go around. I don't know whether he intends to return to editing or not, but the Wikipedia community really has to find better ways to make use of skilled contributors without eating our own (or becoming even more dysfunctional than we already in terms of civility and collaboration). 'Night. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 07:33, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
Indeed! Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:45, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Out of the Shoebox

Thank you. I wrote it again. Hope it is good this time. The photo I used last time was taken by me and used by the author. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vikitom (talk • contribs) 06:41, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

I mistakenly moved the page to Out of the Shoebox: An Autobiographic Mystery before it was deleted (but actually the parenthesis are part of the official title). So the article is still present. Sorry for the mistake!! --Ita140188 (talk) 06:53, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
No worries, Ita140188. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:56, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
Vikitom, I have replied at your talk page. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:56, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank. I wrote it again. No copy past. It is my writing only. Viki — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vikitom (talk • contribs) 07:46, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Sorry but you are wrong. Goodreads only publishes reviews on thousands of books, many of them exist on Wikipedia. They got the cover photo from me and the text (reviews) from many readers. Their copyrights cover their logo and format that have nothing to do with what I wrote. Why you are doing that...? Viki — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vikitom (talk • contribs) 08:11, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Special Barnstar
Your [Wikipedia] guidelines and tips are very useful to me. Thanks alot ! Chenthil Vel Murugan 1986 (talk) 20:21, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
Thank you!! :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:28, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for helping

Hi Anna Frodesiak,

Thanks for trust my user page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chenthil Vel Murugan 1986 (talk • contribs) 20:26, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

List of melon dishes

Xi gua lao

Hi A.F. – Know of any other Chinese dishes/foods that use melon as a primary ingredient? North America1000 00:19, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

I didn't even know there were melon dishes, period. And no, the only such dish would be an actual plate of melon after dinner. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:46, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
Well, at least you now know that melon dishes exist...🍉 😎 North America1000 12:27, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
But do they know we exist? These are the deep questions of cuisine. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 19:58, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
("Cuisine", from the Latin Cui = "question" + Swedish Sine = "to see", so "Is the question seen?", deep, deep culinary philosophy.) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:04, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
Erm, I'm not sure about your etymology above...😃 North America1000 22:12, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
My etymology is bang on!
("Etymology", from the Old Germanic ety = "ate" + Swahili "mology" = "melony", so "Ate something melon-like.")
("Bang", from the Native American bong = "to inhale", so "Definitely inhale")
Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:02, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
 The Magic 8-Ball says: Hmmmm.... North America1000 19:57, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
I see you've found a collection of teeny pictures or emoticons or whatever they're called. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:56, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Emoticons. 🎃 North America1000 21:05, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
Wow. I never knew about that page. Can you help me make "1, friend"? I can't figure out how. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:11, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
What do you have in mind? What image are you looking to use? For example, check out {{Oldsmiley|friend}}, which creates . North America1000 01:22, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
Yes! Perfect! Thank you!!!Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:23, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
There you have it then. North America1000 04:08, 12 October 2015 (UTC)


A bowl of strawberries for you!

I will always love you and your contributions. Fructosia (talk) 15:26, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. Okay, I give up. Who are you? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 15:28, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

I need my page back

I was new to this wikipedia i need my page back. Please help me undo the deletion of my page. Name of the page was Swaroop E (swaroopjesus). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Swaroopjesus (talk • contribs) 17:03, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi Swaroopjesus, and welcome. To remind you: You started your userpage which consisted of an infobox with photo and personal info. Below there were 4 links to your social media sites. You then moved it to article space to become an article about yourself and made no other edits. What are your intentions here at Wikipedia. Do you wish to have your profile at your userpage and nothing more? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:36, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi,

Anna; Hope you are absolutely fine. I need some help from you. Please give me you email if you can. User:Anna Velli 2 (talk) 13:12, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi User:Anna Velli 2. You can email me. There is a link to click at the side of this page. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:33, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Can you give me your Gmail id??? I want to mail you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anna Velli 2 (talk • contribs) 15:08, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

It is best if you email me first. Thank you for your understanding. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 15:10, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

but how can i mail you??? I have not your email id??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anna Velli 2 (talk • contribs) 15:19, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Please search "Email this user" at this page. I think it was not visible before. I have not confirmed it. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 15:26, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Help!

Hi Anna! Hope you will be fine! I need your help! I want to remove protection from semi- protected page from Kalash people please unprotect this page... (Μαρινα Χαλαβαζή Talk)

Hello Μαρινα Χαλαβαζή, and welcome. Because you are a brand new user, I suggest that you ask at the article talk page: Talk:Kalash people. Tell them what change you would like. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 16:36, 13 October 2015 (UTC)


Aneez CECO

Did you ever start an SPI on Aneez CECO (talk · contribs)? It appears he's back again (as Sebastian cipolat (talk · contribs)). WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:17, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. Blocked. No need for an SPI in my view because not much to investigate. I usually file if it is not garden variety. Also, why burden the SPI system. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:11, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
Given the extent of the problem, I think an SPI would allow for visibility. As it stands, you appear to be fighting this issue on your own. With an established SPI, other admins could be alerted to the issue, and users like me could have a place to report new pop-up users. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:13, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
It is getting rather boring isn't it? (just having noticed 'CECO' is back!) Maybe we should bombard their many social media pages with requests to stop? They seem to have an "Aneez Ahmed CECO" page on every on-line platform available. [2] Just a few: [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9]. [10], [11]. [12] 220 of Borg 17:19, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
Dear oh dear. And for what? It's all a hoax anyhow. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:52, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
Indeed. I have just dropped young Mr. Aneez a link to WP:Guidance for younger editors. 220 of Borg 03:06, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
Is it a kid? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:30, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
If we can believe the pictures. Somewhere IIRC says they are 15yo. Of course, it could be a dog. 220 of Borg 05:27, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi WikiDan61 (and pinging 220 of Borg). I see your point. However, it is not much of a "fight". The thing is, after encountering such a spam page, we usually do a search to see if there are more. You want the SPI to come up in that search so others get clued in, right? But the search will also find a string of blocked accounts. Clicking one of those will link to the master's page. Everyone is clued in.
So, because this guy isn't devious, but rather just spamming, why not do what is working: regular searches. But, if you wish to file, fine. But why burden SPI with one more case? No CUs needed. No investigating patterns of behaviour requiring diffs, etc. I don't see the point. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:50, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, I've been doing that. Surprised when he came up again! Maybe we need an edit filter? 220 of Borg 03:06, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
I track lots of these cases using an off-Wikipedia notepad. My guess is that he'll persist for a while and give up. They usually do. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:14, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
Samwalton9 made an edit filter for one persistent case. It detected. I blocked. Then, Sam changed it to prevent pages created with keywords. That was the end of that. :) So yes, if it persists, let's consider and edit filter. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:25, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

The OTRS red tape

Hello Anna, your project prompted me to try and see whether I could gather some pictures for articles by asking the luminaries themselves, so I started with one who is currently the rage among my friends. Their article has been viewed 3785 times in the last 90 days. (While that is below the threshold you set for your initiative, the purpose of that threshold was to give the artist an incentive by showing them that their portraits will be seen by many people.) You certainly will agree that there is considerable benefit for Wikipedia in adding a picture to such an article.

I firmly believe we should respect everybody who freely contributes to Wikipedia. In addition, there is the old proverb "beggars can't be choosers", which encourages to be even more considerate when I cold call someone to get something for free that we can't otherwise afford.

So my expectations were:

  • A smooth process on the Wikipedia side of this business. I thought that there would be some organizational experience available here how to do this in an efficient way that respects the luminary's time and willingness to help out;
  • Some rough edges and disappointments on the luminary's side. They might not answer, or answer too late (after the picture has already been deleted), or some such problems.

To my utter surprise, the experience proved the opposite. The luminary was very kind and open, while I an inordinate amount of problems reared their ugly face on the part of Wikipedia, costing me far more time than I had budgeted for this, and threatening to cost the luminary even more time and legal trouble. Obviously, Wikipedia does not have an appropriate process in place. It is a bait-and-switch tactic to first only ask the questions, only to later come with additional questions that we knew we would have to ask all along. Such a process is inefficient and disrespectful of the people who we are begging from.

I am tempted to get engaged in improving this process. But I already overspent my time budget on this. I'm now in a place where both pushing forward and backpaddling will take time, and I have other more urgent and important things to do. I will prescribe myself a Wikbreak for at least 48 hours now. I may look at this over the weekend, but don't hold your breath for it. I just felt I had to tell you this, because I know you care about this.

All the best, — Sebastian 20:42, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi Sebastian. I am so pleased you take the time to write to them. It is worth it. And I'm sorry to hear that you had some bad experiences this end. Maybe a process is needed that doesn't bite anyone.
Search "Dear" here. I've used that dozens of times with a really good return ratio. They either send the pics to me, or I tell them how to do it. My latest attempt failed, though. I so wanted badly needed pics of Koko (gorilla) and All Ball from The Gorilla Foundation. My email changed and it cut off communications. I dare not email again...but I might. Maybe fair use? Anyhow, here is a handful of articles that had no image until emails prompted someone on their end to kindly act:
Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:17, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
(Talk page watcher) I can't believe that Bagel head is a thing. Why, just why? North America1000 05:32, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
Um, because Bundt cake head was too considered too extreme. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:27, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

move protection level

hi anna, The Yo Yo Honey Singh is currently Semi-protected please set protection level of page to Pending changes protected (level 1). Thankyou.

I see someone else has handled it. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:27, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Simpleabd

Hey, just wondering if you remembered the other socks this guy used. I was going to tag them all for if/when he decides to create another account. Recently he made a new account (sigh) to try to appeal his block. It's blocked and tagged, but I figure that it'd be handy to have them all labeled. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 09:50, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Tokyogirl79. Yes, one of those cases where we didn't quite keep track. I'm just doing someone thing offwiki and will dig up what I can soon. Sorry about not making a list earlier. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:15, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) NeilN has blocked a lot of these socks; he might know about any strays. clpo13(talk) 16:07, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Every account I remembered and checked already has a tag. --NeilN talk to me 16:15, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
@Tokyogirl79, NeilN, and Clpo13: I only found Trymankind. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:42, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
By the way, this fellow has broken all records for unblock requests. I think there are even more in his talk history. I appealed to him asking him to stop. I got him mixed up with a similar case I've been involved with: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Najaf ali bhayo. If I didn't get him mixed up, I wouldn't have appealed to him because he's very IDHT. However,it may be working for now because he's requesting unblocks rather than socking at articles. The lesser of two undesired things. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:42, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
That suggests that Simpleabd may not be the oldest account. It was created about 12 hours after Trymankind was blocked, and that account was blocked following socking by Idkmankind123. I wonder if he's had problems at his native language Wikipedia. I don't understand why else he would insist on editing here. clpo13(talk) 23:49, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
clpo13, earlier account. --NeilN talk to me 15:01, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Latest incarnation? [13] Any opinion? --NeilN talk to me 22:58, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi NeilN. Almost certainly per evidence we all probably see but should not mention here. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:49, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

FYI: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Humanidk --NeilN talk to me 14:51, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for filing, NeilN. That's quite a list. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 15:45, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Ankur Mazumder

You are invited to (yet again) join the discussion at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Ankur Mazumder. Thanks. Gparyani (talk) 21:57, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

I'm watching. Not sure what we are supposed to do or say. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:26, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Um...respond to the SPI, just like you and User:JohnCD have done before? Gparyani (talk) 23:38, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Respond, yes, but saying what? And why even file the IP at the SPI? What outcome do you want? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:53, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
That someone look into it, close the case, and (if needed) take action against it? Gparyani (talk) 01:19, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
It's certainly him again, but this attempt is not enough to justify a long block on the IP, and given his usual habits a short block would have no effect. I'm afraid we'll just have to go on playing whack-a-mole. I've marked the SPI accordingly. JohnCD (talk) 09:42, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Template:Spam-warn

Could you please make it a redirect to Template:Db-spam-notice, per the "merge" consensus established at the TfD discussion, and downgrade its protection to semi, per the instructions at WP:TFD/AI, which state that if one of the pages in a merge becomes a redirect, its protection level should be matched with that of the target? Gparyani (talk) 23:41, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Sorry to take so long. I just have to read up a little bit to be sure I'm doing it right. I'll get to it soon unless someone else does it first. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:14, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
Just downgrade the protection to semi, and I'll take care of the redirect. Gparyani (talk) 15:42, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
Please be patient. I am sorry to make you wait. I like to be sure I am getting things right, and there is no hurry at Wikipedia. I'm just reading the discussion here. Did you initiate it and close it? Also, the last time I checked, it was closed and shorter. Now it is closed again and there has been more discussion. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:51, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
You were probably looking at a relist. If you notice, the shorter version has an older log date and an outcome of "relisted". And yes, I did WP:IAR and WP:BOLD on that one since the outcome was relatively unambiguous, and it's usually bad practice to relist more than three times. Gparyani (talk) 02:03, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Original discussion, first relist, second relist, and final relist. Gparyani (talk) 16:43, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
UPDATE: It looks like Alakzi has done it with Special:Diff/686681686. I've thanked them for the edit. But the page still needs to be downgraded to semi-protection, per the aforementioned instructions. Gparyani (talk) 03:08, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) @Gparyani: I was just cleaning up some other TfD stuff so I went ahead and semi'd both the redirect and the target, which looks like the protection level used for related notices. Just FYI, there was general agreement here that it's best to avoid closing your own nominations even at TfD. Most discussions are closed fairly late, but if there's a good reason a particular one should jump the queue you can post at WT:TFD to ask people to take a look. Opabinia regalis (talk) 22:41, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Gparyani, sorry I didn't handle it. I was out of town yesterday too. Also, whenever I see a discussion rather than just a list of "Merge", "Merge", "Merge", I usually rule out uncontroversial" and want to dig a bit more.
  • Alakzi, thank you for the action.
  • Opabinia regalis, thank you for handling the protection.

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:34, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

In this particular case, the discussion you saw was wholly irrelevant: it was about a persistent issue with an editor being unwilling to acknowledge that notification of the template creators is a rule. Right? Gparyani (talk) 12:11, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
Okay. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:41, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
Oh, and I boldly modified your pings up there to link to the user page, not the article, as you may have mistakenly linked to. I usually use {{subst:u|USERNAME}} to generate such links. Gparyani (talk) 13:24, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
Thanks so much. I've been a bit distracted with some off-wikipedia issues here. Sorry again for not being completely here. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:27, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

From Lemondropzzz

The evidence for genetic studies has already been discussed on that page. Please refer to those paragraphs. Please stop vandalizing that page to deny Palestinians their ethnic identity and history. It is racist and offensive. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lemondropzzz (talk • contribs) 23:13, 21 October 2015 (UTC)


Stranded Deep Deletion

Hello, Just wondering why you deleted the previous page for the Stranded Deep Video Game, as I am about to try to create it, so i can try to avoid that mistake in the future.

D Brickman25 (talk) 02:46, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi D Brickman25. I see nothing matching the word "stranded" in a search of my admin actions between March 2015 and now. Was it before then? Are you sure it was me? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:03, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) @D Brickman25: Can you please provide a link to the page involved? Gparyani (talk) 03:54, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
I see it. I deleted Stranded Deep as a copy paste from here on 09:17, 8 October 2013. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:57, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

Your support for Supdiop

Thanks for the kind support you gave to Supdiop after his vandalism and gross comments, that you used to give me before i got blocked. Cosmic  Emperor 

PS- Anna Frodesiak is an administrator, she can handle her talk page. Let her revert my comment with edit summary "block evasion". You talk page watchers don't poke your nose here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.39.39.170 (talk) 16:37, 25 October 2015 (UTC)


Red links

Hi there, Ms. Frodesiak. I understand you sent me a message that says you were wondering why I have been removing red links. I have been removing red links because they are pointless because if someone were to click a word with a red link, it would directly lead to a page with no article, and I find that really pointless. So there's really no use in why red links should appear in an article at all. Cheers. Meluvswiki (talk). 2:59 PM, October 26, 2015.

(talk page stalker) @Meluvswiki: Per WP:REDDEAL: In general, a red link should be allowed to remain in an article if it links to a term that could plausibly sustain an article, but for which there is no existing candidate article, or article section, under any name. Please see that page for more info. Gparyani (talk) 19:13, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi, Meluvswiki. Gparayni is right. Please do not remove redlinks like that. Also, I wrote to you nearly 3 weeks ago about this. Instead of responding right away, you carried on with a further 250 edits, many of which were removing redlinks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:28, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Walton (company)#Merge discussion

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Walton (company)#Merge discussion. Thanks. Worldbruce (talk) 06:29, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know, Worldbruce. I best not join in. I have been dealing with socking at those pages, so should stay uninvolved in other matters. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:39, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

5 millionth article

Hey Anna! I started a table over at WP:RDMA§5 millionth article§§Daily growth rate table that I will keep updated based on my daily observations at 20:42 UTC (and I'll ask Steve not to archive that page until we roll over), but I will be traveling tomorrow and may not be able to make that observation.

Wherever in the world you are, is that a time of day you could make the observation tomorrow (Wednesday)?

You probably know more ways to do this than I do, but one option would be to just check Special:Statistics at that time tomorrow, and then copy the article count here. Another would be to edit this section and check the preview (to overcome any server caching) of

{{NUMBEROFARTICLES}} articles @ {{CURRENTDATE}}
6,818,439 articles @ 14:55, Monday, April 29, 2024 (UTC)

at the right time and copy the results. And finally, you could subst those templates

{{subst:NUMBEROFARTICLES}} articles @ {{subst:CURRENTDATE}}
4,996,371 articles @ 13:52, Tuesday, October 27, 2015 (UTC)

and save your edit at the right time. -- ToE 13:52, 27 October 2015 (UTC)


I've changed my travel plans and should be available at the magical 20:42 (UTC) hour tomorrow, and hopefully until we roll over.

Also, I really thought that your Saturday, 31 November 18:01 UTC bet was a good one when you made it yesterday, what with the 624 & 635 article-per-day rates from the weekend being followed by Monday's 707, but I'm surprised by today's 613. I doubt that we are seeing any activity related to the rollover yet, though I do assume that a good handful of Wikipedian's have written and polished some articles which they will try to submit as the time draws neigh in an attempt to land article number 5,000,000, but I suspect that we won't start seeing them until shortly before the rollover happens, and that we will jump from just under 5,000,000 to over 5,000,100 or more in only a minute's time. -- ToE 02:14, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Very interesting! Thank you for making the table. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:55, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) @Thinking of England: One thing I'm afraid of is that we'll reach 5,000,000, but then an article could get deleted, making it 4,999,999. I just saw the counter go down now, so just letting you know. Gparyani (talk) 23:06, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
It would go back up over 5 million in about a nanosecond. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:00, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
If the 5 millionth article is defined as the one which was created when there are 4,999,999 articles already in place, then with your scenario there could be multiple such articles. The significant one could be considered either the first one which rolled us over to 5 million or the last one which rolled us over and kept us there. Wikipedia:Millionth article FAQ#Is Jordanhill railway station really the millionth title ever written in Wikipedia? goes with the former definition: This was the first article to be created at a time when there were already 999,999 articles in the encyclopedia.
What I'd be more concerned about is if the first, and perhaps only, 5 millionth article is crap and is subsequently deleted. We'd still be over 5 million articles, but no existing article would hold the honor of taking us around that bend. Wikipedia:Millionth article FAQ doesn't address that, and its list seems to imply that such a deletion has not happened for the last four n-millionth articles.
If a last minute burst of quality articles really are submitted, as I anticipated above, then that is less likely to be a problem, but it is equally possible that Jeph Jacques and David Willis have a stable of auto-confirmed socks ready to turn out hundreds of articles on a variation of Butts disease when the rollover becomes eminent. -- ToE 01:56, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

I know about Special:NewPagesFeed, but do you know how to find out what the article count was when any particular article was created. In other words, is there a Special page we can view to determine which the 5,000,000th article is, or will that be reported by the system operators using internal tools? For instance, I can run a script logging the article count once a second and see that it just went from 4997479 to 4997480 at 01:28:46 UTC, and then see Samuel Gomes da Silva on the New Page Feed showing that it was created at the same time, so that makes it a 4,997,480th article (though in this case not the first 4,997,480th article, as there had been a deletion only thirty-some seconds earlier), but is there a way to tell this without that level of monitoring? And even with that monitoring, it could be messy to sort out manually if there is a rush of near-simultaneous article creations & deletions. -- ToE 02:05, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

@Thinking of England: I don't know of any such thing. The only reason I'm afraid is that there is a backlog of articles waiting to be deleted at Category:Candidates for speedy deletion and sometimes there is a long delay between my tagging articles for deletion (as a new-page patroller) and their being deleted, such as Ricky Singleton. If you would like for there to be such a feature, I suggest you head to the Phabricator. Gparyani (talk) 02:13, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

We should probably create something like [14] for Wikipedia articles: created vs. deleted vs. migrated from other WMF wikis. Gparyani (talk) 03:35, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Interesting. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:41, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Did you know about Wikipedia:Five-millionth topic pool?

Anyhow, we should lock down the servers around that time and forcibly make Wikipedia's five-millionth article Wikipedia's five-millionth article. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:41, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Want to do so? Just delete the main page! Or better yet, delete a page with 4,999 revisions. Gparyani (talk) 05:03, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

And the 5 millionth article is...is...is...??? 220 of Borg 13:07, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

A shrubbery? Persoonia terminalis. 220 of Borg 13:25, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
Impossible! I know all shrubs species and this one doesn't exist. This is a hoax article!!!! In fact, I have all shrub species growing on my windowsill right now and none are Persoonia terminalis. This is typical Casliber‎. First he makes an article about this legendary thing called a Faberge Egg. Nonsense! A jewelled egg? Right! Then some tower in London with a clock on it. Obviously made up. An now he's editing an article about some iron tower in the middle of Paris! So obviously fake. I would have noticed it. Photoshopped pics and everything. And lots of people working on that article. Conspiracy I say! That's it! I'm shutting down this encyclopedia. Zero credibility. A shrub! Pshaw! Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:52, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
"An unknown shrub"
File:Shrubs.PNG
"This post will end in schrublets"

Howaboutthisone? North America1000 14:03, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

That's no shurub. It is an early concept invention to electricly re-charge future transportable hand-held tele-voice machines. Obviously! Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:02, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
That said, which one? ha ha. Sorry for peppering your page with shrubbish. North America1000 14:07, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
That's fine. I just shrubbed it off. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:13, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
That said, what's all the hubbub, bub? Is it about shrub(s)? Tee hee. 😀 North America1000 14:34, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
Anyway, all of that said, check out List of strawberry dishes I created today. Strawberries aren't shrubs, but they're tasty! 🍓 North America1000 14:40, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
Another peach! Well, sort of. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:55, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Stag12man

Anna, when the archive link doesn't appear, just purge the page. That should work. If it doesn't, you can contact someone on the SPI team. You shouldn't have to add a blank line. Regards.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:37, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Ah. I just posted at your talk in protesteth. Okay. I will thrieth that. (I'm spitting all over the place.) :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:42, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
Off-topic, but why are you typing...weirdly? Gparyani (talk) 16:33, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
[15]. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 18:18, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

User talk:Rajeshbieee

Anna, I'd left you a ping there but in case you didn't notice or it didn't come through, I'd like your opinion on the situation. This is now getting beyond just standard copyvios as File:Uththaraunnie.png shows -- it goes beyond just claiming own work, it's manipulation of the original image to an extent that reverse image search will not work, I was fortunate to find the original in this case (there were a few others where either Stefan2 or I found the sources too). He doesn't seem to accept the fact that this and others are copyvios and still claiming credit for them. I'd usually block for this level of disruption, but I'd like a second opinion because of the extent of content contribution over the years. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 17:42, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @SpacemanSpiff: Perhaps a topic ban against uploading images would fit the bill here? Gparyani (talk) 20:47, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
You are very, very kind, SpacemanSpiff. The (unapologetic) block evasion and carrying on doing exactly what the first block was for really pushes toward the indef line. Now, standing firm with obviously fishy and changing stories? The urge to block is there, but maybe we should go preventative and think of the project first by simply prohibiting uploads, period. Put our foot down. I think he thinks we're bargaining and doesn't see the gravity. Then we do a decent text copyvio (I did a cursory one a few days ago and it came up clean.). Another advantage of not blocking is that he remains near, but we could watchlist where necessary and keep our eyes open. If you still wish to block, that would not be unreasonable, though. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:22, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
So is a topic ban a good idea? Gparyani (talk) 02:33, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
I don't know if you'd call it a topic ban. Best defined by what it is, a ban on the uploading of images. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:02, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
I agree on the text stuff, I had checked for copyvios there, but didn't find any; there could be translation copyvios (as a lot of sourcing is from Malayalam language resources) but I think it's a low probability. On a different note, could you please take a look at User talk:Aryan hindustan#User page -- a child editor who has been uploading self-images on Commons and placing them here and could use some guidance. There's nothing yet that I'd revdelete or send to oversight (the images are on Commons, and there's a deletion request there), but the possibility of getting to that stage is likely and someone better equipped to deal with children than I am should provide some sort of guidance. —SpacemanSpiff 04:20, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi, SpacemanSpiff. Hmmmm tricky. Most likely the images are of the user. But, the photos do not actually say it is him. The user could be the father taking a pic of his kid. Is there evidence I'm missing? So, if the pics at commons showing the boy are deleted, fine. If not, the pics become a commons problem and we could consider deleting (possibly suppressing) his userpage and restoring a version with no boy images. Am I on the right track in my thinking here? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:30, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
I didn't think of this earlier and connected the dots only after being alerted to the pictures -- the language used is definitely at a pre-teen level. The MySpacey stuff didn't show up earlier and it's sort of gradual progression so I'm guessing he's experimenting with stuff and getting more "comfortable" with all this and we're likely to get to some stage where he's adding oversight worthy material (these images are likely to be deleted on Commons, so it's not an immediate problem). I think some sort of a "don't do this" stuff would help, but I can't seem to find any category or whatever for editors willing to deal with this kind of stuff. Seems to be a kid who is interested in contributing and appears willing to take feedback (see the responses to talk page warnings and notifications), so someone who has the ability and patience to provide such guidance would be helpful (do this, don't do that kind of stuff). cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 04:45, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
I agree the behaviour indicates a youth. Anyhow talk here and at his talk lets cat out of the bag about the pics. And, there's nothing to suppress. So, I'll just have a chat with him. I think that's what you're after anyhow. Cheers, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:49, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
Given the outcome of the discussion, I'd suggest you post on WP:AN to let other admins know to delete his images and block him if he does so. If he continues, you may be able to take it to WP:LTA. Gparyani (talk) 01:34, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

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I will not reply. Please keep this on-Wikipedia. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:02, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

List stuff

Check out List of regional dishes of the United States, with the image first and then the name. I rather like this format. North America1000 08:55, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

I like it too! :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:18, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
That's actually quite a nice list. --  Kethrus |talk to me  21:21, 31 October 2015 (UTC) (talk page stalker)
It's a peach! Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:31, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Halloween cheer!

Happy Halloween!

Hello Anna Frodesiak:
Thanks for all of your contributions to improve Wikipedia, and have a happy and enjoyable Halloween!
    – North America1000 23:41, 31 October 2015 (UTC)


Send Halloween cheer by adding {{subst:Happy Halloween}} to user talk pages with a friendly message.
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Thank you! Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:20, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Question

I note that you wisely pulled out of your good faith attempt to discuss socking with JTV over this. But, did you read all of what preceded and followed it? What a mess. I knew in my gut he had to be a sock of someone, but I never dreamed it would be that extensive and go back so far. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 01:25, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

What a can of worms. I did not and will not read that, my friend. That is a huge mess and a tragedy for Wikipedia. The sheer hours in keystrokes and reads must be in the hundreds of hours. Had that gone to building the encyclopedia it would have meant so, so much good content. Why are some people so destructive and hurtful. Can't they see what they're doing? Terrible, and sad. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:47, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
You are, indeed, a kind person, Anna. Better than most I've met in Wikipedia, for certain. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 03:52, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
You are too kind, WV. This place is filled with wonderful people, with a few exceptions. Sort of like the opposite of Wall Street. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:06, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Remember not, Lord, our offences, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:25, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

I don't do vague, so what's your point here, Gerda Arendt? -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 17:58, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
I wrote that article as a translation because I like the title and love the music. Similarly, I started another one today (after singing the piece in a service): Beati, recently mentioned on my talk, "Beati quorum via integra est", - my free translation: blessed are they who walk in integrity, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:29, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation, Gerda Arendt. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 15:34, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
Beati was mentioned in the context of Fauré's Cantique, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:59, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

5 Million: We celebrate your contribution

We couldn't have done it without you
Well, maybe. Eventually. But the encyclopedia would not be as good.

Celebrate. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:09, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:01, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Halloween III: Season of the Witch

Hi Anna how are you?, I think Halloween III: Season of the Witch, could be done with being protected as there a load of vandalism going on mostly from IPs. Thanks. Lukejordan02 (talk) 16:10, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

I suspect it is just a Halloween thing and is not too severe. We could just watch and hope it gets back to normal, which is ought to. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:55, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

IP disruptively editing Tanki Online, then creates and account and vandalises my user and talk pages

Hey Anna, I just had to revert an edit on Tanki Online by an IP which appears to be Vandalism only. The IP had only one edit but tried to change the page to the United States presidential gangrape or something like that. I reverted it as a result, and i gave it a final warning, despite the fact he has made one edit, because of the way he vandalised this page. Should i have given this type of warning? As you are an Admin, can you please look into this and take action if necessary? And as i type this, he/she goes and reverts my edit.. Here is a link to the edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tanki_Online&oldid=688901200

Many thanks Class455fan1 (talk) 20:09, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

It turns out that this IP made an account called "Help me edit" and vandalised both my user page and talk page and put personal attacks on both pages, and even though Bishonen had warned him. i feel he/she might do it again. Please help!! Class455fan1 (talk) 20:25, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

  • I took care of it, Anna. I thought at first this was a schoolfriend of Class455fan1 playing games (you know how common that is, I'm sure), so I warned, but apparently it was a bit worse. Blocked and semi'd. Bishonen | talk 20:53, 3 November 2015 (UTC).
I just saw your post here, Bishonen, while I was protecting it. I saw vandalism from various IPs going back to Oct 24 approx. I protected for a month. Maybe a bit long. Two weeks may have been better. Please feel free to modify or remove the protection. Many thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:06, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
Oh, you protected the article for a month? That's good, because I didn't think that far; I meant I've protected Class455fan1's pages. Good teamwork. :-) Bishonen | talk 21:11, 3 November 2015 (UTC).
The userpage issue post above happened while I was protecting the page, I think. I just woke up and am a little foggy. Oh, well. All's well that ends well with accidental teamwork. Thank you kindly. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:17, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks both of you for you for all your help and protecting these pages from further vandalism/personal attacks Class455fan1 (talk) 22:27, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Happy to help, Class455fan1. And thank you for bringing this to our attention. Keep up the good work. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:01, 3 November 2015 (UTC)


Picture upload Comment

Can you change the picture in this page Ram Aur Shyam. There are better pictures on net as this ? And this could be album cover. The copyright rules and picture upload process in Wikipedia is confusing. --Galaxy Kid (talk) 10:50, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Galaxy Kid. I posted at Talk:Ram Aur Shyam#Updated poster. If nobody objects, in particular the uploader of the current image, then I or you can do it. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:13, 4 November 2015 (UTC)


Profile

all the information on the page was an accurate profile of Mr Vineet Singh Hukmani and nothing was ambiguous or a promotion. it was factual Kindly re-instate the same — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vineet Singh Hukmani (talk • contribs) 07:00, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Vineet Singh Hukmani. I will not restore it. Please do not recreate it in that form. It was indeed promotional:
  • "...as he brought innovative shifts to the ..."
  • "...He was the prime driver of the..."
  • "...HIs strengths are in strategic business management..."
  • "...He was instrumental in making..."
  • "...He was also instrumental in securing..."
  • "...He was pioneer architect of the..."
  • "...He has had valuable experience with..."
Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:19, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

re written with factual links

the article has been re written with brief statements and links as proof. please publish the new version — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vineet Singh Hukmani (talk • contribs) 07:20, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi Vineet Singh Hukmani. I replied at your talk page. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:37, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
I don't think he's getting the message regarding his user page. APK whisper in my ear 07:58, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
Patience, my friend. :) I will do my best to explain things to him. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:17, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
Good luck! :-) APK whisper in my ear 08:18, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
Thank you, but I'm sure he just needs someone to explain the purpose of a userpage and the difference between it and an article. He's not harming the project, and he might even be notable. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:19, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Hello from Kirby!

Hello Anna, it's been a couple of years. You probably don't recognize me due to my username, but originally I was known as Keeby101 (I changed that username for a reason lol). Anyway, I just came by to say that I thank you for helping me in the past with my rhetoric and overall way of making contributions on Wikipedia. I later down the line took your advice to the fullest extent and gained major ground in this community. For that I thank you! You were and still are one of the nicest users I have come across on this site.

With that said, hopefully our paths will cross again. Come to my talk page and see what's new as you are welcome anytime! Cheers! Kirby (talk) 13:37, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi User:Keeby101. Thank you for the kind words. Happy to see you back. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:50, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
You're welcome Anna! However, I am only back for a short period of time as I am going to be on an indefinite break from Wikipedia, if you visit my talk page or even my user page you will see why. You could probably weigh in on it even, but it is something that would get your attention. Regardless, great to hear from you too! Regards. Kirby (talk) 23:09, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
I scanned the text. It was long and there are so many such texts about how Wikipedia is a hostile place, etc. I don't find it hostile. Maybe it's just me. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:12, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
Well, you are an Admin so you probably don't see the other side of the spectrum per se. So with that said. I'm glad you considered taking a look at my situation as of current. Regards. Kirby (talk) 00:10, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
You may be right. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:27, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
It is most likely the case with Administrators. You see, from the other side of the spectrum it's rather a different case and what happens on the other side does not have to necessarily happen to me, but with others around here.

Yes, I did have a lot of screw ups and had a few bumps on the road early on as a Wikipedia editor. I later got help from Administrators and Bureaucrat's on here such as you and ·addshore· (who is a Bureaucrat on here) and who helped me become a good Wikipedia editor and allowed me to contribute to this site properly later down the line. :)

However unlike you, ·addshore· and others on this site who tried and still try to help me and others new to Wikipedia, some administrators like Fut.Perf. and Wikipedia editors with heavy nationalist bias when it comes to ancient empires (From Mesopotamia, Persia, India, China, etc) or even ones that are just plain stubborn such as the ones I have come across in the Paleontology section of Wikipedia (Mostly with the Dinosaurs and Megafuana) , they rather try to work with new editors around here or even some that have been around here for a long time such as SimpsonDG, they are openly hostile and have tried and still to an extent try to shut them down.


I have seen this happen with many users on here, I can't mention their usernames because I forgot them (hard to keep track of them all) and these stubborn and hostile editors when it comes to shutting down new ideas or contributions (may they be small or major) have been successful in many cases.

In the case of SimpsonDG case, he has dealt with users and admins such as Fut.Perf. in the past and even got into an argument with Future Perfect and explained his reason for why he left:

User_talk:Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise/Archive_28#Don.27t_leave_Rude_comments_on_my_page.

With that being said, I have dealt with the same hostility in the past and to some extent in the present, which is why I am leaving. You and the others that I honorably mentioned within the last topic of my talk page are saints in my eyes. :)

So once again, I thank you and everyone who had helped me become a better Wikipedia editor! However, as I said in my last segment of my talk page, until the community becomes less hostile will I be returning. Farewell. Kirby (talk) 04:08, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

Hello Anna

I did create that image by myself and can send image form game like Space Engine, Celestia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GlenStevens12 (talk • contribs) 15:36, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Hello GlenStevens12, and welcome to Wikipedia! I will reply at your talk page. Let's keep the disucssion there. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:29, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Need Help!

Hey Anna I need your help again. Basically, if you haven't seen my user page, i am a bus enthusiast (a person who likes buses). Recently on Talk:List of bus routes in London, someone started a debate on this source(http://www.lots.org.uk) that has been on List of bus routes in London since 2009, claiming that the source is "copyright". I explained to the user that it only covers publications by the company, and if they didn't want us to look at the "News" page, they'd restrict it to members only. Now, you may not understand this part (i'll try and explain as best as i can), but news was published on the "news" area of the web site that the people who run London Buses, Transport for London. had awarded some route contracts to different operators. As i am a member of WikiProject Buses I like to keep the article up to date, and put under the route that the route will change operators in July 2016, for example, but another person said that it is "industry gossip" and he also said that "recentism" is not needed on this page. Other users have also done what I've done and put under the route that it will change operator, but it keeps getting reverted by this person. From my point of view, I consider the source as reliable, because the same thing is announced on Bus Blogs and Forums, and everything that is mentioned on this website actually happens, and i think that someone who works for London Buses puts the info on the news page I have tried to explain my point on the talk page for this page, but what can i do now. Can you please decide if this source is reliable or not, and put the discussion to bed? And if the source was copyright, wouldn't it have been taken out by a bot? I think this needs your intervention, because otherwise, if a route changes operator, and its confirmed, then it will continually be reverted, because the person I'm talking about calls this source "industry gossip", when i don't think he knows as much as i do about buses.

Please help

Many Thanks

Class455fan1 (talk) 13:33, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

Hey again Anna, I just wanted to tell you about this. Just recently. I edited London Buses route 78, and it got reverted by the person who is one of the people discussing this matter on the talk page for being unsourced, which was fair enough because i did forget to add a source, but i left him a warning to tell him that next time, he could just find a source and add it which is co-operating, rather than reverting. i had to add the source. He reverted the warning on the page, called my warning "tendentious" and threatened to take me to the Admins if i left him another warning on the edit summary. The user I'm talking about can be found in my contributions. Sorry I'm leaving so many messages on your page, but because you are a kind and helpful person, whenever i have a problem on WP (be it in General, or with another user), i come to you, because as you are an admin, you can give me advice on things, but i wanted to let you know of this. Should i email you in future in case of any issues

Many thanks

Class455fan1 (talk) 18:38, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi Class455fan1. Sorry I did not reply earlier. For some reasons I did not see any notification.
You raise a lot of issues, so my response in point form::
  • I cannot visit http://www.lots.org.uk/. It is blocked here in China. If it is a blog, that is the reason.
  • You are discussing things at the article talk, and at least two others are there engaging you. That is good. My role at my talk page here should be to advise you on policy and guidelines. I cannot takes sides. If there is unfairness or disruption at the article talk, I can take a look.
  • Please read WP:RS.
  • Complete lists of factual data are generally not considered copyrighted. See WP:TOP100 for further information.
  • I am not clear on your meaning here: "...only covers publications by the company..."
  • Matters about "industry gossip" and "recentism" are content disputes. That should be discussed at the article talk.
  • Blogs and forums are not reliable sources.
  • To find out what sources are reliable, you can post at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard
  • I don't think bots remove copyvio content. They can spot it, though, but maybe not lists. I am not sure about that. I think they generally look for blocks of text that appear at other sites, regardless of the copyright status at that site.
  • Please avoid remarks like "...appears to be here to revert stuff..." as that can be seen as offensive or an attack. Try to talk about an editor's edits, not the editor personally.
  • Regarding "tendentious", please read Wikipedia:Tendentious editing.
  • Please, no email, unless it is a very important private matter.
  • The bottom line: Listen to the community. When two people disagree, it is sometimes hard to know who is right. When a handful disagree with a single person, they are likely right. And if most people agree on one point of view, consider that WP:ROUGH CONSENSUS.
  • Be patient, as you are being, which is great.
I'll be watching the relevant talk pages. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:08, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
Aside, see List of buses. I started that ages ago. You might want to watchlist that too. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:11, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
Thank you very much, didn't mean to personally attack the editor in question. will change that. LOTS is not a blog. I don't know why its blocked in China. It stands for "London Omnibus Traction Society" The meaning of "only covers publications by the company" Is because LOTS write books too, and make a magazine for members only, and they do not allow people to re-sale it online. I also recently submitted a request to become a rollbacker yesterday, quite surprised nothings been done in 24 hours. Many thanks for your help! Class455fan1 (talk) 00:22, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
Don't worry about the attack. It was relatively tiny. You are a patient, civil, and measured editor. That is much respected around here.
Why is LOTS blocked? Because the powers that be here act in strange ways. Recipe sites are often blocked, but not 4chan. Things get blocked then unblocked. It is hard to explain.
Remember that writing that is not in list form is copyrighted unless stated otherwise. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:31, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
Sorry, i didn't get the last point you made about writing that is not in list form. I looked at WP:RS, and as far as i see, and looking at the source again, it is a reliable source. If it wasn't, it would've been removed years ago by other editors. Could you tell the other two editors on the talk page discussion that Complete lists of factual data is not considered copyright on the talk page, because i won't be able to explain it that well to them! Thanks Class455fan1 (talk) 00:46, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
Hi Class455fan1. I meant that text or creative writing is copyrighted. We cannot copy paste it. However, a list may be something we can copy paste. Again, see WP:TOP100.
You may be confusing "reliable source" with "copyvighted". Please see WP:RS and WP:COPYVIO.
I suggest you post at the talk page with WP:TOP100. Ask others to evaluate the list and see if it is copyrighted. They may say it is not, and can be copy pasted, but still object to the list being in the article for other reasons. Those reasons may include "industry gossip", "recentism", or the source not being reliable. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:00, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
 Done Thank you for your advice, and if i ever need help, i know where to come :) Class455fan1 (talk) 01:32, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
You are most welcome. I'm happy to help. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:54, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Gomti Chakra

Hi Anna, I tried to give an answer at your request on Talk:Gomti Chakra. Hope this helps. All the best. JoJan (talk) 14:07, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you so much, JoJan. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:09, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Special Barnstar
For helping me in times of need on the site, and giving me brilliant advice, which i will take on board. Thank you very much Anna and you deserve this barnstar. 😃 Class455fan1 (talk) 00:30, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
Thank you very, very much!! :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:31, 8 November 2015 (UTC)


I'm a Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here! (UK series 15)- Needs semi-protection due to addition of unsourced content by IP's

Hey Anna

The following page: (I'm a Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here! (UK series 15)) needs semi-protection because the lineup for this show hasn't been confirmed officially yet by the TV company ITV, who makes the programme and IP's are continually adding unconfirmed Celebrities without providing any source. Can you please semi-protect this until the show starts on Sunday at 21:00 British time? (Don't know what time that is in China, but i think we are 8 hours behind you) I decided to come to you instead of submitting an protection request otherwise it would've been fully protected so that only admins can edit it, like what happened when i submitted a semi-protection request for Emirates fleet. That ended up being fully protected, even though i requested semi due to IP's also adding unsourced content to that page. Many Thanks Class455fan1 (talk) 16:59, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Hello Class455fan1. The action I took: "...protected I'm a Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here! (UK series 15) [Edit=Allow only autoconfirmed users] (expires 22:00, 15 November 2015) (Persistent addition of unsourced or poorly sourced content)..." I hope that is okay. I think UTC is the same as England, although I'm horrible with figuring out time. I set it to 1 hr after the show begins. That way there can be no mistake about who was on it. Let me know if I have the time wrong.
Don't be nervous about filing at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. They evaluate it the same as I do. They probably protected the airline due to a huge editing dispute where it was hard to figure out who is right. In those cases, admins don't want to pick sides. they just revert to the last stable version, and freeze it in place until those involved can come to an agreement. In the celebrity article, is was a garden-variety case of IPs adding unsourced content.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:26, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
Everything is fine with that, thanks so much! Yesterday, i had to give someone a final warning in this page for persistent addition of unsourced content. Thanks again for your help! Class455fan1 (talk) 07:33, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Arbitration Committee

Hi, Anna,
Have you ever considered running for ArbCom? I think you would have a lot of support. Check out Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2015 and see if it seems appealing to you! Well, think about it. Liz Read! Talk! 00:45, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi Liz. :) I was pinged and replied at Dennis' talk. Thank you kindly, though. :) Oh, and by the way, I am so bad at making such judgements, that, at your RfA, I changed my mind at least twice (and ended up opposing, which I am sorry about). In fact, that was the last time I !voted at RfA, and it was then that I decided to stop participating at RfA. I am just not qualified to evaluate candidates properly. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:59, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
Well, I think it's important to have an open mind and not hold too rigidly to a point of view in face of evidence indicating another conclusion.
And I really didn't want what editors said during my RfA to influence my behavior as an admin so I haven't read every comment or talk page remark in the RfA or the 'Crat chat....maybe when I have a little more distance, I will. Liz Read! Talk! 01:12, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
Very reasonable. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:04, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Greetings!

Hi Anna, just a quick hello as we haven't crossed paths for some time. Hope you're well. Flat Out (talk) 04:00, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Hello Flat Out. It has been a long time indeed. I am very well thank you. I hope you are the same. Nice to hear from you. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:04, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Happy Diwali

Happy Diwali!!!

Sky full of fireworks,
 Mouth full of sweets,
 Home full of lamps,
 And festival full of sweet memories...

Wishing You a Very Happy and Prosperous Diwali.
 §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:41, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Send Diwali wishings by adding {{subst:Happy Diwali}} to people's talk pages with a friendly message.
Thank you! Happy Diwali to you too. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:04, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Optional RfA candidate poll/Archive 1

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Optional RfA candidate poll/Archive 1, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Optional RfA candidate poll/Archive 1 and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Optional RfA candidate poll/Archive 1 during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Supdiop (T🔹C) 09:09, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Question

Hi, Anna. Quick question for you: I generally edit from one of two IPs here, one from home and the other from mobile. My long term home provider shutdown on the sixth of November. I'm curious, what if those IPs are assigned in the near future to someone who vandalizes or socks? I don't want to be accused of anything. I had used those IPs for a long time until last week. Thanks for any insight. Viriditas (talk) 17:20, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Viriditas, I wouldn't concern myself with this too much. If your provider changed, there would be a hard date where your home IP changed. Generally a CheckUser isn't run on IPs just for garden variety vandalism, the IP is just blocked. If socking occurred, it may show you as having edited from that IP address, and if it came up in an SPI, you would have a pretty easy time explaining that (as you did here). Having said that, I think the chances of it being assigned to someone who is going to sock prior to the CheckUser data going stale is pretty slim. --kelapstick(bainuu) 19:46, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for explaining. I think I was on that IP for eight years, so I was slightly concerned as it would be very easy to track me. Viriditas (talk) 20:39, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
Thank you from me too, kelapstick. I will start to study the whole thing. It is about time I learned. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:04, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Elion Resources Group - new copyvio?

Hello Anna Frodesiak, you speedied this article as copyvio, but an SPA re-created it. While a copyvio check with the new version didn't find a match, I am not convinced this isn't just another copyvio (otherwise the creator wrote and formatted the complete article in 20 minutes, according to edit history). I am not sure if this is a speedy or should better go through another formal AfD, but you probably know a little more background details of this article. Could you have a second look at the situation please? Even if it's not a copyvio, it's blatant self-promotion based on self-published information. Best regards. GermanJoe (talk) 15:13, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi GermanJoe. Thanks for letting me know. The account is okay. I softblocked the last one, so his new one is fine. The content was the same copyvio, so I let him know about that here. Cheers. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:19, 12 November 2015 (UTC)


SineBot

Your bot reverted an edit on a talk page: [16]. I guess this is not the expected behavior? Martinkunev (talk) 12:23, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

A thousand pardons and my humblest apologies, Martinkunev and Phoenix7777. I have no idea how I did that. Please forgive me. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:31, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

RfA poll

Hi, Anna: to be honest, I'm not yet convinced that the focus on a bare number is a good idea. It seems to encourage a more superficial look at a candidate's qualities, potentially setting them up for a disappointment when actually going through the request for adminship process. That being said, I like seeing new things being tried. I think we should do more of this: try something low-cost, and if it doesn't work out, we can try something else. (Unfortunately, the system already seems to have failed to deter one problematic candidate, but maybe it will draw in some hopeful candidates in the near future.) isaacl (talk) 03:37, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

You may be right, isaacl. A change may be needed. You mention Supdiop, but he does not fit the normal pattern. Also, we cannot tell if this is preventing SNOWs. Long-term stats may reveal this and other effects, like putting the idea into the heads of those who would otherwise not have considered adminship. Also, some of those who have already participated may be using the feedback to prepare for a future RfA. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:47, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
Supdiop has other problems, not just his/her frequent attempts at RfAs that will never pass. I still firmly believe that users with the right level of maturity will have gotten over any cognitive dissonance and should be able to do some accurate self analysis after reading WP:RFAADVICE. The graph we compiled several months ago showed that SNOWS/NOTNOW have decreased in the exact same proportions as RfA overall and successful passes - meaning that the the three descending lines on the chart have been almost exactly parallel for several years. So nonsense attempts at RfA are not strictly an issue needing a lot of focus, while the waning interest in adminship in general is the greater problem. If you want to get candidates of the right calibre to apply, you need to potty train the voters. And it looks as if 2015 will close with the lowst nimber of promotions ever. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:03, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
I agree the utility of the RfA poll remains to be seen; it may serve to encourage good candidates to run. I also agree at this point, deterring easy non-starter candidacies is not a problem; I only raised it as the flip side of encouraging good candidates. Due to the problems with trying to use consensus decision-making in a large group, a different process for granting administrative privileges would be more effective, but for better or worse, at present there is no appetite amongst those who discuss the matter to move away from the current straw poll process. isaacl (talk) 14:29, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
I generally find these sorts of things unhelpful, as the review that an RfA candidate goes through will not be as thorough, and since there is no consequence in someone getting a passing grade if you will, the piling on of opposes based on trivial, or minor issues just doesn't happen. So someone who may be a sub-par candidate will go in RfA thinking they can walk on water, but quickly sink. There was a WP:VETTING process a while back that I thought had some promise, where one or two people would go through some candidates and grade them/make improvement suggestions. It never really gained any traction however. I think that is a more useful exercise than straight up pre-voting. --kelapstick(bainuu) 15:42, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
You may be right, kelapstick. But unhelpful all told? Please help to fill in the blanks here. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:15, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
Not sure I will have the time. The next five nights will be on two different planes and three different hotels. I will have a look in Jakarta if I get the chance. --kelapstick(on the run) 00:33, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
No worries. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:43, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
Also I am doing this in my free time. And eagerly awaiting your nomination. :) --kelapstick(on the run) 00:48, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

I apologize for being unclear in my initial post; I forgot to link to your ping on the poll's talk page and to say that the primary purpose for my reply here was to explain why I'm not planning to evaluate any participants in the poll (in addition to the usual time constraint problem). I didn't mean to start a discussion on the talk page regarding the pros and cons of the poll, which is why I posted to your talk page. I appreciate your openness to reviewing your own initiative, though; English Wikipedia would run more smoothly if more people were the same way! isaacl (talk) 00:45, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Miscommunication

Regarding this, I didn't mean to direct the comment at you. Poor indentation on my behalf. :/ I was referring to Alakzi's behavior on Supdiop's page. FWIW, I think you were right in trying to steer Supdiop away from self-destructive behavior, even if he or she didn't listen. clpo13(talk) 23:30, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

You should have directed that at me my friend. It would have been appropriate. If I want to steer someone, I must tell them why. I didn't. For all he knew, it was because I cared only about Wikipedia. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:38, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

your block of Neal E. Boyd SUCKS!

There are several more socks of this user listed at Wikipedia:Usernames for administrator attention. I put them up as attack names since I didn't notice the socking when I listed the first one. Meters (talk) 06:03, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Meters. I think what you did was fine. What else could you have done? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:51, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
Put them up at WP:SPI, but that's a much slower process. Meters (talk) 06:55, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
Hi Meters. Listing them at Wikipedia:Usernames for administrator attention was the right thing to do. The names needed blocking right away. You could have started an SPI (or searched for an existing one), but to what avail? Not much needs investigating. Plus, there's WP:DENY to consider. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:05, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
Thanks Meters (talk) 07:06, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
Actually, thank you! You filed at Wikipedia:Usernames for administrator attention, and that was much appreciated. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:08, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Arb??

Arbcom: The Slogan(TM)
Young 'Tharks: The Slogan(R)

Hi Anna: I'm very much hoping you'll run. I want there to be enough reform-minded candidates - people who want it to be less of a law court and who want as many "cases" as possible to be resolved before they become cases - that we can take advantage of the community's desire for reform and get the thing actually changed, which would also reduce the workload on the successful candidates. I'd like to be able to vote for you as one of those candidates, and so would many others. Please run. Yngvadottir (talk) 01:40, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

That would be awesome. --NeilN talk to me 01:44, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi Yngvadottir and NeilN. Thank you. You are both very kind. I really do not think I'm the right person for the job. I will, however, do a bunch of reading and learn more about how it all works. Maybe next time around would be better. You know how I hate to rush into things. It took years for me to finally agree to the admin thing. All my best, and thank you again. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:48, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

I have to add my "please run" to the previous. You are absolutely one of the most level-headed and compassionate admins I've run across in Wikipedia. Having you at ArbCom would be a definite plus for the community. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 01:50, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Thank you, WV. Like I said, I would need time to consider all of this. If Arbcom recruiting ever needs an official slogan, it may be best to avoid "Please Run". :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:57, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Only with enough candidates do we get the chance to choose the best. We deserve the best. With too few candidates we may not get the ArbCom we need. We will always get the one we deserve. I would like to see you press the "Throw own hat into ring" button. There are worse things you could do Fiddle Faddle 16:18, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Mister Faddle, please, that is not a slogan, that is pure propaganda. Allow me to elucidate:
I'm still fine-tuning the slogan for that last one, actually. Ummm... yeah. But isn't a virtual train-wreck more fun, when you can get other wikipedians to leap on the train with you, as it is leaving the station? Think of it as a bonding experience, team-building for the greater harmonious interaction of wikipedians broadly construed. Hey... maybe THAT is the arbcom slogan... "Misery loves company, so run for arb-ship today!"  :-)     And on that note: please run, I seventh the motion. 75.108.94.227 (talk) 20:30, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
I saw that edit. Crawlspace! Grumble grumble. p.s. If you *were* gonna run, you would probably edit the page about arbcom attire, right? 75.108.94.227 (talk) 21:24, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Thank you, HJ Mitchell. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:19, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Oh and for crying out loud call me Harry! There's no need for the formality. :) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 21:23, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Harry. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:44, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
I would support you too if you ran for ArbCom! Class455fan1 (talk) 21:22, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:44, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Section formatting at Talk:Kim_Jong-un#Rfc:_Use_of_non-free_image

Hello. At the above RfC I've gone through and done some section management per typical RfCs (and like the last one we had on this issue at that page). I placed your support for a non-free image under the Snow Rise section, but I'm unsure if this tracks with your intent or not. Please feel free to modify your support if you feel the need. Thanks, --Hammersoft (talk) 19:41, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

It looks fine, Hammersoft. Thanks for laying it out. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:37, 17 November 2015 (UTC)


What links are you referring to?

You indicated you thought some links were commercial. I disagree, but please describe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BillyC840 (talk • contribs) 22:12, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

I will reply at your talk page. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:55, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

I do not believe you have the right to edit MY user page, especially when I have posted links to article I have written or books I have published. Let's kick this up to arbitration, please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BillyC840 (talk • contribs) 23:13, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi BillyC840. I do have the right, and responsibility. I am an administrator. You have just restored the promotional links for a third time. This time, I have deleted your userpage. I would like to add that you have referred to yourself as "we". What group does this account represent? How many people use this account? If you wish to "kick this up" to arbitration, the next stop is Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. I would suggest not wasting their time. Plus, you may experience WP:BOOMERANG. My advice is for you to stop posting promo links and start contributing constructively to Wikipedia. That would be best for all. Thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:20, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

These are links to article I HAVE WRITTEN

..they are hardly promotional. I disagree with the edits and think your attitude reflects a certain racism. I will follow up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BillyC840 (talk • contribs) 23:23, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi BillyC840. I think you mean bigotry rather than racism. Anyhow, again, please read WP:UPYES and WP:UPNOT. I encourage you to then help build the encyclopedia. Thank you, and happy editing. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:39, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Food

Central European cabbage rolls

Have some cabbage. North America1000 23:48, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

A work of art! Very nice! Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:50, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Moscow Symphony Orchestra - logo - 01.jpg

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From 95.141.31.8

I am a sockpuppet. I am a male chauvinist . I hate female administrators. Block meeeee. --04:48, 22 November 2015‎ 95.141.31.8

For the record: Blocked by Spacemanspiff. This is the Mission Hills talk page IP. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:53, 22 November 2015 (UTC)


A kitten for you!

I simply have to compliment you for your warmness and amicability (like this soft warm kitten), I certainly enjoy seeing you around and there need to be more people like us around here. It's unfortunate that Supdiop is no longer here but I certainly enjoyed the time he gave for the meanwhile and hope they return when better. Cheers as always!

SwisterTwister talk 19:25, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you so much, SwisterTwister. :) I also hope Supdiop returns when better. And I hope that he has the maturity and wisdom to not be here now, socking. Of course that would be a disaster for him. He would become persona non grata forever. All he needs to do is get some distance from the Big W for a few months and enjoy a different hobby. Then, I am sure we would welcome him back, and failure could be turned to success. He is in control and can make the best choice. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:12, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
To be honest, I would've been more than open to mentoring him (I certainly know of areas he could've worked with) especially if I had known that's how the story was going happen but c'est la vie. I'm very sensitive to noticing drama and tension here and I've talked with other users offwiki about this and I have certainly been walled by events like Supdop. I think I found the best thing, and several around here will agree, that it helps to stay away and return when you have a better mindset.
I myself occupy myself with fun other things such as chess, media entertainment, nature and puzzles. I myself, along with other users I've noticed, was a different user within the last ten years and my own perspectives have changed since then (I've noticed how many articles including fabricated jokes that should've been deleted long ago, somehow stayed with nobody noticing them earlier). Cheers as always! SwisterTwister talk 20:47, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
BTW you may want to unfortunately remove IP 166.173.248.249's talk page abilities. Cheers, SwisterTwister talk 21:01, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
It would have been really great if you'd have mentored him. He did have lots of offers to help, however, but seemed bent on doing things his way. Yes, c'est la vie. Maybe he is reading this and will take up some of the hobbies you like. (Thanks for the 166.173.248.249 note. I'll look after that.) Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:08, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open!

Hi,
You appear to be eligible to vote in the current Arbitration Committee election. The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to enact binding solutions for disputes between editors, primarily related to serious behavioural issues that the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the ability to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate, you are welcome to review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. For the Election committee, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:59, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

A Barnstar For You!

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
For going out of your way to help user Aryan Hindustan and guiding him when not needing to! Thank you for your work to Wikipedia! FiendYT (talk) 15:13, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
Thank you! Anna Frodesiak (talk) 18:22, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

And another

The Guidance Barnstar
For this and similar acts of kindness I have seen you perform through the last few years. You're a fine editor, Anna Frodesiak. I wish I shared your boundless faith in humanity. -Thibbs (talk) 18:43, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
Thank you!! I hope I'm not seen as a busybody. I just felt that reminding him of a better way may set him on a path of happier editing. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 19:08, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Block plz

Psst... can you take care of this user? (link). EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 20:51, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 20:53, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Happy to help. Thank you for catching it so quickly. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:57, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Got Any Tips?

I'm thinking of applying for Pending Changes reviewer. I already applied once about 2-3 months ago, and the administrator told me to go try when I'm a little more experienced. I think I'm pretty experienced right now, when telling vandalism and such... although I still don't put that many edit summaries. Any tips you have for me? (PS - This is FiendYT. I am just using my alternative account.) StarSweeper (talk) 21:29, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

Other than what is stated here, maybe. But first, if you have a link to your first request, that would be helpful. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:13, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) @FiendYT:, while vandalism is a common reason for implementing pending-changes, it’s only one of several. A music group’s article might be on PC because of genre-warring, or a BLP because of undue gossip—check the page logs to see what kind of problems you should be looking for. Your request will have the best chance of success if you can demonstrate some content judgement as well as vandalism-recognition. A record of reverting good-faith but poor edits with helpful explanations (either in edit summaries or on user talk) would certainly be an asset.—Odysseus1479 02:24, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
Well said, Odysseus. Thank you, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:43, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
This is the link to my first request for pending changes, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=689034498. FiendYT (talk) 04:28, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
Hi FiendYT. Consider what Odysseus said and maybe wait longer. It has only been around 3 weeks. Best. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:43, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
PC isn't all that common of a protection method anyway. I cann probably count on one hand the number of times I have reviewed something...--kelapstick(on the run) <
I thought it was just me. Yes, I seldom encounter the need. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 18:22, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
Yes, each of your review-counts is still on the first hand, so to speak. I’ve only done a few dozen myself; I’ve rarely, if ever, gone looking for edits to review, but about half a percent of the articles on my watchlist are under PC and fairly prominent, generating a trickle of alerts. (Noticing that pending edits on my watchlist would sometimes remain unreviewed for a while was what prompted me to request the right in the first place.)—Odysseus1479 21:24, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

New Liquor portal

Hey AF: Check out the new Liquor portal I created today. Pitch in to improve it if you'd like. Cheers, North America1000 12:27, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

Holy moly! It is lovely! I will drop by. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 18:22, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Deletion of Gajpanth

Sorry, I was not knowing about violates any copyright rule. I am really sorry, I have just been near a week here at Wikipedia BOTFIGHTER BOTFIGHTER (talk) 11:53, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

That is quite alright, BOTFIGHTER. I hope you are not upset. I am sorry I had to delete it. Let me know if you need help. Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:57, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
Thank you, I am not upset I will recreate the page and write in my own words. BOTFIGHTER (talk) 12:04, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
Excellent. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:18, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
Hi, I have again formed a article Gajpanth. It may seem I have copied and pasted a bit information but this is to inform you that I have copied the location of that place and the name of the three caves( I think so this is okay of name of the 3 caves copying and the location too). I have only copied the exact location of gajpanth in Nashik. Is this okay? Or you would delete it?BOTFIGHTER (talk) 13:28, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
BOTFIGHTER, I am not completely clear about what you are saying. I see others have edited the article since you last created it. There seems to be no copy pasting now. It think the article is fine. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:44, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

more galleries.........

Waratah and Cissa (genus) could do with nice galleries...Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:58, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Done. I'll leave it to you to add range and descr. to Cissa (genus). :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:33, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
Ok cool. Will ping you if I see any other opportunities for pretty ones :) Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:49, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
Sounds good. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:52, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Fish for a change....Paracheirodon...or do the Mamba (latter page will be good to have on another admin's watchlist too)....Pardalote?

Done, except for Pardalote (not sure how you want the subspec. handled there. Sorry for the lazy effort on Paracheirodon and Mamba. I've got some off-wiki distractions. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:56, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
thanks! Yeah was in tow minds about that too....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:38, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
Actually if you have time do a table with subspecies. I am hunting refs and will be tinkering with them. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:49, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
Hi Cas Liber. I'm happy to do subspec. tables, but how would you like them laid out? A column for species and another for sub? And what about races? Also, for Pardalote, there are no subspec. photos. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:39, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
Aah, the race on that page is a mistake, now fixed. Make columns and subcolumns then. I will hunt for photos...Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:26, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
Okay Cas Liber, but I may take a bit of time to get to it. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:13, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
I have seen your articles, they are very nice and you help everybody in friendly language. BOTFIGHTER (talk) 13:31, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
Thank you! :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:04, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

I need to upload an image.

I am working on Gajpanth article and I need to upload an image of that place which I got from google, see this link click here. please see the first picture below the image groups tab that's the picture I want to upload for Gajpanth article is this allowed now please tell? RegardsBOTFIGHTER (talk) 14:20, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

BOTFIGHTER, you must not simply take a photo from the internet. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:24, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

I have heard that one article have been blocked

Hello, I have heard that one article named ' Bhusan Maske' have been blocked from Wikipedia and it is known that he is uncle of Salman Khan? BOTFIGHTER 12:46, 1 December 2015

I do not get results when searching for Bhusan Maske. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:25, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

Report non-respectful behavior

User:Timtrent gave me a non-respectful answer. You can see my User talk:BOTFIGHTER. It happened in Teahouse You can see it hee has also given a link where he has sent his answer, I request you too please check it! RegardsBOTFIGHTER (talk) 13:06, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

The only place I recall interacting with this editor is in answer to their question at the AFC Helpdesk about why this permalink was declined. I rest my case. Fiddle Faddle 13:38, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
The content BOTFIGHTER wrote is perfectly acceptable for a user page but not for a main space encyclopedia article. I remember being confused about the various "spaces" of Wikipedia when I first started editing. Declining the draft was correct but pointing out the right place for the material would also have been helpful, Fiddle Faddle. BOTFIGHTER, I will help you on my talk page. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 16:33, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
Hi, BOTFIGHTER. Maybe you are referring to this. Timtrent is a nice person. It is sometimes hard to judge the tone when someone writes. That is why I use a lot. :) :) What Timtrent could have pointed out is what Cullen328 did point out: There are different places for different content. You submitted "...Hi I am Botfighter from India, Maharashtra, Mumbai city. Be respectful with everyone!" as content for the mainspace. The mainspace is the actual encyclopedia. That place is for articles like chair, pizza, Mumbai, etc. Content like "Hi I am Botfighter from India, Maharashtra, Mumbai city. Be respectful with everyone!" is not appropriate for the mainspace. It is best displayed at BOTFIGHTER. Please read WP:42 to learn about what goes in the mainspace, and read WP:UPYES and WP:NOT to learn about what goes on your userpage. (I will remove the submission template from your sandbox.) Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:13, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
But what is a sandbox I didn't understood, can you please help me by telling?BOTFIGHTER (talk) 10:34, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
Hi BOTFIGHTER. A sandbox is a page in your own userspace. It must be used for something related to Wikipedia, like preparing an article for the mainspace, or content for your userpage. You created content there that could be placed at your userpage. But, you added a draft review template asking others to see if it would become an article in the mainspace. The content you added was not a problem, but adding the draft review template was a problem. The content was not appropriate for an encyclopedia article. If you have more questions, just ask. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:34, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for telling!BOTFIGHTER (talk) 08:56, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

Editing comments

Regarding this edit: I imagine you edited my comment to ping the other editor. It's not generally my habit unless I am directly soliciting some feedback from an editor and it is not evident that the editor is already watching the conversation. It is not a big deal in this case, since there was no change to the meaning of my message. I just have a personal quirk that prefers to keep control over comments made in my voice. I appreciate your efforts in trying to devise new, helpful procedures to encourage editors. isaacl (talk) 17:58, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi isaacl. It is simpler than that. I was just a misplaced (and misnamed) ping. I've fixed it with this edit. A thousand pardons, my friend. Please understand that, due to just waking up and being tired after lots of editing, I consider my first and last edits to be mulligans. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:16, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
Ah, I see; thanks for your quick reply! isaacl (talk) 23:18, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
Hi isaacl. It was a slow reply, actually. Six hours. :) I just woke up. Hey! No mulligan! :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:24, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Tanki Online

Information icon Hi Anna, Hope you are having a good day! I just wanted to let you know that the protection you set for the above page has now expired, so i removed the template. Thanks! Class455fan1 (talk to me) 23:22, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you kindly. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:25, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

File:2015 San Bernardino shooting location map.png

Thank you for uploading an image to the 2015 San Bernardino shooting article. However, I wonder if you would consider uploading a new image with a more neutral center marker that looks less like a bullseye. This would show more sensitivity to those viewing this topic, particularly the surviving victims, their families, and their friends. I also don't think that the people who live there would feel comfortable being "targeted" like this. Since all we want to do is show the location, the already existing customizable pin head markers exist for this neutral purpose. You may remember that a similar controversy arose after the Arizona shootings when Sarah Palin released a map with target-like bullseye's on it.[17] Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 01:40, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

Oh, dear. Absolutely. What would you recommend? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:47, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
Okay, I've uploaded versions with dots instead. Sorry, I read your post too quickly and missed the "customizable" bit. I hope it is okay now. I am sorry to have been so insensitive. I didn't mean to be. Also, did we discuss this with some of my previous map images? I vaguely remember it but my memory is very bad. I do not remember any Palin discussion. Commonscat. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:04, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
It looks like you uploaded the same image twice. I cleared my cache and purged the file and the article page. Viriditas (talk) 04:32, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
Me? I would never! Okay, fine. I did. I call mulligan!!! (Fixed, or not. I am hopelessly confused now. I uploaded a new version. Then the new version was a bullseye and the old version a dot. Now there are 4. Please help.) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:39, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
I see what you mean. It looks like a server replication bug on Commons. What would happen if you deleted all of the older images? In other words, delete all versions except your second upload. Viriditas (talk) 05:18, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
Let's give it 24 hrs so the server can sort out what is what. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:42, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

Deletion of Vasant Vihar article

Hello, I have read this article Vasant Vihar, it is full (almost whole) writing goes against the rule of NPOV OR Neutral Point Of View. To inform you there are many places in India of name 'Vasant Vihar', at least this article should have written the article name as 'Vasant Vihar, Delhi', I there is one place called Vasant Vihar in Thane city too. The article looks (written things and photos) like it is an advertise, please check this out. Regards BOTFIGHTER (talk) 11:16, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Thank you, User:BOTFIGHTER, you are absolutely right. I've shortened the article to a stub. I'm not sure the name needs changing, though, as long as there are no other Vasant Vihars that have articles. Bishonen | talk 12:22, 4 December 2015 (UTC).
PS, mind you, the other 122 articles on Delhi neighbourhoods listed in the template at the bottom of the article aren't much better, on a spot check. Indeed nearly all articles on Indian places I've ever come across (other than the major cities) are promotional and full of trivia. It's an Augean stable of unencyclopedic writing, as many experienced users know, and I don't know who's up for doing anything about it. Bishonen | talk 12:39, 4 December 2015 (UTC).
Unfortunately, as anyone who has lived and worked in the Indian subcontinent knows, it's a cultural dichotomy (I led the massive IEP clean up a few years ago). Not much can be done about it. There are a lot of near-native English speakers there and that is now accounting for a not entirely insignificant amount of the contributions to he English Wikipedia, Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 14:53, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

You've got mail

I believe User:Chris Welsby has tried to contact you by email. I've told him to leave a message for you at his talk page, but he seems rather inexperienced and would apparently prefer communicating via email. Huon (talk) 02:07, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

I got no email from User:Chris Welsby. Chris, please say what we should do now at your user talk page. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:00, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

The WMF China block

All of WMF was blocked for a day or two. I know others in China have been affected the same way. But WMF is back, maybe just for a while. That was the way with google and other sites: a block, temporary return, then perma-block. We shall see. I am working on a way around this. It is uncertain. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:00, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

Why have China blocked WMF Foundation sites? How come Google is blocked and what alternative is there for it there. I read that they blocked a few pages,such as the page on the Dalai Lama but not all pages.Class455fan1 (talk to me) 14:07, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
Class455fan1, we do not know. Maybe considering Jimbo will be going to China soon to discuss zhwp, it is a message that they have the power to block everything. Maybe the block is forewarning of a permanent block. That was the case with others sites they blocked. Anyhow, let's just hope it stays unblocked. As for Google, Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, and lots more, they are blocked because their content cannot be controlled, I guess. An alternative? Bing, sadly. ...or sad Bing, tragically... however you want to view it. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:02, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Moscow Symphony Orchestra - logo - 01.jpg

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For the record: This (always) non-official logo deleted and right one added. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 19:17, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Possible SP?

Hi. You speedied Lowndesboro Presbyterian Church G5 yesterday, and now it's back, created by a new editor in their second edit. Norvoid (talk) 16:00, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, Norvoid. I am very grateful. If you see him pop up again, please let me know. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 19:19, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Gurjars

hi anna please help me unprotect gujjar page which is protected for unlimited time119.160.64.161 (talk) 17:19, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) She won't un-protect it unless there is a good reason why it should be unprotected. You can always send in a Semi-Protected edit request if you want to edit this page. Or you could create an account, and when you are autoconfirmed, you can edit the page. Class455fan1 (talk to me) 17:58, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
Thank you, Class455fan1. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:37, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
Hi, User:119.160.64.161. It is protected for a reason. Please use the article talk page to request any edit you wish. If it is a good edit, someone can make it for you. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:37, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

Redirecting users to you

Hey! I am starting to get the hang of new page patrolling, and often find many new editors struggling to create well-thought articles, or just users that need help on policies of Wikipedia in general. I can advise a bit of them, but I can't get all of them, so may I ask you to help them out, or ask the user that needs help to come to you. You have a better grasp on the policies of Wikipedia than I, and should be able to more effectively help them. I won't send any of the users though. I will send only the users that are trying to help Wikipedia, and not just any vandalizer and such. Just asking, seeing so many people need help. I know you have a busy schedule and might not be able to do what I ask. Thank you for reading this, and good luck on the future Anna! FiendYT (talk) 04:18, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Sorry for the late reply, FiendYT. I'll help any way I can. Just let me know. Also, you can paste some or all of this at their talks:
Here are some important things to read about:
*[[WP:42|A simple notability guideline]] 
*[[Wikipedia:Your first article]]
*[[Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide|The plain and simple conflict of interest guide]]
*[[WP:PEACOCK|Peacock]] and [[WP:WEASEL|weasel]] words
*[[WP:RS|Reliable sources]]
*[[WP:RS|Original research]]
Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:35, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Today 9 December is my birthday, You can take this kitten as a birthday return gift. Thanks for helping me!!!

BOTFIGHTER (talk) 13:59, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Sorry for the late reply, BOTFIGHTER. Thank you for the kitten and happy birthday!! :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:35, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
Thank you very much!BOTFIGHTER (talk) 12:20, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Misunderstanding -noTrack

Hey, the user boxes on my page were a misunderstanding. I had copied some of the user boxes that I wanted on my page and was editing them to suit my profile. I did not have the time to finish the changes whenever you guys came along and it still had some of the incorrect information on it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NoTrack (talk • contribs) 14:40, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

Sorry for the late reply, NoTrack. I understand. All's well that ends well. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:35, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

Have a cocktail

New template: {{Cocktails}}. Cheers, North America1000 16:26, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

Sorry for the late reply. It looks great! I just made a real stinker called desserts. Yours is a dandy! :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:35, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
{{Dessert}} isn't so bad; could be expanded. Depends upon what scope you envision the template to have. North America1000 00:07, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

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Same or related vandal?

I like weenis. Sorry, I don't have buttons any more. Yngvadottir (talk) 01:20, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Same, blocked, tagged. Thanks. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:25, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Wealth category bling

Ahoy, homeskillet. I scanned the ever-quality-vigilant categories at Wikiproject Military History and Wikiproject Politics and found a bit of categorical decor-ical. Because the superrich need this extra touch of bling. Wait, no, this is for We, the Little People, in looking up to our masters. I don't know if this is what you're going for, because you wanted a navbox and I'm just not sure what that looks like. Try this: coordinates, for landmarks like Wall Street?; Wikisource, Commons, and Portals; links to other categories, vertical Portals, {{cat main}} if there's a mega-parent such as Economics; various templates, and a big fat notice in ur face. — Smuckola(talk) 01:36, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Actually Smuckola, I'm thinking of a navbox, like this: Template:Disasters. I just don't know how one would organize Template:Wealth based on Category:Wealth. I know, of course, the bottom group could be named "Related" and poverty could be an item there. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:42, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
Oh, THAT. I couldn't think of what a navbox is. Yes, brilliant, wealth directly leads to and is inspired and created by disasters! Well you can still use what I said above for the category anyway. Ok... — Smuckola(talk) 01:49, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
Yes, wealth, known intergalactically as "What those Earthlings have stooped to" Anyhow, thanks for the cats. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:52, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
Well it don't stop there; here's one for the youth. Informed by my sense of propriety and justice, my vote is that the most significant top categories for the navbox are these: Wealth by country, Distribution of wealth, Treasure, Income, Luxury, Altruism, Guaranteed minimum income, Poverty, Working poor. — Smuckola(talk) 01:56, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
Well, my friend, feel free to improve the navbox. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:57, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

And can you think of a good image for the right side? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:58, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Yes. FEMALE billionaires? lol you can't be serious. You didn't like the ones I listed which are actually top level categories? — Smuckola(talk) 02:38, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
Smuckola, what's wrong with female billionaires? I assume you are referring to the category being in the navbox, and not the concept. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:59, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Wealth

Template:Wealth has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Rob Sinden (talk) 13:48, 15 December 2015 (UTC)


User:Built Heritage

Hi, Anna. Thank you for talking with User:Built Heritage on their page. Obviously we need to be gentle with these promotional new users, because most of them are no doubt editing in complete good faith. However, apart from the articles created (and deleted), there's also the inappropriate username, so I've blocked them. Just a soft block, with a pretty friendly template. I hope you don't mind. Bishonen | talk 12:40, 17 December 2015 (UTC).

Hi Bishonen. I don't mind at all. Good call on your part. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:00, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

User:TeoBeza

Just a heads up that this is almost certainly User:Cryx88 - Theodore Beza was Calvin's successor in Geneva. StAnselm (talk) 19:03, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, StAnselm. Blocked and reverted. If you see him pop up again, please let me know. Best, :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:00, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

You've got mail!

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Some bubble tea for you!

Merry Christmas frodie!!! —azuki (talk · contribs · email) 00:00, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
Thank you, and Merry Christmas to you too. I was just reading about how magic mushrooms may be behind this whole thing. That would explain a lot. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:06, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Why are my changes undone?

Hello, I made changes on Mucahit Bilici entry. All of the changes are public information and included in his faculty page: http://www.jjay.cuny.edu/faculty/mucahit-bilici He is now associate professor not assistant professor. The newspaper for which he writes is no longer TARAF but YENI YUZYIL. All this info can be verified because I included links for those sources. It is unfair that my changes are refused. Please help!

Thanks. Cavetower (talk) 07:23, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Hello Cavetower. Please read the page about reliable sources. Please discuss things with the person who reverted you at the article's talk page. There, you and others can discuss things. In essence, when you add content, especially to articles about living people, that content must be supported by very, very good sources. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:21, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Season's Greetings!

Hello Anna Frodesiak: Enjoy the holiday season and upcoming winter solstice, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, North America1000 18:15, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Use {{subst:Season's Greetings}} to send this message
Thank you!!! May your presents be handmade and may the body cavity of the turkey prior to cooking not have a stench so vile that it puts you off eating any of the stuffing during dinner. A very Merry Christmas to you too! :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:46, 21 December 2015 (UTC)


Leader's Greetings to you!

Leader's Greetings!

Dear Anna Frodesiak,
A wise man said "man is the master of everything and decides everything". Reflecting the single-hearted unity of our editors, I have decided to send these Leader's Greetings to you – Anna Frodesiak – a masterful Wikipedian professing indomitable independence, creativity and consciousness in editing. May the popular masses and world progressive people enjoy your contributions next year, too! Finnusertop (talk | guestbook | contribs) 18:02, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Happy holidays on behalf of the North Korea working group, Anna Frodesiak!
Thank you kindly! Season's Greetings!! :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:56, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

Hello Anna Frodesiak: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, Class455fan1 (talk to me) 19:16, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Use {{subst:Season's Greetings}} to send this message
Thank you!!! Happy holidays to you too. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:56, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

Merry Christmas!!
Hello, I wish you and your family a Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year,

Thanks for all your help on the 'pedia!

   –Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 19:23, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
Thank you and a very Merry Christmas to you too. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:56, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
Arr thanks Anne :) –Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 22:41, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi,

Hi, very new to wiki, (i have seen a few pages in the last week that have been incorrect so i decided now would be good time to correct them,) i got a message from you saying you fixed my template, not sure what thats about, any help would be great.

Thank you

Zyc

Hi Zycore. I just replaced the content at your userpage with the Template:Userspace draft. It used to look like this, and I made it look like this by adding {{Userspace draft|date=December 2015}}. I hope that is okay. Please let me know if that is what you wanted. I am here to help. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:51, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

help

Im trying to get my new artical reviewed but theres no option to — Preceding unsigned comment added by SansMayBeLazyButHeWillMakeYouHazy (talk • contribs) 06:10, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

I CANT PUBLISH ANYTHING — Preceding unsigned comment added by SansMayBeLazyButHeWillMakeYouHazy (talk • contribs) 06:23, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi SansLazyButHe,llMakeYouHazy/SansMayBeLazyButHeWillMakeYouHazy. Is this the draft at your sandbox that I deleted? Maybe I can help. Please tell me the article topic or where the draft is located. Thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:28, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

No its a new one — Preceding unsigned comment added by SansMayBeLazyButHeWillMakeYouHazy (talk • contribs) 06:30, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Okay, SansMayBeLazyButHeWillMakeYouHazy. I am kind of flying blind here. If the big template exists at the top of the draft, there should be a button to click there to have it reviewed. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:34, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

I cant find my thing anymore — Preceding unsigned comment added by SansMayBeLazyButHeWillMakeYouHazy (talk • contribs)

I see. Well, if you give me some details, I can help. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:39, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Now i cant even MAKE AN ARTICAL cause theres no way to get to sandbox — Preceding unsigned comment added by SansMayBeLazyButHeWillMakeYouHazy (talk • contribs) 06:44, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Now i cant even MAKE AN ARTICAL cause theres no way to get to sandbox — Preceding unsigned comment added by SansMayBeLazyButHeWillMakeYouHazy (talk • contribs) 06:47, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi there. I made you two! See User:SansMayBeLazyButHeWillMakeYouHazy. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:52, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
I see you've just created User:SansIsLazyButWillMakeYouHazy. Would you like sandboxes there too? I must suggest that making lots of accounts with really long names can be disruptive and you might end up confusing yourself and others. Please consider sticking to one account or maybe even making a fourth account that is simpler and abandoning these three. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:04, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks

I saw your comment at my ORCP nomination. Thanks, and I'm glad you remember my dark history. Yes, obviously it will come up in an RfA, but how can I solve this problem? I thought for a while about this and what came to my mind is, I need a "strong nominator", I need to get the people who were my detractors to nominate me, confirming that I have indeed turned things round. I know my rusty start would still have influence in an RfA but at least the effect would be lesser. I was able to convince some of them, some people who added their comments here. They have assured that they would co-nominate me after two months or so. One of them is Titodutta (He is also mentoring me with regards to RFA) and the other is MelanieN. You remember, both of them were involved in my history, but I feel I need another kind person who was deeply involved in my past and could nominate me. I would love to hear your opinions. Thank you and seasonal greetings, Jim Carter 05:26, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

First, please understand that I wish you did not have a dark history, especially considering how your editing is now. You are a constructive member of the community.
I struggled with how to handle seeing your name there. I saw the responses by Samtar and Yash! and suddenly thought about proposing better instructions for responders. Something like "Please consider checking the user talk history and block log before responding...". Despite all the cautions written at that page, I fear that potential candidates may see a responder's not noticing and think it is not caring when it comes to skeletons in the closet. The last thing I want to see is an unfit candidate relying on the poll then getting a bad RfA result.
So, I posted, not with my personal feelings, but with a link so others could give their honest views having the facts. I wanted to turn the poll, in your case, from something that could mislead, to something that could give an honest forecast.
About your possible RfA, I am not sure any nomination would do the trick. Why should it? When it comes to deception and lying, for many, no span of time is enough to make people believe a person is no longer that type of person. For many, once a liar, always a liar. Also, people trust the judgment of nominators, but they trust their own too. Nobody will read that early post, make up their mind, then say "Well, MelanieN nominated him so she must think it is not so bad, so I guess I should change my mind and think it is alright too." Also, nominating someone who has such a history is a risk. If the RfA goes badly, that good nominator is a good nominator no more and people will start to question their judgement.
So, we see commonly see RfAs where a candidate has a few issues, and I mean a small few, and they fail and the person is heartbroken and they leave. I don't want you to leave. I am sorry to spell it out here, by it is really important for you to think about this before deciding to run. You may well get many opposes and editors pointing out your block log, lying, lying to cover up a lie, a dozen or more instances of poor judgement, up until recently, displayed throughout your current talk archives and past archives, calling a user "insane", failing to stop and listen so, so many times in your old archives, sockpuppetry, copyright violations, and even claims of hat collecting. Titodutta referred to you back then as someone who seeks to "...reach to the top...", and you certainly have headed in that direction. You are now an Arbcom clerk, autoreviewer, massmessage-sender, reviewer, rollbacker, and of course, autoconfirmed. Some might indeed see that as hat collecting.
So, this is all far from a "rusty start". And this is all within a couple of years. I just do not see how you can solve this problem. My advice would be to see how the poll goes. If it is favourable, seek a good nom or two or more. If Tito and Melanie will nominate you, that is great. You wrote "...need another kind person who was deeply involved in my past and could nominate me...". If you are suggesting I nominate you, I must decline. Once somebody lies to me, I have trust issues with them indefinitely. Plus, I simply could not support someone with that sort of history. But ask yourself about your own chances. Do you think you would pass?
If I could have the future exactly the way I wanted, I would see you be an editor and not an admin indefinitely. My concern is that you run for RfA and it does not go well and you leave, or, you pass, make a bunch of bad calls, and dozens of reading/keystroke hours are spent de-sysopping you. You make tons of good edits (which by far outweigh your occassional bad judgement calls, which are fewer and fewer). I don't want to see anything change that.
Sorry about the long post. I think that's a world record. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:11, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
Maybe yes, liars are always liars, maybe no. I don't know. But I do know what I did at that time, I was one among many confused newbie, and it was a normal instinct for them to coin up stories. FWIW, The whole thing, everything about my past is already been mentioned at my user page. Those who responded, even in a cursory look most probably have check my user page, I'm trying to hide nothing. Anyhow, thanks for your opinion. I'm certainly not a WP:DIVA and will definitely not leave if I fail in an RfA, I don't consider it a big deal. In fact, unless someone snatches my editing privileges for no reason, I'll definitely not leave. I guess, I will not run for adminship, I and everyone respect your opinion and if I run, by far your opinion will sway my supports to oppose camp. Thanks again, Jim Carter 08:32, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
I am happy to hear you will not leave one way or the other. And your userpage transparency is appreciated. As for lying due to confusion, and it being a "normal instinct", well, we have to disagree there. I don't think it is normal, necessary, or acceptable, at least not among the people I surround myself with. Sure, we all lie from time to time, but to protect the feelings of others or our privacy or some other possibly acceptable reason. Lying to gain advantage or get out of a situation is just not okay. To me, adminship is about trust more than anything, and then competence and other things. Bad behaviour and blocks, well, a few years the other way around and one can say they've really matured and changed. But once somebody has lied even once (let alone several times including lying to cover the lies) they've blown it forever, as far as I'm concerned. Anyhow, I'm glad you are reconsidering an RfA, and I'm glad you're here as an editor. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:57, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
Did you never came across a confused new editor you said that? I saw thrice. I thought I was able to gain the trust among the community, that is the reason I was thinking about an RfA. But I feel, I'm still far away from being trusted by everyone. Anyhow, I'm an editor and I'm happy being one. And the hatcollect thingy: Autoreviewer flag and reviewer flag was granted without me asking for them. ArbCom trainee: I like that work. Mass-message sender, I now use it for WP:RETENTION. Rollbacker, I don't know, most probably I requested it to use Stiki. Cheers! Jim Carter 09:24, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
Yes, but he was not confused. He chose to lie. And you have indeed gained trust and respect from the community, as an editor. As an RfA candidate, I am not sure if the community will trust you enough to give you the tools. As for hat collecting, I have no views on that. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:13, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

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