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GDIF user name + licences

Hi Anna,

- I don't understand why I need to change the user name if 'GDIFestival' is working?

- I'm in touch with your permissions team. I've got written email licence for the 'Bradley+Jenny+IronMan' image which I passed on to your permissions team yesterday - haven't heard back yet from them. Regarding all other images that are being used on the page and that I have uploaded to 'Media' in the categories 2012 & 2011, we have agreements with the photographers to use these photos, as we commissioned them to take them at the festival. Again I've emailed this info to your permissions team, but no reply yet. What to do now?

Thanks, Martina — Preceding unsigned comment added by GDIFestival (talk • contribs) 10:42, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi Martina,
About your username, please see WP:ORGNAME.
About the images, here's the status:
  • At least one claims not to need permission. Most still don't have permssion, and are destined to be deleted around Jan 11, 2013.
Some permission emails may now be in the hands of the Wikicommons people, who will remove the red box and add the permission box. Sometimes that takes a few days. If some permissions don't arrive in time, and images get deleted, it's not the end of the world. It's just a bother. Those images will need to be uploaded again. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:09, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

The Nudibranch of Niceness

Gosh, I only copyedited the article :-). Wish I could draw like you! All the best, Miniapolis 02:22, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. Actually, Invertzoo gave you the award. Cheers, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:52, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
Yes, but of course she credited you. All the best, Miniapolis 02:27, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

permissions for pics + username

I sent new permissions for all images to your permissions team and requested a username change with a bureaucrat just now. I can't see that I have an assigned bureaucrat yet. Martina — Preceding unsigned comment added by GDIFestival (talk • contribs) 10:41, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Well done with the permissions. Now that you've put in a username change request, all you need to do is wait, and they'll get back to you. Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:42, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Regarding editing in mouse computing

hi anna The editing is not for any promtion purpose but it shows innovation in computer mouse....which companies can use for there marketing tool — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pen-drive.in (talk • contribs) 11:29, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Wordpress is your source, and it's a bad source. You have a conflict of interest. Your purpose is not to show innovation. It's to sell your product. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:46, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

how to change a username?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pen-drive.in (talk • contribs) 11:51, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Please see: Wikipedia:Changing username
Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:04, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

An invitation for you!

Hello, Anna Frodesiak. You're invited to join WikiProject Today's article for improvement. If you're interested in participating, please add your name to the list of members. Happy editing! Northamerica1000(talk) 00:27, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. I will consider it. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 19:50, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Anna Frodesiak. You have new messages at TheOriginalSoni's talk page.
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Committee invitation

Hi, I would like to invite you to apply to join the IEG Advisory Committee on Meta. --Pine✉ 09:29, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I will consider it too. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 19:50, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Fish tank

Hi Anna, While I was taking pictures of the Anubias plant that flowered in my planted tank, I happened to take a picture of the tank as well. Let me know what you think. Did you get the snails under control? — Ganeshk (talk) 22:52, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Anubias flowering
Your tanks are fantastic!
My snail problem remains. I will probably start afresh.
One of my hamster tanks had a plague. Very, very terrible. Actually, I think I know what happened. I had two, and bought 7 new ones because they weren't breeding. The 7 died. They got hunchbacked, then thin, and died. I think they were poisoned by the petshop. Puppies and bunnies last only a couple of weeks here. Probably arsenic or something to keep the supply low in the public. Very sad.
I just converted two of my aquariums to terrariums. I will upload some photos. Both have nice, flourising plants. One has earth and sand, and the other mainly sand. One has some mint growing that I found by the roadside in a village. Very odd to find that. The other also has a variety of plants, and a frog named Borp. I saved him from skinning at the market. He cost 10 euros cents. He's a good frog. I just sits in the corner and is probably happy not to be in a pot.
I don't like the frog meat idea. 10% meat, and the rest is waste. A dish at the restaurant uses 20 or so frogs.
That's why I'm pro-whaling. A death is a death -- all equally sad. If we're going to eat meat, then one death and a thousand filled plates seems best. Let the pigs live in the forest. They would be happy, and they are smart as dogs, so why not? Those dear piggies snorkeling around the apple orchards making that pink piggy sound. :)
Thanks for the photos. Lovely to have a box of life in the house. I always imagine I'm really small and I want to crawl in and live there. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:45, 21 January 2013 (UTC)


Schizostachyum glaucifolium

You started this in 2011 - please categorize it properly (out of cat Bamboo to the correct sub-cat). Also any other bamboo species you've done. Thanks. Johnbod (talk) 14:40, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for telling me. I'll do my best. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:52, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Re: User talk:Chrisacct

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Oh mah gewdness...

How did you draw a whole picture for your user-page? I hardly have the patience to put userboxes on mine... :P Scientific Alan 2(Talk to the hand)(What I did)(Me) 22:25, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Well I did, but they only took about a minute each, and I doodled them bit by bit. I think it's faster than sifting through a desert of userboxes. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:35, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Do this person have enough citation for article creation under article creation guidelines ?

Hello anna, thank you for your kind welcome message, i appreciate it. few months ago, i came across Vishal Kandukuri article created through article wizard submission rated with start class, which i recently found deleted few days ago as per speedy deletion. I found other notable citation of this person in google which could be helpful for recreation of article, i guess. Please guide me over how to contribute ?

Additional citation - THE HINDU http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Hyderabad/v-adept-energy-where-ideas-take-off/article4344653.ece

ECONOMIC TIMES http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/topic/Vishal-Kandukuri/quotes/

THE HINDU http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/where-ideas-take-off/article4347001.ece

IBN LIVE http://ibnlive.in.com/newstopics/Vishal-Kandukuri.html

INDIA EVERYDAY http://www.indiaeveryday.in/fullnews-v-adept-energy-where-ideas-take-off-1005-5008315.htm

POSTNOON http://postnoon.com/2012/09/22/be-the-change-you-want/74912

HYDSTARTUPS http://hydstartups.com/2012/07/vishal-kandukuri-finds-a-unique-way-in-promoting-research-in-the-country

NAMASTE TELANGANA http://epaper.namasthetelangaana.com/epapermain.aspx?edcode=18&eddate=08%2F08%2F2012&querypage=8

HYBIZ TV http://www.hybiz.tv/Vishal-Kandukuri---V-Adept-Energy/168956

DECCAN CHRONICLE http://www.deccanchronicle.com/tabloid/teens/city-students-design-car-future-697

SAKSHI NEWS http://epaper.sakshi.com/apnews/shadnagar/09062012/details.aspx?id=1354134&boxid=25834352

Thank You,Randioten (talk) 12:40, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Hello and welcome. Out of all of those references, there is very, very little content that discusses him in any detail. They either don't connect, don't mention him, brielfly mention him, or talk about things he's involved with. Please show me what references discuss him. Many thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:39, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
thank you for reply. Sure, i love to contribute. there are couple links which mention him in detail, i guess. few articles are in English , & few articles are in some other language.

Post noon English news paper- http://postnoon.com/2012/09/22/be-the-change-you-want/74912 published in Post Noon on 14 september 2012

Some fan blog- http://vishalkandukuri.blogspot.in/2013/01/blog-post_9264.html published in Deccan Chronicle on 20 november 2012 (http://vishalkandukuri.blogspot.in/2013/01/blog-post_9264.html)

Some entrepreneur related website- http://hydstartups.com/2012/07/vishal-kandukuri-finds-a-unique-way-in-promoting-research-in-the-country/ published in hyd startups on 08 july 2012

Fan blog- http://vishalkandukuri.blogspot.in/2013/01/blog-post_9301.html published in Andhra Prabhan news paper on 27 july 2012

Fan blog- http://vishalkandukuri.blogspot.in/2013/01/blog-post_5074.html published in Namaste Telangana News paper on 08 august 2012

Personal website http://www.vishalkandukuri.com/news.html

http://www.vishalkandukuri.com/images/6.jpg content in English published in deccan chronicle on 11 july 2011 (http://www.deccanchronicle.com/tabloid/teens/city-students-design-car-future-697)- added to archive by website.

http://www.vishalkandukuri.com/images/7.jpg content in some other language published in Eenadu daily news paper on 11 may 2011

Thank YouRandioten (talk) 14:43, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

I really don't think the subject passes GNG ("The topic must have received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject.").
The last batch of links either don't connect, are blogs or his own site (which are not reliable sources), or don't discuss him in detail. Others may disagree, but I don't think he is notable enough. Sorry to tell you that because I saw the video and he seems like a nice boy. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 15:13, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
Nice ?, what made you say that, just asking ? . However all these links and news about him say ,he is young philanthropist and more. And i believe philanthropists are good people. He has fan groups ? amazed me frankly. Randioten (talk) 15:25, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
He just seems nice. I like what's he's doing. But, for an article, he needs to satisfy WP:GNG. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 15:31, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
Cool . but thing which wonder me is, why was article Vishal Kandukuri previously created & accepted through AFC submission on October 2012 by MatthewVanitas (administrator)under Start class, low importance. Randioten (talk) 15:53, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
I would guess that editor, at the time, believed that the topic met Wikipedia's requirements for notability. In the subsequent deletion discussion, consensus was that it did not. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 16:00, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
Yes indeed. It happens. I've approved a few lemons in my time too. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 16:45, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
gottachRandioten (talk) 18:18, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Hey Anna Frodesiak

I'm am really sorry if I hurt wikipedia guidelines. the website www.AmbienceMallGurgaon.in is a website that explains the actual Ambience Mall Gurgaon a great destination to make shopping, food, fun and entertainment. And I tried to provide actual information on wikipedia. Even though if you think I'm doing it for my website promotions; you can remove them all.

Thank You for your Kind Support and a genuine feedback.

Thanks again Praveen — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.98.232.81 (talk) 14:18, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Don't worry. I left a few. Happy editing. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:23, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
Ambience Mall Gurgaon would be an excellent name for a species of fish. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 16:01, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
It would! And also a good name for a Vogon poem. "Ode to a lumpy, green, putty-shaped fish..." Anna Frodesiak (talk) 16:37, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks a lot Anna! I am still very new to contributing to Wikipedia and I am unsure of how some of the procedures work. I have sent in the email to permissions from an email that contains the source's web address. I am an expert in automobile conversions and design and wanted to update the party bus pictures to reflect the contemporary interior and exterior styles that are key to the party bus concept. Thanks, MadKite--MadKiteLix (talk) 01:46, 28 January 2013 (UTC)


Hey Anna Frodesiak I need your Answer

Hey Anna I am here to provide a unique content for the website. The Ambience Mall Gurgaon is an original website of Ambience Mall. I am writing because this brand name "Ambience Mall Gurgaon" is my company's product. So, I just want to ask you how to use wikipedia for genuine reasons.. Please reply If you don't reply I'll think of you not supporting local businesses on wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IMPraveen (talk • contribs) 11:56, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Please read WP:COI and WP:SOCK.
It looks like you're copy pasting promotional sentences. It looks like you're writing in a promotional style. I know you're here to use Wikipedia as free ad space. Please don't. For the record:
I do not support the use of Wikipedia to help your local business.
Please try local newspapers or local radio stations or local telephone poles upon which you can paste locally photocopied advertisements using locally purchased paste.
Support your local photocopiers! Support your local paste suppliers! Go outside now and support one of the local telephone poles. Our people will locate your locale and tell you when it's time to stop. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:09, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Hello Anna I Need Your Help

Hello My Friend.How are U? i need Your help about article of Leo Jee i want to now: when i search leo jee on Google.com i find there leo jee wikipedia but not like this(u can see photo for example) i mean discussion on right side of page Google.com.

File:Example5678.JPG

plz help me what i must to do that Leo Lee search like this ... thank U so much !!!--AlexSpancer (talk) 14:12, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Hello. That's a google question. Please ask at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing. They may be able to help. Good luck. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:18, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank U so much !!! i'll hope they will help me.--AlexSpancer (talk) 14:21, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

PartyBus.com removal?

Hello Anna,

I'm the President of Operations for PartyBus.com, and was also the one who recently added it to the wiki page for Party Bus. You have removed the link to my site which is completely G rated and has no foul content. It is a completely relevant link about Party Buses globally which also allows you to rent them globally or at least get a quote.

Please let me know why this was rejected as it seems to be totally fine according to the Wiki TOU.

I look forward to your reply. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PartyBus com (talk • contribs) 22:49, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Hello. You added it to the reference section. But whether you added it to that section or the external links section, you did so to promote your company. Being G-rated is only one criterion for inclusion. Please read WP:ADV and Wikipedia:Spam. Thanks. Happy editing. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:14, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Please let me know why my completely relevent site is not allowed. From what you said it was due tot he fact that is was promoting my site. I personally just called the other two companies listed on the same Wiki page who state that yes they were the ones who put up links to their companies. How are their sites allowed, yet mine isn't? Am I putting it in the wrong area? — Preceding unsigned comment added by PartyBus com (talk • contribs) 23:36, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Good point. Those links are there as inline references supporting facts in the article. But, they are lousy references and should be replaced with non-commercial ones. Thanks for pointing that out. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:41, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

PartyBus.com Editted

I will stop using this account and have created a new one called "KBenzies". I in no way meant to violate the terms of use. Please let me know if this is ok, and if possible. Delete this account. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PartyBus com (talk • contribs) 23:24, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

  • Good: You have chosen a new username.
  • Bad: You have restored the link.
I have removed it again. Please don't restore it. Thanks, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:29, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
I'll second that. And note that it is not possible to delete accounts. Dougweller (talk) 06:21, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

change username

Hi Anna,

Can you please direct me to the page where I can change the username?

I had contacted a bureaucrat a few weeks ago, but seems like nothing happened. Maybe I used the wrong page for submission.

Thanks, Matina — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.27.108.98 (talk) 17:02, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi Matina. I think I see what happened. You added the request in this edit:
and then a new user accidentally removed your request in this edit:
It may be just as well because you wanted to change your name from GDIFestival to GreenwichDIF, while your organization name is Greenwich+Docklands International Festival. This sort of implies shared use, and is still promotional and represents your organization. I suggest a username that has nothing to do with your organization.
Please submit the username change again. This time it should turn out well this time: Wikipedia:Changing username/Simple. Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:25, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

I want to create my village page

I have s few pics of my village.. let me know how to create page — Preceding unsigned comment added by LavaJuggler (talk • contribs) 03:46, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi LavaJuggler. Welcome back! Yes! Just type the name of the village in the searchbox. If that name is taken, put "(village)" after the name. Then, click the redlink and type in "Example is a village in India...". Don't forget to add references. Then, we can work on adding the images you have. You can upload those here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UploadWizard
Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:50, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

My recent edits

I would like to point out that even though that is my viewpoint. Removing the thing about being a Naturalized american, on the Reginald Fessenden page was not unfounded. To be a naturalized american citizen he would actually have to have had an american citizenship, Which he did not. He may have lived in america but he was not an american. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ProCanadian (talk • contribs) 04:52, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Fair enough. Thanks for getting back to me and explaining. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:05, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

I'm going CUCKOO from CUCAS puffs

What do you make of this? Viriditas (talk) 09:38, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Thoughts:
What do you think? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:40, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
Actually, I'm having trouble finding sources of any kind. Google has hardly anything, and these show nothing about CUCAS: http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/ http://english.people.com.cn/
I am now going through their site to how it treats me. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:46, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
Shown at the bottom of http://school.cucas.edu.cn is perhaps their parent company: http://www.chiwest.net/
See NebY' comment "...I've just had a rather baffling experience..." at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/China's University and College Admission System
Note the existence of the blocked User talk:CHIWEST. Zero contribs shown, but maybe created a now-deleted page. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:52, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
In their privacy policy, they state that they do not release your private info to third parties, but in the next breath state: "...we may disclose some or all of the information we collect with the following types of affiliated companies and third parties: Companies with whom we conduct joint marketing campaigns..."[1]
I don't know if that's standard stuff, but I'm glad I gave them bojang information when I applied. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:01, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) Looks like a commercial venture, despite the official-sounding name and the .edu.cn domain. Googling with the Chinese name doesn't reveal much either (though I didn't search carefully). If you think it's not notable, it very possibly isn't. wctaiwan (talk) 14:05, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Re: Amanda Todd.

Yes it is. The links to the specific stories are currently on the talk page... somewhere in that morass. Resolute 23:03, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Many thanks. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:30, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

For your efforts...

The Frodesiak Award
I saw you pop in to WikiProject medicine, to restore order to an article of critical importance (ankle jerk reflex) AND it just reminded me how much good humor you bring to this little project of ours. While you do consistently useful work, you also brighten up the place while you do so. Thanks for being awesome! Ocaasi t | c 00:19, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for the kind words, and I love the award!
When going through the history I couldn't help singing: "...bee-doop bee-doop, bee-doop bee-doop, dipity-doop, dipity-doop..." Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:20, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Invitation to WikiProject Hotels

Hello, Anna Frodesiak.

You are invited to join WikiProject Hotels, a WikiProject and resource dedicated to improving Wikipedia's coverage of hotels, motels and lodging-related topics.

To join the project, just add your name to the member list. Northamerica1000(talk) 14:07, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Article feedback RFC

Hi Anna, can you please share your thoughts on AFT here, Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Article feedback? Thanks. — Ganeshk (talk) 13:24, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi Ganeshk. Well, I read the 4 questions. I really don't know what to think. Then I started to read the rest of the 345,916 characters. After the first 5,000 I had an out of body experience then fainted. Sorry I'm not very helpful with this one.

As promised, here are two of my terrariums:

  • This terrarium is mostly water. That's my frog "Greener". He's just happy to be alive.
    This terrarium is mostly water. That's my frog "Greener". He's just happy to be alive.
  • This terrarium is mostly land. There were 5 black newts in it, but I think they may have left. There's mint in the back. I found it by the roadside and it's doing quite well.
    This terrarium is mostly land. There were 5 black newts in it, but I think they may have left. There's mint in the back. I found it by the roadside and it's doing quite well.

Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:48, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

The terrariums are awesome, lush and green. Thanks for posting the pictures. The frog looks happy. :) Is there a water shower in the first one? — Ganeshk (talk) 00:29, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. :) I found Greener hopping along the floor today. He looked happy. No water shower. It's just a fish tank. I'm thinking of getting a few eels, or maybe they're loaches. Black, 10cm or so, from the market. Maybe they'll eat the snails in one of the fish tanks. Not sure how eels and frogs get along. We'll see. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:38, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

LOL

Thanks for the "vehemently confused" statement, I laughed pretty hard. Thanks for bringing some light-heartedness back there. — - dain- talk    00:50, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. But I meant it. I'm terrible at deciding what's best when both sides make a good point. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:57, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
Maybe it's just me but I just think's an important distinguishing note since she was blackmailed with it which contributed to her depression etc ultimately resulting in her taking her own life. — - dain- talk    01:02, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
True. We'll have to see how it turns out at the article talk page. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:06, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
Yep yep, take care! — - dain- talk    01:19, 8 February 2013 (UTC)


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Caste articles

I just noticed this and this on List of Ezhavas. Quick, run away while you still can!!! Once you start down the road of helping maintain Indian caste/tribe/clan articles, you may not be able to stop. All of your wiki time will be spent reverting POV pushers' explaining for the three hundredth time that neither the editor's family, nor their experience, not religious texts written a thousand years ago are reliable source; and generally mucking about. Then, if you're lucky, you can eventually eventually get taken to ANI for alleged abuses, and then if you're really lucky someone will start waging an off-wiki war against you (luckily, I've avoided the latter, at least w.r.t. the Indian castes).

Seriously, be careful what you get sucked into. The work you do on all manner of living organisms is too valuable too lose! Qwyrxian (talk) 05:34, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Maaah, they're just a buncha penguin fondlers. Besides, we have rollback and they don't. If it's a caste entry unsourced, I will usually just zap it on sight. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:30, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Deepwater Horizon oil spill

Hi, Anna Frodesiak. You have been an active editor on Deepwater Horizon oil spill and/or its related articles. During some last months there has been an active development of cleaning up that article by splitting off large sections into separate articles. A Deepwater Horizon series were created (all the articles accessible by Template:Deepwater Horizon oil spill series. You are invited to assist by cleaning-up and copy-editing these articles. There are also ongoing discussion concerning additional split-offs. You could see split-off templates at the article's page and find discussions at the talk page. Your input would be useful for building consensus on these issues. Thank you. Beagel (talk) 23:43, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

I'll take a look. Thanks, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:07, 13 February 2013 (UTC)


Hi Anna,

we would like to use the logo in the article of de.Wikipedia [2]. Could you please help us.?

Best regards, Fiona — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fiona Baine (talk • contribs) 21:50, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry. I really don't know the rules on using non-free images in Germany. Maybe a talk page stalker can advise. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:08, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
de:Wikipedia:Bildrechte#Fair_Use is the place to look, but if the google translate is right, it sounds like fair use is not allowed under German law, so it won't be possible to use the logo in the .de article. (seeing as I'm passing by, here's another strange sea slug for you: [3]) SmartSE (talk) 22:20, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
You may be able to upload the simple logo to commons. See: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:TOO#Germany . The complex logo may need discussion though. If you can get them to release it under a 'free licence' that may be easiest. I would think they still retain any trademark rights if it is registered though. Upload both to commons and see if they survive deletion dicussions.--Canoe1967 (talk) 22:46, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
Resolved

Thanks for stalking by. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:29, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

RE: Jar Jar

I thought I was being objective. Seems a stretch to call him lovable when many detest him, even the characters in the movie. Ah well, to each their own. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Flynnlives23 (talk • contribs) 03:35, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

You were very objective. No doubt about it. He's not lovable. He's idiotic and annoying. Plus, the whole Jar Jar and the chief thing seems racist to me. I don't even know why I reverted you. I guess whe should check what most sources say most of the time. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:04, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks for catching the reflist

Thanks for catching the missing reflist template on Hats and headwear! Can't believe I didn't think to check there was already one there. Mabalu (talk) 12:58, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

No problem. I do that all the time. Lots of us do. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:00, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Next Step China

Hello Anna,

I noticed that you flagged us linking of the university profiles of China universities as spam and don't understand why. All we did was confirm the same information that was on the WIKIPEDIA profile. Our company does have a partnership/cooperation with all of these universities in fact the universities in China ask us to write better content on our website given they don't have someone in their offices dedicated to dothis. Have you seen some of these websites in China? The English is in fact horrific for most and we have had to translated a lot for them.

In saying that I see a lot of competitors put their own profile pages as promotional and yet they aren't flagged. I have always wanted to put a Next Step China, LLC corporate profile as we have been quoted and sourced and many more national media outlets than for example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chinese_Language_Institute which is CLEARLY promotion yet it was not flagged. Given this example if I were to do the same as them it would be considered OK?

Please help me in trying to understand how you would try to hurt our reputation by saying that our links to actual sources is spam. We do not spam nor have we ever.

I would also appreciate if our link is removed from the WIKI talks section.

Sincerely,

Derek Capo Next Step China, LLC Chief Executive Officer — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.246.177.56 (talk) 20:23, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

  • There are two issues you discuss: adding your website as references, and having an article (which you refer to as a "profile").
  • The Chinese Language Institute is an article. The issue over Next Step China is that your representative added around 60 urls as references to articles.
  • I do not see http://www.studycli.org being used as references or external links. Please point them out if they exist.
  • Your representative only added content to around 6 articles. In those cases she added copy pasted content, which is a copyright violation.
  • We consider your site spammy because it has banner advertisements, and, despite being an "org", is itself a commercial site, i.e. you are out to make money.
  • The references you added supported very basic information. Such information can be supported by non-spammy references. We prefer those.
  • A number of organizations have tried to add references or external links here, claiming to have a partnership/cooperation with the Chinese education organizations. In all cases, including yours, that is a vague claim, and likely inconsequential. All cases were handle the same way as yours.
  • You have a conflict of interest. I believe that your motive for adding these references is to increase profits to your organization rather than to improve Wikipedia.
  • I'm not trying to hurt your reputation. I am preventing your organization from hurting Wikipedia's reputation.
I hope this settles the matter. If you have further questions, please ask. Best wishes,
Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:26, 15 February 2013 (UTC)


Hello Anna,

Thanks for the reply.

If I were to spend my time showing you the thousands of links on wikipedia proving to you how many other "companies" have linked to wikipedia claiming prominent information I would have to quit my job and probably do yours. Trust me I don't, way too hard :)

Here is a perfect example: this website IS a company that is providing "information" AND having banner advertisements yet it is being used in a lot of the university rankings for China and might I add dated from 2008! Here is the link: http://www.chinaeducenter.com/en/universityranking1.php

Please look at the left and right of the page these are REAL banner advertisements. In fact they are a LARGE competitor of ours. Next Step China does not have banners that link to external websites or collect a revenue from these "banners" that we have yet that link above does.

I am really upset at how you label a business like ours as spam. I wrote those profiles myself and didn't copy anything from Wikipedia. In fact Wikipedia has a lot of dated information and we have tried to update as much as we can from the information of the university. The universities don't have the time, money or people to update their Wikipedia page. Let's say we were to get an update of material information from the university on say the updated # of students, new programs, etc. and source and edit that on the page with our link to our page, would we also still be considered spam even though this would be beneficial to the public? According to you I would STILL be considered spam and therefore new information sourced from a business that was given to us by the university and not updated on the university page would hurt wikipedia experience given the information would be dated and no longer as relevant. Please let me know if I am wrong about this.

The CLI website is not an article but a pure promotion of their business. I will do exactly the same thing they did and I bet the Wikipedia gods would say that we spammed, have an intention of promotion etc. etc.

Again, thanks for your reply. I look forward to your response to the questions I asked above.

Sincerely,

Derek — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.98.22.77 (talk) 02:43, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi Derek. Writing the profiles yourself likely makes that content unreliable according to Wikipedia: Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources
When I said "...she added copy pasted content..", I meant that she copy pasted content from your website verbatim to Wikipedia. That's a copyright violation.
Regarding your claim that the existence of other material at Wikipedia is a justification for yours to be included, please read: Wikipedia:Other stuff exists. In fact, bringing that to our attention helps us rid Wikipedia of that other stuff.
Please tell me the reason why you wish to add these links to Wikipedia in the first place?
Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:08, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Hello Anna,

Thanks for the reply.

The goal for Next Step China to link to wikipedia is to provide better information to the Wikipedia community in regards to programs, pictures, etc of the 200 or top universities in China. So many of the profiles/articles of the university are missing a lot of material information that would be beneficial to the wikipedia community. For example, a lot of the univerisities only started offering programs for international students of which a lot of these programs are not even listed on the wikipedia article.

Again, let's keep in mind that a lot of these universities do not have the resources, money, or know-how (excellent English language) in accurately writing or sourcing their own university content. We will try as best as possible to source the university website and will happily translate some of the content. In fact, this is the main reason why Next Step China created profiles of the universities as some of these universities do not have a dedicated English language version of their website which sourcing Next Step China would be providing material information that would be beneficial to the school AND the wikipedia community.

As far as creating a article for Next Step China like The Chinese Language Institute, how do you suggest we go about doing that as we would want to do EXACTLY like they did. We want the community of WIkipedia to know that Next Step China has the same level of recognition if not more than CLI.

How should we go about doing this? Who should write these articles on our behalf. The last thing we want is to be labeled as spam, etc.

I would appreciate your guidance.

Sincerely,

Derek Capo — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.246.177.56 (talk) 11:18, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi Derek,
I'm pleased to hear that you wish to improve Wikipedia. As we cannot consider Next Step a reliable source, we would be grateful if you would help Wikipedia by adding the content to which you refer, supported by other sources. You can add them in the same way. We suggest as references using books, newspaper and magazine articles, government publications, etc.
As for a Next Step article, great! Please read WP:GNG and Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#No inherent notability, and then find lots and lots of media references that discuss your organization in detail. You can prepare the draft in your sandbox, tell me when it's ready, and I'll even fast track it into the mainspace. But, please ensure that the references are not simply your own website, industry listings, or blogs.
Best wishes,
Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:45, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Hello Anna,

Thanks for the reply. I appreciate it. So, if I were to have new information about a program or something of the university Next Step China won't be allowed to have that sourced, correct? I guess I just don't get it because it isn't like the information would be bad for the community and like I mentioned earlier universities in China (not the larger more funded ones) don't have the resources to do this, hence the relationship we have.

As for an article on Next Step China. I wrote the following but to be honest I am cluless about the coding for the sources, putting the logo, putting the info and stuff on the right hand side. Here is my sandbox: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nextstepchina/sandbox Please let me know what I should do to get this done correctly before it is reviewed and approved.

Thank you!

Sincerely,

Derek Capo — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nextstepchina (talk • contribs) 14:54, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Adding referenced content: Yes, new information about a program etc. would be great. But why not add the original source (unless that source is a blog or Linkedin or something)? Where did you get the information? That's the source that's best.
Your article draft:
Don't worry about the logo for now. That can only be added once the article is approved.
Don't worry about formatting for now. That can done once enough refs are in place.
Draft has a somewhat promotional style. Write just the facts, ma'am-style. Write from the point of view of a competitor who hates your guts. :)
The refs:
So, you have 2 good refs. You need several more. Scour google news and google new archives, etc.
Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:50, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Hey Anna,

Thanks for the quick reply.

I got a new account, here it is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Chinaguru2013/sandbox

Dude you are in China? I am in Beijing now and Shanghai in a week or so, you around?

OK, for the links. -I put the entrepreneur one as it validates name of company, location etc. nothing else about the company. I can remove it.

-the university parent I changed to this one: http://news.fiu.edu/2010/03/fiwho-fiu-defines-itself/11690 (directly from university)

-The centre.edu one basically says this about next step china; "We have established this new program by working with Derek Capo, CEO of NextStepChina, who has arranged for a bilingual coordinator in Shanghai to assist our students if problems arise. In addition, two additional bilingual individuals will be on retainer in Shanghai, should they be needed." I thought that was good enough to show an affiliation with the university.

-Empact100.com is that we are on a list of like a few hundreds but I also have a pres release: http://newsle.com/article/0/33714068/

OK...so i tried to think as if my competitor hated my guts and to be quite frank they may just not write anything at all, hahaha! Can you tell me what sections are most promotional. I didn't know what to put in the programs section but I followed the CLI format and they put a lot of stuff on there so figured I would do exactly what they did.

I am trying to find more sources for you but don't know for which section we would need.

Again, thanks for your help. I really appreciate it.

Sincerely,

Derek Capo

Add whatever references you have. If your org is mentioned at Empact100.com then add that too, but I didn't see it there.
Zap any WP:PEACOCK words to help make it neutral. If, by CLI format, you mean http://www.studycli.org/, then please don't follow that. It's full of peacock words. Read other articles to see how it should be. Read brochures to see how it shouldn't be.
I'll format the sandbox for you, but probably won't approve it myself. You can paste this at the top of the draft to submit it for review: {{subst:submit}} Best if someone else has a look at it because I'm pretty tough on forprofits in general, and in this case, know that you have a conflict of interest, and know your motivation (exposure for greater profit). In fact, for transparency and fairness, I would like to let the reviewers know that the author is the owner of the company, and will make a note at the draft.
By the way, I am in Haikou, Hainan, and using "dude" may be a bit odd, as you just might be addressing a grandmother. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:07, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Update

Okay, I formatted the draft. Feel free to expand the infobox and replace the "___________" with a basic definition of what the company is. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:23, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Hello Anna,
Thanks for the reply.
Hey I think grandmas are hot! :) On another note Anna why you making me jump through more hurdles (not approving article, telling everyone I am the owner, etc.) you make me feel like a bad person (motivation of profit)....do you hate me Anna? :(
OK I will find more sources and find the empact100.com we are on the list on the second page so need to put that...also, will remove peacock words. Hopefully, if we pass all of your rigorous requirements we can get this article posted.
Derek — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chinaguru2013 (talk • contribs) 21:19, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
Hi Derek,
  • I'm not trying to give you a hard time, nor do I think you're a bad person. I'm trying to subject the draft to scrutiny because this is an encyclopedia, and not free ad space.
  • I personally don't want to approve it because I'm biased against company articles, (and companies in general). Unless they easily pass Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#No inherent notability, I won't approve them, but others may. Please understand that we get oceans of startup companies on the make, trying to get exposure via Wikipedia. Per WP:NOTTEMPORARY, once an article is in, it usually stays in for good. In fifty years, we will have hundreds of thousands of articles about companies that got a few media writeups and vanished a year later. So, we try to be discriminating.
  • Letting others know that the author has a conflict of interest is important. That link will tell you why. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:55, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
Hi Anna,
OK I respect your initiatives with Wikipedia and your purpose. The last thing I want to do is cause any trouble to you or your reputation. I guess the harder this is for us the better. Please let me know if there is anything that stands out that would make you or another editor want to not approve the article. I wrote the article using the sources and nothing more. I zapped peacock words but maybe you think others are there that I am not seeing.
Sincerely,
Derek Capo — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chinaguru2013 (talk • contribs) 22:07, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
It seems okay. You can paste this at the top of the draft to submit it for review: {{subst:submit}} It has pretty good chances, but who knows.
Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:24, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

One for a bored stalker

The folks at Wikipedia:Copyright problems are up to their eyeballs, so I thought I'd do something I don't usually do: post here.

An odd case:

Sdm.prdn (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

Some contribs appear to be copyvio, but mostly at a PRODded article. I will check that later because I have to go out.

My concern is Regional Rural Bank. It's totally copypasted.

This may allow it: ...Although Government (India) works are copyrighted, the reproduction or publication of following works not copy protected...Report of a committee, commission, council, board or other like body appointed by the Government...

This may prohibit it: "© NABARD 2007"

Please act or advise. I will check back later when I get home. If nobody handles this, I will. Cheers, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:59, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, they're not actually part of the government. They're owned by the government, but I don't think that's actually the same thing. I'll see if there's something salvageable, if not I'll blank it/stub it/something. Qwyrxian (talk) 03:30, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
Thanks Q. But, hey! You're not bored. You're swamped with the Royalist thing, and the caste thing. I've been watching.
I think I see where you're going with this, and I can probably handle it just fine. Really. I may take a day or two as I'm busy with some off-wiki, but I'll get to it. You know how it is with copyvios: get 'em fresh before they get buried, and before the user makes a zillion more. Best wishes, and keep fighting the good fight. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:50, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
Resolved

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:29, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Thank you Qwyrxian!! :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:57, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

merger integration

No i do not work for them....do you happen to? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Terrillfrantz (talk • contribs) 13:39, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

I do not. I struck that question at your talk page. As you started that article, please consider getting rid of that spammy set of references. It does the article (Merger integration) an injustice. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:42, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Not sure about an action you have taken?

Hello, on the page Anja Cetti Andersen, I see you visited because there is an action listed as " 22:06, 16 February 2013‎ Anna Frodesiak (talk | contribs)‎ . . (21,235 bytes) (-280)‎ . . (rm http://www.digplanet.com/wiki/... reference (wikipedia mirror)) (undo)" the article looks the same, but it seems you have removed a reference, if I am correct. I cannot understand why you would since we're encouraged to put references wherever we can, and I like to get a wide variety so that I can't be accused of bias, or using a "fansite" or something. What is a wikipedia mirror? Why am I not allowed to use one? I can easily replace the reference with another source, but I am fascinated with this action of yours, since it's never happened before. Could you please explain this a bit for me? Thanking you Ybidzian (talk) 13:47, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Hello. Unless I'm mistaken (which wouldn't be the first time today), digplanet is a mirror of Wikipedia, and so, not a good reference. Please replace it with a reliable source. Many thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:03, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Brand new socks

Yes, I listed three in a report Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Panadura Royalist. Cossde (talk) 13:49, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Ok. I commented there and tagged the three non-IPs as sockmaster Masu7. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:29, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Hello

Hi there. I was wanting to know if you were interested in writing an article together. I'm in the mood for it. What do you say? --Yrtneg 02:45, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Okay. What did you have in mind? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:49, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
Whatever works, really. I'm about to go look at the list of requested articles. i \T/A\C 03:56, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
I've been thinking of putting together a navbox or two for pages related to:
The see also sections of many of those articles are bloated, and that's a sign that a navbox is needed. I'm just not sure about the navbox name(s) as sort of hubs for articles, or how to structure things.
The only thing I know about the subject is that if you wander around seaport cargo container yards, it's really easy to get run over by a forklift, and security men throw you out really fast. Thoughts? Collaboration? Your cup of tea? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:45, 19 February 2013 (UTC)\
Ok, a collaboration sounds good. I don't know how to make a navigation box, so I'm going to go look it up. Should we start in the userpace? wikipedia:~ iTAC$ cd /talk 23:22, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
Check my userpage for examples. Maybe we could just pick one of the latest ones and swap in the info we want. Feel free to start things on any one of my sandboxes. You can paste in a copy of another navbox (disable the categories). I usually grab a list of the items in the categories and then sort them into the groups. In this case, I have no clue how to organize it. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:31, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
Ok. Do you think you can get on IRC? wikipedia:~ iTAC$ cd /talk 00:15, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
ok. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:22, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

Have a coffee on me! It will cost you an IRC conversation though -- Cheers, Riley 23:11, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
Thank you. I will see you at IRC soon. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:39, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Change management

Hi Anna,

Thanks for reaching out. It is not, I wrote it. I had an assignment from my Management class to add to a Wikipedia page so those were my contributions.

Hope that helps! Joshua — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joshualagan (talk • contribs) 18:09, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi Joshua. I think I've been a bit overzealous on the copyvio thing lately. A thousand pardons. Here are a few: pardon, pardon, pardon, pardon, pardon... I'll have to owe you the rest. :) I will restore the content at once. My worst nightmare is offending newcomers, as I try to do the opposite as often as I can.
I was led to that article from Merger integration, which seemed to contain a lot of copyvios too, and had contributor(s) in common. Would you be so kind as to look at the article history and tell me if you recongnize any classmate's names? Merger integration may have had some legitimate content among the rest, which was just copy pastes cobbled together to make the article.
Again, I'm terribly sorry. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:37, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Comment

That's quite a cited contribution. In checking up to see what I did wrong, I can see a vast number of websites using your content verbatim -- more than I've ever seen. But none that I can find predate yours. I guess people have found your content useful and worth adding to their website. Cheers, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:24, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Interesting how people do things isn't it. Give them a decent list of references and they go nuts. I was a philosophy grad, so I am used to backing up just about every phrase if I have to, and researching far and wide. I know Wiki is not supposed to be used as a source in many academic institutions, but people may tend to use it if it's constructed reliably, which can only be a good thing. Thanks for your help, and I shall continue to try and reference where appropriate, and learn more about WIKI's processes. Cheers YB Ybidzian (talk) 12:07, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject Cleanup

Hello, Anna Frodesiak.

You are invited to join WikiProject Cleanup, a WikiProject and resource for Wikipedia cleanup listings, information and discussion.

To join the project, just add your name to the member list. Northamerica1000(talk) 14:33, 24 February 2013 (UTC)


COI and fact based updates

Anna,

Thank you for the link to the COI page. I appreciate and agree that Wikipedia is best when neutral, sourced information is used.

I think I have done a better job this time around.

Jason — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jason McNamee (talk • contribs) 23:04, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi Jason. It was User:A13ean who posted the COI thing. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:42, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Nice imagemap!

That's quite the fun imagemap on your user page! I burst out laughing when I saw the guy on the laptop links to pornography. Cheers, — -dainomite   21:23, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. If you knew who that person was, you'd laugh twice as hard. Did you check his head? :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:45, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
Hahaha, no I missed that link! Oh jeez that's hilarious. Is that supposed to be you on the other side of the table? I see it goes to Anna (given name). Damn, now I'm finding all sorts of little ones like that ? one and such. — -dainomite   22:44, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Precious

this is life
Thank you for quality articles on ants, bees and gastropods, illustrated with love on your user page, for lists such as list of missing treasure, and for the treasure of what life is, - repeating: you are an awesome Wikipedian (21 November 2010)!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:20, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

You put a big smile on my face. Thank you. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:18, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

A little Help Combining Templates

Hi Anna. I was wondering if you could help me fuse two templates into one. The noted templates are:

Both templates contain the same exact information, and appear on all 46 of the noted institutions; I was wondering if we could eliminate the duplication by just making one template "WHO/MOE-Recognized English Medium Medical Schools (China)". Ultimately, this gives credibility to both important official health bodies (WHO and MOE)and maintains the credibility of the list. How can I best achieve this? Is a move in order? Thanks Compendium wmc (talk) 17:39, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

No problem. I'll look after it very soon. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:56, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Follow-up

Here is the new template: {{WHO/MOE-Recognized English Medium Medical Schools (China)}}

  • I swapped in the new template at all articles (I think I got them all).
  • I requested speedy deletion ({{db-r3}}) of the old two and another redirect just to tidy up.

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:15, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Very nice work, Anna. I don't know if wikipedia is extremely sensitive about all the capitalization....but I like it. Thank you very much. It actually works out cleaner this way. :) Compendium wmc (talk) 02:12, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

You're very welcome. And yes, Wikipedia is hugely sensitive about capitalization. :) Seriously though, it is important. Convention and accuracy supersedes appearance. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:31, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

User:MichaelDOwen/sandbox now Metropolis Video

Hey Anna, if you haven't already done so, maybe you could give Michael's draft the once-over and see if you can see ways in which it can be improved? It's challenging for a newbie to start right off attempting an article. For example, feel try to change the prose if it is too POV or not quite suitable for an encyclopedia... or anything else you might spot. It would be great if we could help him succeed to get this accepted. Invertzoo (talk) 20:06, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi Susan. I think it's fine. It's a defunct org, so any slight POV tone shouldn't keep it out of the mainspace, in my view. If I were him, I'd get it into the mainspace ASAP before someone moves it to AfC, where there's a huge backlog.
Once in the mainspace, hit it with talk banners to get eyes on it, and maybe even see if there's a valid reason to post at project Music or Project NYC to get even more eyes on it. Then, others will improve it. I seldom prep drafts in a sandbox. I use those mostly for working things out. I want articles in the mainspace fast so others can work on it too. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:51, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks again for your advice. I'll move the article. MichaelDOwen (talk) 06:12, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Hope you don't mind, I went ahead and moved it myself. It's now at Metropolis Video. Invertzoo (talk) 23:04, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Just looked at the article. You put in all the right images. The text box is great. It's fantastic. Thanks so much for your help. I look forward to seeing the comments. MichaelDOwen (talk) 05:27, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Question Regarding Neutrality Tags

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I have asked Sitush 5 times to please put up the neutrality tags in good faith. What is the policy regarding placing neutrality tags on articles when their content is being debated? (Lowkeyvision (talk) 01:24, 7 March 2013 (UTC))

WP:CANVASS. I'm going to bed before I start thinking this person is trolling and begin to swear. - Sitush (talk) 01:26, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
I wouldn't touch this one with a ten-foot pole. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:31, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Hai

 Hello Anna Frodesiak, Eduemoni↑talk↓ has given you a shinning smiling star! You see, these things promote WikiLove and hopefully this has made your day better. Spread the Shinning Smiling Star whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or someone putting up with some stick at this time. Enjoy!
Thank you very much. I love the star. It reminds me of Don Hertzfeldt shorts. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:08, 8 March 2013 (UTC)


Notice

Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Click here[9]....William 15:37, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

List of sandwiches

Thank you, my friend. I'm always shopping at Flickr for images for those lists we look after.
Sure sandwiches gets hits, but still, List of pastries keeps doing better. :) Can people really like pastries more than sandwiches??? Actually, the List of pastries you started turned out very well, especially considering it was AfD at the beginning. Well done on that.
I started a bunch of other food lists, but most turned out to be lemons, however List of African dishes is starting to get visits, thanks to your filling in those descriptions. I bit off a bit more than I could chew starting those. You've reminded me that I should get back and expand them.
Hmmmm, so do you think we got all the prepared food lists? Are we missing anything? Best wishes. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:51, 11 March 2013 (UTC)


say what you mean

If you want to correct some error that I made, please, by all means, come right out and mention it specifically. Please don't hint at things when you are making me (or my work) your subject. I will not go on a hunt to correct an error, that I may or may not have made, if you don't bother to call it out. Jerome Sindaco 13:58, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

If you're referring to User talk:Jeromesindaco#Your recent edits, I provided the link to your edit. I was politely trying to explain that spaces are normally used with punctuation. I didn't mean to confuse or offend you. When text appears blue, that usually means that it can be clicked and that it is a link to somewhere. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:06, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

your defense of non-existant links

Please clarify your recent dictum to preserve non-existant links. I want to be perfectly clear on the policy of preserving non-existant links in the expectation that they will become articles. Jerome Sindaco 13:58, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Please see: Wikipedia:Redlinks#Dealing with existing red links
Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:06, 12 March 2013 (UTC)


Makers

Hi. I'm pretty sure that titles of works of art (such as films) are converted to lower case on Wikipedia per MOS:ALLCAPS. More to the point, most secondary sources call the film Makers, not MAKERS. I realize this is confusing when the creators of the film use all caps on their web pages, but I believe this is a common marketing technique used for film promotion. Viriditas (talk) 21:50, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Oh dear. Stupid marketing techniques! I'll get the page moved back again. I also changed a bunch of links. Should those be like the article title or reflect the marketing appearance? Thanks for pointing this out. Maybe I should reconsider my stance on never reading up ever about anything ever. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:23, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
My opinion is that the only place the title of the film should appear in upper case is on its own website. Viriditas (talk) 01:19, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
Done. Most are still a bit wonky:
Example: Christiane Amanpour Video produced by Makers: Women Who Make America
Should sort of be "produced by Makers", with a pipe to the article, but maybe not. I don't know if Makers is a standalone name. Anyway, that's the way I found it. Thanks again for catching that. Next time I'll spend the same 15 min. reading up. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:22, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
I've got some ideas for further expansion. Remember how you created those tables with images for list articles? I think we could use a similar table in the "Famous women" section, with perhaps a small paragraph composed of four to six sentences for each entry. Any interest in helping me? Viriditas (talk) 10:59, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
Not a bad idea at all. Four to six? That seems like a lot for an article that will only get 20 page visits a day. I'll check into the images to see what percentage are non-free. Do you think that if some have no image it would still be alright to have an image field? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:58, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, I was thinking only of the primary images (most if not all of which have free photos available) from the film. I'm guessing that this list includes women from the site only? I still need to finish watching it. I'm also trying to put together a synopsis on the talk page starting first with links. Viriditas (talk) 23:17, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
I'm not quite sure what you mean, but I started User:Anna Frodesiak/Green sandbox. I will try to find images where they are missing (5). There are probably none out there, but I will try to email them. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:58, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. There are at least three sets of names (and their corresponding images) connected to this topic. The primary names (and images) involve the people featured in the film. The secondary names (and images) are found in additional interviews only on the website. I believe there is now a third set of names (and images) connected with this project that involve non-celebrities, such as average Americans who are submitted for inclusion. Focusing on just the primary images is easiest because a) we have free images for most (if not all) of them, b) the names and images are easily found in the sources provided, and c) when we work in parity between primary (the film, website, interviews) and secondary sources (sources about the film, website, and interviews) we are working at our best. Viriditas (talk) 00:51, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
Ohhhhhhhhh, I see. I am still trying to get a copy to watch. I haven't seen it yet. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:45, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
No worries. The full film is free to watch on the website in three 1 hour segments. Viriditas (talk) 22:25, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
Unfortunately it's blocked here. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:30, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
Where's the iLove?
There should be other copies floating around. I'll get back to you on that. Viriditas (talk) 03:07, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
Alternate solution: if you have access to an iPhone or iPad, you can watch the first full episode on their mobile app.[10] I doubt that is blocked. To download the app on your preferred device, click here. To watch all of the episodes, click here. You may want to check if that link is blocked on your browser right now, as it might work. Viriditas (talk) 03:14, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
I don't have iAnything as I detest such devices and http://www.pbs.org's videos are blocked. I used to be able to watch those. Pity. Well, if you give me a list of the people for the table, I can strip out the others and add the table to the article. We then can start to add content, and hopefully others will too. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:36, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
Sorry to hear those are now blocked. I'll put the list together asap. So, tell me, why the hate for iPods/iPhones/iPads? As as fan of TNG, DS9, VOY and all the other variants, the notion of a Personal Access Display Device was always on my mind. When these shows were popular, the closest thing you could get was a MessagePad which wasn't all that great, but was a step up from the brick form factor, which was a pain to carry around! However, the era of touchscreens and slates has been wonderful, but sadly, is now coming to an end. I'm sure you'll be first in line for Google Glass!  :) Viriditas (talk) 02:03, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
I'm sure a torrent will become available soon for Makers.
As for iWaste, it's all of that. I hate talking on the phone in general, and I hate staring at small screens. There isn't a person in this country who, when alone, isn't staring at their stupid iPhone. They don't actually seem to be doing anything except flipping from one screen to another and back again. To me a phone is like a walkie-talkie: "Hello. Yes/No. Okay. Bye." The GoogleGlasses seems alright, but I imagine it will create a world of people who sit there like zombies saying "Flip left. Flip back again. Flip left..." Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:19, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
Oh, I totally agree. With all the tourists we've been getting from mainland China lately, it's amazing to see them glued to these huge phones. This lady yesterday looked like she was carrying a picture frame around! :) However, I'm all about changing the way people use technology. For example, in restaurants, a ringing phone is like a crying child—they both disrupt the experience. BTW, when was the last time you used voice mail? :) That's right, very few people use standard phone technology. Instead, we see them use their phone for e-mail (which is decreasing in usage), Skype, FaceTime, and social networking. Like you, I would like to see the experience become transparent and pervasive, where the technology simply disappears or blends into the natural environment in clothing, walls, streets, and even in mid-air (light activated touch). So, I agree, too much free time is spent interacting with devices to get information instead of interacting with the world that has information overlaid on top of it. Viriditas (talk) 02:29, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
Sure, if it blends in, then fine. But all those tourists staring at phones seems to defeat the purpose of going to such a lovely place. Such a waste of good eyeballs. With so many beautiful things, eyeballs should be used for seeing....or if you're a goat, some sort of Mediterranean dish. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:45, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
List

(in progress)

Should I add the table with the above 4 items to the article? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:04, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Added with content from the sources in the article or just as decorative images? Viriditas (talk) 01:37, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
Wouldn't a table with an empty notes field would a little strange? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:38, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
Yep. I'm going to watch part two right now so I can help you expand the list. Viriditas (talk) 02:40, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
Splendid. (I'm pleased we're back to statements instead of questions. We were starting to sound like rabbis for a second there.) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:45, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
Why is this night different from all other nights? Heh. Coincidentally, there's a skit like that between Guy Noir ("one man is still trying to find the answers to life's persistent questions" - from A Prairie Home Companion) and a guy who is looking for his lost dog, but can only speak in questions. :) (listen here) Viriditas (talk) 03:03, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks! It tried to open in RealPlayer!!!! I think I actually said "Oh NO!!!" out loud. I didn't know that even still existed. Anyway, listening to it now in VLC. Nice music so far. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:11, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
Hmmm...looks like their archive might be hosed. Guy Noir is supposed to appear at 45:24, but I'm not sure if that link works or not. Viriditas (talk) 03:18, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
OK, I found the problem. Those links are bad. The new, updated links are on the main site. This should work: [11] Sorry about that. Viriditas (talk) 03:21, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
Thank you. I'm listening to it now. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:25, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
I'm going to start part three in the next hour. I think we should trim the list to essential people at some point. Viriditas (talk) 01:59, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
Let me know when you have a final list for the table, and I'll get the basics into the Notes field. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:49, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
OK, I'll let you know. Please keep an eye on User:Viriditas/sandbox as well and feel free to update that page. Viriditas (talk) 04:24, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
I'm watching. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:06, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
I don't know what your free time is like, but the sandbox article is ready for a list of eight names: Betty Friedan, Katherine Switzer, Lorena Weeks, Barbara Burns, Sandra Day O'Connor, Gloria Steinem, Marlo Thomas, and Phyllis Schlafly. If you could start with just those eight, we could go from there. Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 00:19, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
Actually, just go ahead and add it to the main article, Makers: Women Who Make America. Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 02:08, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
Okay, I added the 8 names in a table. I am a bit short of time at the moment, but will chip in with the descriptions and try to find missing images soon. Sorry my input has been so lacking on this one. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:36, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
No worries. You're always busy on the weekends anyway, so I'm surprised you even had time to add it. Viriditas (talk) 23:46, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
I might be doing a lot of off-wiki these weekdays too. Again, sorry to not be helpful. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:00, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
Check the sandbox for what needs to be done. I'm going to work on Gloria Steinem right now. Viriditas (talk) 00:21, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

黑黑

Someone just used this citation to add this text:

"Heihei (黑黑), a black dog gave evidence to police to identify the killer of his old mistress. He was buried with her then."

...to the List of individual dogs#Faithful dogs#Faithful after master's death.

Could you help improve it, or interest a Chinese person in doing so? 黑黑 looks like an excellent addition to the list, but the annotation isn't as clear as it could be. I checked the citation to get more information to make it clearer but it's in Chinese and Google Translate doesn't help me much.

Specifically, how is a dog able to give evidence to police to identify the killer of his mistress?

Thanks! Chrisrus (talk) 07:07, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

I'll take a look at it now. I've been avoiding it while trying to think how to handle it. Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:49, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
I'm afraid I can't check into it yet. I need to back up to my off-site hard disc before I visit any unfamiliar websites. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:55, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

hey

Sorry for coming out of nowhere with this .. but has anyone ever talked to you about an RfA? To say it outright, I would be honored to nominate you. — Ched :  ?  08:31, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

It's been suggested before; seems like several people (including me) think Anna would make a good admin. bobrayner (talk) 08:57, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
Thank you both. I just don't know. Is RfA still broken? And besides, what's the difference? Admins are right around the corner for block requests and such when I need. I sort of do some of what admins do in a non-tool-bearing kind of way anyhow. I try to help folks out. I talk to vandals and ask them to behave, etc. What would be the practical difference? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:36, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:06, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
Don't blame you in the least, but it's an open invitation. — Ched :  ?  21:16, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
I am very grateful for the offer, and one day I may take you up on it. It also makes me feel good that you think I'd make a good admin. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:49, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
  • I've hinted this to Anna previously as well. Hopefully she knows I would be happy to nominate her as well. I figure that eventually she will, when she is ready. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 00:34, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Food articles

Hello Anna, I read your (archived) reply about the various food lists. Perhaps we can collaborate again, as we did on List of pastries, sometime in the future. List of sandwiches has some room remaining for improvement, as do most Wikipedia articles. I'll keep in touch as time allows; concerted efforts with even just 2 editors collaborating can serve to significantly improve articles.

Here's some food / food-related articles I've recently expanded; feel free to further improve them:

Anyway, just some stuff for you to peruse. Happy editing! Northamerica1000(talk) 11:49, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi there. You are very productive, my friend!
Interesting selection. Okara (food) sounds like something I might have a crack at. I'm trying to find a tofu factory around here. I want to take a series of photos showing the process. That would mean a good image of okara right in its rawest form.
You did a great job expanding those. The before and after shows quite a transformation. Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:51, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the kind words. A gallery of fresh images in the okara article would be a great improvement. So, if you find a tofu factory and they have okara (which is likely), and you're able to take pictures of it, go for it! Cheers, Northamerica1000(talk) 05:58, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Food list articles

Hello Anna: Per previous discussion, here's a list of food list articles that could use improvements, ordered by improvement ideas they would benefit from. These are culled from the first part of Template:Lists of prepared foods, “By type.” (Additional articles not in the template are also present.) Stay tuned for part 2 in the near future, which will be assessed from articles in the second part of the template, under “By origin.”

Expand descriptions

Needs more images

Expand

Improve links to other articles (wikify)

Copy editing and general layout

Conversion to table format

Obviously, shorter articles here require less time and effort to improve with tables.

Of course, these things take time, so these lists simply serve as a summary and starting point for improvements and potential collaboration. Perhaps beginning with the shorter articles and those that require a lesser amount of improvements would be the easiest way to start. I'm not familiar with your availability regarding time for editing, (mine varies lately), but please feel free to suggest articles for collaboration. Cheers, Northamerica1000(talk) 08:50, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Update: I've converted List of bacon substitutes to table format and expanded it with more entries. Feel free to add more entries if they're available. Northamerica1000(talk) 09:53, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
Update: I've significantly expanded List of hamburgers, and it still has some room for expansion. Northamerica1000(talk) 01:04, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
Okay thanks. I will do what I can here and there.
I would like to move this whole section to one of my sandboxes if that's okay. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:37, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
Feel free (after all, it's your page!) I have a copy of all this I'm working from. Feel free to contact me anytime if you're interested in collaboration; the longer articles would definitely be improved in a more timely manner with 2 working on them. Cheers, Northamerica1000(talk) 01:35, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Even better. If you track it in one of your sandboxes, I can keep an eye on it from there. Plese let me know. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:00, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
The list is currently on my talk page, and I just update it there. I'll let you know if its moved to a sandbox in the future (along with a link, of course). Cheers, Northamerica1000(talk) 02:06, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
I really think a sandbox would be useful considering that it's quite long term. I've started User:Anna Frodesiak/Gold sandbox. Please consider it a headquarters if you like. I won't delete it. You can move it to one of your sandboxes if you want. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:18, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Anna Frodesiak. You have new messages at Yash!'s talk page.
Message added 14:52, 16 March 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

You might be watchlisting the page...but just... :) TheStrikeΣagle 14:52, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I would have missed that had you not pointed it out. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:39, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
👍 Like That's a funny note. Train station bread omelets are yummy though. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv2XwkzqTiw — Ganeshk (talk) 22:53, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
Too bad youtube is blocked here. As for train station food, I try to avoid all of it, everywhere. That pretty much goes for hotel food too. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:00, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Girl with a Pearl Earring

Hi. I was wondering what your thoughts are on Girl with a Pearl Earring. I may fly out to see it in San Francisco[12] and help work on the article. Have you seen it before? Can you assist in the translation of any documents? Viriditas (talk) 23:48, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

I never saw it in person, but I love it. What other paintings will be on tour? Is there a list? I see the link, but no list.
And if you mean transalte from Dutch, no, I would be almost useless. My Dutch was always bad. They squeeze way to many words into each sentence. Somebody should talk to them about that. Of course, their answer would be really, really long. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:00, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
Heh. The entire show is called "Dutch Paintings from the Mauritshuis"[13] See that link for more info. BTW, if you go to this link you can see the girl "blink" several times. :) Viriditas (talk) 00:04, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
Update: depending on the host, there are between 35-48 paintings in the exhibition.[14] That link names several of the paintings. Viriditas (talk) 00:19, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Pbp breaking our agreement

Please see here. Pbp has three times broken our agreement, and he continues to harass me at my talk page. GabeMc (talk|contribs) 23:49, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

I was under the impression that our gentleman's agreement included Gabe not calling me a "type A control freak". What's the point of having a gentleman's agreement if Gabe just personally attacks me on a project's talkpage? pbp 23:58, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
The agreement was to stay off each others talk pages, it isn't complicated, so I'm not sure what has confused you. In nearly every thread you have started you have thrown a few jabs yourself, so yeah, you had that one coming, and it bothered you because I'm right, you have absolutely no business trimming a list of things that 1) you seem to despise, and 2) you seem to have little to no knowledge of the topic. GabeMc (talk|contribs) 00:05, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
There's a difference between saying you don't understand policy or a topic, and accusing someone of being an impotent control freak. One's a personal attack and one ain't. By your logic, you also have "one of those coming", but by the Wikipedia community's logic, nobody ever has those coming. If you don't understand where criticism stops and where personal attacks begin, Gabe, it's time for you to leave Wikipedia. pbp 00:14, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
Dream on. I could (and will if need be) dig up at least a dozen "personal attacks" from you directed at me. Also, I never called you impotent ... paging Dr. Freud ... GabeMc (talk|contribs)
" I could (and will if need be) dig up at least a dozen 'personal attacks' from you directed at me". Once again proof that you have no idea what constitutes a personal attack and what doesn't... pbp 00:21, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
As Anna's humble servant, may I please be the first to say: "let the head clunkings commence!" Viriditas (talk) 01:02, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
Indeed. I'll be Viriditas' co-clunker.

Jeez Louise!

I don't know what our policy is on letting 6-year-olds edit, but you two might just set a precedent. If you two were here in my care, not only would there be clunkings, but you'd both enter a world of sweeping, dusting, weeding, and generally tiptoeing about for a good long while! Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:43, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

List of Indian snack foods

Update: I'm currently working on adding tables, images & descriptions to the List of Indian snack foods article. It's a longer one, so it will take some time. Feel free to pitch in if you have the time, interest, energy, etc. Sincerely, Northamerica1000(talk) 08:58, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

As I am having trouble accessing enwp, I will probably only be touching articles that others aren't working on very much. Edit conflicts leave me stuck. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:37, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
Update: As of this post, it's all in table format, entries with available images available are filled-in (I'll still double-check in Commons in the future), and some descriptions are filled-in. There are many empty description fields remaining at this time. Northamerica1000(talk) 12:48, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
 Done. A few new entries have also been added. Northamerica1000(talk) 06:17, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
At this time, I'll stop updating here. If interested in checking things out, updates will occur on my talk page. In the event the page is moved to a sandbox page, I'll advise. Cheers, Northamerica1000(talk) 06:21, 20 March 2013 (UTC)


From Keepcalmangela

Hey Anna, are you being block from editing wikipedia or seeing the pages on wikipedia? And, because I'm still a bit new to wikipedia, I was wondering how I would know if you started a thread on my talk page. Keepcalmangela (talk) 01:58, 23 March 2013 (UTC) Angela

Hi Angela. I can see everything, but only 30% of the time. If I post at your talk page, you will see it plain as day. Welcome again, and happy editing. Let me know if you ever need help. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:34, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Welcome back!

Gnome's House
Please enjoy this delectable creation from Chef Britt Culey of Coquette Patisserie. This "Gnome's House" is made from a chocolate and vanilla log with elderberry and chestnut mousse, pistachio and almond moss, elderberry gelée, candied chestnut, and a marzipan "magic" mushroom. Viriditas (talk) 10:23, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
Thank you! It looks fantastic. I hear it comes with a shotglass of insulin. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:33, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
For some reason, when I first saw the image, the color scheme reminded me of one of your drawings. Viriditas (talk) 00:13, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

From Jay sonar

No its a K12 school page. Jay sonar (talk) 13:04, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Replied at your talk page. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:07, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

You might like to look in

(or not, as the case might be...). Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Perennial tea ceremony - I've read the article three times and still can't make sense of what it is. Peridon (talk) 15:38, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

I too cannot understand it. Maybe it's just something some corporation cooked up. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 15:18, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Let's have a party!

Hi Anna, You might enjoy these photos of my daughter Judy's party foods: [15]

Lovely!! Anna Frodesiak (talk) 15:15, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

List of tapas

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Oh no! They finally got me. I've got to destroy these hard disks and get to the airport, quick!! Anna Frodesiak (talk) 16:20, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
That's a good list Anna! After my girls finished college I treated them to a trip to Spain and we stayed in a truck stop just outside of Toledo for two days. In the evening the waiters put out the tapas--dozens of little terra cotta dishes about five inches across. Because of that experience I got the idea that that is how tapas must be served--perhaps wrong idea? Eating is a lost art in America. Gandydancer (talk) 16:48, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
I should go through the list and make the stuff and then put a photo in Wikipedia. Stay tuned... Gandydancer (talk) 16:56, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
Ah, Spain. One of my favourite countries. Such nice food. You know there's a tradition in Spain: if you throw the toothpick on the floor when they're not looking, you don't have to pay for that tapas. Kidding. I would never do that.
Yes images! That would be great. Commons has lots of photos, but it's missing a lot. Maybe I'll ask at Project Spain about which are popular enough to make the list.
By the way, when you were in Toledo, did you see any signs that said "Ohio", because if you did I have bad news. Sometimes they fly around in circles till you get dizzy then set down at some tiny airport, the guy's wife shows up in red and black, dances for a bit, then their kid arrives with a tray of cocktail weenies with toothpicks in them. The scam is as old as coal. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 17:24, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Food list articles

Greetings Anna: I've created a checklist page for food list articles improvement ideas, located at User:Northamerica1000/Food list articles. As we discussed before, feel free to work from this list, and feel free to update it if you complete any of the tasks on it. Sincerely, Northamerica1000(talk) 23:52, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Perfect. May I modify that page? I would like to add the two new ones. Also, consider not adding cheese lists to tables. I had a go at that once and bailed out. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:53, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
Feel absolutely free to edit the page, add entries, etc. Just please sign after each of your entries there so they're distinguishable from mine! Yep, the list of cheeses article is quite long, but maybe someday it can be enhanced with tables and images that are slightly smaller than the standard 120px (due to it's significant length). Northamerica1000(talk) 02:15, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
P.S. - I'm currently working on List of soul foods and dishes. Northamerica1000(talk) 02:18, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
Splendid. Thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:28, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for updating the list! Northamerica1000(talk) 02:39, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
See one of my food photos at Saurkraut. It is the two jars of homemade kraut. Just like the little red hen, I grew it first. The Asian food articles are just super-good! I use them all the time for ideas. Gandydancer (talk) 02:33, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
Good stuff. Northamerica1000(talk) 02:39, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
Nice photo. They look delicious. Gives me a craving for a Reuben sandwich.
I love your photo gallery. Twelve-week old goldendoodle pup looks like a stuffed toy and I love the 3 frogs (who all look like they play the banjo for some reason).
Consider putting a slice of paper under the object and curving it up the background as in File:Yili Group milk 1 litre tetra pack.jpg. (That's a crappy photo, but you get the picture.) I really ought to get a better camera one of these days.
I also use these dish articles a lot for cooking ideas. It's a pretty good encyclopedia. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:46, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Update: List of soul foods and dishes has been entirely converted to table format. It would still benefit from some expansion in the descriptions sections. Northamerica1000(talk) 03:12, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Sharpening

Is that what you meant? John of Cromer in Philippines (talk) mytime= Thu 08:41, wikitime= 00:41, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure about the sandwiches of images. Others may remove or move it per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Images#Location which says "...avoid sandwiching text between two images that face each other...". But, the effort is much appreciated. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:53, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Thank you for correcting my (disastrous) mistake on the WP:RA page. I was multitasking and totally looked over it. Thanks for correcting my mistake! Touch Of Light (Talk / Contributions) 02:49, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
Thank you very much. But I wouldn't call that mistake disastrous. I do worse than that every day. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:24, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

List of snack foods

I've been working on the List of snack foods article, and I'm preparing to convert it to table format in the near future. I've pruned it a little bit, omitting specific brands of snack foods to prevent the list from becoming too long and indiscriminate, in which all brands of snack foods on the planet could theoretically be included on it. (I've initiated a discussion on the article's talk page about this). Rather, I've changed the format of the article to reflect categorical-level types of listings. Feel free to pitch-in if you have the time, interest, etc. Cheers, Northamerica1000(talk) 21:14, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

I'd be happy to convert it to table format. And if you do want me to do it, tell me how you want the fields handled.Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:02, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
Hello Anna: That would be really great! Many of these foods have more than one origin, so basically, this type of format would suffice:
Name Image Description

It would be nice to retain the various sections and subsections in the article to maintain the differentiation for the various types of foods.

I'm preparing to log off and I'm done working on the article for now, so you can do the table conversion at your leisure if you're currently available (no edit conflicts that way). I really appreciate the offer, and look forward to seeing the conversion if you currently have the time to do it. Cheers, Northamerica1000(talk) 00:55, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

I'm happy to convert anything you like to tables. I can do them easily. The thing is, I think that making lots of small tables in a single list is less useful than one big table. The reason is sortability. Of course, there are exceptions.
When one table is made, we sacrifice section headings that existed, unless we want to add them as a column. Sometimes the section headings don't quite make sense as a column. So, each case should be considered. Please advise in each case. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:05, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
Hello again: I've been thinking this over, and I was thinking that the article would look nice with a format similar to List of snack foods by country, since there are many various types of foods and food categories on the List of snack foods page. The rub about one long alphabetized table is that there will be various different types of foods next to one another that may appear as somewhat arbitrary. For example, Macadamia will have Milkshake listed below it, etc. Maintaining sections and subsections also allows the hatnotes in the article to remain in place per each section, which is a bonus in my opinion. However, I try to always remain flexible, so please reply at your convenience regarding one long table versus the notion above. Cheers, Northamerica1000(talk) 22:42, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
Okay. That makes sense. So, there are seven main headings. Do you want to keep the seven headings and make tables within like:

==Savory snacks==

  • Bars
  • Bread/sandwiches
  • Cheese
  • Chips/Crisps
  • Crackers/Biscuits
  • Meat-based
  • Noodles
And make each table like:
Cheese
Name Image Description
Oaxaca cheese imagehere a semi-hard string cheese from Mexico.
or
Cheese
Name Image Description
Oaxaca cheese imagehere a semi-hard string cheese from Mexico.
or

===Cheese===

Name Image Description
Oaxaca cheese imagehere a semi-hard string cheese from Mexico.
Anyway you like it. Something completely different is fine too. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:13, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi Anna: I like option 3 because it will retain information in the table of contents, and retains an area for the hatnotes. Northamerica1000(talk) 03:35, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Good thinking. Okay. I'll do it soon. I'll add an {{underconstruction}} to prevent edit conflicts. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:38, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Almost forgot, also of note, I like the notion of each subsection (info. underneath the header3 sections) having its own table, to retain the organization that currently exists within the article. Northamerica1000(talk) 03:39, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Of course. That's exactly what we discussed above. :) Like this, right:
==Savory snacks==
  • Bars
  • Bread/sandwiches
  • Cheese
  • Chips/Crisps
  • Crackers/Biscuits
  • Meat-based
  • Noodles
With each of the above bulleted items having a table, right?
Cooooooool. Just wanted to clarify. Northamerica1000(talk) 03:45, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Oh, and I'm about to tablize List of rice dishes, okay? :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:41, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Awesome! Northamerica1000(talk) 03:46, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Here's the recent article traffic statistics for List of snack foods: here. I predict that after conversion to table format, and the addition of descriptions, the page hits there will significantly increase. Northamerica1000(talk) 03:45, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Nice hits. Oh, and I can sort that by origin but keep it as one big table. I'm talking about List of rice dishes of course. Thoughts? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:49, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Ha ha, I just edit conflicted and was going to post: "Is this about List of rice dishes, or List of snack foods? (seems like the former...)" Give me a few minutes to check out the article and reply... Northamerica1000(talk) 03:58, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Seems that sorting by origin would be functional at rice dishes. Adding an origin column would be in order. Would this retain an alphabetical formatting? Northamerica1000(talk) 04:01, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Well, we almost always add the origin column. It's the initial sorting state that can be by origin. Visitors will still be able to click the item heading and it will sort by item. We can make an invisible comment asking for new items to be added to the right spot (not alphabetical but grouped with others of the same origin). Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:12, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Sounds like a good idea and an interesting way to organize content. Go for it! Northamerica1000(talk) 04:16, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Okay. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:17, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Actually, I'm just thinking now that we should sort of just preserve the a-z. Future additions will probably just land anywhere, plus many items are common to two or more nations, so it wouln't be as precise as alphasorting. Okay? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:25, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Well, that makes sense too! Northamerica1000(talk) 04:51, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
It will look pretty sharp either way, but yep, alphabetical often makes for clear organization. Northamerica1000(talk) 04:59, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Sure enough, List of rice dishes looks great now! It's no longer alphabetical, but people can sort on the name column to do so. Nice work! Northamerica1000(talk) 05:04, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

You're right. I lost the alpha. Don't worry. In a day or two I will run it through Excel and sort it. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:07, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for alphabetizing it! Northamerica1000(talk) 05:14, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Happy to do it. It only took a sec. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:28, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Update: I've populated most of List of rice dishes with images. There are still some entries that lack images at this time, though. Northamerica1000(talk) 16:23, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
My goodness, that was a lot of work. You really should let me do the images. I can add about 50 in twenty minutes. Anyway, great work. It looks very nice. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 16:43, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
I kind of took my time doing it, and was picky, sometimes using images other than those in the linked articles. Northamerica1000(talk) 17:03, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Fair enough. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 17:16, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Oh dear. You've gone table happy. Well, it is very easy to read now. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:25, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
That's the point, going table happy! Not really (April Fools!), just an easier format for readability. Also, it's been renamed to User:Northamerica1000/Food articles. Northamerica1000(talk) 02:49, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

List of snack foods

An idea: I was thinking that we could skip converting all of the entries within the Natural snacks section in the article to table format, because the entries are rather generic and don't particularly need to be expanded upon (e.g. information about cultivars, genus, species, etc.) Simply leaving this section as-is may be a better option. Northamerica1000(talk) 16:27, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

I've begun the table conversion process for some sections. Feel free to pitch-in if you have the time. Cheers, Northamerica1000(talk) 20:57, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
Tell me which you want converted to tables and I'll do it. But, I'll leave filling in descriptions to you because I really should work on List of hors d'oeuvre and List of potato dishes. I started those and ought to follow up.
By the way, I usually paraphrase the description from the associated article. I know I can simply copy paste and attribute in the edit summary, but I think visitors would be disappointed to go to the article for further info and see that the lede has been copied verbatim. Your thoughts? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:14, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
It just occurred to me that if I do copy paste and wait 3 years, it probably won't be verbatim any longer. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:16, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
For List of snack foods, I'd like to to convert everything to tables (per sections, as we already discussed) except for the Natural snacks section, which doesn't really need a table. Regarding c/p summaries, I think they are useful provided that they provide just a summary of what's in an entry's main article. This serves to present a general overview of the topic, and if people want to read more, they can then go to the main article. This sort of serves as a hook. For short articles, I try to use shorter or abbreviated descriptions in the list articles. I find that utilizing the lead as a summary is rather useful, because that's what lead's typically do. However, I try to avoid using the entire lead, and rather, just use parts of them, as well as other parts from articles, just to summarize key points. It is my theory that if descriptions are too lacking, readers may possibly not be very interested in reading them and just view the images, whereas those that provide some key points may generate more interest in the topics. Northamerica1000(talk) 23:34, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
I suppose you're right. After all, the article's wording would be quite good, plus it may have a few references to help protect the list article's description if copied over. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:49, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

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Like email harvesting? :p ¦ Reisio (talk) 02:08, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
That was a horrible thing to say, as was this. That person was asking about 1 person's email, and that 1 person's other emails. Nobody said anything about email harvesting. You should assume good faith. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:47, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

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Like email harvesting? :p ¦ Reisio (talk) 02:08, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

YOu know perfectly well how to post at someone's talk. Use talkback or the like. Posting my signature like that gives the appearance that I started that thread at my talk and you replied.

Looking at your history, I suggest that you make edits that are in better form. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:42, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

If you’d actually looked at my history (not that I blame you for not doing so, it’d be tedious), you’d know that this is how I’ve managed Wikipedia user talk page discussions for twelve years. Guess I’m not up on what more recent users are using, but nor do I feel I need to be; wikis historically don’t really lend themselves to this type of discussion well. You initiated a conversation with me, I’m sorry if my response wasn’t exactly what you wanted. ¦ Reisio (talk) 20:17, 3 April 2013 (UTC)


Tables

Thanks for performing the conversion to tables at List of snack foods! Northamerica1000(talk) 17:01, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Happy to do it. Which is next for table conversion? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 17:03, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
Check out the Convert to table format section at the checklist I created and take your pick! Northamerica1000(talk) 17:07, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
I'm looking at List of dishes using coconut milk. How should I handle it? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 17:10, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
Well, if it isn't too much fuss, I'd just convert all to tables. Oftentimes Google Books can provide sources that exist beyond just recipes, particularly for historic and cultural dishes. Northamerica1000(talk) 18:12, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
No fuss at all. I will get started. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 18:13, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
Actually, doesn't the origin column mean we don't need lots of separate tables? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 18:17, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
Hello again: Since it's organized by origin, I'd do the tables by section, like at List of snack foods, and omit the origin section. No need to repeat the same locations repeatedly. Northamerica1000(talk) 18:24, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
Okay. Should I omit the origin column entirely. List of dishes using coconut milk#Indian section is the only one that might need it, but that info could go into the description column. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 18:28, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
The List of dishes using coconut milk#Indian section is a tricky one, because there are several dishes that are within subtopics of general Indian cuisine. Maybe an origin section in the table for this section would be functional. I'll leave it to your discretion! Northamerica1000(talk) 18:32, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Update: I've alphabetized everything at List of dishes using coconut milk in each section. Northamerica1000(talk) 19:58, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Update: I converted the first section in the article. I noticed that you have added the Inuse template, so I'll stay off the article while you're working on it! Cheers, Northamerica1000(talk) 20:05, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Done. I didn't do the India section because it doesn't really contain dishes, so I don't know how to handle it. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:38, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for donating your time to improve the encyclopedia. The List of dishes using coconut milk#Indian section may very well be just fine the way it is! Northamerica1000(talk) 22:32, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Food list articles

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Thanks so much for all of your work and collaboration on the various food list articles located at my checklist of food articles. It is greatly appreciated! Best regards, Northamerica1000(talk) 20:23, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
Thank you kindly!! Actually, I'm doing the easy stuff. You're doing the legwork and the organization. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:38, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

New section added to list

I've added a new section at the food article checklist, titled Missing descriptions. Northamerica1000(talk) 22:28, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Very useful, thank you. I hope it's okay, but I swapped in pink because I couldn't see the bold. The code, as you see, is just

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Table at Bats of Canada

Hi there. I noticed you updated the table at Bats of Canada. It's certainly a visual improvement over how I had previously styled it, but it introduces a problem. Readers with red-green colour blindness will not be able to interpret it, and have no other way of obtaining that information from the table. I was thinking that instead we could use check and cross marks, such as File:True.svg and File:False.svg. I think this would retain the visual distinctiveness you introduced, while ensuring that the colour blind can also read the table. What do you think? Mindmatrix 15:42, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Clever bunny. :) I never considered that. Now, best of boths worlds. Cheers, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:06, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
I left a bolder set in the history, but I just compared both side by side, and I think your set is easiest on the eyes and on the brain in terms of colour separation. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:08, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
Oh, and nice job on the article!! :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:12, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) I reverted to the other set since I think it's more prevalent on the wiki and thus more consistent, and I also took out the crosses to make it less cluttered. Feel free to revert either change if either of you don't think it's an improvement. wctaiwan (talk) 04:02, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
Small potatoes but maybe the red offers necessary contrast, and exemplifies the "nots". Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:47, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
I'm happy with either; both are better than the "Yes" and "No" I had originally used. Mindmatrix 10:00, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
Ok. I still lean toward showing the red. There's a visual balance in both colours being present. It's almost a neutrality thing. Showing where they're not is equally important to where there are. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:08, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
Alright, ticks and crosses it is, then. wctaiwan (talk) 11:22, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
How about little pics of jalapenos and frogs? I could take a picture of Struggles (my frog), although he's not very green. He's a pleasant olive colour. I asked if it would be okay with him and he said "berrrrb-berrrrb" which is frog for "I ordered a caterpillar half an hour ago. What kind of joint are you running?" Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:32, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

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Protocol for user who repeatedly deletes article?

Hi, I hope this is the correct place to ask this question, but a link to your talk page was on the site. If the wrong place, please advise as to where I should address this issue. A new user has twice deleted a biographical article Harold S. Koplewicz in the past two days and replaced it with a personal promotional piece provided by the article subject. I and another user have started new talk threads related to this to initiate a discussion with that user but our communication is ignored by the user. Any ideas? Pennphdabd (talk) 04:40, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

It seems like you're in a dialogue with him, so I will let you resolve things. Let me know if it doesn't work out. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:20, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

I have filed a noticeboard request for assistance at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Harold_S._Koplewicz, since this article violates several BLP standards, and is being edited by three identities which exist only to edit articles on this one topic over an extended period of time. Jacksonjones1972 (talk) 21:52, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

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Hi. Thank you for joining WikiProject Breaktast. As you stated on our article, you can provide images of Chinese breakfast upon request? That would be wonderful, as there are many articles within our scope that greatly need those. Specifically, if possible of course, could you provide us with photos of traditional Chinese breakfast, as well as photos of breakfast cereal in China? Thank you very much, and I am looking forward to your response. Coolboygcp (talk) 19:12, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi. Sure. Could you say what images we need? Also, I don't know anyone who eats cereal, and nobody eats it in public. Would an image of supermarket shelves full of cereals be okay? Mostly, these products are oats and other such grains to which one adds hot water. Would there be label copyright issues? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 19:27, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
Yes there would be label copyright issues. Please do not expect Coolboygcp to assess or describe the label copyright issues to you. Several images uploaded as part of this project have been deleted for copyright violation already, within the last few days. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 20:51, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
Oh dear. I had been wondering about that. Here are some images from from my Commons uploads:
Should I speedy them? Can they exist as non-free at enwp? I'm so sorry. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:13, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
I have dealt with the same issue prior. The commons photos should be deleted immediately, and uploaded onto Wikipedia as non-free images, also when filling out he copyright information for the images, list your sources, the company who makes the products depicted in the images, and what article(s) they will be in. I don't really know Demiurge well, and I doubt he knows me well either. I have had images deleted due to copyright violations in the past, but have since uploaded non-free images correctly, and they have not been deleted.
I will speedy all 4 at once, keeping copies on my computer.
I will not upload them as non-free to enwp right now. If it's like a logo, it must be low resolution, and for a specific article to identify the company. So, a logo image should do, and there is no justification for them being at enwp. That's my guess until I get info to the contrary. Best to err on the side of caution. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:23, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Regarding the images, photos of cereal on shelves is perfectly fine. Also, if you could get some photos of traditional Chinese breakfasts, that would be great as well. Additionally, photos of Chinese Nesquik is greatly needed as well. There would be copyright concerns regarding cereal and products thst are in the packaging, however, as long as you follow the correct process for non-free images use yoy should be perfectly alright. Thank you for everything, and I hope that you can take some photos for this WikiProject so we can improve the quality of articles within then scope of our WikiProject, as well as Wikipedia at large. Coolboygcp (talk) 23:25, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Products on shelves, I must assume, have the same restrictions and discussed above. Again, that's my guess until I get info to the contrary.
Out of curiosity, I see now that you are quite new. How do you know all of this about images? Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:23, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Update

After a discussion at IRC, it seems that images of products on store shelves is dodgy. If you can show me some policies that allow it, fine. Until then, I won't touch it. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:14, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
And as you can see, all 4 images are now deleted. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:15, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
Hello Anna: Check out Commons:De minimis for more information about copyright-protected logos, labels, etc. as per Wikimedia Commons' official policy. Regarding non-free content on Wikipedia, check out (if you haven't already seen them) Wikipedia:Non-free content and Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline. Basically, Commons forbids non-free content unless it is de minimis, but non-free content is allowable on Wikipedia as long as the guidelines and policies are followed. Northamerica1000(talk) 04:01, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
Exactly, this was my point exactly, thank you Northamerica1000. Additionally, I am not quite new. This account is almost two years old, and I have other accounts that are much older.Coolboygcp (talk) 09:38, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
Coolboygcp: Yes, okay. I'm walking away from this one.
Northamerica1000: Thanks for the De minimis info. That was useful, and fits with common sense. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:36, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

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Sima Slope Island

Yo! 好久不见. Any objections to moving Sima Slope Island to Simapo Island? This is in line with consistent hybrid pinyin combinations such that we don't have Bei Capital for Beijing and Hai Estuary for Haikou :) Best ► Philg88 ◄ talk 22:51, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Phil! Yes, that's fine. Please make the move. Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:42, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, move done. BTW, have you used Open Street Map? I've spent quite a bit of time improving the mapping of Haikou and beyond so if you need a decent map of Haidian Island ... Best, ► Philg88 ◄ talk 07:28, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
Sounds great. I will work on an upload soon. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:25, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
The map looks great. Do I just use screen capture software? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:46, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
I would like to add to commons a whole Haikou map with as many bells and whistles and possible. I would like to add a map to the Haikou article with A, B, C, D, etc. added and a caption showing what they refer to. Suggestions? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:50, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

No screen capture required :) You can export SVG data directly from OSM. Zoom to what you want then click export. If you want to do a location map for Haikou then as per guidelines it should be a template that can do positions with an associated map. Just so happens I know how to do that so let me know what you want :) Best ► Philg88 ◄ talk 09:44, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

I would love it if you could do it because I have no clue what all that means. :) An Evergreen Park map, and a Haikou map would be great!! :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:08, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

New article

Check out List of breakfast foods, which I've also added to the food list at User:Northamerica1000/Food articles under the "Convert to table format" section. Feel free to improve the article, add listings, etc. Also, congrats on making Editor of the Week! Cheers, Northamerica1000(talk) 01:47, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Here's another: List of breakfast beverages. Already formatted, but could use expansion with new entries and more information about the beverages in relation to breakfast. Northamerica1000(talk) 11:50, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
I will take a look soon. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:25, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Image uploading

Hi Anna,

Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alampur,_Mahbubnagar&direction=prev&oldid=549627227

I am new to editing a page on wikipedia. I have recently tried to add a picture in the info section of the above page. And apparently you have changed it back to the previous version. Its my own image that I uploaded on flickr and attributed creative commons license with share alike. Could you please let me know of how i can upload the image again and what are the things i need to take care while doing it. Also I couldn't understand what the 'Category..' is regarding the images, could you please give a heads up about these things so that they dont get deleted in future.

Thanks ArunPiximaze (talk) 16:01, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Don't worry, my friend. Your image is safe. I just removed it from the article. I did that because, although beautiful, your image didn't convey as much information as the previous one.
There are two ways to understand image categories:
1. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Categories
2. Look at pictures at Commons, click the categories at the bottom, explore for a few minutes. All will become clear.
In a nutshell, categories are like little matchboxes placed along a tree's roots. Your image goes into a matchbox that is as close to the tip of a root as possible.
You can add your image to lots of matchboxes, but travelling from the trunk to a tip, you should find your image in only one matchbox. Category "Animals" is near the trunk, and further down is category "Penguins". So, a picture of a penguin would not have the category "Animals". Always take a look at the category to see if there is a "child" category to be as close to the tip as possible.
A penguin sitting on a bar stool could go into categories "Penguins" and "Bar stools" and "Sitting animals".
Of course, this is just an example because a penguin could never get up on a bar stool. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:21, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

good feedback

Thank you for your comment. It'd nice to know you guys are out there guarding against screwups. Yes, I've been reticent to alter an article after I botched that one and got a speedy deletion. No, you guys weren't heavy handed, it's my problem and I'm working on it. Your comment will help me work on it, I plan to edit the next one I want to comment on!

Pb8bije6a7b6a3w (talk) 02:02, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Never worrry about screwing up. I screw up all the time. Everything can be undone with the click of a button. It's about doing more good than harm. :) If you want to create an article that will never be deleted, try: Wikipedia:Requested articles/Images. If you ever need anything, just ask. Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:06, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

File:Rehtaeh Parsons.jpg listed for deletion

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Rehtaeh Parsons.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 09:55, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

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