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Master craftsman

Hi! ​ Happy new year to you and your family! I have added a new section in the subject page. Kindly check. Thanks and regards RV (talk) 04:22, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi RAJIVVASUDEV, thanks and best wishes for you as well. My only input to that article was to revert a vandal, however I see no issues with your addition. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 12:22, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
Thank you and best regards RV (talk) 12:25, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

ViraTrace article submission

Hi there.

Back in September you declined an article entitled “ViraTrace- 2nd Generation Contact Tracing” for not having external references showing significance. We’ve added those references and are hoping you could take a look!

Thanks! WayneThornton (talk) 04:05, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi WayneThornton thanks for adding references and resubmitting, however to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. Also I'm taking a semi-break from Wikipedia dealing with real-life issues for a while so I'm not currently reviewing any. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 12:25, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Article creation

How can I create my ow article Lips-syke Shengu shark (talk) 10:15, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Air Chief Marshal Mujahid Anwar Khan

I added his achievements in which he lead PAF during a standoff with India shooting of two IAF planes, taking one pilot as POW and in panic the IAF shooting of its own Mi-17 helicopter killing 6 of its own troops.

The edit has been reverted. May I know why it has been reverted??? Maham Banori (talk) 21:37, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Request on 19:14:44, 21 January 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Sj1233


Sir, I have submitted an article but it was declined sir please tell me that what I can include in my article to get it published.

Sj1233 (talk) 19:14, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Sj1233 all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS) - your article is not sourced and does not show they meet the criteria see Wikipedia:Notability (people). Regards KylieTastic (talk) 19:22, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Creating Article for my musical performances and creative work

Hi KylieTastic,

What's the best way/process to create this page? I had a draft somewhere (2019) and it's gone missing. I've been slowly building up an article with more details.

Thanks

- S

  • Hi Samseranylon Wikipedia is not for people to write about themselves, that's what your own website and social media are for. See Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. So the best way to get a Wikipedia article "for my musical performances and creative work" is to just keep working on your craft and if/when people notice and write about you and your work then someone will write an article about you here. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 12:02, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for reviewing

Hello! I just want to say thanks for reviewing my article, even though it didn't make the cut this time. This is a new account, because in the end I couldn't help but return to being a contributor. So having these articles go through a submission review was a new experience. Usually most of these articles seem to make it when not being subject to a submission (I was for example inspired to create this article after seeing that a similar science YouTuber I like, ElectroBOOM, has his own, stubby article). So thank you for taking the time to review it! It is definitely a learning experience.Euor (talk) 02:47, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Euor no worries, when I saw it I hoped that there would be enough sources to pass WP:BIO as I've watching his work for many years. Unfortunately once you cut out YouTube sources and self listings such as mars-one.com there isn't quit enough. Having that much sourced directly by YouTube links will also be a red-rag to those that would judge if moved to main-space. Have another look about maybe more sources do exist, as you say many science YouTubers do end being notable enough. Unfortunately several of the 'news' sources available are not helpful (WP:THESUN and WP:DAILYMAIL) as depreciated sources. You could look at these and see if you can replace the primary YouTube sources with some:
Also good to show covered in other countries, especially non English show he has been noted in the world in general ...
I'm sure there are more but my internet has up to 40% packet loss so frankly a pain to browse. All the best KylieTastic (talk) 11:19, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
Hello again! Thanks for so many links! I think I managed to work every one into the article. Would you have the time to look over into quickly, and tell me whether I should re-submit it?Euor (talk) 23:22, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Hi Euor good work, to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random. (Also I'm probably working all week). However a quick glance shows much improved, the tools we use to highlight dubious sources no longer colours most of them red. I would submit again and hopefully it will get through, if not hopefully some helpful feedback... a decline is not a rejection it just says it needs more work. If you do want some other feedback you can ask at the Wikipedia:Teahouse. And if it isn't reviewed quickly it could be myself that picks it up later. All the best KylieTastic (talk) 10:18, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft:KHUH-LP

Kylie, I don't like overruling anyone on a reviewed article, but I have to on this one. This is notable under GNG, NMEDIA, and BCASTOUTCOMES. It is well-sourced, but I will admit, it could be better. I'll work on that momentarily. But, it is notable. I'm going to push it to mainspace and work on it there.

Again, I apologize for the overrule, I don't like doing it, but on this one (it's my speciality here), I have to. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 01:25 on January 25, 2021 (UTC)

  • Hey Neutralhomer no problems at all - we (hopefully) are all here to get as many articles out and improved as possible. It's not overruling it's what we hope happens with all notable subjects in AfC that are declined because they don't yet show how they are notable when submitted. PrometheusEsoterica had already done the correct thing after the decline and added more and re-submitted when your saw it. The Seattle Magazine one you noted on there talk page that was very good was one of these added after the initial decline. Ideally we would have enough reviewers that we could take the time to look deeper, but with the number of submissions we get we just have to rely on submitters improving themselves, or finding other interested editors to help. So good outcome, feel free to improve and move any others you come across, or join AfC. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 10:11, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
  • I always like to make sure. :) Some editors see it as an overrule, some see it (like you did) as just improvement. So, I always err on the side of caution. :) If you do come across any other radio station articles from the US in DRAFT, let me know and I'll take a look. I'm always eager to improve articles as much as possible. :) - Neutralhomer • Talk • 18:34 on January 25, 2021 (UTC)

P44 road article submission

Hello.

You have recently declined this article: "P44 road (Ukraine) for not having reliable sources, although another article I have created, "P61 road (Ukraine)", has the same reliable sources (they list information about regional highways in Ukraine) and it was not declined. I just read WayneThornton's request and you answer, but I am just interested why it was declined.

Thank you, stay safe! Doc Dimaus (talk|contrib) 12:46, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Doc Dimaus, using WP:GEOROAD I took it that regional roads require slightly more than mere existence to be notable - however the term "regional road" means differnt things in different countries. However the main issue I have is with the sources, rather than the notability as I doubt with adequate basic reliable sources that the article would be deleted if accepted just for lack of " significant coverage". Source 1 & 5 are blogs and are generally classed as unreliable unless it's a blog of a well known expert etc. The second source to highwaymaps.eu only appear to mention the M roads not the P roads, so not a source for the content. Finally the last source is just a link to https://www.google.com/maps which again is a root link and non specific and roads in many countries are difficult to locate in google maps - I searched for "P44, Ukraine" and it did not help much - you should at least have links that go the start and end such as P44 start near Sumy. As for why Bkissin accepted P61 road (Ukraine) with similar reference issues you'd have to ask them, but I assume it was that the topic was likely to survive a trip to AfD but I would still have expected the article to be tagged as needing improved sources. Hope that explains my reasoning. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 19:27, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your time, KylieTastic (talk), I will try to fix the issue!

Cheers, Doc Dimaus (talk|contrib) 2:33, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

pictures of Alfred de Grazia

On January 14, 2021, I have removed two pictures from the article Alfred de Grazia which I think are irrelevant. One picture seems to me to suffice for a normal Wikipedia article. The two pictures were added by a member of the subject’s family who had mental health problems and who effected many erroneous and fantastic changes to the article in the past, which had to be deleted and corrected. The caption of one of the pictures is erroneous. These pictures were reinstated under the pretext that I cannot remove them because I am supposed to have a COI. I tried to at least correct the erroneous caption, which made the picture disappear, this was not an attempt at vandalism. The picture was reinstated together with the erroneous caption. I would like to remove the two pictures, and if this cannot be done, to have at least the erroneous caption under one of them corrected. (There is no such thing as a “Victory Day” in France, and the decoration in question is called the Legion of Honor.)

  • Hi Radost I don't understand why you think the images are irrelevant, to me they appear relevant to the sections and three images for an article of that length is far from excessive. The first picture in the "Military activity" section is fitting as it shows them with their medals, the second in the "Support for Velikovsky" section showing them with Velikovsky has merit in showing they were more than an unconnected supporter. Your claim that these two images were added by a family member is also at least half not true as the Velikovsky image was created by Beyond My Ken who did revert your first removal due to a COI claim, but you would have to bring that up with them. We can't factor is unsubstantiated "mental health problems" and also many "mental health problems" do not mean edits are not valid. I reverted your last edit as you did not just change the caption, but changed the filename to something invalid thus breaking it. Unfortunately I do not know enough on the subject to say if the caption is erroneous or not, however a quick google show a French site (https://publicholidays.fr/victory-day/) that would claim that there is one on May 8th (albeit a translation). I just reverted in passing as you had broken the image, so I would suggest talking to Beyond My Ken who has made extensive edits to the article would be a better solution - maybe they know enough to judge the validity or not of the caption. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 14:42, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Shifra Shvarts

I approved it, but also tagged it. Would probably survive AfD but needs a TON of work in my opinion. --CNMall41 (talk) 20:18, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Nikola Hillebrand

Dear KylieTastic

It is my first time using wikipedia and i had some difficulties working out the submission process and I apologise if the following question is perhaps self explanatory. I wished to create an article about the german opera singer Nikola Hillebrand as i had noticed she was absent from wikipedia. I have received a decline stating lack of sources i think. I had noticed from other artists that she has worked with that some have press section (specifically on wikipedia.de). Would it be advised to add these sources to the article?

Many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lilian Wolf (talk • contribs) 19:15, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Lilian Wolf we were all new editors once so no apologies needed. It really depends what you mean by "press section" - if it's press releases or interviews they don't really help as not independent, but yes any other press/news written about her will help. In general all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). For a person the guideline we would use would be Wikipedia:Notability (people) or specifically as a musician it would be Wikipedia:Notability (music). Hope that explains things a bit, Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 20:04, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Terisa Griffin

Hello, I am attempting to have this new article reviewed and I noticed that it's saying the article is redirecting to The Voice's Wikipedia article if possible, would you please provide advice on how to correct this or improve the article?

Thank you for your time. musiklova67Musiklova67 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 21:43, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Musiklova67 yes Terisa Griffin is currently redirected to The Voice (American TV series). If your article Draft:Terisa Griffin is accepted then it will replace the current redirect. Your draft is submitted so will be reviewed in due time, but AfC is backlogged and currently having way more submissions than reviews. I didn't actually look at the draft but just helped tidy up the references in passing. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 22:03, 28 January 2021 (UTC)


Hi KylieTastic, Thank you for your quick response. Cheers Musiklova67 (talk) 22:48, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Article Review

Please I would like to ask for a favor from you. Can you help me add in the reliable source to the page as you have more experience than I have in wikipedia page editing Phemsizzy (talk) 12:34, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

"Chapter One: The Hellfire Club"

Could you please take a look at my draft of Chapter One: The Hellfire Club again? I have now added eight refrences/reliable sources, which is eight more than last time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.143.172.2 (talk) 15:06, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi, glad to see you added more references and re-submitted. However to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 18:51, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Samuel Ikin

It is not a page about myself — Preceding unsigned comment added by I Only Edit Grammar (talk • contribs) 14:24, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

why my 6b6t artical got decilened

i made the 6b6t artical 100 right why it got decilined — Preceding unsigned comment added by HAMI X 11 (talk • contribs) 14:35, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi HAMI X 11 all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 15:11, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Roger_Ricketts

Hi,

You turned my page about Artist Roger Ricketts down because it needs a better reliable source. I am writing as the grandson of the person the page is about - my view can't be much more reliable.

Please reconsider your decision — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oliver Ricketts (talk • contribs) 18:24, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Oliver Ricketts all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Also see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. As for a close relative being the most reliable that is very rarely the case, and even if written with the best intentions to be neutral sources are often family word-of-mouth that is often likely to stray from fact. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 18:39, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

AfC help with Solar radio emission

Hello KylieTastic, sorry to bother you but I noticed that you are an active participant of AfC. This is my first time reviewing a draft submitted at AfC, and I accepted Solar radio emission and moved it to mainspace a few minutes ago. However, the creator of the page wasn't notified. Can you please take a look? Thank you. --Ashleyyoursmile! 14:36, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

KylieTastic, it has been taken care of. Sorry to bother you. Ashleyyoursmile! 15:52, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Hi Ashleyyoursmile no bother at all, I would have answered but I was on yet another conference call. Not sure why the tool didn't do it, unless you closed the page before it had finished (I've done that by mistake before). Hopefully it was just a glitch and will work next time. My only other thought was If there was a bug in the tool because the submitters name had a period in it. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 16:13, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
    KylieTastic, I was using the helper when the network went unstable and though the draft got moved to mainspace, neither the talk page banner was generated nor the creator informed. Another editor has added the AfC banner to the article, and I've informed the creator manually. Thanks, Ashleyyoursmile! 16:18, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Accademia Nazionale Virgiliana di Scienze Lettere ed Arti

Dear KylieTastic, some time ago you declined my submission because it was not adequately supported by reliable sources. In your opinion, does the new version of the article meet the criteria of reliability? Thank for your advice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Avmant (talk • contribs) 22:24, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Avmant it looks much improved thanks, however I didn't look to deep as I'm currently sick and to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. You've submitted it so it will be reviewed at some point. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 09:10, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Not my edit

The 'Number bond' edit wasn't one of mine, don't know what I'm supposed to have done or how the wires got crossed, just wanted to clarify. 81.178.176.12 (talk) 22:56, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi 81.178.176.12 those warnings were from 2015 - Internet IP addresses get re-assigned often so no one would this this was related to yourself. I have removed it as old and stale anyway. All the best KylieTastic (talk) 09:47, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Submission: Draft:Brid.TV

Hi! Thank you so much for your comments regarding the article. You said there were not enough reliable sources for the article. I'm so sorry for that. I found some articles, but I wanted to check with someone if they were good for Wikipedia before posting them. Can you perhaps take a look at them? Perhaps I can send you an email. Thank you in advance! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andjela.bonapart (talk • contribs) 07:00, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Andjela.bonapart please note the key is reliable sources (WP:RS) not quantity, so PR does not help. All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). See Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) for what we are looking for. The point of draft space is so you can work on things with others without the risk of working in the main article area. So please just add any sources you have identified to the article, and remove/replace PR sources and re-submit. Note that in general most editors only use email for confidential issues, this is because Wikipedia is supposed to be an open collaborative project (no secret cabals as some claim), and also for personal privacy. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 09:59, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

KylieTastic, thank you for your reply! The company operates in Serbia as well. So, I'm sorry I didn't phrase my question correctly. I do have reliable and independent sources, some of them I didn't include because they're in the Serbian language. Obviously, I will update the article with those in English. However, can I add those in Serbian or not? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andjela.bonapart (talk • contribs) 10:30, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Andjela.bonapart yes you can - although sources that are online and English are preferred all are valid, some notable subjects only have non-English sources. With things such as google translate readers can often read non-English sources (use the actual source, not a translated link). Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 10:38, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

You did not even read it!

Why did you reject the article Lesbian Island? I have added the sources from facebook, Instagram, Play Store, Websites You did not even look at the, because you rejected it in 2 seconds only I think you did not even have the time to read anything Kindly review it You rejected it in 2 seconds only which means that you did not even read it!! Is that because I am a new user? You publish paid sites like IMVU and Paid Dating Apps like HER but in same time you reject a non-profit organization helps girls everywhere in the world!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by CynthiaSteele (talk • contribs) 13:43, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi CynthiaSteele I did not need to read it full, but it isn't that long to scan read in about 15 seconds. As all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). So with just links to the site, a promotional download link, and own Instagram it has zero independent reliable sources to show notability. Wikipedia:Other stuff exists is never a good argument and if anything only gets other articles deleted. If you don't think those articles meet the guidelines please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion to put them up for deletion. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 14:46, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

Illegitimi non carborundum Theroadislong (talk) 16:24, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
 Thanks KylieTastic (talk) 16:26, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Dobha Page

why it has been declined — Preceding unsigned comment added by Srawan Tripathi (talk • contribs) 09:54, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Request on 15:48:19, 7 February 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Abaumik94


please review the references of Draft:Arnab Bhaumik. The first article is his IMDB title, all of the rest have his name listed as a writer. Abaumik94 (talk) 15:48, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) That's make it to be WP:BLP1E and not notable enough. — Amkgp 💬 15:53, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Hi Abaumik94 IMDB is not a reliable source as it's user created content. I searched all the sources for "Bhaumik" and only the first mentions them. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 15:54, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Kylie, will request you to search for Arnab instead. His name has been misspelt as Arnab Bhowmik in many articles as it is another common spelling for the last name. Kindly do go through all the articles and search for Arnab, the first name. Abaumik94 (talk) 15:56, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Abaumik94 well firstly it someone if often known by another name/spelling that should be cited in the content. However the all just mention their name is passing as the writer. It requires significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources to show notability. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 16:01, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
    (edit conflict) KylieTastic, It also looks like a WP:PROMOTION attempt now. Also, the creator has engaged repeatedly removal of previous decline notices which are not to be removed. — Amkgp 💬 16:03, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Zhila Hoseini

Hi, I added some new sources to the draft:Zhila Hoseini as you asked me to do . All sources are about the poets's life and poems. please if possible remove decline tag on the draft and send to review. Thanks.Arashbara (talk) 17:36, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Arashbara thanks for updating and improving your article. Previous decline notices are not removed so that the next reviewer can see what issues there were are see if they have been addressed (we get a lot of people not addressing the issues and just resubmitting). You have submitted again so it will be reviewed at some point. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 17:43, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

AfC Pobal

I dispute the reason given for rejecting an article about the not-for-profit Irish state agency Pobal. The stated reason is that there is insufficient mention in independent reputable sources. This is incorrect as any google site search for Pobal on rte.ie (national broadcaster), irishtimes.com (paper of record) or independent.ie (other mass circulation paper) will show. Like many quangos that deal with child services issues and handle large amounts of funds for state and EU agencies, in a not-entirely-transparent or accountable way, Pobal has been in the news a number of times over the years with various politicians and agencies alleging mis-use of funds or even corruption. But for me to arbitrarily pick a "best of" list of controversies for the article, would result in an unbalanced article that would potentially fall foul of NPOV. Finally, there is already an article for Pobal on the site, which is misleading because it is about the now-defunct NI language advocacy group, which is of far less notability than the actually-existing (RoI) state funding body. Leaving the one without including the other is misleading users of wikipedia, imho.

Some new story links: https://www.irishtimes.com/topics/topics-7.1213540?article=true&tag_organisation=POBAL https://www.independent.ie/business/personal-finance/government-stunned-over-rising-childcare-premiums-as-it-considers-fund-38791432.html https://www.rte.ie/news/2019/1212/1098729-hyde-and-seek/ https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/charitable-status-of-not-for-profit-pobal-being-reviewed-1.3486675 https://www.rte.ie/deprivation/

Helvetius (talk) 18:42, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Helvetius Draft:Pobal (IE) was not rejected but declined for now as not yet showing notability. It has no independent reliable sources let alone enough to show notability. It was not declined stating that source do not exist but "This submission's references do not show". It is not the job of AfC reviewers to go searching for sources, unlike at AfD where editors must check before proposing deletion. There are over 4000 submissions and growing daily with few volunteer reviewers, so it is up to submitters to add enough sources to show how the pass notability WP:N. So please do update your draft article with the sources above, and any other significant ones - see Help:Referencing for beginners - and re-submit. If the sources show the subject is notable a reviewer will be happy to accept. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 18:53, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Vendee Globe Sailors Pages

I am concerned user:Onel5969 discourage people from wanting to be involved in wikipedia. In good faith I created pages for sailing athletes concerned with the Vendee Globe everyone concerned have wikidata, wiki common and extensive wiki french profiles. I have no idea why one editor can send items to a review process with a four month unordered review process. Particularly when similar articles have already been approved following review and other nominated for speedy deletion have had significantly improved following nomination by myself and other users.

I was under the miss belief that starting the articles linking them to common data across the wikipedia platforms, writing a couple of lines and adding the appropriate common template would be a good starting point for the wiki community to build on. It is more than literally 1000s of athlete pages on wikipedia so I don't get why these pages are getting reviewed to a higher standard. The policies now cause me on these later articles to link to plenty of website that regurgitate press release to show notoriety. Can you tell me why you rejected the pages Draft:Yannick Bestaven for example if you just put this name into google you can see the level of press interest. I appreciate your a volunteer and trying to work for the community hence asking for feedback is there anything you can do to get these pages approved. Yachty4000 (talk) 23:15, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Yachty4000 I understand why such things can seem annoying and confusing. There has been a tendency to WP:DRAFTIFY a lot of articles that previously the only option would have been to maintenance tag or take it to WP:AFD. If an article is taken to WP:AFD then the editor has to have done notability checks outside of Wikipedia (WP:BEFORE) and would have found the sources. Once in draft WP:AFC does not require us to look outside, as it is already backlogged due to vast numbers of submissions and few volunteer reviewers. However this is meant for new editors and can seam unfair to editors like yourself. Firstly currently sailors do not have and special notes for determining notability in Wikipedia:Notability (sports) - you could see in there are enough active editors in Wikipedia:WikiProject Sailing to suggest suitable standards - i.e. which competitions are major. As such a sailor is judged on WP:BIO and you only had a single source. Having wikidata and other language versions does not help per se as other languages have generally lower standards (as English Wikipedia did in the past). So the key to not having an article 'draftified' or sent to WP:AFD is to make sure there are at least two, preferably three good reliable sources (WP:RS). I would have thought you had to have used sources to create the article so it's just a case of quickly adding them <ref>https://url 1 </ref><ref>https://url 2 </ref><ref>https://url 2 </ref> and your done. In AfC we often get translations that just point to a Wikipedia article in another language, but sources have to be used directly, and hopefully its a quick fix. I don't know if your aware but there is no reason once your happy you've added the sources to address the concern you can just move back to article space yourself. WP:AFC is only mandatory for the really new users and anon editors. it just means your taking the responsibility for deeming it meets WP:BIO rather than the reviewer (or more correctly we are supposed to judge it has better than a 50/50 chance of surviving any Afd challenge). You could also ask Onel5969 if they are happy your additions make them main-space ready. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 11:01, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
    • Thankyou for taking the time to write such a detailed response, lots of wikipedia policies I was unaware of with a lot of hints. I didn't realise I could move things out of the draft space I always up to now thought this was a review process. I think given people like User:John B123 have reviewed the article I am tempted to improve them and move them back. Having said that I hate nothing more than editor wars so will just give up and stop contributing again as I have to articles related to another hobby of mine RC Cars. The notability in sports page just made me smile seeing so many silly sports given exemption bases on the fact someone has gone to the effort to defining a policy. I will write a definition in Wikipedia:WikiProject Sailing and hope someone understands wikipedia better to get it included in the notable section. This will obviously include competitor in pinnacle events within the sport as sailing is lucky to have more than the Olympics. Yachty4000 (talk) 22:07, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Hi Yachty4000 yes the fact that there is nothing to stop people moving stuff out of draft is not wildly known and many think it should not be allowed because many just move back unsourced drafts with no attempts to show notability, and then these go to AfD taking up more time. However for some editors they would rather go to AfD where they can argue the point rather than wait in draft for ages. Sports notability is an area that unless you are in the know about a sport it's difficult to judge what is notable, and thus it relies on interested parties putting forward recommendations. There is always disagreement and I don't get involved in such discussions, but if the community comes to a consensus then it help stops the "of course they are notable they won the....." or "they competed in ....". Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 09:35, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Horn of Plenty (James Burke album)

Hello Kylie,

My name is Mark and I'm really very new to all of this and have a real hard time working things out without talking to a live person. I created a page for a very famous person, my trumpet teacher James F. Burke (Musician). I am trying to add articles to Wikimedia to use as references to certain points on his page. I am also trying to create pages for the LPs he recorded. I am also trying to upload photos of him from a website I own. Failure on all. I think I understand the photo issue. The article I uploaded to wikimedia today was done with permission from the copyright holder and it was still rejected. Another article i uploaded was his resume which he sent to me personally from his own typewriter in 1974. I uploaded a pdf of that and now it's gone. When I provided a link to discogs.com for confirmation one of his LPs existed, that was rejected and the page not published. Please advise. Cheers!

--Mark O'Keeffe (talk) 21:49, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Mark O'Keeffe and welcome. Firstly if you do want to "talk" live to someone there is the "live help" link on the decline notice (disclaimer I've never been involved wit the IRC live help but I've seen others say it helped). Now onto the main issue. All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). In this case we would use the guide WP:NALBUM. Note that just because a musician is notable does not mean every recording is notable on its own for a separate article and WP:NALBUM gives the criteria required. Also discogs is not considered a reliable source as it is user generated content (see WP:RSPSOURCES). So for notability and verifiably it currently has zero effective sources, and multiple are required. As for the uploads on our sister site commons not all have been deleted see c:Special:ListFiles/Mark_O'Keeffe and I see from File:James F. Burke With Admiration By Raymond Crisara Page 1.pdf that you have already found the OTRS is needed for some items. Copyright is taken very seriously here and on commons due to the legal ramifications for the project, and it can be very frustrating. In this case just because a photo is from a webpage you own does not mean you own the rights to the image to give freely for use here, but also once published elsewhere (unless very old and now public domain) OTRS would be required, as I guess you have already found. I would suggest rather than bundling all these issues together in one bug frustration, deal wit them separately and in the case of commons although we can link to any files directly it is a different project. Lastly do use the Wikipedia:Teahouse (link on your talk page) as you can ask questions and get the eyes and opinions of many experienced users and admins. Hope that helps explain things a bit. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 22:19, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you and 1 more question please

File:James F. Burke With Admiration By Raymond Crisara Page 1.pdf
James F. Burke With Admiration By Raymond Crisara (Page 1)

Hi again Kylie,

Thank you so much for finding my article! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:James_F._Burke_With_Admiration_By_Raymond_Crisara_Page_1.pdf

Can you please instruct me on how to make this article accessible. I tried to use it as a reference and it was deleted as "circular". I get that part. I just don't know how to link to it and make readers aware it is there. Cheers!

--Mark O'Keeffe (talk) 22:37, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Mark to be honest I don't think I ever have used an uploaded document as a source, but in it's simplest form something like (note the extra colon before the File stops it rendering as an image):
<ref>[[:File:James_F._Burke_With_Admiration_By_Raymond_Crisara_Page_1.pdf|James F. Burke With Admiration By Raymond Crisara (Page 1)]]</ref>[1]
Unless you want to use as an image then it's just [[File:James_F._Burke_With_Admiration_By_Raymond_Crisara_Page_1.pdf|thumb|James F. Burke With Admiration By Raymond Crisara (Page 1)]]: However without knowing the history of the document it would be hard to say it was a neutral independent source, it may depend it it was published, but tbh I'm not sure and it's late. That may be one to pass by Wikipedia:Teahouse for someone with experience of using uploaded docs as sources. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 23:02, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ James F. Burke With Admiration By Raymond Crisara (Page 1)

Thank you!

Hi Kylie,

That was the perfect solution. Thanks so much! Take care!

--Mark O'Keeffe (talk) 23:24, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Draft:BENA_World

Hello Kylie,

I hope you are safe and healthy at this critical time. You kindly commented on 3 December 2020 with "not even mentioned in 'sources'. The draft now is registered in "Maroof" E-platform, by the Saudi Arabian Ministry of Commerce. "Maroof" in Arabic language means 'famous', 'well-known', and to the Saudi Arabian Ministry of Commerce, BENA registered with "Marouf" E-platform means 'authentic' and 'reliably sourced'. I have reviewed and sent a request to publish changes. Kindly conclude the review and publish the article. Eseelalsammarraie (talk) 09:12, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Eseelalsammarraie thanks, and I hope your healthy and happy too. However a subject being registered anywhere is not something that Wikipedia uses for notability. All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). If such sources exist please add them and re-submit. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 10:15, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Please help Draft:junaid_bhat

Hello, hope you are doing good i'm new here on wikepedia , i'm trying to contribute some articles on wikpedia ,i have just started contributing to wikipedia and a day before i went through a draft of Draft:Junaid Bhat after analysing this draft i came to know you had rejected it before because it was incomplete, I collected all the info about the said person from internet and then i started working on that incomplete draft as it's complete for now, i request you have a look on this draft ; help me to get my first work published thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prakrutiprajapanti (talk • contribs) 13:34, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Prakrutiprajapanti I have at least a thousand articles on my current list to finish that I have no time for so sorry but no. Yes I did decline (not reject) Draft:Junaid Bhat on the first attempt but that is normal for most new editors. I cannot see to comment further as most of the content was removed as copyright. I can see that one source is medium(.com) that is a blogging site so very very rarely a reliable source. If you wanted to find someone willing to help before review I would look to the wikiprojects Wikipedia:WikiProject Photography or Wikipedia:WikiProject Journalism. However maybe the best thing to do it just re-submit and get it reviewed. As a person it will be reviewed using the guide Wikipedia:Notability (people). Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 21:43, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
P has asked many editors to help her with her drafts. She has been advised to do her own work. David notMD (talk) 10:51, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Unfair discrimination in content approval

We feel that we are being unfairly discriminated against in the rejection of our Wikipeida entry. Our non-profit educational organization has been active for over 40 years, and has had a lot of press coverage before there even was a worldwide web. We have included several citations from external sources. Yet, I regularly see hundreds of existing entries that have ZERO and say This article does not cite any source. This is not professional behavior, and as someone who in the past has made an annual donation to the Wikimedia Foundation, I now regret doing so and won't again as long as such unfair conduct continues. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Larry01301 (talk • contribs) 22:25, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Larry01301 that fact that you use "we" and "our" indicates that you have a conflict of interest - please read WP:COI. Now I'll deal with your statements in order. You may "feel" discriminated against but the truth is reviewers just use the current guidelines when reviewing submissions. All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). One of your sources is your own website (not independent), the greenenergytimes source is written by the " executive director of NESEA" (not independent) and the last two are from UMASS that from what is written appears to have a link to your organisation so not fully independent. The UMASS source on "American Tour de Sol Records" is more of a passing mention not about your organisation - this is fine as a reference but does not help much in judging notabilty. Being active for 40 years means nothing in itself, however I would expect that being an active non-profit for that long would mean sources should exist. Sources do not have to be online (its just preferred), and I can see for newspapers.com 966 matches for "Northeast Sustainable Energy Association". Other stuff exists is never a helpful argument. Yes there are many articles created in the past before the current guidelines that still have no sources and either need them adding or need to be deleted - this is not a good reason to add more. If you find any that are not notable as specified in Wikipedia:Notability you can submit them for deletion (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion) and help the clean-up. Yes this is "professional behavior" we are applying the same community agreed guidelines to all new submissions. I personally think non-profits (charities here in the UK) should have some intrinsic notability if they have been around a while but previous attempts to add did not gain consensus. Lastly donations to the Wikimedia Foundation go to running the servers they have nothing to do with content. Content is handled by volunteers working to the guidelines that are decided by consensus of anyone who chooses to take part. I too have donated money, as well as hundreds of hours of my time, but unlike you I don't expect that gives me the right to be able to publish an article about my own company. Also if you see "hundreds" of entries with no sources you must use Wikipedia a huge amount, and your money is going to keep the servers running so people can access Encyclopedic content, it is not to run a platform for companies to write about themselves. For the article to be accepted it must have independent reliable sources to show it passes Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) - you can choose to find some and add or not. KylieTastic (talk) 11:08, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Draft:ULAQ (AUSV)

Hi! Would you please check whether the Draft:ULAQ (AUSV) is now qualified for submission. Thanks. CeeGee 15:16, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi CeeGee thanks for adding more sources however to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. Also I'm trying to catch up with a lot of other things I want to get done this weekend. I see no obvious issues so the please do re-submit - blue button on the decline note. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 15:21, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Umm, on one-room and two-room schoolhouses

Hey, your revert just now with edit summary "unsourced" is a tad irritating. My edit added general introductory info, appropriate for an intro, no citations necessary or even allowable there, really. I hope you do not seriously doubt that many one-room schoolhouse buildings survive and are listed on historic registers and/or survive as museums. Have you never been to one (i dunno, is this a U.S. thing, and are you not a U.S. editor)? Someone not well-informed could question about two-room ones, I suppose, but your edit didn't narrow it down. Consider Category:One-room schoolhouses, to start. --Doncram (talk) 22:33, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Doncram we don't edit from personal experience (and no I'm not in the US) but even if I was it could be a personal experience that has no general meaning, and what about three room and four room and five room? One-room school is about one room schools, and you were adding a link to two-room schoolhouses where you had also created Draft:Two-room schoolhouse that is also unsourced and has been declined as such. Yes, I'm sure there were/are two, three, four,... room schools but it has to be significant and sourced. And yes I would also guess that many one-room schoolhouse buildings are on the historic register, but maybe only a small number survive - this is why we use sources - sometimes the facts match expectations, other-times they surprise us. Currently Category:Two-room schoolhouses has four entries but the first I checked Butler School (Oak Brook, Illinois) the source does not back that up. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 22:49, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Well, your not being from the U.S. explains a lot. I happen to focus mostly on U.S. National Register of Historic Places articles, including many one-room (and some two-room schoolhouses) in rural areas, especially, from pioneer days, that are preserved and many of which function as museums. And everywhere I have lived in the U.S. there are always historic one-room schoolhouses that way, even in long-settled New York State. I think it is actually a painful, boring, general growing-up-in-America experience, to have to go on a school trip to visit one of these. I would bet 20 percent to 50 percent of Americans have had to endure that! You may notice that Category:One-room schoolhouses is very American-centric, divides out by U.S. states ... I will try to update that so that it allows for possibility of examples from other countries.
About two-room ones, that is somewhat different, does require a bit of knowledge (allow me to claim that I have such, from experience with many two-room U.S. National Register articles). It is a "type", it is a "thing", like a Carnegie library is a thing and a pair house is a thing and a Rosenwald school is a thing, which I can recognize. Only just started with opening Category:Two-room schoolhouses, which will have many members soon. (Yes, the Butler School category is arguable; it mentions starting as a two-room school but the article is not mainly about that, so if you care to remove that category I would not object).
About "we don't edit from personal experience", well, I do know and even like that Wikipedians discount self-professed "experts", but I do have knowledge (not especially expert, just basic really but beyond what layperson has in this area) that is beyond that. It would be fine actually for Draft:Two-room schoolhouse to be in mainspace already, because it is so so obviously a legitimate thing, and articles don't actually have to have references. But it can wait, too.
I see you identify as British, jolly well for you you haven't had to suffer the pioneer schools.
Another British-vs.-US difference of understanding, by the way, is the significance of Masonic buildings...which in U.S. are typically major landmarks, very significant in their communities when they were built, but British editors can't/couldn't grok that. Contributing to hundreds of thousands of words battling in Talk pages and AFDs and such about lists of them, in the past. cheers--Doncram (talk) 23:31, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Doncram yes the cultural differences are always enlightening and I'm always having to fight the local spell-checker. I did find the idea of Masonic buildings odd, but I'd say your Greek-lettered fraternities are odder. I've been expanding drafts on old US state supreme court justices and it's an interesting thing delving into 1800s American newspapers (but also the page 1 racism is still hard to fathom). My first schools was very old and apparently did start as a one room school in 1630 (I had no idea till now) but was already a three-classroom + attached house by 1919 and that was the old building on site when I went to it. I would assume the UK did have a lot of one and two room schools but they either got expanded, re-purposed or knocked-down... but we have a lot less space to play with. A quick google shows that the "two-room school"/"house" is defo a thing so I agree with your plan to expand on the topic. I had a quick look trying to find a general source for the Draft:Two-room schoolhouse but failed, it's late here, but I'm sure some suitable sources exist - I'd say I'd help but I have several hundred articles on my get-out-of-draft list, and AfC has an ever growing backlog. Luckily we have quite a few editors interested in historic buildings and they are usually a nice easy accept from AfC, making such a nice change from the endless promotion. Cheers from the other side of the pond KylieTastic (talk) 00:03, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
This was helpful exchange for me, that maybe my U.S.-based perspective of commonality of, of celebration of, one-roomers is narrower than I assumed. I don't particularly assume there would be notable stand-alone one-roomers in the U.K., it would seem possible that as more schools developed throughout the U.K. those could have been housed in existing public buildings or churches, or they were boarding schools as appear in David Copperfield novels, etc....at least I don't recall ever hearing of a one-room schoolhouse of the rural, pioneering type in the U.K. The one-room schoolhouse article alludes to one-roomers in more pioneering areas like Prussia and Norway. In the U.S., one-roomers were built with no provision for a teacher or any boarders to live anywhere; any teacher rounded up would be a local, like I think Laura Ingalls Wilder was, I think she taught school in her town. Or if they were hired from afar they would come by Wells Fargo stagecoach or by train and they would be set up to live with a local ranch family or similar; later-built schools which included a teacherage are not so clearly classified as "one-room schoolhouses" at all. A very simple one-room schoolhouse was something that the local farmers and townspeople could come together and put up, free of any connections to pre-existing institutions without complications; I don't particularly see that happening without any complications in the U.K.
Perhaps you noticed the U.S. vs. Norway academic-type article source added by me to the one-room schoolhouse article. That is interesting to me in comparing fact of hundreds of U.S. National Register of Historic Places listed one-room schoolhouses, vs. zero in Norway's equivalent. And how expansion of schooling in Norway was more about imposition upon resistant, conservative farmers, than about being prideful cooperative creation by U.S. pioneers, and being a U.S. national icon (which I see that it is, i just didn't perceive how narrowly U.S.-based that may be). I found three Canadian one-roomers, and one Norway one, to put into Category:One-room schoolhouses so far, while it is looking to me that there will be 500 or more U.S. ones, when I finish revisiting all the articles on National Register-listed school buildings. (And this will be missing many non-NRHP-listed ones, which have been moved or altered too much or otherwise are not eligible for NRHP listing. But there are many of these, celebrated as local historical places, though few of them have articles in Wikipedia yet and maybe they are not Wikipedia-notable. Hard to guesstimate: another 500 or so?) The writer about Norway noted that while some one-roomers are preserved in open-air parks, it is with more an attitude of shame that we had such pathetic, non-modern things, while in the U.S. there is great pride in the humble/primitive starts which nonetheless were crucial in educating/building local and national greatness and all that. Maybe the dreaded tours of one-roomers I spoke of is really only a U.S. thing, not even a Canadian thing. The one-room schoolhouse article is pretty sucky, overall, though, by the way. --Doncram (talk) 23:00, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Hi Doncram glad to hear you found it helpful. I think in the UK other buildings including people homes were used as schools as they were for other purposes, such as pubs (public houses) really did start out as just someone serving beer in their house. I did do a search on the UK historic register of listed buildings this and although it has results many just have "one room" in the text rather than being just one room. I've not seen anything like the pioneering type in the UK. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 14:39, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
Thanks. I can see the schools in England starting in homes, presumably of the more well-to-do. One U.S. example is Prudence Crandall House, regarded as a mansion, in Connecticut, where Prudence Crandall opened a girls' school (i think not a boarding school at first, I think serving locals in the town), then a black girl's admittance led to controversy and its closure, then it was reopened as a black girls' boarding school, causing more shameful actions. (And there you go with astonishing racism in America.) But in frontier areas, I think there were not any spacious houses of the well-to-do, there were not any unused/extra indoor spaces built, the homes of settlers were crowded and one couldn't school 10 or more students anywhere. And land is cheap (or many would be happy to donate land or allow it on their land), and much of the necessary building materials would be free if labor is applied to moving native stone or collecting logs or whatever, and people were more or less equals (just some pioneers maybe a few years ahead in getting established), so people could see their way to contribute time and throw up a simple one-room building to serve all. I project that in the U.K. there would not be available land or building materials or equality of people's time and interest that way. Theorizing informed by some knowledge of facts on the ground in some places I know, and upon lots of historical fiction, i suppose. I don't think we are far wrong, anyhow. End.
About the Greek letter fraternities and sororities at U.S. universities, it's also interesting to me that you are struck by them. I also find those somewhat weird, and myself avoided getting close to them in life...it was a significant factor for me in university selection to go where they weren't present or numerous. I gather they might be pretty much an American phenomenon. Not that significant in U.S., I would hope, certainly not celebrated widely, and relatively few listed on the U.S. NRHP when significant for their architecture (but not ever, or only rarely, to commemorate social development of the nation). The U.S. is proud that Abraham Lincoln got educated in a one-room schoolhouse (or at least I think that he did), but doesn't much care what secret societies or fraternities George Bush snr and George W. Bush belonged to. (Maybe they have had more effect than I know of, though. Hmm, Yale secret societies.) -- cheers, --Doncram (talk) 15:57, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Recently declined AFC submission

Hi KylieTAstic!

Hope you're well, I was just notified you rejected my draft for "Max Mezo". I just updated the sources so hopefully, this draft will be accepted. I was wondering if you could possibly assist me on how to make the subjects page fit the criteria, or guide me somewhere I could find help. I understand you are busy.

Thanks so much for your time. Mezofilms — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mezofilms (talk • contribs) 19:12, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Mezofilms all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). So the subjects own website and youtube channel/videos are not independent. That's the main thing, apart from a few special cases usually 3+ good sources that are independent and talk about the subject in some depth (not just passing mentions or quotes). See Wikipedia:Notability (people) for more detail. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 19:23, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks so much for your reply! I understand the website/youtube wouldn't count, the subject has had over 3 national news article written about him,(The Toronto Star, BlogTO, Toronto.com) would that be sufficient coverage? Mezofilms — Preceding undated comment added 19:27, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Mezofilms in general 3 national news article would be notable if in depth but they also in this case from the titles they appear to be about one event (see WP:ONEEVENT. But that depends and I haven't read the sources, I would suggest adding other sources if they exist not about that event then re-submit and see what the reviewer says. KylieTastic (talk) 12:11, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

If you need to improve something...

If you want to improve something, but don't have the time, just leave a request in a section here using ==text==, then wait. I will inform you on your talk page with "Re: Article". Thanks! AnotherEditor144 talk contribs 13:33, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Postal Town

Hi there. First thanks for your assistance with the helping regarding the County Londonderry related disruptions we been seeing the last couple of days. I'm protecting some of the pages as they're seeing sustained edits. Secondly I just wanted to explain why I reverted this edit of yours. I know it was good faith and completely understand why you changed it, however Post Towns in the UK are always written and displayed in capitals. It's just the way it is (there's more explanation on the actual article on them.) Canterbury Tail talk 13:41, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Merlyn “Bud” Lea added significant reliable independent sources... Is this what you are looking for?

I've added 9 or so independent sources to my article, but it's still in limbo. I'm not sure if these are the sources you are looking for? Please advise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boottrax (talk • contribs) 14:22, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Boottrax for notability (in this case see WP:BIO) we are looking for significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent. So we wouldn't count those that are interviews/mostly quotes as independent. Also the lombardibroadway.com stands out as just being a site root not mentioning Lea. Also the first few sentences are un-referenced, you can use the same source for multiple parts, and its generally good to use your best sources in the lead section as that helps clearly show notability (by best I mean one that is significant coverage of him, and independent). As for "still in limbo" I assume you mean still waiting for review.... yes unfortunately we appear to be getting more submissions a day and have less volunteer reviewers so the backlog is not just long ut growing - I've added some Wikiprojects to the talk page that may attract interested parties... but in general its just sit back and wait. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 15:15, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Request on 22:32:48, 15 February 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by S5KsMQx


Thanks for your feedback. The project is listed in the German Wikipedia article about #WirVsVirus. Because of this cross-reference, we believed it is a valuable submission. S5KsMQx (talk) 22:36, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

S5KsMQx (talk) 22:32, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi S5KsMQx all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). With one of your references being the subjects own website you only have one source so not enough to show notability on English Wikipedia. If you can find other sources please add and resubmit. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 22:38, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Shalev Alon

Hello Kylie I will be happy to know why exactly Shalev Alon page was declined and what i need to do to change it so it can be approved Thank you so much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by S.A Mixing (talk • contribs) 18:18, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi S.A Mixing all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). In this case see Wikipedia:Notability (people). Interviews are not considered independent, plus also there is a lot of content that is not referenced, so basically it needs more independent reliable sources that contain significant coverage. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 19:03, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

A Barnstar for You!

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
You have been helping fight vandalism brilliantly ever since you joined and started editing here, leading me to give you this award for helping us build Wikipedia and revert vandalism. Thank you for your work. Please keep going! KirkburnFandom (talk) 23:07, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Confused. Draft User Page User:Cathcam/sandbox/Cathcam

I'm confused, I created a simple User page as an achor to start collecting updates for a number of pages, I followed what I thought were the steps to publish just a User page and you declined almost immediately with: Declining submission: bio - Submission is about a person not yet shown to meet notability guidelines (AFCH 0.9.1)

Are there now restrictions on who can create a page in the User space? I wasn't trying to create a page in the wiki space. What did I do wrong? --Cathcam (talk) 00:37, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Cathcam Ah well you did submit to WP:AFC which is for inclusion in the main article space. You can create a your user page at User:Cathcam and just see Wikipedia:User pages for what is and is not allowed, so I would remove the external links as that would likely be seen as promotion unrelated to the project. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 09:41, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Cheers KylieTastic, well that would explain the rejection, but I have to admit I did think I'd started in User:Cathcam. Before I go ahead and try again, do you just mean the link in external links section or all the links? They were included to at least give a point of reference, I have a whole new section on awards for Creed Taylor, as well as a fairly major correction, that I was hoping to flush out on my page with others input before actually making the changes. So those links to ctproduced and discogs at least give others the chance to review some of the things I've already done in relation to Creed and his recordings.

Thanks for your time and advice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cathcam (talk • contribs) 00:35, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Cathcam when you say "I have a whole new section on awards for Creed Taylor" etc. it's sounds like you are trying to write an autobiography on yourself. As Wikipedia:User pages says "While considerable leeway is allowed in personalizing and managing your user pages, they are community project pages, not a personal website" and in the WP:UPGOOD section it should have "Limited autobiographical content". People often indicate their location, languages, interests, skills etc. Some (few) do have external links to websites, who they are on other collaboration platforms etc. but this would be balanced by content about activities on Wikipedia. There are no hard and fast rules but for accounts with few edist people are more likely think it's an attempt to write an unofficial article. I've seen people write a bio on a user page then post links other places such as twitter referring to it as an article. If people just follow a link they'll notice it's on en.wikipedia.org and the content and miss that it's a user page (i.e. it's just an extra User: in the url). However if you include things that make it look like an editors page more than a biography someone will be less likely to challenge. I'd suggest looking at others, and maybe add some Wikipedia:Userboxes to indicate your areas of interest etc. Also once you've done more editing people wont be looking for illicit use. Hope this makes sense. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 08:43, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

My Draft

hello, my draft which you checked said This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia. I was wondering if you could maybe help me fixing it? thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alpha Pilot21 (talk • contribs) 01:54, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Alpha Pilot21 someone with a youtube channel with 26 subscribers is not going to be notable at present. If they continue to work on there music maybe they will be in the future and someone will right an article about them. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 10:39, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Draft: Gowran Grange Airfield

Hello,

I noticed recently that you made some changes to my draft "Gowran Grange Airfield". I'm wondering if you could help me with getting it reviewed? I waited so long to have it reviewed before that someone deleted my page, so I had to get this un-done, and now it seems to be forgotten about. Could you help?

Thanks! SierraTangoAlpha (talk) 12:59, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi SierraTangoAlpha ah I see that Draft:Gowran Grange Airfield was not submitted when created back in November 2019‎. Only 'submitted' drafts get reviewed. As it was not created through Wikipedia:Articles for creation it was missing the template with a submit button - so as a new user you weren't to know! It would have been nice if rather than flag for deletion after six months they had realised and submitted for you. I just edited in passing and have no particular interest in the topic. But don't worry as it is submitted now - it will be reviewed this time, allthough I'm not sure if a local private grass airfield is notable. If you want help/feedback on it while waiting for a reviewer to pick it up you could ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aviation or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Airports. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 19:37, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Why did you revert my update?

Was there some problem with my update on the Smallwood page? Please explain to me why it was changed. Thanks, Ulaixky

  • Hi Ulaixky as the edit summary said it was a copyright violation which due to being a legal issue Wikimedia/Wikipedia take very seriously. Also the image was not valid - note that all images must be uploaded WP:UPIMAGE (copyright allowing). Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 15:03, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you! I understand now, I'm new to Wiki edits. --Ulaixky (talk) 15:46, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Draft:SARLOC Technology

Hi Kylie,

I recently had my (new) SARLOC Technology page declined.

The same content/page, except being written in Welsh, was accepted over a year ago as can be seen here https://cy.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARLOC

I just translated it to English but it is the same information.

What needs to change to make it compliant? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Russoggi255 (talk • contribs) 15:34, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Russoggi255 each language Wikipedia has its own guidelines and those with less article and editors tend to have less strict guidelines. English Wikipedia probably has the most strict guidelines. All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). When I declined it only had the one source, and on top of notability it looked more like promotion. I haven't read the new sources but the BBC is a reliable source if the content is significant, but you'll have to ask Amkgp about the second decline. However I would try to rephrase in a neutral encyclopedic tone, and use the sources inline using <ref> url </ref> (see Help:Referencing for beginners) to make it clear and more easily verifiable (I've done one example). Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 16:17, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Submission declined

Hey Kylie, Just wondering, why you are declining my submission? I'm not really understanding the reason for why?

Thank you!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Zach_Broom_(Pastor)

  • Hi Zacharyb366 all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS) - in this case see Wikipedia:Notability (people). So the subjects own website, book links, own church page are not independent. Also the inline external links to Amazon and Audible look promotional rather than encyclopedic content about the subject. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 10:27, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Information

Hi KylieTastic I believe this athlete doesn't really exist. What evidence do you have about him? Leaving aside the newspaper articles.

Best regards,

Giorgio Nassio — Preceding unsigned comment added by Giorgio Nassio (talk • contribs) 18:31, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Kylie, google is not a 100% reliable source as you well know. Money-making newspapers write anything. I believe the only reliable source is a certificate from an internationally recognized sports club. Greetings — Preceding unsigned comment added by Giorgio Nassio (talk • contribs) 20:10, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you

I just want to thank you for prettying up my page. CasaBasaSF (talk) 03:23, 6 February 2021 (UTC)CasaBasaSF

  • Hi CasaBasaSF no worries, when scanning through drafts even if I don't do a full review I like to tweak and improve. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 10:49, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

A great improvement in readability. Thank you again for your generous time. CasaBasaSF (talk) 22:54, 19 February 2021 (UTC)CasaBasaSF

I believe I have fixed all the issues you mentioned in my submission, can you please advise?

Regarding my submissions: Draft:Merlyn “Bud” Lea

I have 10+ references and corrected the Broadway listing as well with a new reference. Can you please advise? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boottrax (talk • contribs) 14:08, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Boottrax thanks for fixing, adding more references and re-submitting. However to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 14:19, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you

for the Barnstar, saw the SQL Query recently, nice work. CommanderWaterford (talk) 15:36, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Requesting Review for Draft:Francis Baraan

Hello. I was hoping you could review Draft:Francis Baraan and assess if it's eligible to be moved to article space. And if you could help move it, that would be awesome! JanitorPH (talk) 03:11, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi JanitorPH sorry but to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next, although I generally avoid most WP:BLPs. I have however checked that it is submitted so it's just waiting. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 10:18, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the prompt reply! Do you think it would be accepted, my draft? Thanks! JanitorPH (talk) 12:11, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

  • JanitorPH if I had looked close enough, read the article and sources, to determine that it would be probably accepted then I would have accepted myself. KylieTastic (talk) 19:53, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you! You should have been the reviewer and approver of my draft and my yet to be finished drafts! Ha ha! JanitorPH (talk) 20:00, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Kylie! Greetings! Is there any way you could find 30 seconds to read my draft article, and advise if improvements should be made, or if it could actually be approved, and be moved to mainspace already? Looking forward to hearing from you. Thanks! JanitorPH (talk) 18:26, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Request on 20:21:02, 21 February 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Adman511


Hello, I saw you recently reviewed my page submission for "Delta 8 (brand)" and I received and appreciated your comments. Im new to wikipedia and this is my first page I have tried to create. Could you offer me some pointers to (hopefully) pass review when I fix the errors and resubmit?

Adman511 (talk) 20:21, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Adman511 the first thing to understand is this is an encyclopedic and not for promotion and should be written from a Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. Currently it reads just like marketing. Secondly all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). You only have one source, and although not trivial it is an interview which apart from the first paragraph appears to be full direct quotes so not independent. So at the moment it fails on neutrality and on notability. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 20:43, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Request on 19:21:13, 22 February 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Kwiefling


Hi Reviewer - Thank you! I am the author of the article here: https://wiefling.com/catalytic-mechanisms-effortless-ways-to-change-behavior-for-the-better/ and I hold the rights to it, which I gladly share. Can you please help me? What do I need to do to use my own content here on Wikipedia? Thank you! - Kimberly

Kwiefling (talk) 19:21, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Kwiefling did you just add the CC BY note to the top of that source or did I miss if before? Also see Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for the general topic covering this area. However this just moves onto anther issue... Wikipedia is an Encyclopedia not a place for people to publish their own work. Content here should be backed by reliable source, and to be published all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). So to be accepted you would at least need to add the sources to show notability, and the content was verifiable See Wikipedia:Verifiability. Note that I didn't actually read the content for other issues (i.e. is it neutral encyclopedic content) however the first sentence reads more like a blog/essay than an encyclopedic article on "Catalytic Mechanisms". I;ve removed the request for a speedy delete, and I hope the above gives you some pointers. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 19:44, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

NEW MESSAGE: Thank you Kylie! I just added the CC BY note in response to your helpful feedback. I get it that the concept of "Catalytic Mechanisms" is not widely written about. It's such a pity as the Harvard Business Review article by Jim Collins introduced the concept in 1999. I did include that reference to HBR. I was hoping that we could correct that. I also updated the article to be less blog/essay like. Any other advice greatly appreciated! - Kimberly — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kwiefling (talk • contribs) 19:59, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Kwiefling I would say just add what sources you can and re-submit. Note that although preferred sources do not have to be online (or freely available online) so if it has been written about in magazines, newspapers, journals etc those can be still be sources. KylieTastic (talk) 20:09, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-08

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Al Haaj Bundoo Khan

Hi, Just got notification that you review my submission Al Haaj Bundoo Khan and rejected.

Can you help me to finalize the draft and make it publishable? I will provide you the details whatever is required and available to publish this article.

Thanks waiting for your help to make this possible Fahdaltaf (talk) 19:01, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Fahdaltaf articles must be written from a Neutral point of view so phrases such as "needs no introduction as it’s the most favorite" and "Don't forget to try their signature Paratha Kabab and Chicken Tikka, an absolute must for all foodies." are what you expect in marketing not an encyclopedic article. Hope that helps and remember as a new editor you can ask for advice at the Wikipedia:Teahouse. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 19:07, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Ok Thanks, i will rewrite and submit again Fahdaltaf (talk) 19:18, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

I hope I have fixed all the issues you mentioned in my submission, can you please review and advise? Fahdaltaf (talk) 19:44, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Fahdaltaf thanks for updating and re-submitting. However to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 20:05, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Ok :) Fahdaltaf (talk) 11:02, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Merger discussion for Draft:Godi Media

An article that you have been involved in editing—Draft:Godi Media—has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. 122.179.109.33 (talk) 14:40, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Draft nidhi tiwari

You had not done proper research and declined it. Resubmitted please do research properly thanproceed ahead Ankitaatiwarii (talk) 20:32, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Ankitaatiwarii reviewers do not "research" they review bases on the sources and content presented. Having an Instagram and Facebook accounts is not notable. KylieTastic (talk) 20:43, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

The C996 in the article

Hi KylieTastic. Please note C996 (Thames Promenade) is a real route and a real highway. The route got commissioned last month. I don't know how to add a shield or how they work.

This is just for your info btw. Thanks, 61.69.229.211 (talk) 07:46, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Ranikot Fort

Hello. So apparently you reverted my changes to the Ranikot Fort page, where I basically corrected the spelling of Ranikot Fort which was misspelled in some places as "Rani kort forte". I also corrected a translation to "The great wall of Sindh" from "The Great Wall of Pakistan". Which was removed altogether. I would like to know why? 2400:ADC3:102:5400:7107:493C:ABAA:C949 (talk) 14:45, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi, I noticed your edits as you broke the image, buy 'correcting' a filename. You also changed the title of the unesco.org reference from what it actually is. I then removed the "The great wall of Sindh" / "The Great Wall of Pakistan" as it was unsourced and had been marked as such since 2018 - If you have source please feel free to add back with the reference. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 14:57, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

My bad, thank you for the response. 2400:ADC3:102:5400:7107:493C:ABAA:C949 (talk) 15:57, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello again Kylie! Apparently someone has edited the history of the Ranikot fort page without providing any sources. I request you to please contact this person and ask for sources or revert the page back to what it was originally. Thank you. 116.71.4.82 (talk) 09:50, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi 116.71.4.82 I have reverted as unsourced (and they had removed sources) - but note you could have done this yourself as any editor can challenge any unsourced additions. I haven't left a talk page notice as these edits were made several days ago. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 22:21, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

I will keep this in mind. Thank you. 116.71.4.56 (talk) 02:45, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Nice SQL query

Hey there. I ran across one of your SQL queries. [4] Just wanted to drop you a quick note and say thank you for making it. It's always cool to see stats for people using perms. I actually made a similar query for pending changes reviewers. [5] –Novem Linguae (talk) 06:14, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi –Novem Linguae thanks. It's good that quarry exists, as it's good to see actual stats. Although one day I hope to find the time to have write a bot and automate stats for AfC. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 09:26, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Review Request

Hi, I rewrote the article Draft:Marscoin with more reliable sources and references. You may have a look if it is ok now? (: Regards, Yearnst Yearnst (talk) 23:05, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Request on 12:11:58, 27 February 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by 2603:8000:D500:4FC2:7573:465C:D2AC:2BF


I don’t understand why this is not getting approved, he is really famous in Mexico. He has over 100,000 followers ln his social media. I saw him acting on a TV show that’s why I wanted to create a page for him.

I would really appreciate if you help me understand what I’m doing wrong. Thank you ! Adamlevypr (talk) 12:16, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Adamlevypr all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS) - in this case see Wikipedia:Notability (people). The Amazon profile is minimal and also from IMDB which as user created content is not a reliable source. The other source is ok, but as it's half interview/direct quotes it is not completely independent. Note that having "100,000 followers" on social media is not notable, nor is just appearing on a TV show. However if he is "really famous in Mexico" then some more in-depth independent sources should exist. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 13:13, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Donald E. Frith

Donald E. Frith draft needs approval. Let's get this going!! If there is anything you can do or you can change and help me, I would appreciate it. All is 100% done, I have referenced everything. Let's get this going!! If there is anything you can do or you can change and help me, I would appreciate it. All is 100% done, I have referenced everything. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marleyredd (talk • contribs) 21:13, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

The page is done, and all is 100% solid. Let's Approve this.Marleyredd (talk) 03:02, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Marleyredd No it's not "100% solid" and you haven't "referenced everything" - All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). You have one ref from 1960 so clearly does not support anything later,and the other ref is good but we need more to show notability. KylieTastic (talk) 10:34, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Can you help me finish it? I just need more experience to know what is needed. Please show me. I appreciate this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marleyredd (talk • contribs) 18:32, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Sorry no - I have over a thousand other articles I want finish, and thousands of others waiting for reviews. I suggest you just look for more independent references with significant coverage to show they are notable. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 21:02, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Kothadi & Draft:Jalgaon housing scam

Hi friend , I recently created two articles Draft: Kothadi ,Draft : Jalgaon housing scam but I don't know how to submit them review. Will you help me with that ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.220.85.12 (talk) 11:07, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi 106.220.85.12 both of those article are submitted for review - scroll to the bottom the yellowish box starting "Review waiting... ". Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 11:27, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Afc Statistics

Hi, hope you are doing well - do we have somewhere AfC Statistics published (Backlog per Month - How many new AfC Submissions per Month? - How many active Editors at AfC? etc.) ? CommanderWaterford (talk) 20:19, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi CommanderWaterford unfortunately unlike some other projects AfC is not currently tracked that well. There used to be a bot tracking submissions but the owner stopped running it. There was also User:Primefac/AFCStats but most is not updated now. I use Quarry for some stats such as reviews in the last 24hours/week/month and daily number of reviews (see https://quarry.wmflabs.org/KylieTastic). I keep meaning to find time to write a bot to do tracking, but at the moment have little time and no energy for more coding (as it's my day job)... maybe one day. So for now it's just what we can get via quarry. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 20:34, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
    KylieTastic, I see, well, thanks for the info. CommanderWaterford (talk) 20:51, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Scatter Records creation

Hi there. I'm the user who tries to create this Wikipedia article. I do believe that it deserves to be on the encyclopedia because it's a notable subject. It's an argentine record label that manages many musical bands and has its own website. I didn't add any more info at first because I intended to add them afterwards. Greetings. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.195.107.55 (talk) 22:45, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi 190.195.107.55 Draft:Scatter Records is not remotely an article and with no sources does not indicate that it "deserves to be on the encyclopedia" as you state. Your intension to add afterwords is not how Wikipedia works, and if it is as notable as you say adding a few sentences and independent reliable sources should be no problem. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 22:53, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Understood. I still believe that Scatter Records as innocent as it might seem, is really notable for the encyclopedia. It has its own website which has all of the info about it. You should check it out and help me to create it here, please. This is the website: https://scatterrecords.bandcamp.com/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.195.107.55 (talk) 23:04, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Chapter One: The Hellfire Club

Could you please "re-review" my draft: "Chapter One: The Hellfire Club"? You reviewed it in January but declined it. I have now got eighteen references, the Stranger Things template, a Contents box, ten sections and an information box. It is FAR better than the last time you checked it. Cheers. User: 150.143.172.2, March 3 2021, 12:21

If ANYONE would like to review my draft, here is the link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Chapter_One:_The_Hellfire_Club — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.199.189.161 (talk) 14:14, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi 146.199.189.161, yes much improved from the first unsourced version. However to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. So unless you can find a reviewer with particular interest in the topic you'll just have to wait for someone to get around to it. Unfortunately we have more submissions that reviewers at the moment, so the backlog it depressingly big. KylieTastic (talk) 15:07, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

That's fine, thanks for replying. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.199.189.161 (talk) 15:09, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

help

Hey please can you help me i can’t publish my article Stneduc (talk) 21:19, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Submission Declined 'Aadha_Love'

Hi, I am a regular user/reader of Wikipedia, and I want to start my contribution. To learn I submitted the following article as I just saw the movie and found out that there was no page of the aforesaid movie.

Draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Aadha_Love

Please suggest what should I do change in the article so that it is approved. I have referenced a major newspaper in Nepal and other review websites. What should I do next. Please suggest as I am new to it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sujansiddhi (talk • contribs) 14:19, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Sujansiddhi you did the correct thing adding more sources and resubmitting. What any reviewer will be using as a guide is Wikipedia:Notability (films) so if you can find any more full reviews that will help show it's notable. It is submitted so will be reviewed in due time. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 14:42, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

User:CreepyCoder/sandbox/Creepy Adventure Pack

Thanks ill find a place that's supports my project.

CreepyCoder (talk) 17:46, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

help

Pleaseeeee I’m new and it’s important to publish this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mohamed_Setrala help please can you edit it or do something or publish it on your page please Stneduc (talk) 10:33, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Stneduc it may be important to you but itis not important to Wikipedia. All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Draft:Mohamed Setrala is an unsourced article about someone who does not appear to be notable - See Wikipedia:Notability (people). Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 10:53, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

You mean that i can’t publish the article ?? Stneduc (talk) 12:46, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Stneduc, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia not a place for what looks more than a fan page - the subject does not appear to be notable (WP:BIO) and the article has no references. KylieTastic (talk) 12:57, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Can you tell me what should i do for make it as an article by the way it’s not a fan page is an article for fashion model. Stneduc (talk) 13:07, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Jacksonville Theological Seminary

Hello, you declined [[6]]. You said, a seminary has no need for a Wikipedia site, since they have their homepage. This is a mistake. I studied at Luther Rice Seminary, which also does almost only online degrees: Luther Rice Seiminary: [[7]]. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:171B:C9AF:28E0:7D4C:1E6F:C9D5:C166 (talk) 14:23, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

final help

Hey again kylie I’ve made the necessary changes can you review now thank you ❤️

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mohamed_Setrala Stneduc (talk) 13:47, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

What ??? Stneduc (talk) 16:28, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Where can i get that source?? Stneduc (talk) 16:30, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Do you that i can’t write an article for this person ???????? Stneduc (talk) 16:32, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Mean* Stneduc (talk) 16:32, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Stneduc as said before all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Wikipedia is not a place for people just to write anything without reliable sources - that's what social media is for. KylieTastic (talk) 19:51, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

The information I'm missing for my draft

Hello there. What are the stuff I am missing or are incorrect in my draft? Reviews, improper grammar, low on citation, not enough links? I hope you have a great day! ^^ RayJstillhere (talk) 13:55, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the help! RayJstillhere (talk) 05:03, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Request on 05:58:30, 6 March 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Avontia


Hello, I have added references as needed. Looking forward to approvals.

Avontia (talk) 05:58, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Lucy McCarraher biography

Hi Kylietastic,

Many thanks for your contribution to the references. I think I may have inadvertently destroyed your handiwork by reponding to a previous comment that I hadn't inserted them properly before realising what you had done. Would you be able to reinstate them?

Also, why is IMDb not a credible source?

Many thanks for your help - I don't find any of this easy!

Verity — Preceding unsigned comment added by DamesnetV (talk • contribs) 12:46, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi DamesnetV you haven't done anything bad to Draft:Lucy McCarraher your edit after mine just added lines between the bibliography list items. This also doe not actually affect the output as a list can have zero or one newline between each entry. IMDB is not a valid source as it's user generated content (same as Wikis including Wikipedia), see WP:IMDB. With mainstream films and well known people it is usually correct but unfortunately a lot of people wanting a Wikipedia article create an IMDB one first, or they add themselves to films they were not in, or change the date of birth to appear younger, etc. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 13:25, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Ethanchandlershaw

I have a concern about the image that this editor has added to the infobox for Help Wanted (SpongeBob SquarePants). Long history of adding photos.google.com . David notMD (talk) 16:40, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Draft:LINBIT

Hi KylieTastic, I saw you were editing/reviewing our drafted company page in mid February and wanted to know if there is something I can do to get this further? Cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by Opensourcer vienna (talk • contribs) 18:11, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Opensourcer vienna unfortunately it's just a waiting game as the review process is overloaded and has way more submitters than reviewers. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 18:18, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

User:Rob247/sandbox

Dear Kyletastic: you recently denied my posting for Herbert Patterson User:Rob247/sandbox. You cited a lack of references from reliable sources, you suggested or inferred the individual was not important enough to merit their own page. My response is thus: Yes he is not a famous person. I watched a film with him in on one of the major pay for view providers, (which arguably puts him in front of many millions of other people too). I looked for more information and discovered Wikipedia had no information on him and i decided to remedy this situation. I dont think Wikipedia should not have a notability level? He is not well referenced? This is because he was a minor actor but no less important i would argue Than Steve McQueen etc. If you are going to delete it then go ahead - other than linking this page to his wife's page (also a minor actor who is on wikipedia???) i have nothing more i can reliably add for the reasons i have given, so this effort hardly seems worth it. Rather than delete my work, reflect as i have done and you consider what the concept of 'Famous enough' is for an encyclopedia that for the first time in human history covers all things for all people? None of the information i have added is inaccurate so may act to inform others - why should this harmless and possibly helpful page be deleted? Is this about the rules more than the service? May i also observe that if this page is posted it may encourage those who knew him better than i to provide the missing information - isnt that the point of all of this? (Cyberspace is - or can be - a good, friendly and egalitarian place to meet. Douglas Adams (cited and famous) ) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rob247 (talk • contribs) 13:57, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Rob247 all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). In this case Wikipedia:Notability (people) or WP:NACTOR. As Wikipedia can be edited by anyone and there are no staff, no editorial team to make decisions on individual cases we have to use these guidelines built from consensus. They are not perfect but with out them this would become like another social media site full of promotion and lies. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 14:43, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi KylieTastic thanks for the quick response. I'm sorry that we disagree and that my page will be deleted. But your policy has a dilemma- saying significant existing coverage and notability means noone who isn't already noted elsewhere can be added. ok to stop self-promotion but how do you grow and be comprehensive and inclusive? You seem to be a reasonable guy but despite stating there are no editors - that is the position you've taken. The page is factually accurate and contains information not held elsewhere on the web. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rob247 (talk • contribs) 19:11, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

reFill

Hi KylieTastic, just a quick question: how do I use reFill 2? I come across pages during new page patrol with bare references and find it difficult to expand the citations manually. I see editors using "refill2" but I'm not sure how to use it. --Ashleyyoursmile! 16:09, 7 March 2021 (UTC) 

mw.loader.load( "https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Zhaofeng_Li/Reflinks.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript" ); // ReFill
or if you don't want it to auto watch
mw.loader.load( "https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Zhaofeng_Li/Reflinks.js&action=raw&nowatch=y&ctype=text/javascript" );  // ReFill
you will then get "reFill 2" (and reFill as well still for an unknown reason) on your left have tools menu. See User:Zhaofeng Li/reFill for more.
Just be careful as it mostly gets things correct but sometimes goes bad: such as adding junk... usually to first and last fields; also some sites redirect to a login so you loose the actual target (such as instagram) so need manual fixup (or remove if not a valid source). Hope that helps. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 16:19, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
KylieTastic, thank you very much. I've added it to my common.js page. :) Ashleyyoursmile! 16:22, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Ashleyyoursmile another one you may like to add as I see you don't have it is Headbombs unreliable ref highlighter. KylieTastic (talk) 16:24, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
importScript('User:Headbomb/unreliable.js' ); // Backlink: [[User:Headbomb/unreliable.js]] - color highlight unreliable refs
Wow, thank you very much. The tool works miracles. :) --Ashleyyoursmile! 16:28, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Draft:International Academic Competitions

Hi KylieTastic! I made some edits to my draft of the International Academic Competitions and would sincerely appreciate some feedback or another review to see if the submission can be accepted this time around. Thank you for your time and consideration! BrinaWiki9 (talk) 19:57, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi BrinaWiki9 "some edits" is a modest description... you have done quite a lot of edits - so thanks for the work and re-submitting. However to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 20:29, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Ah, that makes sense. Thanks!! BrinaWiki9 (talk) 21:11, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Emiway Bantai (Indian rapper)

Do you feel like an advertisement in reading the Emiway Bantai draft. Don't know why the reviewer didn't accept it. I have made submissions again by making some changes to it. If you feel like reading this, please correct it and accept it. I hope you please don't disappoint me. Thanks 223.238.217.193 (talk) 09:49, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi 223.238.217.193 if you don't know why a reviewer thought is read like an advertisement and declined it you should ask them not me. Or use the "ask us a question" at the AfC Help Desk link on the decline notice. KylieTastic (talk) 12:11, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Is it forbidden to delete the sections in my talk section?

I don't know if you can see but I have sections created by the staff/volunteers like you. I wonder, is it prohibited to clear those sections? -RayJ (talk) 12:23, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi RayJstillhere I see you noticed your signature issue names are case sensitive if you want to change see Wikipedia:Changing username. To answer the question, yes it is fine to remove or archive most messages on your own talk page. There are some you shouldn't but I dont have a list, but they are the serious sort of admin messages such as if a user is blocked. So yes your free to keep your talk page tidy. Also we are all volenteers just lilke you no staff at all. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 14:07, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for the imformation! -RayJ (talk) 12:23, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Request on 02:57:58, 14 March 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Aria Moayerian


Hi there,

Thanks for your time to review my submitted article about Jalaledin Moayerian My submission is declined and I have been asked to provide reliable sources. I tried to provide all available sources for verification but it would be appreciated if you could let me know for which items there is need the reliable sources.

Your anticipated attention is highly appreciated.

Thanks, Aria

Aria Moayerian (talk) 02:57, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi Kylie,

Thanks for your time to reply and provide the useful information about my article Jalaledin Moayerian. I added the required Independent Reliable Sources as per your advice. Just as an "For Your Information" there are many reliable sources for this article but they are in Farsi (Persian Language) so, I just provided the ones in English and I hope they are good enough for your approval.

Please let me know if there is need for further information.

Your anticipated attention is highly appreciated. Thanks, Aria — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aria Moayerian (talk • contribs) 18:28, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Aria Moayerian although English sources are preferred there is no problem using other language sources especially any which are really good (significant coverage of the topic, completely independent and a reliable source) to show notability. Note that IMDB is not a reliable source (see WP:IMDB) - but is OK in the external links section. So remove IMDB, add any really good Farsi sources and re-submit. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 18:35, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Draft Ignite India

Hi please help to improve this article as per Wikipedia policy. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omsaipower2021 (talk • contribs) 19:44, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Jalaledin Moayerian

Hi Kylie,

Thanks for your prompt review and your advices. I amended the article (Jalaledin Moayerian) as per your provided comments and resubmit it. I hope the provided sources are good enough for verification purpose. Please let me know if I should provide more supporting information.

Thanks and best regards, Aria — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aria Moayerian (talk • contribs) 22:34, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Ignite India draft

Hi please help to improve draft and remove delegation tag from draft Of Ignite India . Please Omsaipower2021 (talk) 14:40, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Please Help Draft Ignite India

Please help in removing speedy deletion tag and improve article . I will be thankful to you . Please help .Omsaipower2021 (talk) 15:37, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

  • No. A speedy deletion is an admin issue to resolve, put a reason why it shouldn't on the talk page as indicated. KylieTastic (talk) 15:49, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Emiway Bantai (Indian rapper)

Give your vote - Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Emiway Bantai (Indian rapper) 𝐃𝐚𝐝𝐚𝐑𝐚𝐰𝐚𝐧🇮🇳 02:38, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Help to create a page

About Draft: Moti ram arya school Hi i have been trying to create a page of a school but first time it was rejected citing that there were less sources but now i have added many sources and cited them at appropriate places can you please give them a look if it is good to go--101.0.41.115 (talk) 14:43, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi 101.0.41.115 thanks for adding sources and re-submitting. However to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 19:24, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

DIY & Crafts Draft declined please help

Hello recently today you have declined a draft that i have created about facebook page DIY & Crafts.

https://www.facebook.com/DIYCraftsTV/

can you help me and let me know what i need to do to be accepted this wiki? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Innawiki (talk • contribs) 20:31, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Innawiki all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS) - in this case see Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). So trivial listings like companies house do not help, in fact they just look like ref padding. The companies own website and facebook are neither independent or reliable, so your not left with much. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 20:37, 16 March 2021 (UTC)


Any example source that is accepted? i have added news release as well. do that works? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Innawiki (talk • contribs) 20:40, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Innawiki if by "news release" you mean a release by the company then no because it is not independent - you need sources written by others that had a reason of there own to write about the company. KylieTastic (talk) 20:45, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Submission review

Thanks for reviewing my submission, Kylietastic

Thanks for the tips. I've added in more supporting references. I hope that helps.

All best wishes B — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bimblebuster (talk • contribs) 21:57, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Reviewing Gábor Klaniczay

Thanks for reviewing the draft about Gábor Klaniczay, and suggesting that I should provide sources. (Indeed, I should have to begin with.) A query: do I understand right that there is a typo in your note, meaning that Klaniczay may *be* notable (but sources should be added)?

Best: StB (talk) 22:39, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi StB yes a stupid typo - this pandemic has started to affect me this last couple of months... been making mistakes like that at work as well :/ As a general glance appears to pass Wikipedia:Notability (academics) but it's not really my area. The only comment from a quick look as it's late and I'm too tired for any serious contemplation is the lead section should have a reference. Statues such as being a professor, titulary professor, fellow and date of births should be sourced (can re-use another of the sources if they cover). But generally very much improved. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 22:49, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Spinalcord.com

Hello Kylie, You recently reviewed my page in draft and it was deemed not sufficient enough to be a wiki page. I am just curious as I have seen similar pages with a paragraph and they are still up and seem to be a sufficient enough page to exist. I don't want to really mention the page as it is not my goal to list another page that may result in them gettin "fact checked" which I do not think will happen since they have been a page in rotation for years. I have read those guidlines suggested and still fail to see where I am coming up short. ANY feedback would be greatly appreciated! THANK YOU!SeanRMull (talk) 12:05, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi SeanRMull yes firstly the WP:Other stuff exists point never helps as either the differences have been missed or the other articles are bad/against policy and get deleted. Any article that is already in main-space that is not notable can be flagged for deletion via Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. As for Draft:Spinalcord.com all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Ref 1: own website - not independent; Ref 2 says they got an award but no depth and award is extremely niche; Ref 3 just a listing, no depth; Ref 4 does not mention Spinalcord; Ref 5 does not mention Spinalcord; Ref 5 passing mention and not independent; Ref 7 no value as a notability source at all. Hope that explains things - see Wikipedia:Notability (web) and Wikipedia:Notability for more details. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 21:32, 22 March 2021 (UTC)


  • THANK YOU! KylieTastic This does clear a lot of things up for me. I will tighten up everything and do some more research and hopefully come back with a page that does meet the requirements!


Ref 1: This is the wayback machine. It is not spinalcord.com. This is to show that Spinalcord.com was started in 2000 and re launched more than a decade later.
Ref 2: I can go into the award more I am sure by doing research but I cannot control it's niche level....
Ref 3: It is where I obtain information on the Dr. who medically reviews this site. This information was used to build the brief bio on her. Is this not depth...?
Ref 4: This is used again for the bio for the Dr. I was aware there was no mention of spinalcord.com on this page. This was mainly used for the educational background of their Dr. who reviews the articles.
Ref 5: same as above
Ref 7: I will alexa page rank as I have seen this used on multiple pages if that is a more notable source."
thank you again so much for your feedback. I will try this editing process again! — Preceding unsigned comment added by SeanRMull (talk • contribs) 12:19, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Jess LaCroix

I would like to know why did you remove my Jess LaCroix ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tyon Reed (talk • contribs) 19:28, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Tyon Reed would you have preferred that it was just put up for deletion like your previous creations? All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). You have 1 source, no indication of notability and most of the content is unsourced. KylieTastic (talk) 19:32, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

I'm not stupid but i do know that Sir Tyon Reed (talk) 19:34, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Draft: Jazba the Band

Hello Reviewer,

Hope this message finds you well.

Well, you can guess my reason for being here. My draft was rejected. And it's confusing why it was.

According to the link put up for rejection and the criteria required to be included as part of the Music genre entry, Jazba the Band entry ticks off every requirement.

1) They have an album released.
2) They have been cited by international news agencies.
3) They have won awards.
4) They have been acknowledged by renowned journalists.
5) They have been number one for weeks for their various entries in their particular field.

The citations, references and acknowledgements are all contained within the Draft itself as External Links including leading news outlets like TRT World and newspapers such as Dawn including published authors.

Obviously it is a work in progress as it is and since it does require that I take some time out of my busy schedule, it will remain a work in progress for a long time to come. So apologies beforehand if I sound naïve or unknowledgeable, but I don't grasp the proper reason for rejection. Since as already stated it checks off every requirement needed for an entry into the cadre of musicians in Wikipedia the rejection remains a quandary.

If not too much bother at all, would you kindly explain what it is that this particular entry is lacking apart from being unfinished?

Thanks and regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jazbanaut (talk • contribs) 02:09, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Jazbanaut they may be notable but the sourcing at the moment does not show that - see Help:Referencing for beginners. As the for links provided there own YouTube channel isn't counted as not independent but the fact it only has 230 subscribers did make it look like this was not a notable band. Also blogs and discog are not considered reliable sources (WP:RS). The criteria in WP:MUSICBIO does not include just releasing an album as notable. The patari.pk link is just a listing. The dawn.com link you've listed twice but is an OK source and if "...the most critically acclaimed political pop songs in Pakistani history" is true I would have thought other sources exist? and the trtworld.com sources is OK, but both of these last two sources are mostly about this one song rather than the band in general. The claim of the song and album being no 1 in the chart is notable, but it's currently unsourced. You say they have won awards but the article does not say, and not sourced. Also most of the information is unsourced. So its not that I'm saying they are not notable... but as the decline notice says the "... references do not show... " it at the moment. I hope that helps explain things. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 13:31, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Kylietastic,

That explanation was clear and succinct.

Thank you for taking the time and effort to look into my entry and explain what may be lacking in my draft. Much appreciated.

The Dawn.com link listed twice was a mistake has been corrected and Nadeem F. Paracha's citation is fixed. The band is from the 90s. A lot was said and spoken about this band in the 90s both in print and moving media. As is customary from everything from the 90s, there was no internet like today so much of what was written and said about the band has been covered over by the sands of time. They are there and I am making efforts to see if maybe I can unearth as much from media archives as possible hence my assertion that this article once submitted will remain a work in progress. It will grow over time as more and more substance comes to me. Right now I am simply chasing more sources as time permits. The citations and references to other songs which garnered acclaim are also eluding me for now. I will be compiling a detailed table of the songs and the issues we dealt with. A story which was published in Jang about the fact that during the peace talks between Pakistan and India, the Indian commission specifically requested that our song not be aired again as a gesture of peace is also eluding me. Again, this will require diving into the archives. Like I said, it will eventually come together.

Obviously since I am a newbie to Wikipedia, I am faced with a bit of a learning curve when it comes to submitting. My current expertise mainly revolves around opening a random Wiki and copy pasting contents for formatting.

I will definitely make the required changes as time permits and resubmit with the desired sourcing changes.

Thanks and regards.

  • Hey Jazbanaut we were all newbies once and to be honest even after years and hundreds of thousands of edits I'm still learning - as a new editor do ask at the Wikipedia:Teahouse if you have general questions. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 18:46, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Your contribution is not something I take lightly. The dedication you and the likes of Steven Pruitt show to preserving, curating and upkeeping this knowledge database is not lost on me. I grew up in a time without internet but Encarta was around but it was static. The value I place on this repository of living and growing knowledge is priceless. I just want Jazba to be part of it even if it's just as a passive reference to something that once was. And in its heydays, it really was as this article will elaborate... And more sources are uncovered.

Thanks again and regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jazbanaut (talk • contribs) 19:15, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Quarry Query

@KylieTastic Do not wait for the result, it does not work for several hours, already raised a ticket CommanderWaterford (talk) 11:44, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

  • KylieTastic yup I saw your post so thought I'd check as well. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 11:46, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
    I am pretty disappointed about the outcome of their "update", seems that they did not do any beta test at all. CommanderWaterford (talk) 11:50, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
    Why are you pinging yourself?! ;-) ;-) ;-) CommanderWaterford (talk) 11:51, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
    CommanderWaterford oh ffs (trouts self)! Yes that is the level my mind is working at the moment... too many real life issues and lack of sleep. KylieTastic (talk) 12:23, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

A cup of espresso for you!

;-) Have a nice day CommanderWaterford (talk) 12:25, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Very confused!

Jimfbleak I'm totally confused - I have never had more than one account, and I know no one uses my home IP for editing, I do edit from work sometime but I doubt anyone there does.. I can't even imagine what could have cause this? I don't edit in anyway that having a second account would help. looking at the other accounts blocked by Jim at the same time gives no clue apart from I declined two of the attempts to create an article about Craig Goodliffe see User talk:Gten0721 and User talk:Irbsnspices15. I obviously can't see the deleted articles, but I do formatting as such as I go though AfC submissions so I may have edited them in a minor way, but I also rejected them! I'm really hoping that this is just in error? KylieTastic (talk) 13:30, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Unblocked now, entirely my error, guess I hid the wrong line as I rampaged through the real socks, I know your account anyway, so why I still managed to do it I can only blame on stupidity, my apologies Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:37, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Thanks Jimfbleak - but that was a hell of a shock, actually set my heart pounding! Oh well, cardio workout complete for the day. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 13:41, 28 March 2021 (UTC)


James Hill (Mississippi politician)

Greeting KylieTastic. Exciting times.

I would be happy to have help with this subject if you're interested. I left some comments on the talk page. FloridaArmy (talk) 15:14, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

The other one I was thinking of was Draft:Samuel Bampfield. Website about him. I won't be offended at all if you want to start a fresh draft for him. I think there may be two notable of the same name? A doctor in W.V. and a politician in South Carolina? Or maybe it's the same person. I'd be very happy to have help sorting the info out and the subject seems interesting. Thanks. If it's not your cup of tea no worries. Thanks for all your help. FloridaArmy (talk) 15:32, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Bare URL

Hello, I am currently reviewing this draft Draft:Mohammed Ziauddin Ahmed Shakeb. It contains lot of bare URL. I am not experienced in fixing it. Can you help me ? Kichu🐘 Need any help? 05:57, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Kichu I would help if I could easily but the tool we normally use is currently down due to changes WikiMediia made on the back-end. We've been waiting for a while but no news when/if it will be fixed. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 09:45, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Thankyou KylieTastic. This draft is almost ready to be accepted. But still needs some work. Thankyou for your response. Regards Kichu🐘 Need any help? 09:47, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Hey Kichu the tool was fixed thanks to someone stepping up to fix - so done now. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 22:38, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Article

Why my article rejected? Arun114 (talk) 13:55, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Arun114 as the decline notice states "This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article". All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS) Regards KylieTastic (talk) 14:05, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Shirsendu Mondol

Hlw Mr/Mrs KylieTastic

can I get in touch with you regarding publishing my page to wiki?

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shirshaw64 (talk • contribs) 14:32, 31 March 2021 (UTC)


Draft: Austin Viens-DeRuisseau Rejected

Hi, My draft seemed to be instantly rejected and I feel like this wasn't given the proper chance for the page to even be looked at. There are several wikipedias that have barely little to no information on them but have been approved. I am confused on what I needed for my draft to be approved. I am having an article written about my music site, will that work? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AustinVD (talk • contribs)

Thanks!

  • Hi AustinVD first it was not rejected but declined - the difference being rejected is generally the end, declined can be just the the sources do not yet show notability. Notability (See WP:N) is done first via sources so that was all that was required for a decline. The fact the Wikipedia:Other stuff exists does not help. Before current controls many not notable/poorly sourced articles were created they are slowly being improved or deleted. All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 18:53, 31 March 2021 (UTC)


Thanks for the response, so if I were to get more articles about my publications, would this help the page not be rejected for the next time? Over the next few months, I hope to have more information written about my projects and releases but at the moment, I don't have enough. Can I keep my draft as a draft until then? (I know I need to update it every so often in order for it to be seen as active still).

  • Hi AustinVD unless you do something that is noted by independent reliable sources it is unlikely to be accepted. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia not social media or LinkedIn. "Articles generally require significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the topic" (see WP:42). However unless someone challenges on copyright or promotion it will not generally be deleted unless unedited for 6 months. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 19:05, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Kostka Bojana

Dear Kyle,

Good day to you. I wrote to you on several occasions but I haven't received a response. The article "Kostka Bojana" that you helped me move to Serbian Wikipedia is published and live on Serbian Wikipedia and as such I assume its being accepted. I did the translation of this article on English, however, its still being reviewed and I haven't received any response from editors here in Wikipedia. If the article is accepted in Serbian, why is it taking so long to be accepted in English Wikipedia even tho I translated article on English language and backed it up with reliable sources that are about the artist I am writing about. At this point, I don't know what I am doing wrong and I would like to kindly ask you for your assistance. Thank you in advance. Kind regards, Dusan Rajic (talk) 16:52, 2 April 2021 (UTC)Dusan Rajic

  • Hi Dusan Rajic where did you write to me, as I see no posts here (or in my Archives)? Note that if you write somewhere else without triggering a notification others are unlikely to notice (See Help:Notifications - but is short is means 'mentioning' a user and signing the edit). Each language Wikipedia has its own rules and guidelines, they tend to start with less to encourage editors then as they get larger add more rules to control content. English Wikipedia being the largest in content and in readership probably has the most strict rules. As for why it is taking so long that's unfortunately because there are more submissions than volunteer reviewers can handle and the system is very backlogged - See Category:AfC pending submissions by age for how many are waiting by age. I try to do a quick check of most submissions on day one to catch any quick issues so people don't have to 4 months to be told the obvious, but after than it can be a long wait. So in short you haven't done anything wrong it just hasn't been reviewed since you last submitted so sorry but it's just a case of waiting unless you can find a reviewer interested in the subject. I have added a couple of wiki-projects to the talk page that sometimes attracts people. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 17:10, 2 April 2021 (UTC)


Dear Kyle,

Thank you very much for your fast response, I was worried I was doing something wrong. Would you be so kind to explain to me what did you mean by "unless you can find a reviewer interested in the subject"? Thank you in advance. Dusan Rajic (talk) 17:30, 2 April 2021 (UTC)Dusan Rajic

  • Hi Dusan Rajic sometimes there are reviewers or other experienced editors that have interests in subject areas and happy to help move things along quicker. It's unlikely there are many with an interest in "nail designers" but maybe some with any topic related to Serbians - unfortunately Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Serbia does not appear very active, and no reviewer has indicated an interest at WP:AFC/RBS. Also sometimes editors interested in certain topic areas come across others with the same interests and work together. So it's probably just waiting, and hopefully we'll get more volunteers come back. Cheers KylieTastic (talk)

Yves Hayat modification

Dear Kylie Thank for your advices. I'm a French artist and it's not so easy for me. Following your advices, I completed with other art shows and add many Wiki and external links. This page in english is the exact replication of my French "Yves Hayat" page which is on line since months. I know you are busy, but when you have a moment, thanks to tell me what I must change Best regards Yves HayatYves Hayat (talk) 11:01, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Dear Kylie, thank a lot for your explainations, you have a fantastic clearness. It helps me. Thanks really.Yves Hayat (talk) 09:09, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

The_eSync_Alliance Review

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:The_eSync_Alliance

  1. Our original submission was declined in November, We re-submitted
  2. I see your name listed 55 days ago.
  3. Did you have any feedback for us? Not sure if I missed what we need to fix?
  4. I ask since it's been 4 months since the second submission

Appreciate your voluntary work.

Thanks

eSync Alliance Working Group — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:641:c000:44f0:2096:85ee:553d:4f75 (talk • contribs)

  • Hi, that tiny edit I made was just due to my investigating an issue that stopped drafts being categorised by age thus stuck. I did not actually look at the draft. The submission was at 2020-12-17 so it wont have been four months until the 17th, and there are already ~350 others that have already hit 4+ months. Unfortunately the system is super backlogged the same with many other parts of Wikipedia having both an increase in work and decrease in volunteers at this time - for some unknown reason(s). In this case also I have not seen any reviewer with an interest in a subject area that would cover this. The key thing is to make sure it passes Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS) (So the PR refs wont count for that). Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 09:44, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Purple Star

The Purple Star The Purple Star
Awarded because you have faced 109 vandalism attempts at your userpageSaturn Lover! (talk) 16:50, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Starship SN11

My draft was rejected by you. I added new references. Can you review it again please? 64.121.103.144 (talk) 17:33, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

regarding decline of my first page post

KylieTastic, continuously declining publish request for Jai_TV page. this page is about official multilang portl. May be the is page is not upto the standard of wikipedia because I am new on wiki and its my first page post, and trying to update some real info on wiki, but first page post declination demorlising me, and forcing me not to write anymore on wiki. Kindly approve now, so that i can keep updating good and real info wikipedia family. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.42.108.223 (talk) 06:57, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

  • 157.42.108.223 all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Wikipedia is an encyclopedia not a place to promote - that is what social media is for. If significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources does not exist then it is just not notable enough (yet) for an English Wikipedia article. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 10:22, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

Delete of my introduction - obviously in the wrong box?

I think, it is clear to me the reason, why my introduction in the sandbox had been deleted. I suppose I accidentically set it into the wrong directory. I suppose, the sandbox is the same as the "Spielwiese" of the german Wikipedia - a room for developing an article or paragraphs and saving them until they are ready to be published. Bur I do not know, if an introduction of myself is needed. So I did not dare to write anything like this again. I just intended to be polite and I would be looking forward to instructions, how to to this in a correct manner, but I apologize for having caused troubles. I am so late answering you, because I had been a little bit confused, how to deal with it. Wish a happy Easter time and stay healthy--Bockpeterteuto (talk) 09:40, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Bockpeterteuto your sandbox (User:Bockpeterteuto/sandbox) appears to have been deleted at your request from the logs. From my notice on your talk page (User talk:Bockpeterteuto) it looks like you wrote an introduction about yourself but then submitted it to Articles for creation as an encyclopedic article so I pointed you to Wikipedia:User pages. What you have done now is correct and put the introduction on your main user page (User:Bockpeterteuto). Yes your sandbox User:Bockpeterteuto/sandbox is a place for you to develop articles or just to practice editing and is your own space. Yes I think Spielwiese is the term German Wikipedia uses but it does not appear to have a personal link at the top-right menu as English Wikipedia does. To be clear the problem was not what you wrote but just that you submitted it as an article - but don't worry you are not the first or last to think this is a general approval request rather than just for full articles. However User:Bockpeterteuto is the correct place for introductions as the default signatures link to a users main page and their talk page. Hope that makes sense, and we were all new and learning at some point and most of us not going it in a second language. Viel Spaß beim Bearbeiten KylieTastic (talk) 10:28, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Request on 12:42:22, 5 April 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by 64.121.103.144


You declined Draft:Starship SN11. How do I fix it to make it better?


64.121.103.144 (talk) 12:42, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi 64.121.103.144 all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Unfortunately I'm not sure that the world outside of SpaceX and has paid enough attention to meet the standards required. However if you look on the submit and decline notice see the section "Editor resources" and I would start with "news". Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 13:01, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Hey again

Hey! I wrote a draft for Cody Reeder a while back, and you gave some great advice. I believe you told me it would take maximum two months for it to be reviewed when resubmitted, but so far nothing. Would you have time to check it out you think?Euor (talk) 11:42, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Euor I have some issues to deal with IRL so stepping back a bit - sorry. Unfortunately the backlog is depressingly long Category:AfC pending submissions by age - Maybe try the help desk or live link in the "Where to get help" section of the decline/submit notices. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 16:10, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
I understand. Apologies for the inconvenience. I hope it works itself out fast, and I wish you all the best. Euor (talk) 17:01, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Nomination of St. George High School, Chempanthotty for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article St. George High School, Chempanthotty is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/St. George High School, Chempanthotty until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.

I have added this notice to your talk page as I have seen you have either contributed to the article recently or have had an impact on the article's content, and therefore I believe you may wish to contribute to the AfD discussion. Thank you. Mxtt.prior (talk) 11:30, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Request on 16:23:37, 7 April 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Lucasraven12

Lucasraven12 (talk) 16:23, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Joe Murphy

Hi KylieTastic. To let you know of my submission of an article for the silent movie actor, Joe Murphy. I was aware that you rejected a submission of an article on this subject in late February for good reasons. I've reworked the entry, rechecked and added material and references, and removed contentious sources. I hope that you will find this work acceptable. On the issue of notability WP:N I am persuaded that the referenced recent National Film Preservation Foundation on Murphy's work and an (admittedly small) number of book publications alongside contemporary newspaper accounts (some newly referenced) amount to notability of the subject as a comic silent movie star who fairly briefly was widely renowned and made an improtant contribution to the early movie shorts playing an American icon. Hoping you are happy with this. Thank you for your work here. Bob (talk) 16:47, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Apologies - tha page link is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Murphy_(actor) Bob (talk) 16:55, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Hey Bob a name that after all these years still instantly makes be remember Bob in Blackadder II and how Rowan Atkinson said it. It took a mo for me to find how I had interacted with this (aka Draft:Joseph Murphy (actor)) which when I reviewed had just one source. I see that the page has already been patrolled by a NPP so I see no reason to second judge. If you want to improve though I would suggest: Add a reference or two to the lead; replace the "Find A Grave" source as although they are often generally correct they are unsourced and often contain some errors and sometimes just plain wrong and per WP:RSPSOURCES is considered "Generally unreliable" and the root sources usually exist 'somewhere'; Also addressing the categories tag would be good. After all the people who have to go via AfC/Draft saying "accept this junk" having someone who has taken time and thought on an article already in mainspace to ask for a secondary opinion is so refreshing, and although the article could do with some improvements the foundation is there and they do appear notable. Good work in rescuing an abandoned draft - you may wish to message the originator as they claim to have created as a distant relative. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 21:03, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
    • KylieTastic Thanks for the reply. I see Category is already being populated. I'll look at my research and see whether I can replace the "Find A Grave" sources with others - possibly some of the newspaper cuttings I've accrued. I've been in touch with the originator of the earlier article to point up the reworked article. Best Bob (talk) 09:11, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Following complete set up direction

Well, I have actually come across multiple, upon multiple mistakes that "I" personally have come across. Which in all honesty, and by all means. Surely was not my intention by any means..?

I understand that by far. Setting standard's, as well as fulfilling each and every requirement necessary. Is "Key", in being able to make the impossible to some and or most?

Possible...

Reaching out, this day. In being able to receive feedback. To be able to recognize my own mistakes, so that I might be able to reach the requirements necessary. To be able to move forward...

Bigcook12345.eth Bigcook12345 (talk) 11:14, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Pewdiecake2music keeps getting rejected

hey can you please help me with my page i need a page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coolbland (talk • contribs) 20:34, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Coolbland all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS) - in this case see WP:MUSICBIO KylieTastic (talk) 20:37, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Ethernet spider

Dear Kylie,

It seems that not everyone is aware about the dates. The page - a really obvious 1. April tech joke - was marked as hoax and almost instantly deleted. And the support lines were pretty busy not answering, so the page was deleted before I could get any (not a decent, ANY) answer, how to modify it to preserve. If the answer is "no such articles are permitted", I must show you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Write-only_memory_(joke) Discrimination is NOT acceptable.

Thanks, TDG

  • Thedeveloperguy sadly I was aware of the date although in the old days it only lasted till midday - but now appears to linger as long as it's April 1st somewhere in the world. As for Write-only memory (joke) it has sources which in the end is the key to all articles, and as far as I remember your article looked to be just made up by yourself - so not backed by multiple independent reliable sources. It is not discrimination as all new articles have the same standards applied. Any existing articles that were created before the current standards and do not meet them can be put up for deletion - See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Also I just declined it, I did not flag for deletion as I see no harm in letting it live in draft for a bit - someone else did and an admin agreed. Also you complain that you could not get ANY answer to preserve but you did... Liz kindly offered on you talk page to move it to your user-space to preserve it, and as an administrator she has the ability to recover it from deletion to your area. KylieTastic (talk) 13:28, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

As a tech joke, starting such a joke article is pretty impossible if it's your idea. The Write-only memory (joke) was made by a company and they could have published a datasheet just by themselves. Not the same league! Example: the RFC 1149 standard. If the author(s) of such joke would like to publish such an article/standard/whatever by themselves, it would be rejected. But on behalf of a company... Sadly, since I'm an entrepreneur, "just try to do it other way" won't work and the wiki page would have been The Original. (also publising in a biology journal is out of question, it's a tech joke, not bio) Oh, and "moving it to user-space" is called help? Great... At least I have a backup. I had a feeling that something like this would happen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thedeveloperguy (talk • contribs) 14:26, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

North America after U.S.

Put North America after U.S. Arek333 (talk) 17:05, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Why is Draft:Gacha Life rejected

title

  • Because it was repeatedly re-submitted without attempting to address the issues - all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). It still has no sources at all. KylieTastic (talk) 10:54, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Mr. Owen

Hello KylieTastic ! Thank you for your correction. I just add many sources to my article about Mr. Owen, if you have the time to see it. Thannk you Eliott

  • Hi Eliottoffen thanks for adding sources and re-submitting. To be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 11:01, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

KylieTastic, can you help me with my bad history article

With the help of others, including you, please help me expand the Bad History article, and eventually, it can become a Wikipedia Page

Answermeplease11 (talk) 23:29, 11 April 2021 (UTC) Answermeplease11

  • Answermeplease11 all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). For articles about musicians see WP:MUSICBIO. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 13:21, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Hey KylieTastic! Can I tell you why there are no references/resources. Because I made it all by myself. But still, here is where I found the information.

1. I found the videos on Youtube

2. I found out when they joined Youtube, (and their parent company, Framebreed Studio) on Wikitubia.

Answermeplease11 (talk) 13:28, 12 April 2021 (UTC) Answermeplease11

  • Answermeplease11 without significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources then they are unlikely to meet the standards required for a Wikipedia article, just having videos with millions of views is not enough. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 14:11, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

KylieTastic, can you help me with why Wikipedia editors always have bias towards white chess websites

Why my article rejected? HistorianOfChess (talk)

  • HistorianOfChess there is not bias - all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). KylieTastic (talk) 12:06, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

I do not see how you can say you Wikipedia editors and reviewers are not biased as a chess news website contains news it is not the news itself by definition. It conforms to the Universal set theory Russell's Paradox by containing all references to chess websites except itself and other sources do not tend to reference other chess news sources itself but the news content which could be a chess federation or chess events page. Your definition of significant coverage in multiple indepenent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS) is outdated for this day and age of microblogging and syndicated chess news. HistorianOfChess (talk) 15:39, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Furthermore the sources you refer to don't account for the fact that most sources in chess are of the following type:

  1. chess servers like Lichess, Chess.com, Chess24 with their own custom news page which does not promote or reference other "competitive" chess websites
  2. chess social media pages of chess celebrities
  3. chess forums of chess websites
  4. chess forums unaffiliated with chess websites
  5. chess social media platforms and chess social groups
  6. chess federations
  7. FIDE World Chess
  8. Chess tournament news pages
  9. Chess magazines
  10. Chess book Publishers
  11. Chess software companies

None of the above general reference the chess news pages themselves as the news takes the form of chess tournament results, chess tournament schedules, chess tournament reports, chess editorials, chess articles, chess puzzles, chess games analysis. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HistorianOfChess (talk • contribs) 16:24, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

  • HistorianOfChess firstly "Wikipedia editors and reviewers are not biased" as your "articles" were not rejected on personal whims but just by reviewing to the current guidelines. So yes you can say the guidelines are "biased" against subjects that are not "noted by the world" in general. This is the metric that Wikipedia has "decided" to use, and not all of us agree but that is how it is until someone/anyone puts forwards amendments that are then agreed by consensus. As a reviewer if I accepted Draft:Chess Club Live which is just one short line, backed only with one very non independent and non reliable source that points to the dead website http://www.chessclublive.com/ then I (or any other reviewer) would have there permissions revoked and the "article" would be deleted probably in minutes. If you wont a wiki that accepts anything try Everipedia, Fandom etc. I suggest if you think these websites in anyway notable that you go ask for help/advice at the project for chess Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Chess. KylieTastic (talk) 18:23, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

I'd like to thank you for treating my genuine concern with respect and for the replies so far being very reasoned and clear. It's the problem that Wikipedia has is this perceived bias towards so-called notable websites is what keeps Wikipedia from growing. I know the two websites which you've rejected articles for are decades old and used by millions of people, they just not the right people for you (Wikipedia). They are black people who have not perhaps got the online influence of others that your guidelines stipulate you have to look to. I get that. It is why I don't yet donate to Wikipedia because you don't handle content fairly. The website of Chess Club Live has been live for many years (check Internet Archive) and is undergoing major work which is why it has been offline for a few weeks. The fact you drew a negative impression from that for that black owned website (it being black owned is not relevant to your decision, just to the niche nature of the content and audience and notability. I do understand, I'm not implying any personal bias on your part) was a dead website is typical of the corporate bias of Wikipedia editors and reviewers as a whole. I can list you several chess websites you have current articles for that are ACTUALLY dead, not being worked on like the one I tried to write an article for. Maybe you should get an independent look at the way you and your team make decisions and the biased expectations you have on the websites I wrote articles for. HistorianOfChess (talk) 19:37, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

  • HistorianOfChess thank you for recognising that I try to respond to all in good faith. Whenever I see accusations of bias, racism, sexism, etc the way I see it is that Wikipedia documents subjects have been noted by the world and it not biased in its own action, but the world has been (especially historical, but unfortunately also currently) racist, sexist and biased to vast sections of the world. Wikipedia is not in general itself biased, but just a reflection of the world and history that has huge issues. I have worked on many submissions for black reconstruction era US legislators that are deemed notable due to the office they held, but the lack of coverage in the old newspapers or just frankly disgusting front page racism makes them difficult to source. I don't know if your subjects are or are not notable enough for Wikipedia, all I will say is they need to have sources to indicate such or will be declined/deleted. With 5500+ outstanding submissions we don't unfortunately have time to research ourselves and so just have to review based on the sources provided. I will say again that it's worth a post on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Chess to see if any other chess enthusiast can help. All the best KylieTastic (talk) 20:06, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
  • KylieTastic Thank you for your frankness in all your responses and also in the good faith it came with. I find myself wondering why Wikipedia is not aiming higher than reflecting the distortions, injustices, prejudice, ignorance, discrimination that exists in society. I thought your mission was to "benefit readers by acting as a free widely accessible encyclopedia; a comprehensive written compendium that contains information on all branches of knowledge", how do you get there when you have a subjective measure like notability which you have to search to see if the "right people", think this or that is information is worth knowing and including in your "comprehensive written compendium". You do know the two things are incongruous. For instance, in the comprehensive capture of facts, there may be a large number of facts and things that are not meeting your subjective notable measure that is critical to your understanding of the history, workings, or process of something in your compendium. How do you trust a source that will not recognize each of these components? You can't trust a Wikipedia that will not trust its own data elements and references. I'm afraid you can't exclude something as irrelevant but allow it to be included in the narrative of other relevant (notable) things. I'll be frank with you, Wikipedia is a joke to many people and is seen as nothing but a vanity project by a certain type of online technician who sees the world in a certain way but wants the credit that comes from making it user-driven without actually letting it truly be user-driven. These online technicians are disingenuous but seem largely unaware of it as they set about cherry-picking facts from a distorted reality that they perceive and perpetuate. Wikipedia is driven by a priesthood of biased acolytes who have an echo chamber that insulates them from the truth that they are maintaining a self-perpetuating lie. The websites I tried to write articles for are not just websites, but living breathing communities, that cater to millions of chess fans and will continue to do so without the validation of biased Wikipedia editors and reviewers. Just as you made Encylopedia Britannica obsolete so you will become obsolete when people realize what you write is a narrative that is not based on hierarchies of competency and fact but hierarchies of power, corruption of truth, and lies. I think you might be one of the good ones who is trying to change from within but I don't think you can turn this ship around before it runs aground. It is why I will not ever be donating to Wikipedia or supporting your organization in any way until you become truly transparent about your decision-making processes, definition, mission, and purpose. There is a multiverse of Wikipedia Universes that are better than the one you have created and the chasm between the truth and fact and where you are now until you realize that erring on the caution of excluding things that meet your definition of inconsequential means you err constantly on excluding facts and truth and things consequential to capturing the comprehensive truth and context of domains of human knowledge and history. The classic type 1 and type 2 errors. Wikipedia would be worth a donation to support it if it knew the irony of its own wicked existence as an irreverent irrelevance of the entitled who are desperate to write a narrative that validates their own shortcomings. HistorianOfChess (talk) 04:08, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
  • HistorianOfChess while I agree that the current policies are far from perfect, all life is unfortunately a compromise. There are subjects I hate that get they excluded and many I think are undeserving (such as people famous for just being famous). However when I worked out how Wikipedia worked I was first shocked, but then impressed at what it had achieved from a consensus of so many with no actual "management". There are special guidelines for some some types of subject for notability and I think there should be more. However you misunderstand some things - there are no "right people" to impress - the requirements are for just independent sources to have noticed. So for subjects such as chess, there is no requirement for the general press/news/etc to have noticed but just enough independent sources in the area. Yes I know many like to call Wikipedia a joke, but in truth it is still one of the most used sources even by many who attack it, also independent fact checking studies have found it imperfect but on many key subjects as good or better than other academic books etc that don't update. All the other user generated content sites that are more open are IMHO wildly less reliable: IMDB has become a joke as people easily create the most ridiculous false profiles even with no link to movies; and Everipedia was supposed to be the open Wikipedia but from it's front page appears to have been taken over by blockchain promoters; There is another Wiki I forget the name of that all the YouTubers, Influencers and models publish there puff profiles we reject - but does the world really care that we have a few million people who think they are superstars but have done nothing much to back their egos? As for "Wikipedia is driven by a priesthood" your going down path most call the cabals but in truth although the admins have more power than they are given (by fact that many are less inclined to disagree with them) it is consensus that makes the most difference in most decisions including small editors, new editors, IP/anon editors. If Wikipedia fails to improve and another site takes over then I welcome that, but I see that no time soon as so far all the attempts have been either way more biased/controlled, or so filled with spam, promotion and lies that they don't interest most people. In the end you can decide to help improve Wikipedia or not; you could join WikiProject Chess and discuss the issues and maybe improve things. However, if you believe as you state above then surely you have no interest in Wikipedia so go to the sites you think are better. For instance, I'm not on any social media because I see them as 90% junk, spam, hate, promotion etc that in total does more harm than good for mankind and I feel Wikipedia although much flawed does more good than bad. A good "trustworthy" encyclopedia must have guidelines/controls, Wikipedia is very far from prefect but I still view it as by far the best we currently have, and although so annoyingly difficult and slow to change, it does change and improve. In the end with all such sites choose which you feel are worth using, those which are worth contributing too, those that are worth trying to improve and then for all others just ignore. Whatever you decide to spend your time on, do that which brings you the most happiness/satisfaction - I hope you find what that is for you, and don't forget to enjoy a game of chess. All the best KylieTastic (talk) 21:59, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
  • KylieTastic I agree with all of what you said apart from the fact I think you are part of the machine yourself and your definitions of what constitutes independent sources are what I refer to as the "right people" and therefore no matter how much you say it's not about getting validation from those "right people" and restate that it's the independent sources it just echoes my point further. The point is that Wikipedia is an echo chamber for a hierarchy of power and not competence. It has been corrupted as all hierarchies of power and not competence are. The verification of fact by volume of the independent sources is the worst verification strategy of a knowledge-based site you could ever have. It means if enough people repeat a lie the lie holds, isn't that just plain wrong. Think about what I've said deeply before you respond if you do, as this is not verbal tennis, I'm making points that can't be diminished by sophistry or managed away with platitudes or excuses about this is how Wikipedia works. Many corrupt institutions say they are victims of their own success and twisted principles but it doesn't make it okay. Wikipedia is not just a joke but the biggest echo chamber in the world and unlike all other echo chambers, it has another echo chamber inside the first echo chamber which keeps a narrative about how it keeps a narrative about everything else including itself. It's a self-fulfilling prophetic paradox of a website. Here's a glimpse of the future, people leave the site in droves when they realize it is a popularity contest for facts governed by the Wikipedia group that does serve anyone but itself. They look to decentralized personal wikis blocks which together form a chain of blocks called the wiki blockchain. Each block sustains the others and is validated by trust in the chain of knowledge. HistorianOfChess (talk) 06:38, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Lee Harris (Guitar Player)

Hello KylieTastic ! Thank you for your correction. Sorry but my English its no good; I dont know why my article its no good; I put the reference and Lee Harris is a friend of mine; could you help me to publish it? Thanks Regards --Alex Stratocaster (talk) 11:52, 18 April 2021 (UTC)AlexStratocaster

  • Hi Alex Stratocaster all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS) - For what we are checking for with musicians see WP:MUSICBIO. You only have one source and as an interview is is not independent. Look at the criteria on WP:MUSICBIO and if you think they meet them add sources to show this. Also as you say the subject is your friend see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 11:59, 18 April 2021 (UTC)


Hello KylieTastic ! Thanks again; of course i could find more soucerces,interviews about Lee Harris if this is the problem; he plays with Nick Mason band, Pink Floyd s drummer, so the are more interviews to him. --Alex Stratocaster (talk) 12:14, 18 April 2021 (UTC)AlexStratocaster

  • Hi Alex Stratocaster interviews are not independent - you need sources where other people have written about him - not what he says about himself. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 12:21, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

About the band opinions is good too? Thanks Regards --Alex Stratocaster (talk) 12:31, 18 April 2021 (UTC)AlexStratocaster

  • Hi Alex Stratocaster sorry I'm not sure what you are asking? For an article about "Lee Harris" you need sources about him, not about the band (unless it is about his part in the band) to show he is notable. There are a lot of notable bands with articles where some or all of the members are not notable enough on there own to qualify for an article. It's difficult to tell if such sources exist as when you google his name most of the results are about the band and just mention his name. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 13:21, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

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16:47, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Approval of draft as article for- talk:Nankhari

Approve the draft Nankhari for an article. There are links and sources for it. Plz approve it soon,as it is taking too much time for it's review to take place. So see and approve it for main article space from draft as soon as possible. Thanks. Aj Ajay Mehta 007 (talk) 15:19, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Submission of new article

Hi, hope all is well. You recently denied my article, but I think that it should have not been. When I submitted it the second time, the person agreed that since E series PGA 2K21 is directly affiliated with the PGA, winning a professional esports event in that way makes you notable per Wikipedia’s notability ruling. He said that all I needed to to was fix my citations, and that It would be good to go because PGA is a reputable source. Would love to submit it again for review. BrownDan101 (talk) 21:32, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi BrownDan101 all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). In this case Wikipedia:Notability (people) is what we would use. Your first source is not about the subject, the second is just an image showing someone with the name "Shawesome521" won a round, a first round (not a tournament). So no sources about "Aidan Shaw" and nothing in-depth. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 21:50, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Why are you not accepting my darft "Deepak Rawat IAS" to create an article space

Reason why? Let me tell you I have added a ton of reference and sources for the page Aj Ajay Mehta 007 (talk) 17:43, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Aj Ajay Mehta 007 now you have added sources you need to submit again for review the "Resubmit" on the decline notice. KylieTastic (talk) 17:49, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

I had submitted it. But it has been put under deletion process. After adding it in deletion process, I added a lot of another reliable and notable references. I have added references where the news (under those new added references) turn around the topic of article that is Deepak Rawat. Even after added those references where notability can be find easily under those new references as the whole news is written about that article i.e.Deepak Rawat. But still now they (some other editors with so called privileges) are not removing the article from deletion process. Thanks. Regards. User:Aj Ajay Mehta 007 User talk:Aj Ajay Mehta 007 Aj Ajay Mehta 007 (talk) 07:45, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Aj Ajay Mehta 007 once a deletion discussion has been started no one with any "privileges" can just stop the process. The role of administrators etc is to help run the processes but does not give them any greater say in deletion discussions. Any and all editors can give there opinion and all you can do is voice your opinion and wait to see what others think. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 08:48, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Dear Sir, KylieTastic All others editors just want to put line of notability, they don't want to answer my questions (as seems like they are not able to answer), they just want to put it under deletion, article needs just cleaning (as there are many references, some may not be so much strong references, that doesn't make the sense to delete the entire article, the poor reference should be deleted,not article), not deletion. Sir, Can you just do cleaning in article like removing,-- not so important references or links and some others things, on page Deepak Rawat. If you have time, then you could read (would you,plz), deletion discussion and if you think,if you think, article should remain in the main space of wikipedia, so plz vote for keep sir. If you think, it should be deleted than,plz don't comment delete vote.😢😅😅😊😇😇 Thanks. Regards. Aj Ajay Mehta 007 (talk) 17:02, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Aj Ajay Mehta 007 I have little time for Wikipedia at the moment and generally avoid Biographies of living persons. The discussion has been listed to get the interest of people who are interested in politicians and India related topics ([[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Politicians and [[14]] as well as other places so I'm sure others will look and review the article and what you and others have said. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 10:24, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

New Page

Hello Kylie, I’m Kat! Thank you for reviewing my draft Draft:Gabriella Stern. She is de facto spokesperson of the World Health Organization, equivalent to Stéphane Dujarric of the United Nations or Jen Psaki of the White House. There aren’t a lot of sources about her but she is notable. Please can you review again? CutePeach (talk) 16:03, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi CutePeach all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Note that Wikipedia 'notability' is not the same as many people would think, i.e. in this case holding a notbale job. For Wikipedia independent sources are required to pass in this case Wikipedia:Notability (people). Note that the first and third sources are clearly not only not independent but duplications of the same text. The second source is PR so also not independent. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 16:11, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

"Neostasis" Article Draft

Hello, "Neostasis" article draft was declined since it has no reference links to a reliable sources. Article's subject (neostasis concept) is something unprecedent, so I was hoping that Wikipedia itself would be the source reliable enough for it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.144.122.104 (talk) 13:04, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi 5.144.122.104 Wikipedia is not a place to publish new ideas - all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Regards KylieTastic (talk) 13:07, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Simon Rieber

How are you? please i need your help my article is going to delete please help me. God will bless you more. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paraiso Pal (talk • contribs)

  • Paraiso Pal all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). So unless you can provide more sources to show why they are notable then yes it will be deleted. KylieTastic (talk) 14:14, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

2021 census - why reverted?? and no need for unofficial projection there

why reverted?? Narendra Modi led BJP government rejected the demand for OBC data - references provided + there was a pie chart for fictional data of 2021 census so it has to removed as census has yet not started. do u think this pie chart of unofficial projection should have been there??? census 2021 has not yet started in India Yogsenabhandari (talk) 20:05, 27 April 2021 (UTC)


  • Hi Yogsenabhandari sorry but when a new editor removes content without any explanation ([[Help:Edit summary}]) it looks like vandalism. Also terms like "It is believed" do not sound encyclopedic and sounded like someone's opinion, and the source does not say that COVID "will have huge impact on the 2021 census data" which is an emotional statement, it just says it is deferred. If you remove or radically change content please use edit summaries so others can tell proper corrections from the endless mindless vandals we get, and I don't believe yoou are or was your intention. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 20:17, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

References for Draft:Regius Professor of Astronomy (Edinburgh)

Hello! Thanking for taking the time to review the draft page for the Regius Professor of Astronomy Edinburgh You have declined, noting "needs better sources" but I am genuinely puzzled, so I would be grateful if you could be more specific or make some suggestions. There are four authoritative published references, as well as extensive internal wikipedia links to specific Regius Professors, each with their own external authoritative sources. The external references cited seem to be more clearly authoritative than for example the page for the Glasgow Regius Professor of Astronomy or the page for Regius Professor of Engineering (Edinburgh). Can you let me know what you think is missing? Possibly it's that the books cited don't cover the last three most recent holders? In which case perhaps its just a case of copying across some of the further external sources used in those other wikipedia pages. Anyway, it looks like this should be simple to fix, so I would be grateful for your help. Hairykipper (talk) 10:23, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Hairykipper I said it needed better "sourcing" rather than sources. As I do not have access to any of those books so difficult to verify so a trust judgement is made and I have no reason to not accept the sources. However it's more that several sections indicate no source such as the lead section, the next section, most of the "The new observatory" section, the "Modern developments" section and the frankly confusing "New Structure" section. Also although the "List of holders of the chair" consists of a list that indirectly is referenced on each article but if a source for the list exists that would be helpful for the reader. Also the first link I get an invalid SSL certificate warning and then "403 forbidden", the second source says "We're sorry; the page you requested could not be found.". So I'm assuming the books exist and contain the source material but as currently stands difficult for anyone to verify. If books are used for such sourcing page numbers, at least indicative of sections, are normally expected as unless you have a digital version you would have to read the complete work to locate. See Help:Referencing for beginners and Help:References and page numbers. So just needs some work on the actual referencing and although not required if there are any extra online sources that would add to the article. Hope that makes some sense. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 20:47, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

OK that makes some sense and I certainly need to check those links. I can fix all that soon I think. Hairykipper (talk) 15:13, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

References for Draft:Lee Harris (Guitar player)

Hi Im Alex Stratocaster (talk) 08:13, 28 April 2021 (UTC)AlexStratocaster my draft Draft:Lee Harris (Guitar Player) have the new correct references now, please tell if its correct and thank you.

  • Hi Alex Stratocaster glad to here you've added references. Note that although it is not generally demanded sources are usually mostly referenced inline and for Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons it is mandatory for "All quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged". An article is more likely to be accepted if inline citations are used - see Wikipedia:Inline citation. You already have the <ref>...</ref>s defined so copying them to the end of the sentences/paragraphs they refer to should be hopefully easy (note you can use the same ref in multiple places. Aside from that to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. Also the backlog/wait is horrible but there are just not enough volunteers, with some major reviewers away dealing with Covid and others like myself just not having as much time for Wikipedia due to real-life issues. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 17:55, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

A pie for you!

Thanks for catching my error. Auric talk 19:03, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Third rail

Third rail#Russian Federation and former Soviet Union needs work. Peter Horn User talk 01:30, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Why does the XIBLE article not show significant coverage for publishing?

Hi there, thank you for your incredibly swift review. I'm sorry to hear it apparently does not meet the standards, but I am failing to understand why.

I am merely trying to add XIBLE to a fairly comprehensive list of Visual programming languages. While posting this article, I actually went through some of those programming languages there which, at least some of them, seem to have a similar setup. Take Node-RED for example. I do not quite understand what the problem here is with Draft:XIBLE, especially when I compare this draft with other Visual programming language articles.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Steve25070 (talk • contribs)

  • Hi Steve25070 all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Draft:XIBLE sources it's own GitHub and two medium blogs written by yourself. As for Visual programming language the "other stuff exists" is rarely a good argument and if anything only gets other articles deleted. If you don't think an article meet the guidelines please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion to put them up for deletion. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 08:36, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

hello

What sites do reputable sources include? Alitahaorg (talk) 13:41, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Alitahaorg see Wikipedia:Reliable sources for the full answer. What are not independent reliable sources are just links to the subjects own content i.e. the apple.com podcast links, spotify and amazon links. IMDB, goodreads and social media are not reliable sources (see WP:RSPSOURCES. At the moment it just looks like promotion. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 13:50, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Help on references

Hello; I want to thank you for editing my article. Can you please check it and inform me if you can accept it to become published. Thanks. Atena ak2 (talk) 17:25, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Atena ak2 sorry but to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. Also I tend to avoid Biographies of living persons. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 10:07, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Why not review

KylieTastic, you have changed Draft:Gulzaar Chhaniwala so why not review it? Because you are an NPR. 106.205.204.121 (talk) 16:40, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

EDIT

Sorry for the problems i´ve caused.

I know both chairmen of those clubs and i´m a close friend og theirs, this was only to screenshot and then re-edit.

So i have another question, how do i creat a page of my own?


KylieTastic

I hope you see i do edit in the right places, like in one of the teams i´m in.

I hope this can be water under the bridge and one more time i apologize. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FaroeseEditer (talk • contribs)

By the way...

I am getting close to reach 1 year of Wikipedia! Do you want to participate with me to publish articles and drafts as a gift? I am looking forward for your reply

Sincerely, Doctorine Dark

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Template talk : Rhymney Railway

Thank you for correcting my attempt to enter stations of the Topography of that railway onto Template : Rhymney Railway, so I have entered some details onto Template talk : Rhymney Railway and I hope that you can use your skills to enter these onto their correct position.

Xenophon Philosopher (talk) 17:53, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Hey Xenophon Philosopher no worries, those templates are a nightmare - I'll try to have a look but no promises. I'm sure there are others who find the markup clear, but I'm not one. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 19:54, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

About the draft "Bread and Books"

Hi Kylie Tastic, sorry for my delayed response. Most of the weekend I was offline.

To the "Bread and Books" draft Draft:Bread_and_Books.
1. Please take in account, that at de.wikipedia an article to this subject already exists: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brot_und_Bücher
2. Since the common language in India, Tanzania and Ghana, which are the main countries in receiving the named charity support, is ENGLISH, the intention for "Bread and Books" is to give handy information about the charity association.

If the de.wikipedia article is not enough "source", please help me a bit, cause I'm a newbie in this business. --Stroth wiki (talk) 17:29, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Stroth wiki each language Wikipedia has its own rules/guidelines and English Wikipedia probably has the strictest. As you created de:Brot_und_Bücher you are trying to use your own work to source your own work. Personally I believe that active charities should get some leeway, but currently that is not the guidelines and charities are judged as any organisation. So it still needs more significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources to show notability. Have a look about and see if you can find any and re-submit. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 20:00, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Draft Yasmin sayyid

//why was my article reverted — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peacemukami (talk • contribs)

Concordance Analysis (software source code)

Hi. I published this after updating the original draft entry several times. Is there some period of time an article must remain in draft? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sadler@d50.org (talk • contribs)

Ball Relay

How can I get Ball Relay accepted on to Wikipedia Gardner Eli (talk) 19:00, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Gardner Eli all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). See what other sources you can find, update and re-submit. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 19:02, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Just look up Ball Relay race on google Gardner Eli (talk) 19:03, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Gardner Eli if it's as easy as that then you should be able to add sources easy. "Just google it" is not a valid source for an encyclopedic article. KylieTastic (talk) 19:05, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Ok I added the sources Gardner Eli (talk) 19:08, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Update on Page You Reviewed

You recently reviewed an approved a page I wrote on Emily Saunders Plummer, an American slave. I wanted to tell you that I have finished putting together her biography, as that appears to be one of the reasons my article received a C-Class Status. I was wondering if you could review these changes I've made and, if appropriate, upgrade my page to a higher class. Thank you User_talk:Nobodyone6204

  • Hey Nobodyone6204 I think you may not understand Wikipedia classifications (although there are actually several sub-variants on a per project basis). Class C is considered very good and exceptional for a first time submission. I think I have only ever reviewed 1 or 2 B-class. B-Class is as high as we can go as after that you have to submit through formal procedures to get GA (Good Article) and or FA (featured article). Many very experienced editors and even admins still mostly write stub or start class. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Assessment for the definition for reviewed AfC submissions. From the latest version as I write this the automated machine learning tool we can use also still ranks it as a solid C here. The article still does not link to many other articles, it has no images, relies very much on a single source, and needs better categories - these are all things that can be hopefully improved. See Wikipedia:Content_assessment#Statistics to show how good a C is in relation to the other 7 million articles. I hope that explains things and you feel proud of what you have achieved, but there is scope to improve and maybe get GA or FA rated. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 18:56, 8 May 2021 (UTC)


Thanks for the information. I think you're right about me misunderstanding the Class system. To be honest with you, I got the impression C-class was very good when I read the notification about my article being accepted, but the grading scale must have caused me to interpret that it wasn't. I'm currently in the process of providing a photo of Emily once I can get the copyright issues resolved with the image owner, and I'd also like to create an infobox for her (I hope that's the right term :) ). The category issue is also something I'd like to tackle. Thanks again for approving my article. I think it's going to help me out greatly with what I plan to do with it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nobodyone6204 (talk • contribs) 22:28, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Paddle Ball

I added Red Links for Paddle Ball Relay because most of the people do it Gardner Eli (talk) 22:56, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Request on 07:02:08, 10 May 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by 2A02:8388:7041:2480:FCDC:1EAE:F581:48C9


Hi, you reviewed my article about Patricia Ann Hunt and declinded publishing. Could you give me some hints what is further needed to geht published, as I included some references already? Thanks :-)

2A02:8388:7041:2480:FCDC:1EAE:F581:48C9 (talk) 07:02, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi 2A02:8388:7041:2480:FCDC:1EAE:F581:48C9 all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Your first source is not in-depth and just confirms they are president of the EAP. The second source is a YouTube video that is normally not a reliable source, but it is BBC local news so OK, but hosted on her own channel so not so good, but in the end it is good enough to verify the statement it is used for. That leaves no significant coverage in multiple sources to show notability, and most of the content is completely unsourced. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 08:28, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Confusion on Idi Amin

I noticed someone went and reverted my edit on Idi Amin because nicknames are never bolded. That doesn't quite make sense, because on Kalākaua, his nickname is "The Merrie Monarch", and it is fact bolded. I'm not sure if there are specific exceptions are made for certain people or what, but it left me scratching my head. Some clarity would be much appreciated; thanks! LittleMissDexterous (talk) | Sent from Mail for Windows 10 | 00:24, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi LittleMissDexterous if you don;t agree it's best to ask them on there talk page or on the article talk page. However from MOS:NICKNAME or more directly MOS:NICKCRUFT it says "Common nicknames, aliases, and variants are usually given in boldface in the lead, especially if they redirect to the article". So I belive you are correct on this one, so you could just revert stating the policy link in the edit summary. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 08:51, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Request on 06:18:34, 12 May 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Ginnne4you


Dear Sir as per Wikipedia notability, I refer to a newspaper article that clarifies the existence of a person and also gives details, Mr. Praadeep Bansal works and his social work. Can you give me the exact mistake that I did, as I try to write my own words about him and i have no personal attachment, his works socially appreciatable that why I write the article about him and also give ref as needed. So please clarify that thing where I am wrong . Thanks

Ginnne4you (talk) 06:18, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Any concerns...

...with me deleting Draft:Raghav Chauhan as G11?-- Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 22:08, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Hey Ponyo sorry I had an early night last night so didn't notice this. I sure it was the correct call. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 09:06, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
No worries. It looks like another admin noticed it and speedied it. Some of these blatant self-promotional drafts contain a significant amount or personal information that really is better deleted if the article subject has zero chance of having an article in mainspace. I tend to delete these as G11 with a note regarding WP:NPF so that an admin will take a closer look at the content if there is a request to restore the draft. Thanks for everything you do here; you really are a star.-- Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 15:41, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

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13:48, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Draft Pamela Golbin

Hello You can valide this page ? I am french, this page is ok in french wiki : https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pamela_Golbin

Have a good day Jean-Christophe--Jeanchristopheflorence (talk) 08:33, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Bonjour Jeanchristopheflorence, each language Wikipedia has its own policies and guidelines, so just because it exists on the French Wikipedia does not mean it will meet the English Wikipedia notability guidelines. To be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random. Also I have little interest in WP:BLPs. I will note that it does not appear to be written from a Wikipedia:Neutral point of view with the short lead containing "prominent", "extensive", "leading", "landmark" & "successful" - see MOS:PUFFERY. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 14:12, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Request on 15:36:38, 22 May 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by 212.103.243.120


I cannot understand why you reviewers keep rejecting this draft. The books listed thereon exist, as do the articles. This is 100% verifiable from the web-sources used. There is no fraud, and no opinion is expressed in the draft - so it is not promotional material. The draft is entirely factual, and still you do not take it.

Please now admit this draft to Wikipedia Main Space, or at the very least explain in detailed terms in comprehensible English language what you consider needs to be done.

212.103.243.120 (talk) 15:36, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

  • 212.103.243.120 the decline notice does explain - the key is "about the subject" not "by the subject". All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Being someone who has written things is not on its own notable. KylieTastic (talk) 15:42, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

It is insulting to suggest that a subject who has written nine monographs is "someone who has written things". Researching, writing and publishing nine sole-authored books on technical subjects is in itself notable. You try doing it! Furthermore, anything can be reduced like this. For instance, one could say that Charles Darwin was the ponderous son of a preacher that saw a few plants on the Galapagos islands and wrote a book on it. If he was alive today and submitted for Wikipedia and you or some of your Colleagues reviewed his entry there, it would be declined. Therefore, please 'get real' and either place this draft on the Main Page, or suggest a credible, valid reason why you are refusing to do so. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.103.243.120 (talk) 17:40, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Wrong - because lots has been written about Darwin because he was "noted" and written about. Also since your only edits have been about "Graeme Baber", and noting your wording above, I would guess you are either the subject or have close links to them so see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. KylieTastic (talk) 17:48, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Regarding your Feedback on Draft:KAP Hub

Hello Kylie, Greetings. I noticed your feedback about the reference on Draft:KAP Hub being invalid. I would like to bring to your awareness that those references are valid. The Wikipedia guideline states that users/editors are encouraged to paraphrase which ever information acquired, which I clearly did unbiasedly. I would however appreciate you review your previous feedback. I understand that you're doing your best to support Wikipedia, and this is highly appreciated. Thank you, and do have a great day.

- Somtonna.

  • Hi Somtonna I didn't actually give any feedback/comment on Draft:KAP Hub so I don't know what you mean? I just removed inline external links per Wikipedia:External links - if the urls had been about the subject I would have made them references, but they appears to just to about other people and organisations. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 15:38, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

Sincere apologies for the mix up. Thanks and do have a great day! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Somtonna (talk • contribs) 15:45, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

My draft

You pointed out on my draft that date of death is different. I fixed that as I was using a source for a different person when I wrote that. I fixed it now so was that the only problem? Gandalf the Groovy (talk) 18:11, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Gandalf the Groovy you had fixed one with this but there was two others that I ended up fixing with this. I didn't actually spot any other issues but with the sources not online to verify we have to rely on good faith for offline, so if you would just check it over for any other mistakes and re-submit that would be appreciated. I've already added some sources to the lead to help. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 18:53, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

A cheeseburger for you!

Thanks for allowing my page to be created! Here's a cheeseburger treat to you! Username006 (talk) 11:15, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Draft: Stones River Country Club (SRCC)

Hey Kylie! I got a note that a submission was declined for a lack of significant coverage resources. I researched the issue pretty well and feel like I put a fair array of sources on there; however, I am going to research and find more, as the location was pivotal in a Civil War battle, which is fairly significant here in Tennessee (the battlefield happens to be the largest revenue generator for the county-- I'll make sure to add that too).

I hope to have it updated. In the meantime, any other advice would be appreciated. I do believe that this club is significant in this county and worthy of a page, so I will work to substantiate that. Great work on all the judge pages! I'm a lawyer and I love seeing legal history preserved.

All the Best. -Scott- — Preceding unsigned comment added by ScottKimberly (talk • contribs) 14:41, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Kurt Brooks Uhlir (Need Help)

Hello KylieTastic, I hope you are doing good. with due respect, you just declined my article. Will you please guide me how to find the reliable secondary sources? I found some secondary sources HERE and Here TOO, but struggling to choose the best for the Wikipedia article. Will you please take a look (if you have time) and let me know if Kurt Brooks Uhlir is illegible for Wikipedia page or not? looking forward to here about this. Many Thanks Zerra66 (talk) 12:55, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Zerra66 all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). None of your sources are independent reliable sources with significant coverage. Also to see which sources are likely to be considered invalid or untrustworthy you can see WP:RSPSOURCES. Unfortunately with some subjects google news searches find a lot of non-helpful results as just checking a few they are just passing mentions. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 13:02, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
    • Many thanks information. I really appreciate it. Zerra66 (talk) 15:37, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Draft:N. J. Chappell

Greetings. I started a draft on this subject but couldn't find much coverage. I let it get deleted as a G13 but it was restored and I've been asked to work on it. I can't confirm that he was a state senator although I think one of the sources asserts that. Most of the coverage I came across were vitriolic attacks against him for his stance on "miscegnation" at Mississipi's 1868 Constitutional Convention. I tried various initials and name combos but just couldn't come up with enough. Are you able to find anything? I do think he's probably notable given the reaction he caused and I wonder what happened to him.. Thanks. FloridaArmy (talk) 20:57, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Hey FloridaArmy sure I'll have a poke about and see if I can find anything - just not tonight as been pushing the backlog all day and too tired to delve (also I've temporarily lost access to one resource). I also plan to get around to a couple more of your reconstruction era submits, but spent way too much time today with promotional junk. Laters KylieTastic (talk) 21:13, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
I appreciate it. Definitely at your leisure. I hate adding to chores of others and I know you are very busy and do a lot of work reviewing and improving drafts. Thanks again, I appreciate the help on this one I'm stuck on and can't find a way forward for. It will be interesting to see if anyone else can come up with something. Maybe the name is wrong. Or he just dusappeared. Who knows.. Thanks. Take care. Happy summer. FloridaArmy (talk)￦
  • Hey FloridaArmy I've spent quite a while searching mostly out of frustration and found nothing conclusive. It is not helped by there being a clerk Chappell in the papers a lot around 1868 (different initials). As this says he was "State Senator elect" I expected to find the normal votes etc, but found nothing. The is a mention of a Mr Chappell and Judge Chappell at the convention could be the same person but un-clear. this suggests that a Judge Chappel from the convention ran away from the country - if it is was the same person maybe they were senator elect, then run away before taking office? Unfortunately newspapers.com only has 9 pages for the Macon, Beacon in 1868 that is reported as origin for the story. There are also mentions of carpetbagging including a Chappell so maybe that was the issue - see this. Also issue that Noxubee had 300 more votes than registered voters! I also had a quick look via JStor and found nothing. I'm still waiting for my newspaperarchive.com access to be renewed and I'll have a quick check when it is, but this looking like one lost to history or at least hiden deep in book and records. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 16:04, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Raiden Adelman article

hello! i understand why you declined my article. my question is: is there a way to cite independent research? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omoutuazn (talk • contribs) 21:54, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

why decline information on FCC South Asia

I am the President of the Foreign Correspondents' Club of South Asia. I listed a verifiable website of our 63 year old organization. Information I submitted for publishing on Wikipedia is simple, short, factual and easily verifiable. Why did you decline. You could at least check our website. We are a large media association of very reputed media persons belonging to the biggest media organizations of the world.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.91.225.178 (talk • contribs)

  • Hi 111.91.225.178, all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). It is not a place for subjects to write about themselves, that is what your own website and social media is for. Also see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 14:38, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

nice work!

KevinLasing (talk) 16:59, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

declined sandbox test page

Hi, I summited a request for a personal page. Here you linked a page which explains what the sandbox is. I went to the page, but it says "User pages are mainly for interpersonal discussion, notices, testing and drafts." My page was a test, which, according to the linked page, that is permitted. What was the real reason it was declined? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aron Good (talk • contribs)

  • Hey Aron Good, yes your sandbox is for multiple things.... at first many use for testing/learning editing, but some then use it for creating new articles and submitting for approval (or you can just create as a draft). I still only use mine for pure test edits. The submit option is just for the AfC approval process for new editors to create new articles in the main public article space, you don't need too and should not submit tests only articles. For statements as you put as who you are and why you are editing would normally just go on your main user page User:Aron Good as you will see most seasoned editors do, such as mine User:KylieTastic. Hope that explains things, Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 20:28, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
oh, thanks! Aron Good (talk) 22:22, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

The AFC Barnstar

The Articles for Creation Barnstar
For invaluable contributions to the community effort to keep the AfC backlog from a complete overspill! nearlyevil665 06:22, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

Lichens ≠ plants

Please note that lichens should not be assessed into Wikiproject Plants. I know it's tough to make these categorization and Wikiproject assignment calls; back when I did contributions at AfC I always used to feel like more is better. Keep up the good work. Abductive (reasoning) 13:21, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Hey Abductive when I'm not sure I usually check other articles and these types I usually check up the classification. However this time I think I put plants because it was on Talk:Lichen, which I thought was a bit odd at the time. I note Talk:Acarospora only has Fungi which is probably the one I should have followed. It is difficult with all the different sub-projects and difficult to tell when something is community agreed or individual opinion. I'll try to remember this one but don't often get fungi just endless non notable people and companies :/ Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 13:37, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Cool. I have removed Lichen from PLANTS, Wikiproject Algae is a subproject of PLANTS and that should be good enough. We'll see if anybody notices. Abductive (reasoning) 13:46, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

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Request on 11:48:39, 29 May 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by DCrossen


I'm new here and was wondering about the rejection of my draft.

Hi KylieTastic, thanks for reviewing my draft so quickly.

Due to being a novice, I probably didn't make my intentions clear. I want to add the two paragraphs to the Denis Law page and add the external link to the external links section, rather than create an entirely new article.

On notability, I thought that people reading about Denis Law might want to know about his charitable works and if they were interested they could follow the external link to the charity's web page.

What kind of references are necessary in this case?

Apologies if I'm not following the correct procedures. Should I just be going ahead and making the edit in the Denis Law page or not?

Thanks again,

Dave

DCrossen (talk) 11:48, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

@DCrossen (talk page watcher) YOur draft has not been rejected, which is final. Instead it has been pushed back to you for further work because it does not yet meet our standards. Please read WP:YFA and then this essay which is one of many on article creation. Your enthusiasm is great, but it has led your to skip the true first step which is to research the references you will build the article upon. These are your foundations. The essay shows a methodology which works. I know, because I use it, and that is how I created it.
It ought not take much further research for you to be able either to reference the draft and to assert and verify notability (another essay WP:SPEAKSELF is very useful here), or to decide that it cannot be referenced well enough and to set the task aside until it can be FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 12:28, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi DCrossen as Timtrent said its all about sources. To have a separate article on the Denis Law Legacy Trust it would need significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources to show notability - i.e not just the trusts own link. Alternatively to add a section to Denis Law then it needs sources for each major claim - this is very important for Biographies of living persons - this differentiates an Encyclopedia from a subjects own website or social media. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 13:22, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Pana Chand Meghwal

Hi - just a gentle heads up; you accepted the article above which contains a photo that the editor lifted from Facebook; there's no evidence whatsoever that the photo is a product of their own work as claimed. I've tagged the image on Commons for speedy delete. Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 13:18, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Hey Goldsztajn thanks! I should not have missed that, but that's what's good about this project we seem to get there in the end. Thanks again for the catch! Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 13:24, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Draft: Ballymoney Drama Festival

Respected Kylie Tastic, as you have earlier reviewed the draft, I again request you to rereview it if you can as early as possible. It is taking a lot of time and I understand the pressure on you. But as part of my task, I request you if you can review the draft: Ballymoney Drama Festival. Your help will be precious Fitzwilliams (talk) 17:29, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Fitzwilliams sorry but to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 10:52, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Its okay. Thanks for replying. Fitzwilliams (talk) 14:33, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Declined Draft:Tigran K. Harutyunayn

Hi, I was doing AfC reviews and noticed you had declined Draft:Tigran K. Harutyunayn. I understand the article's formatting might be a mess, but simply wanted to check in as I always believed holding a GM title was sufficient for notability for chess players, as per Wikipedia:WikiProject_Chess. Just wanted to make sure as you are a more experienced editor and had previously declined it. nearlyevil665 20:22, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Hey nearlyevil665 yes according to WP:NCHESS being awarded GM is 'notable' however recently I've noticed a lot more pushback on these project notably criteria that they do not completely override WP:GNG and with just one FIDE link and no other sources (when I reviewed) it seemed prone to kickback due to large number of unsourced claims. So there is no 'correct' answer but I could have accepted and tagged on general principle of notability, or trimmed the unsourced content and accepted as a tiny stub or as I chose give a first decline in hope that they add sources which they have partly done. I personally believe that we need to consider the readers foremost and if a subject is notable but currently in a terrible state I either improve and accept, pass, or try to encourage improvement. We have factions in WP that demand we accept anything remotely notable, and others than will slam us for accepting unsourced puff. We all have to pick our own line as there is in reality no firm consensus (other than AfC reviewers are wrong), and personally I'm a lot more judgemental on WP:BLPs both for WP:BLP reasons and because a lot of the time it feels more like ego boosting than encyclopedic and that not what I'm here for. So yes in its new state I would probably tidy, accept and tag for the issues. Hope that made sense :/ Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 20:47, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
    • Thanks for the detailed answer. I haven't been around for long but I've noticed editors seem to be on different sides of the fence on a lot of things here, especially when it comes to establishing notability. I've learned this (sometimes the hard way) at AfDs. I'm currently of the opinion that the insane backlog and shortage of AfC reviewers don't allow us the luxury of being overly picky and pedantic with every little detail during AfC review. Is the subject definitely notable per a high citation index but the majority of the page reads like an eye sore? Remove the eye soar and accept, even if it means accepting a stub. I've seen far too many pages on AfC getting declined and re-reviewed by five different editors (hence wasting time that could be used to review other pages) when the disputed content could be simply removed, the page accepted and the content re-added at a later point by the original author or someone else. I do understand your reservations as far as BLPs are considered, in my case I'm always hesitant to apply my lenient approach to anything connected to business or performing arts. P.S I'll gladly take a look at Harutyunayn tomorrow, and have it cleaned up for mainspace. nearlyevil665 21:02, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

RJ Aarti Malhotra Article

Hello I write an article on myself and that article is also published on a website https://tartp.com/an-inspiring-lady-rj-aarti-malhotra/ and this website is my own website. I am one of the founders of this website so all the content in my article it not containing any copyright. if you want then I delete the article from this website https://tartp.com/an-inspiring-lady-rj-aarti-malhotra/ so please approved my article I am very thankful to you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rjaartimalhotra (talk • contribs)

  • Hi Rjaartimalhotra Wikipedia is not a place for people to publish there own work - all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 10:19, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

Why it was not accepted.

I made all the changes that were required on the page but no one has reponded since. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.250.194.202 (talk • contribs)

  • This is your first edit so I can have no idea what you are talking about. KylieTastic (talk) 10:23, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Twelve poet drafts

I see that you have Declined three of the drafts submitted by Iwis97. At Iwis97's query at Teahouse, I advised: "A reviewer has Declined three of the eleven submitted drafts: 'This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article.' Given similarities in referencing, it is possible that all of the drafts will be Declined for the same reason. If that becomes true, I suggest you select one of your drafts to see if you can find and add references to address the criteria for why it was Declined. If successful, you can then work on the other drafts. Please do not waste Reviewers' time by trying to advance all twelve drafts at the same time." David notMD (talk) 11:29, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi David notMD sensible advice, I'm not sure why but recently more people have been doing these mass submission. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 11:56, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

New Change

hi kylie I edited Islamic Republic of Iran Bodybuilding and Fitness Federation article , I just translate Persian Wikipedia Islamic Republic of Iran Bodybuilding and Fitness Federation. Persian link : https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%81%D8%AF%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%B3%DB%8C%D9%88%D9%86_%D8%A8%D8%AF%D9%86%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%B2%DB%8C_%D9%88_%D9%BE%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%86%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%85_%D8%A7%DB%8C%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86

and my English version. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Islamic_Republic_of_Iran_Bodybuilding_and_Fitness_Federation

please check and approve page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sportre (talk • contribs) 12:41, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Sportre, sorry but to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. KylieTastic (talk) 18:06, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Request on 18:19:55, 3 June 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by 103.103.213.166


Hey Can U Please Creat A Page For News Portal "Khabar Satta" Official website https://khabarsatta.com 103.103.213.166 (talk) 18:19, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

  • No, Wikipedia is not for promotion. KylieTastic (talk) 18:30, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Declined Articles

Why You are declined my article?

You can check our official website, instagram accounts, facebook page........

why you can not get a approval of my articles? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theabhiak (talk • contribs) 15:20, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Theabhiak all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). A subject existing, having a website and social media does not make it notable. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 15:31, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

Please tell me in details the reason of declined article?

Please tell me in details the reason of declined article? and how many words article required for approval? hope you will answered by question...... Thank You

How to create Wikipedia account

Subir Biswas means I work on social media and are directly involved in politics. I am a devoted activist of Shri Narendra Modi, the Prime Minister of our country. I kindly request you not to delete this article now. You must tell me to retain this article. I will give you all my information and I will help you a lot. Thanks Wikipedia. Subir vai (talk) 23:18, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

Institute of Fire Protection Officers

Hi

You have declined my article for The Institute of Fire Prevention Officers. however, I visited https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institution_of_Fire_Engineers and made changes so the article resembled an already article for a similar UK Fire Safety Institute.

Why is the IFE acceptable yet IFPO isn't.

Thanks

Colin Walker

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Giancarlo Nasi article

Hi, I just recived the notification about my article not being accpeted. I tried to use other existing articles as reference and linked to international official press and official website verifiable as IMDb. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edoardo2022 (talk • contribs) 23:42, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Edoardo2022 all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Note IMDB is not a reliable source see WP:IMDB. Your first source does not even appear to mention the subject, and the other just has a short quote from them. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 08:37, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
You have done an amazing job at AfC, I even thought you were an admin when I first joined. Keep up the great work mate! Necctaylor (chat) 19:47, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Cheers Necctaylor that was much appreciated after the last few days in real-life. I've been asked to run a few times, but WP:RFA can be such a hostile event I have no desire for the moment while real life is full-on... Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 19:55, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia

please show my Wikipedia in Google Peer umar (talk) 05:31, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Peer umar Wikipedia is an Encyclopedia not social media, not everyone is notable enough for an article. All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 08:19, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

I Am Law

[What Are You Doing Saying Am Not Aloud To Sandbox My Life You Are Not I Am A Government Official Musician Artist Of Digiton States Over USA Over You And Your Sumissions Teams Lookers Partyis Gang Members You Wouldnt Say You Is GreenP Not Need To Be Holding Backlogs There Ain't You Must Review Need To Be Look At In Real Life Time Article Of A Sandbox This Was Nasty What You Pull Off Melting GreenD Program Get It Outta Here Now You Have No Rights To Wikipedia Yourself Because You Want Make Something To Uphold Not Need To Be Pending Backlogs In This Time Of Now Who Do You Think You Is Nasne Nasne Nasneeeeeeeee.......] I Government State Representative Official Of Secret Society Member Club ID No.060568532 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zuzi Zombe Zuke Doz (talk • contribs) 10:29, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Lee Harris

Hi! Sorry but do you know if my article Lee Harris (Guitar Player) its still on review? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alex Stratocaster (talk • contribs) 14:15, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Alex Stratocaster yes Draft:Lee Harris (Guitar Player) is still submitted, just suffering the ridiculously long backlog (though some are trying to arrange a backlog drive to reduce it). It has reduced recently from around 5500 to 4700, but still huge and around 200 new submission everyday. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 15:07, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Cancelling a draft submission

Hey, Kylie. Is there any possible way to cancel a draft submission? I was not ready to submit it the second after I clicked submit. RayJ (talk) 05:39, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi RayJstillhere, the easiest way is to use the "View History" tab and just use the 'undo' on the edit or the edit(s) you wish to undo. Or edit and remove the {{AfC submission|||ts=...|u=RayJstillhere|}} template that has the double pipe '|' after AfC submission with no letter between the pipes (no letter means in the submitted state). However I see no drafts still submitted, just FLASH (Perfume song) that was approved after you asked this and you can now edit that directly. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 08:27, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
Oh, thank you for the information! RayJ (talk) 05:52, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Hi RayJstillhere no problems - I have also edited to be what I meant to put! I was answering while on a conference call and failed to notice it was garbled. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 08:14, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Chroma Key album

Hi, why my article is declined? It's not different from this article, about the same artist: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_Is_a_Recording_(Kevin_Moore_album) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gerolamo76 (talk • contribs)

  • Hi Gerolamo76 as you can see from the top of This Is a Recording (Kevin Moore album) it has been tagged as also properly sourced and possibly not notable. It was created in 2006‎ before current guidelines and all new articles going through AfC/Draft and/or New pages patrol. As such it could be put up for deletion, however first the person putting it for deletion would have to check if sources exist to show notability. However for new articles it is up to the author(s) to add the sources to show the subject is notable - see WP:NALBUMS for the criteria. Hope that explains things. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 16:13, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

2023 NCAA Men's Division I Men's Basketball Tournament

Why did you redirect the article for because it's too soon. 21:31, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi 98.186.54.177 - because it was unsourced and did not show notability (yet). Also it did not really have any content so not a valid stand-alone encyclopedic article. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 21:39, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

Heiress

Hello,

Can you give me a detailed explanation on why the article was rejected?. If we were to compare the article to other pages of musicians, the biography and context which was used is acceptable and legitimate. Heiress has her bio on various music platforms such as Spotify, Youtube Music and other social media websites. Heiress is exceptionally talented which is why she has received appraisals from individuals well known in the Music Industry. Clive Davis, Quincy Jones, Steve Dorff, Tod Deeley from Sony Music Australia and Record Labels such as Tuff Gong Recordings who were mentioned in the article have written to Heiress and spoken to her on multiple occasions. She has written proof that these statements used in the Article are valid. For example would you publicly publish a written letter from Sony Music Australia on Social Media along with all the contact info in that letter so people could misuse? no. Another example, would you publish emails and personal phone calls of Quincy Jones and Clive Davis to Social Media? no. Now what would be an alternative to publishing these statements without placing the information of these individuals in risk? that would be quoting what they said on a website correct?. She has many references on social media such as The Dublin Castle in Camden which have complimented her calibre of talent. The article also had Jo Wood who is the ex wife of Ronnie Wood sitting next to her and taking photos at The Tramp in Mayfair which is an exclusive private venue. Yesterday Heiress even told me that Steve Abbott who is a well known Manager and A&R told her that "The only person who could give me goosebumps with that kind of powerful voice was Aretha Franklin and you" and she has this in text? now tell me how is she suppose to publish this?. I don't appreciate you deleting the article so swiftly when all the information i wrote took me 6 hours to write.

Again, please give me a detailed explanation and advice on how to publish this article as i truly believe she is acceptable to be on Wikipedia.

Regards,

Daniel. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31WhiteBull31 (talk • contribs) 09:46, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi 31WhiteBull31 firstly the article was not rejected, or deleted as you claim but declined as not (yet) showing notability. Secondly you have a clear undisclosed Conflict of interest - see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest and WP:DISCLOSE. As for the decline it does explain in the decline notice , however to put it another way all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). In this case see WP:MUSICBIO for the criteria we are looking for. The first four sources you have are her own website so not an independent reliable source. I've remove the other two non sources that were just random links about other artists not even linked to her but had performed in the same place. The final source just shows that she has one song listed on Spotify. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 10:28, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi

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20:25, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Draft:"Kia Ye Badan Mera Tha" Book

Kylie Tastic sir, why my article declined? I gave reference of one renowned newspaper. Sanahassan88 (talk) 17:59, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Sanahassan88 all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Wikipedia:Notability (books) has the criteria set out in WP:BOOKCRIT. You have only one source, and it does not say much other than the new edition is out. See if you can find any other sources, such as two or three in-depth reviews. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 18:11, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Kylie Tastic thanks for your input about == Draft:"Kia Ye Badan Mera Tha" Book ==, guide me how many references are required. furthermore sir, why my article Ankhain declined? I gave reference of two renowned newspaper. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sanahassan88 (talk • contribs) 18:20, 14 June 2021 (UTC) Sanahassan88 (talk) 18:40, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Sanahassan88 it's not about the number, but the quality. Two very in-depth reviews from very reliable sources could be enough, but usually people want 3 good sources. As for the other draft, you have asked the reviewer... give them a chance to reply. We are all volunteers, with real life work, responsibility and the need to sleep, and looking at there editing I would think they are now asleep as they rarely edit between 19:00 and 03:00 UTC. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 19:06, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Kylie Tastic thanks for your input about == Draft:"Kia Ye Badan Mera Tha" Book ==, Thanks for your input Sanahassan88 (talk) 03:45, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Project Schoolflight

Kylietastic- thanks for the shine and polish edits you did on my Project Schoolflight submission- I'm really getting the hang now of encyclopedia writing/read and you've helped- thank you! Does it mean now that my submission will move on to publish/approved stage now?- hoping! warmest cheers to you for a great day and week to you! keep smilin' :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by RDBACE1 (talk • contribs)

  • Hi RDBACE1 it was just a minor edit in passing, I try to do a pass of all new submissions to look for vandalism, abuse, copyright violations, easy declines/accepts and I also do any format tweaks etc to make them ready for any accept. However I do not have time to do that and read all the content and sources. Someone will do a full review in time - there is a huge backlog but we have got it down by ~1000 in the last month so things are looking slightly better. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 08:16, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Draft Kargo xpress

Hi, Greetings!

i have created draft Article for Kargo Xpress Airline. i worked for few days to prepare. after submission it shows blank. Can you please help to check.

Thank you, Vijay — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mynamevk (talk • contribs)

  • Hi Mynamevk I found the content in the history and restored, however it is unsourced. All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 08:44, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for recovery. the sources taken from my company. i work for Kargo Xpress(M Jets International Sdn Bhd). website: www.kargoxpress.com This is new company started operations on June2021. About this company published online by many news channels.

Is there anyway to help us to get Article Live.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mynamevk (talk • contribs) 08:55, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Mynamevk Wikipedia is an encyclopedia of 'notable' topics - it is not for companies to promote themselves. As you work for them see WP:COI and WP:DISCLOSE. As I said before: All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). In this case it would be judge for notability using Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) - which basically comes down to "significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources". Regards KylieTastic (talk) 09:15, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your time on review and comments. Its not really promoting. Article will help viewers to understand about company. Anyway will follow your suggestions. really appreciate it.

Draft Torpedo (factory)

Hi and thanks for your help in improving the draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Torpedo_(factory)

I notice you still think the sources are "unreliable", could you elaborate on that please ? These five first sources are the sources from the Croatian page. I will do more work on the page, but if it cant be approved, I wont be that interested in doing that. My alternative is of course to translate into Norwegian and get the page apporved there...

Wikarth (Oyvind)

  • Hi Wikarth I declined the first submit due to the sources then you improved. Yes I did a couple of passing edits afterwards but I did not review again - so no I have not stated that I "still think the sources are unreliable". Note that each language Wikipedia has there own polices and guidelines so just because it exists on another does not mean it meets English Wikipedia standards. If a Norwegian version exists it's not linked in Wikidata Q12643789 only the Croatian and Serbo-Croatian are. If the other versions have more sources then they would good to add, also the Serbo-Croatian has some images hosted on commons that can be used here. To be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, however in general I would think the subject looks notable, and it's certainly worth adding any other sources and wait for the next review. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 19:23, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Sure, there are much more material out there, both on Wiki and outside. The sources are the same as the first draft, I have just fixed the ref-links now. And I tried to connect to a few other existing Wikipages. There is no Norwegian version, yet. We'll see if someone accepts the draft now. Thanks, Wikarth (Oyvind) Wikarth (talk) 19:33, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Wikarth sorry I see you said translate into Norwegian not from - doh - it's been a long day. However I notice several of the sources are invalid - I get a 404 or timeout from the 2nd, 3rd and 6th references. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 19:42, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi Kyle, I'll check and bring them on track. Thanks a lot for your help and attention. 

Wikarth (talk) 21:35, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Draft Declined

Dear KylieTastic, I was able to improve errors on draft. You are more friendly than the rest of the editors who deleted my articles on Wikipedia. I need someone to help out on my wiikipedia page. Can you help me out? I have been new to wikipedia for only a month. With Care, Osvaldo — Preceding unsigned comment added by Osvaldo2007 (talk • contribs)

  • Hi Osvaldo2007 if others have appeared unkind it is probably not personal but just that a lot of regular editors have to deal with endless vandalism, promotion and huge backlogs of work so sometimes forget others are new and many trying there best. All editors are expected to be civil (see our Wikipedia:Civility policy) and Assume good faith. As for Draft:Mexican Criminal Investigation Agency all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). You currently only have one source, so look for others to add. Hope that helps. And don't forget the Wikipedia:Teahouse is there for new editors to ask for advice from many experienced editors. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 20:41, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Dear kylieTastic, thank you for advice. There was this issue were I got blocked from editing Fandom wiki (The Walking Dead wiki) 2 weeks ago by some guy called DalesRV. Can I get blocked on wikipedia or is there a different policy? With Concern, Osvaldo

  • Hi Osvaldo2007 yes many people do get blocked from editing Wikipedia but apart from extreme cases users are warned 1-4 times before a block. However this would be for behaviour such as vandalism, repeated unexplained removal of content, advertising, using multiple accounts, etc.... so for most editors who are here to build an encyclopedia and acting in good faith there is no worry about being blocked. I don't know anything about how fandom is run so I can't comment on that. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 21:25, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, KylieTastic. Also, can you re-check and approve my draft? I fixed all errors and added more detail. also, I had a problem last night were my article Mexican Federal Investigation Agency was redirected into Federal Ministerial Police. Is there a way I can prevent this from happening again? The guy who did it was an wiki administrator. How can I become administrator to prevent this?

  • Hi Osvaldo2007 as I said before: all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS), you still only have a single source. If an admin reverted your edit I would suggest talking to them on there talk page. As for becoming an admin involves lots of editing to show you understand policy then see Wikipedia:Requests for adminship. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 19:06, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, Kylie. Since you are from the UK im doing a little reasearch about the troubles that happened in northern ireland from the 60s to 90s. is there any reliable history website?

  • Hi Osvaldo2007 I'm not aware of any, history is not really my thing and the Northern Ireland situation has always been a mess with no easy fix. I would start by looking at the sources used in The Troubles. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 08:15, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Kylie. I was able to fix the draft. Can you check to resubmit please? I already used sources. That was all the was available. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Osvaldo2007 (talk • contribs) 19:12, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Declination of Marcus Chow

Hi KylieTastic, I am MarkieC07. I am inquiring regarding the declination of a recent draft I created on 25th May 2021, Marcus Chow. For your information, I followed the same format of A. Blomqvist's Wikipedia Page (https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._Blomqvist), but I don't understand why my draft can't get accepted but his draft went through. Marcus Chow and A. Blomqvist are both artists on Spotify. Can you kindly explain the reasoning? MarkieC07 (talk) 17:16, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi MarkieC07, each language Wikipedia has there own policies and guidelines - in general it appears that the more articles there are the stricter to the concept of encyclopedic content is applied. Your article has a single Spotify source that only shows the artist exists, not that they are 'notable'. See WP:MUSICBIO for the criteria for music notability, or WP:GNG for general notability. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 17:56, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Wiki Unsourced

I was creating this wiki: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Empires_of_the_Undergrowth

It was declined twice. I was told it is unsourced. What exactly does it mean? And what do I have to do? Can you kindly please tell. Shaon2007 (talk) 11:46, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

For a game wiki, is game website link, developer's website link, and steam link to download the game not enough as sources? What else is needed? Shaon2007 (talk) 05:31, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Shaon2007 no those are not independent, they just show that the game exists, if that was enough anyone could create an article about anything. That is not an encyclopedia that would we social media. All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). See Wikipedia:Notability (video games) for what is looked for for notability of a video game. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 09:12, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Spirit of Cascia

Kylie Tastic,

thank you for your efforts in approving my other article entitled "Project Schoolflight" and for a C-Class rating! since you are so aware of that subject matter, could you then review and approve a related article- "Spirit of Cascia" - the Baby Ace airplane that was the 1st airplane built in that project makes it very notable and it is awaiting review approval just as was "Project Schoolflight" and your background now with project schoolflight could be invaluable for cruising through the approval for "Spirit of Cascia". It is fully referenced as was project schoolflight Thankk you RDBACE1 (talk) 04:22, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi RDBACE1 happy to approve - it makes a change as less than 18% of reviews are approvals, we get a lot of junk submissions. However to be fair to all submitters I don't review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 09:25, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Midcoast Community Council

Kylie Tastic,

Thanks for looking at this new page. So I can better understand for future editing, why was this paragraph removed? 

   The councilmembers as a whole can be reached via  [38].

— Preceding unsigned comment added by DaveOlson-EG (talk • contribs)

  • Hi DaveOlson-EG because it is not encyclopedic content to give out contact details per WP:NOTDIRECTORY - putting "The councilmembers as a whole can be reached via..." is something you would have on the council webite, or social media. Also per Wikipedia:External links we do not have inline external links in the article, either links are sources in ref tags or go in the external links section. As it already has a link to midcoastcommunitycouncil.org readers can use that to go find more information including contact info etc I just removed. Hope that makes sense. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 15:15, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

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Reviewing an article

Hi,

Please can you review again this page after I added credible and different sources:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:High-Level_Panel_on_Digital_Cooperation#Reviewing_an_article

Best,

  • Hi Miketheil I didn't review the first time, I just tidied the ref format, and to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 09:24, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

hi my draft was declined

i created draft page of my village n declined as mentioned source is not verified by i m the resident i know my village and verify it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GSomal (talk • contribs)

  • Hi GSomal that's not how Wikipedia works - that's how social media works. We need verifiable sources, not personal declarations. All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 21:26, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Dhruv_Gogia

Hi KylieTastic, I don't understand why my draft Draft:Dhruv_Gogia is getting rejected for the second time. I am a verified artist with a decent following, I also have a notable presence all around. I have specifically cited and used relevant information according to Wikipedia standards. Can you suggest what should I add or delete in order for it to get accepted. You can verify my socials and internet presence. Cheers, Dhruv! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Biography.mans (talk • contribs)

  • Awesome KylieTastic, if you could just take your time and go through the little matter presented on the page you'd know that it falls under a: received a notable award, b: has a large fan base or a siginificant "cult" following. If you'd like, there's a lot more to add however I want to first get the page rolling and then further edit as time passes. I hope you understand and will look into it. It's quite urgent to get it done. cheers, Dhruv.

decline of article again

this is unfair way u r mentioning that the way i have submitted the article is the was social media work, now tell me how can cite my village in India, i is hard to cite a rural village and u r doing unfair thing by not letting people of village not sharing wikipedia platform which is free for everybody and moreover according to u would i need to post pictures of sepoy surinder singh statue which is made outside our village in his memory of his valour for the country. he died fighting terrorists, then u would call it verified source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GSomal (talk • contribs)

  • GSomal I did not say you had submitted like social media but that Wikipedia requires reliable sources not what individuals claim. I have no reason to doubt you are being truthful and are a as you say a "resident i know my village and verify it." but you must know the world if full of people posting online things that are not true so Wikipedia requires reliable sources. It is not that your word is not trusted but even administrators or Wikimedia staff must provide sources. It is not personal - just the rules - for everyone. There are lots of 'notable' subjects in the world that do not have verifiable sources and so they cannot get a Wikipedia article, but that is unlikely for a village. Per WP:GEOLAND "Populated, legally recognized places are typically presumed to be notable, even if their population is very low", so as a start you need sources to show it exists and is populated (such as the Indian census data, government records). Also for a start many places have the same name so we need coordinates to show which subject we are talking about. I found the Rorian-Malaudh road but on google maps I could not see a place labelled Rorian? Regards KylieTastic (talk) 18:21, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Studio Montagne

Hello, why don't you validate the article on the Mountain Studio?

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Albéric Langard (talk • contribs) 14:58, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Albéric Langard all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). You have no sources, let alone significant coverage in multiple independent reliable ones. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 18:23, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Vandalism Fighter Star

Vandalism Fighter Star
You are an actual fighter of vandalism.Don't give up.It's ok if vandalism happens in your user page.You are an a real civilian. UniverseExplorer0 (talk) 10:05, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Hello & Thank You

Greetings KylieTastic, I am Mit_eddie. You'd declined a draft earlier, and I wanted to thank you for your advice. I understand you may not be re-reviewing the draft, but in case you do, please find it updated with more sources—the information is relevant to the US, so I've included sources from additional US news sources. Thank you & happy editing :)

  • Hey ((u|Mit eddie}} no worries, happy you understood the issue and knew how to address. I'm too tired to look at the actual content, but I do see you have added multiple new sources and the tools i use are flagging none as dubious/unreliable. Hopefully someone will review soon and either accept or give more feedback. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 22:07, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Well done with the AFC work again! https://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/27659 Theroadislong (talk) 16:36, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Hey Theroadislong you too :) and it really is so nice to see the backlog finally (slowly) heading in the right direction. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 16:44, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Stylekhoj

Hey please let me know? How should i improve my article and what should be added, or removed " stylekhoj " Javidarfan (talk) 06:12, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Javidarfan all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 09:59, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Work

Nice work! I did that on purpose. I also wanted to play around and see the response time.

But here is the thing: The phenomena is hard to locate all documents. Why would you decline that???

User:Bbb23 Blocked me

User:Bbb23 block me on 6/19/2021 for sockpuppetry. The accusations against me are false and I already requested appeal key and they havent gotten back to me yet. is there a way i can block user:Bbb23 for false accusations?-Banda007 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Banda007 (talk • contribs) 14:55, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Banda007 well if you are blocked on another account be creating another you are evading the block see WP:BLOCKEVASION which is not going to help. You need to go back to your blocked account and appeal the block - see Wikipedia:Guide to appealing blocks. If your block was overturned and you believed that Bbb23 had been in serious error then you could take the complaint to WP:ANI. However as they are a very experienced editor and admin (since 2012) I would guess that the block was done for very valid reasons but mistakes happen which is why there is an appeal option. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 15:12, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Declination of My Post

Hi KylieTastic, I am User:Ahmad Salim Marouf. I am inquiring regarding the declination of my recent draft I created on 25th May 2021, Marcus Chow. Actually, my title about my draft was supposed to be "streaming plug" but since I didn't know if my writing was according to wikipedia's policies thus I submitted it as such could you please kindly tell me the wrongs of my draft which need to be fixed? Eagerly waiting for your reply TIA KylieTastic

A request

I could understand that you, KylieTastic declined the submission of my draft article'Traditional Malayalam months'.So can you tell me the reason why you declined that draft article. Yours sincerely, Hrishikesh Namboothiri V

What are the'reliable sources' that you mentioned? Please clear my doubt.

  • Hi Hrishikesh Namboothiri V reliable sources are generally published sources such as newspapers, books or websites but not including user created sources such as Wikis, IMDB, etc Wikipedia:Reliable sources - also see WP:RSPSOURCES that has a list of often uses sources highlighting those that are not reliable. Note that a lot of existing articles are not using only reliable sources - especaiily if created a long time ago such as Malayalam calendar that a blog for one. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 10:20, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Question regarding rejected submission

Hey there Kylie, hope you're doing well.

As per your previous remarks I have deleted all the Wikipedia references/citings and replaced these with independent music related outlets such as Vice, Metrolyrics, Soundclick and Genius.

I understand that these replacements are unacceptable for you as well? Surely, these sources are not controlled by me or the subject.

Would you happen to have any recommendations to cite for music producers?

Lastly, in trying to learn from similar pages, I notice there are quite some akin music producers that have even less, or alternatively, no references at all.

How does that work, could you shed some light on that?

All the best, {signature}

'This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.' — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fvw123 (talk • contribs)

  • Hi Fvw123 all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Genius is also not considered a very reliable source as it has user-generated content (but better than others) even so the first does not mention the subject and the second just a mention. The next two sources are just lists with nothing much about the subject, the last two currently return server not found errors. Sorry but I don't have any advice for article on music producers, and I would guess that even very talented and respected ones may not have the sources to show "notabilty". Unfortunately although the Wikipedia notability standards are generally good they do discard many that do good work that is not noticed and allow some who I would consider somewhat not worth it to have articles. As for other articles see Wikipedia:Other Stuff Exists - basically yes there was lots of stuff created in the past that does not meet the standards but we are more likely to delete or improve that other stuff than it help get more under-sourced material approved. So in short a music producer is a hard subject, and you need that significant coverage in independent reliable sources. Hope that helps explain things. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 20:55, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Regarding my submission about an esports team called RSP Esports.

I got your note about how my new site has been rejected because the references only passingly mentioned RSP Esports in them (which I am not sure how that is accutite). I am not sure how to fix this issue and I worked really hard on that page. :( Can you tell me what I can do to fix that? Thank you so much. <3 Here is the link, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:RSP_Esports — Preceding unsigned comment added by RSP Esports (talk • contribs) 21:30, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi RSP Esports firstly you are in breach of the Wikipedia:Username policy with a name representing a group. As for the article, all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS) - you have no independent sources. Wikipedia is not for promotion, it's an encyclopedia. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 21:34, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

KTZT-CD

This is only my first time creating a article for Wikipedia, and I want it to be successful, could you please help me? TulsaOklahoma (talk) 00:48, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Or edit it for me? TulsaOklahoma (talk) 00:49, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi TulsaOklahoma we have over 4100 other waiting drafts and 200+ new each day, plus I have a lot of articles I want to write/improve. So sorry no I can't help edit. Firstly all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS) - so try to find more sources and check out Wikipedia:Notability (media) and WP:BCASTOUTCOMES. Also I happen to know Neutralhomer is interested in radio station drafts so they may be able to help you. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 08:30, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Murtaza ali the musician and ist pop singer of jand k approve this page

What ever I wrote in creation article of murtaza ali is authentic approve the article in Wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ali2351 (talk • contribs)

Regarding my draft rejection

I have provided a book reference, that was published by a renowned university in India, known for its research in Dravidian culture. I felt this is sufficient, given the authenticity and fame of the university. However, you have rejected it saying it is not a reliable source. Can you please tell me what more info needs to be provided?

Article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Kadirimangalam_Munindraswami 

 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lravisankar (talk • contribs) 11:24, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Hi Lravisankar all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). I did not say the book was not a reliable source, but the content was not supported by reliable sources. i.e multiple, and the content written actually backed by the sources. Although I have no access to the book to review, the content was not written in as a neutral encyclopedic article that would be backed by an academic text. Frankly it read more like a story - things like "This fondled child Muniswamy Reddy had seeds of devotion sown into his heart in his fourth year itself.". It reads like a mythical/religious story and that is not what an encyclopedic is for. And now you submitted a very in Telugu to English Wikipedia rather than https://te.wikipedia.org. KylieTastic (talk) 09:41, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Request

Please note that species names are never capitalized. Could you please delete Kumlienia Cooleyae as a double Db-error since it is actually Arcteranthis cooleyae? Abductive (reasoning) 21:40, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

P.S. It's worse; there's only one species in the genus, so Arcteranthis cooleyae is now a redirect to Arcteranthis. Abductive (reasoning) 01:03, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Hi Abductive yup sorry just not paying enough attention on not correcting that capitalisation. I'm never sure how exactly a name is accepted and what source to use as authoritative? As AfC is only supposed to hold back the junk we generally just accept and let those with area knowledge sort out any issues, case in point. I note that the images on your source from the original writing have the name as "Ranunculus cooleyae" which is what the ITIS also have as the "accepted" name. I'm guessing this was originally as "Ranunculus cooleyae" but has later been re classified as a new genus? I note that in the POWO source in the bibliography it cites it as not accepted by Govaerts, R. (2003) saying cited as Ranunculus cooleyae. So is the accepted name just a consensus rather than an authoritative one, and if so how do we choose which when different sources give different accepted names? Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 10:13, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
The consensus at WP:PLANTS is to follow POWO. Govaerts is running it, so he's allowed to override his 2003 paper. Abductive (reasoning) 10:43, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Holy Coves

Hi KylieTastic, Hope you are well, thankyou for looking at my submission for the Holy Coves. I have made amendments and resubmitted. I really appreciate any help/advice/comments :) have a great day! FlowerMoon593 (talk) 12:34, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi FlowerMoon593 thanks. However to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. As for advice the guidelines the reviewer will use is WP:MUSICBIO look at the criteria there and if the band meets the criteria make sure there are references to show they do. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 12:42, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi Thankyou for sending me the link for music bio, i will read up on that now :) much appreicated! Thankyou for your time FlowerMoon593 (talk) 12:45, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Royal Viking Star Class Cruise Ships

hi this is alterra2007 i believe you reviewed my draft of royal viking sky class cruise ships and for some reason who have deleted it. I put multiple days of work into the article and didnt copy anything and could you please explain why you deleted it and is their a way i can get it back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alterra2007 (talk • contribs)

  • Hi Alterra2007 yes I did review Draft:Royal Viking Star Class Cruise Ships and if I remember it was declined at first because it only had one source. However then due to how the text looked I can a copyright violation check on it and it came back showing large amount of text copied from http://danceafloat.co.uk/cruiselines/ - So I falgged as a copyright violation because for obvious legal reasons Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. The an admin checked and agreed and deleted the article. I can no longer see the text so cannot check but I believe their was the intro section that did not come back as a copy vio so if you ask the deleting admin they may do a partial refund, but that is up to the individual admin. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 11:25, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Lokesh Chugh

You have deleted the page I created about Mr. Lokesh Chugh, he is a public figure and an eminent politician who has elevated and spearheaded many students issue. Next, he has verified twitter and facebook handles so, I am of the view that he has complete right to be on wikipedia, a normal information seeking platform for the young masses. If he is my role model I think he is definitely of thousands more who seek his help for getting their ways right. Your page deletion won't harm in any way, but will harm the nation's youth who want to know about him and consider him as an ideal. I hope that you will be able to retrieve the importance of this place for the students.--Muskaan sachdeva (talk) 16:34, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Greetings, you have declined the submission of this page, kindly tell me what is the reason for the same. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Lokesh_Chugh#Page_about_Mr._Lokesh_Chugh%2C_an_eminent_politician_who_is_well_known_for_raising_student_matters._We_look_forward_to_approval_of_the_concerned_page.--Muskaan sachdeva (talk) 05:27, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Muskaan sachdeva as the decline notice says at the top you should add your references inline - i.e at the actually places they are sources for. With 14 references any reader is left searching for if the claim has a source or not. If an article just has three or four really good sources then it would be OK, but as it stands its difficult to verify with so many sources. So if you could move the sources to the information they are sources for, or at least the section, and resubmit. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 08:55, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Greetings, got the changes done as directed by you. Kindly have a look at the draft now. Looking forward to your response. Thank you so much--Muskaan sachdeva (talk) 11:58, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Please take another look at my draft

Hello Goodmorning. A few months ago you declined an Wikipedia page for “Traphaven” due to notability. He has since been featured in multiple publications and is verified with a blue check by Instagram @traphaven. I took it upon myself to add 6 of the new references and I would appreciate if you took a look at the page for reconsideration. I would like to thank you in advance for your time.

And again the name of the draft page is “Traphaven “ Cruela757 (talk) 16:19, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Cruela757 thanks for adding additional references. I reverted the removed notices, so you now have the blue "Resubmit" button back - remember to "Publish changes" afterwards. However to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. Lastly note that notability is shown with significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources, and things such as having a blue check on Instagram does not count for notability here. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 16:25, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Ok thank you I resubmitted and published changes now I’m just going to keep my fingers crossed I’ve got a good feeling it will go threw this time he has gained a lot of recognition very fast Cruela757 (talk) 14:47, 5 July 2021 (UTC)


Request on 15:53:08, 12 July 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Zelchenko


Kyle, I'm even more backlogged than you and all I'm trying to do is get a stub article on this guy. The Manila Bulletin is the Philippines' largest daily newspaper. You don't write a political column in there for decades and rub shoulders with presidents without being noteworthy. There are enough living nobodies with scads of "independently sourced" news who get ghostwriters to write long Wiki articles on them, with most original material created by publicists and other ghostwriters. Guevara, as it happens, was a household name in the Philippines; one might say he was the Mike Royko of that country. He published several satirical books as did Royko, but of course those aren't independent sources, and so other than obituaries and a few praises, the majority of Royko's total output would be something equally akin to "self-sourcing" -- i.e., he wrote his own syndicated column for decades in one of our world's major dailies, which according to your mechanical view would not qualify as independently sourced. I don't read Tagalog, and the Manila Bulletin doesn't have online archives; otherwise, I'd find more sources. As it is, I think the obituaries (which, by definition, couldn't have been self-published) should be more than enough. I knew both Mike Royko and Joe Guevara personally; their status in their respective environments was of equal gravity, and one or two obituaries should be sufficient for now to get Mr. Guevara a stub. Let's not let our myopia turn Wikipedia into a gutless compendium of all-American crap while we shortchange the rest of the world and its culture due to ill-formed summary judgments.

P.S. I don't have time to muck around with this much longer, but I've sunk enough time into it that it would be a damned shame if a Wiki editor were to get it all deleted just due to a whim. But here's an independent source that corroborates the claims, adding he and his wife auctioned a single painting for over USD$1 million. If he's notable just for auctioning a painting, and that article (in another widely circulated daily) is independently saying he's notable, I suspect he's notable. What are we doing here?

https://www.pressreader.com/philippines/philippine-daily-inquirer-1109/20150629/281539404609057

Zelchenko (talk) 15:53, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Zelchenko with arguments like "You don't write a political column in there for decades and rub shoulders with presidents without being noteworthy" the answer is, then people will have written about them and use those sources. There are many subjects that do notable things in the normal interpretation of the word are notable but Wikipedia "Notability" requires that, in most cases, people have written about them. Yes I agree that by my own standards Wikipedias current policies from community consensus exclude some I would think are very notable, and include many subjects that I think have no worth to humanity. As a reviewer yes we are here to stop the vast amounts of complete junk going public (not what I consider this case is) but secondly we are here to stop the possible notable being deleted and to encourage improvement to the point they have a better than 50/50 chance of not getting deleted. You have written a lot above, but all that counts is the sources. Your first source is a blog that unless written by a known expert etc is considered unreliable, your 2nd and 4th are the same article reposted so we only count as one (or in truth less than one as it's deemed ref padding). So when I declined is was on only having one real reliable source. Your new 3rd reference is an improvement. I do encourage you to add any other source that writes about them, and re-submit. Also note that sources do not have to be in English or online, so if they are as much as a household name as you say I would expect other sources to exist in either English or Filipino or even other languages. If you can find a one or two more good sources that write about him and re-submit then it stands a good chance. All the best KylieTastic (talk) 22:10, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
KylieTastic Your premise is weak. I don't have a Wiki page, and I probably don't really deserve one at this stage of my career (I was just passed up for a Guggenheim, probably for related reasons). But I probably have had more news featuring me than Guevara. Why? Because I've been "newsworthy" on quite a few more occasions in my career than Guevara. Guevara, on the other hand, WROTE the news -- for 80 years, in a major daily! That's already noteworthy; despite your claims, he is already notable just from that evidence alone. As I pointed out before, outside of his own column and ecosystem (e.g., Chicago Sun-Times/Daily News, and The Trib magazine, a little professional rag), Royko himself didn't get any major significant coverage until after he died. Though Guevara wrote in English, the likeness may end there: The American-European journalism profession, and systems for English biography of journalists, are much more advanced than in, say, the Philippines. One of Wikipedia's goals, it is hoped, is to act as a repository or archive for information that might otherwise get drowned out or forgotten through excessive attention to details that don't matter. There are 80 years of print archives of The Manila Bulletin all over the Philippines. They're not easily accessible online, so we don't see the output. That's yet another cultural factor: The Philippines is impoverished, so their dailies lack the relative power that American and European papers have not only to promulgate and lionize their journalists, but also to digitize and publish their archives online. You're exhibiting a pretty heavy hand considering you're ignoring subtle little cultural and practical points like this.

Repeat after me: "Newsworthy" does not always mean "noteworthy."

Here's another example, likely ghosted for Edwin Hutchins: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_Hutchins

You haven't heard of him, but Hutchins is probably one of the 100 or 150 top psychologists of the 20th/21st century. He's a protege of David Rumelford and Don Norman. He had someone pen this, or else he did it himself. Whatever the case, he's not in the mainstream media and though he is in his 70's he is still rather too young to be pre-eulogized by colleagues or in the press. He doesn't have significant references in the mainstream media, or else someone hasn't found them yet. Gosh, how did he get past your gatekeepers, while thanks to you Guevara now has six months to live? Yet the page survives, and it should. You have to study the spirit of the rules alongside the letter of the rules; otherwise, you'll waste good people's time and make a big mess of history. People who spend time PRODUCING work of value often are not given nearly as much media attention as people who DON'T (witness Ivanka Trump). In fact, there tends to be a reverse correlation. There's a lot of subtle work to do in order to truly assess notability, not just checking the rulebook.

Finally, a lot of noteworthy individuals are noted only after death, and one should not have to get an obit into a major media outlet to earn a place in Wikipedia. So, Guevara only got mention in a couple of minor publications. (He's no doubt obitted and mentioned plenty of other times in the Manila Bulletin, although it's not online.) To give you an idea of how arbitrary the majors are regarding "real" obits, my father Alex was never very noteworthy; and yet, just after he died, I called two of his old colleagues at the Tribune and Sun-Times and, since he'd worked in journalism, he got full-length obits, written by actual reporters, in each paper's print editions. But it took a call and a push from me. Many other people died that week who were more newsworthy and more noteworthy. But their kids simply didn't know how to make the call. Now I'm making the call for Jose Guevara, and specifically because there's a dearth of evidence -- and yet some guy named Kylie Tastic is hanging up on me.

By the way: I'm not "ref padding," I simply don't have time to add more to this article, and I've already invested enough time into it to earn its promotion, not the threat of its deletion and the loss of my work. The fact is, there isn't much online or in English about Joe Guevara. If there's more, it might take more than six months, and by some future individual, to unearth it. Are you starting to get it?

Eighty years this guy is well known in journalism in the Philippines; he's dead and has no champion to get him on record, and an unpaid volunteer writer has to fight tooth and nail to write him into Wikipedia. All because some self-important person brandishing a rulebook has decided based on a strict reading that he's not "notable." We've already spent more ink on this than perhaps Guevara has ever had written about him -- and yet clearly he's "notable." Now, you've taken two hours out of my valuable time and sapped my energy for the rest of the day. I can't find anything more online for this guy. Do you have anything else to do? Since you seem to be digging your little heels in, where can I take this to appeal? Zelchenko (talk) 02:48, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

  • A long rant with insults and blaming me for your decision to waste 2 hours writing this, deserves no more of my time. KylieTastic (talk) 08:55, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
You're the one who decided to get involved and be heavy-handed. (Goodness, don't you have anything else to do??) A cursory reading of the notability rules shows that you haven't even taken your investigation to the necessary depth to make a proper judgment. I can't conjure up any more evidence, but this journalist is clearly a person of note who flourished sometime before digitally recorded history, and so the record happens to be sparse. This article has only marginally failed the basic criteria (and even this is debatable), and in your haste you haven't studied the case further. You deseve to live with every syllable of my "rant," and you deserve to spend as much time as you've made me spend on your rash decisions. I want to know how to get around you. You're not going to win this, so either stand down or let me know what little convoluted process I must engage in to get over a speedbump like yourself. Zelchenko (talk) 13:05, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
  • I have never been in the way, that's just a fiction you've made up. If you bothered to read rather than rant you would see the decline note has links on "Where to get help" and a big resubmit button. See the first answer I gave you "I do encourage you to add any other source that writes about them, and re-submit" KylieTastic (talk) 13:37, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-27

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Regarding Draft In Progress Draft:LiveWorkPlay

I am OK to wait as long as it takes, but I got a confusing email today, which is perhaps a scam, from a person who claims to be a senior Wikipedia editor who can "Research and rewrite the content in an encyclopedic tone, format the draft according to Wikipedia guidelines and get it approved, I will forward the final draft for you to review before submitting it." After thanking them and replying, after the fact I realized a request for cash is problem coming next. So if you find a minute, I just wanted to ask if there is actually anything more that needs doing other than just waiting, which is fine. Thanks! Iamthekanadian (talk)

  • Hey Iamthekanadian I'm very tired so just a quick answer, but it's important to address such scam concerns quickly. You are correct to suspect a scam as any "senior Wikipedia editor" should just advise for free. There have, I believe, been a couple of editors found to be doing such things in the past, but in general these are just scammers with little knowledge or skill and editors found out get blocked. We get lots of undisclosed paid content submitted but most is terrible adding no value at all - i.e. pure promise without merit and pure scam. Many of us volunteers treat paid editing as despicable given the amount of time we all give for free. Either a topic is notable or not - if a topic is notable then a few sentences and 3+ good sources is all that is needed, no magic editing needed. Also there really is no such thing as "senior Wikipedia editor", just some with more experience and some with more permissions - neither make you more "senior" or important than even a single edit from an anonymous/ip editor. So yes the key thing is waiting, but the good news is the seriously terrible backlog has been reducing for over 5500 a month ago to less than 4200 now, also a backlog drive is attempting to be run. Other than that would be to clearly state how you believe it passes WP:ORG. i.e. sources x,y & z are all significant coverage in independent reliable sources. Also you have multiple places with 4-5 sources - if one of the sources is reliable that is enough, sometimes 2 is good, but 4-5 (without reading them) suggests they are going to be 4-5 weak sources and weak sources to not add up to a good source, so I would advise trimming extra resource padding and keeping the best source(s). A statement such as "Co-Leader and Director of Communications Keenan Wellar" either has a good source to show it is true or not - having four just looks like reference spam. I hope that made some sense - Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 21:02, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

It does make sense and thanks for the scam warning. I can also explain the multiple sources - sometimes as you know a medis source just isn't available anymore - but an image of it pr a copy of the newscast is - but it's not hosted on the actual medis site and I got some feedback about how those were "garbage sources" and that sort of thing - for example, a documentary that was aired on Canadian Briadcasting Corporation but isn't online anymore except for a copy on YouTube. I received quite blunt feedback, right or wrong that "YouTube is never a good reference" and couldn't get into a reasonable conversation to solve the problem - so I figured put all the sources to support the particular content and perhaps avoid the issue - if a particular reviewer automatically dismisses a citation because it's YouTube (even if it's clearly a national broadcast news video) then maybe they'll simply delete that reference but not clobber the entire article as "lacking in security in secondary sources." Some of the experienced people who have helped with the draft has some quite different views on these issues and I honestly couldn't figure out what to do...so I thought perhaps wrongly four legitimate sources would offer the reviewer a choice that might satisfy their own take on the sourcing. Thanks for your time. Iamthekanadian (talk) 06:15, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

  • Hey Iamthekanadian yes although YouTube videos are generally unreliable, there are some cases they should be accepted i.e. form valid news sources. Normally I just make sure the title of the video clearly states the channel name to make it clearer. If someone told you it is never a good source they were unfortunately mistaken see WP:RSPYT. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 09:11, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Appreciate the follow up! Iamthekanadian (talk) 05:34, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Articles for Creation July 2021 Backlog Elimination Drive

Hello KylieTastic:

WikiProject Articles for creation is holding a month long Backlog Drive!
The goal of this drive is to eliminate the backlog of unreviewed articles. The drive is running until 31 July 2021.

Barnstars will be given out as awards at the end of the drive.
There is currently a backlog of over 2400 articles, so start reviewing articles. We're looking forward to your help!

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AfC review counts Quarry

Hello KylieTastic, I was wondering if this quarry includes drafts that have since been deleted. Could you let me know? Thanks, Pahunkat (talk) 10:57, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Pahunkat I was going to get say yes it does see this that says "The recentchanges table also records logged events such as page moves and deletions", however I'm having trouble proving that it does. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 12:23, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Hi Pahunkat oh! Seams I misunderstood and it does not include deleted, which in that case there are a lot of reviews not counted in that query. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 12:56, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
    Thanks KylieTastic, I've been wondering why my one was so low - I mainly work at 0-day old submissions, so plenty of blatant spam/copyvios there. Best, Pahunkat (talk) 13:31, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

My Review

Hello I am the creator of the article Hideaway (Wavves album) i was just wondering why you denied the article for publication after i cited sources. Have an amzing day AEWvsWWE (talk) 16:51, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi AEWvsWWE as per my comment their are guidelines for when an album is considered notable enough to get it's own article - See WP:NALBUMS for the criteria. Since it has only just been release it may be that new sources to show it meets the criteria appear soon - such as multiple reviews. If you think it already meets the criteria you need to add the source(s) to show it. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 16:55, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Tom Hill - Tennis Coach

Hi

I created a new page for Tom Hill. If I understand correctly, you've rejected this new page because he's not "important enough". If that's correct, I'd like to offer up some reasons for why he's a big deal.

He coaches https://www.wtatennis.com/players/318312/maria-sakkari She's number 19 in the world in women's tennis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Sakkari It's quite a big wikipedia page. She's earned $4m in prize money.

Her coach is 26. This is young for a coach of a top 20 tennis player He's her only coach. In tennis, it's a very big deal to be the main coach of a top 20 player. But to be a 26 year old - same age as his player - is beyond unusual.

Most top coaches have already had a professional career - which makes them generally 30 years old before they get started in coaching - but they wouldn't get a top 20 player unless they had had a pretty stellar professional career, or had proved themselves coaching others successfully.

Tom Hill has had no professional career. He hasn't even trained as a coach. He was a hitting partner.

I don't have time to look, but I'm confident that there won't be many top 20 players who have a coach that doesn't have their own page.

I follow tennis. But I have no personal interest in Tom Hill, other than he's interesting.

If you're a tennis person, I'm surprised you didn't find it as fascinating as I did that there wasn't already a page for him.

https://www.google.com/search?q=tom+hill+tennis+coach&rlz=1CAMKOE_enGB875&sxsrf=ALeKk02z3yixAh2keSnGYhxcy3Ls_RIEQg:1626628738203&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj_vfygkO3xAhUOT8AKHbG7DIcQ_AUoAnoECAEQBA&biw=1366&bih=617

This is the news page for google search "tom hill tennis coach"

I can't read the times article, but the teaser seems to indicate there's a lot of discussion about him. The thing is, you can't really talk about Sakkari's big improvements without talking about her coach.


https://www.skysports.com/tennis/news/32455/12327757/french-open-maria-sakkari-set-to-enjoy-first-grand-slam-quarter-final - I don't think this is a passing reference. This article talks mainly about Tom Hill's importance to her first grand slam quarter final.

I can't read this article either https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tennis/2021/01/30/helpful-british-game-meet-five-britons-coaching-wta-singles/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iandcharles (talk • contribs)

  • Hi Iandcharles, yes I declined Draft:Tom Hill (Tennis Coach) because it does not currently show why they are notable. WP:NTENNIS does not cover coaches so you would need to show they pass WP:BIO or the very general WP:GNG. Sorry I'm not a tennis person, or even a sports person and I don't find most biographies of living people (BLPs) that interesting, but to be honest that is because we get dozens of people daily writing about themselves and how great they are. We do have reviewers who specialise is sports and BLPs and if it had more sources I would probably leave to someone better. However a single source which is also an interview so not very independent will never be enough, so I'm happy to knock them back so you can improve. Yes it is really annoying when key sources are behind paywalls, I have access to a lot of historical newspapers as that's the area I work in but I too do not have access to The Times. Unfortunately a lots of search results will just be passing mentions, i.e. about the players he coaches with just a single line saying he is the coach, but I agree The Times lead suggests more. I'm not sure why you can not read the telegraph one as I can, which may suggest your not in the UK - in which case I recommend using a free VPN to access (I use all the time for US locked sites), I use https://windscribe.com/ as it has 10GB free per month. I would suggest two things: Firstly, add the sources you can find as only those actually on the article count for Draft submissions; secondly you could try asking for help/advice at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tennis where you'll find people interested in the subject. I hope that helps. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 18:09, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Afc review

Hello there,

Sorry to disturb you but I have a quick question about my Article for creation on 2021 Tarawa Champions League.

You said it needs lots of citations but have a look at this article it has one reference from the same website so what makes mine difference from that one?

Hope you can help me TickTokTickTok (talk) 13:24, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi TickTokTickTok I agree that is similar and IMHO should not have been created without the additional references than the creator marked as missing. It may be they do exist they just haven't been added yet. Unfortunately some experienced editors do not follow the guidelines as strictly as applied as AfC and New Page Patrol so making things seem rather unfair. However most articles accepted at AfC will be re-checked by those that patrol new main-space articles and if we accepted one it would be very likely to be challenged - and our job is to only accept articles that we believe have a better than 50/50 chance of surviving a deletion discussion. However one difference is that article is a season for an established championship with its own article Greenlandic Football Championship, as as the "premier football competition in Greenland" it's seasons will probably be considered notable even with missing references. You do not already have an article for the Tarawa Champions League or information about it on your first season article. You source is just stats with no in-depth information, and when I did a quick search I found no information on it (just 5 results), unlike "Greenlandic Football Championship" and "Isikkamik Arsaalluni Pissartanngorniunneq" that return a few thousand. Note that sources do not have to be in English, so if any exist in Gilbertese you can use them. I hope that makes sense? Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 13:53, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Cloudrovia

Hi KylieTastic,

I have updated my draft & I hope it is now suitable for approval.

The linked sources are independent, significant, reliable & secondary.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomasivor1 (talk • contribs)

  • Thanks for improving, and resubmitting. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 14:19, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Returnship Review and Clarification

Hello KyleTastic,

You declined my article about 'Returnship' and I kindof knew it might be coming based on feedback I got at the Teahouse saying my first pass came across like marketing material. I've re-drafted it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Returnshp but have not submitted it yet. I tried to stick with just the facts and some history, to which there's only ~14 years and most of that centers around a single organization. Is lack of history a/the problem? Thanks. Tchula65 (talk) 17:08, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

  • Hey Tchula65 no the amount of history of a subject is not a factor, their are notable subjects that are days old and non-notable ones a hundred years old. The justia.com source just shows it's been trademarked which if trying to show this is a general term is mute. The collinsdictionary.com source just shows its a suggestion so adds nothing to notability. So basically as it stands it does not show notability and it has several unsourced sections. However a quick google shows nearly a million hits, so a notable article could probably be made. Either find sources or remove unsourced content, and find sources with more weight than just being a "New Word Suggestion" (that does not mean you have to remove that one, only that it does not count to notability as a non accepted suggestion in 6 years. Hope that helps explain things. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 22:39, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
Thank you, yes. This is helpful but now comes the hard part of finding those sources with weight that establishes the notability. I'll keep plugging away. Thanks again. Tchula65 (talk) 15:38, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Request on 15:42:07, 22 July 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Ngm 7


Hi. This is Nima. Thank you for your prompt review. I worked on it this morning and resubmitted it for review. The page is for my dad who was a pioneer filmmaker in Iran who passed away 12 years ago. He has a Wiki page in Farsi. I wanted to remember him by creating a page in English for him. I hope it can get to wiki's standards this time. If not, I'll work on it more. Thanks again. Nima

Ngm 7 (talk) 15:42, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Ngm 7 happy to give a quick review of new submissions with basic issues rather than have submitters wait months (although now down from 5 to 3 months and soon 2...). As you are writing about your dad please review our guideline Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, even though doing so via draft/AfC is allowed. Per WP:DIRECTOR if the films they made count as a "significant or well-known work or collective body of work" they would be notable, or if they pass WP:BIO. Sorry that you lost him so early, it is never a good thing. All the best KylieTastic (talk) 21:34, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

White Muslims page rejected

Hey,

i have a few objections to the reasons given for rejection. firstly, this isn't a neologism in anyway. a neologism is a new term while the page i suggested is not inventing anything new, it is simply noting down the statistics of a demographic group that is known to exist. Whites are a race, and Muslim is a religion. white Muslims are simply Muslims belonging to the white race. this is simply a demographic group. there are articles for muslims in almost every other part of the world, belonging to all ethnicities and races that are much less in number and relevance, so this is no different and there is no reason to reject it. i feel i have given more than enough sources for the existence and figures of white Muslims, that alone should be enough as this is simply a demographic that exists, not a new term that is up for debate. if you could reconsider this that would be great. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MKhan12 (talk • contribs)

  • Hey MKhan12 from the way it was presented it was not clear it it was a neologism or not, but if not it felt constructed even though it is clear White Muslims exist. Yes there are many '.... Muslims' articles, but most are much more defined group that 'white', most from a quick search are country based rather than wide ethnic groups. So we have Black Muslims but only as a disambiguation page, and no Asian Muslims. So yes you have sources but not enough to show notability of the subject. The Guardian source does not mention White Muslims (only white Christians), and the https://www.lefigaro.fr/ source just redirects to the home page. The statement about "traditionally Muslim" white Muslims such as "Bosniaks and Albanians" is unsourced, as is the claim Bosnia has the most. I can see it is possible to expand this into a notable article but as it stands it seams like a few disjointed claims with several unsourced. Please note that it is not rejected, just declined for now, if you add sources for the unsourced claims and add a bit more content I can see it being possibly notable and would in fact be surprised if there wasn't a number of sources that more directly talked about "White Muslims". So fix your dead source, add sources for the non-sourced statements, and see what else you can find to add and please do then re-submit. All the best KylieTastic (talk) 21:07, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

Hey, i will try and add more sources and content before resubmitting. I want to point out that the 'dead source' is cause the article has been archived, if you click on the archived written in the reference, it takes you to the article. i actually just copy pasted this reference from the muslims in france page, so it's the same source as used and accepted there. similarly the guardian census source was just taken from the Islam in Uk page. the source is the census, the article is just summarizing it so it doesn't mention the details, but it has given the links for downloading the Census data.

  • Damn! I really should not have missed that archive link! KylieTastic (talk) 17:43, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

Cymblz article

Hello Kylie, the article "Cymblz" was denied due to sources, can you specify what needs a source so we can have this approved?

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ss7714 (talk • contribs)

  • Hi Ss7714 firstly all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Draft:Cymblz does not show this, and the two sources given do not even mention the subject. Also you said "we" so that suggest you need to review the Wikipedia:Conflict of interest guidelines. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 19:11, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Obhyesh

Hello KylieTastic,

Thanks for reviewing my submission. Unfortunately it didn't pass this time. Can you please suggest me the things I should do or provide to make it pass in future? Have a nice day.

Thanks once again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by The contributer7 (talk • contribs)

  • Hi The contributer7 all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). In this case we use Wikipedia:Notability (films) as linked to multiple times from the submission. All the current sources are just listing for the film - a subject existing is notability - and anyway as this is not due till Early 2022 is does not even fully exist yet. Look at the criteria as set out on Wikipedia:Notability (films). As it is not yet released it is possibly just WP:TOOSOON. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 13:49, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Hey Kylie, Thanks for guiding a new contributor. Though I am struggling to publish my first article on a Bengali movie called 'Obhyesh'. But your support means a lot.

Thanks The contributer7 (talk) 11:25, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi The contributer7 no worries but you have to be very careful with copying any text as copyright is a legal issue and so Wikipedia takes very seriously. Do note that films usually have to have very significant coverage to be deemed notable before they are released, the reason being that people often try to use Wikipedia for promotion which is not what it is for. Cheers KylieTastic (talk)

Re: Future Punk submission

Hello KylieTastic,

Im new to all this. Sorry if my article didn't meet standards. I guess i don't fully know what to do and this site, while awesome, is mad confusing.

All is know is, I personally AM starting this new genre of music. I DO have released content pertaining to it, and i'm trying to "cement" my own little creative creation here in "Future Punk" in the eco-spehere of "permanent" online documentation.

Understandably this is all new. New genre, new wiki, new user on said wiki (me), so I totally expect myself to mess it up.

How would I go about making this article more concrete and real given that, Yes, everything is new, and no, there's not a ton of stuff out about it yet, as I'm in the process of getting it out to the public.

Nonetheless, I'm quite excited about it, and I'm just trying to figure out how to get it right.

Thanks much

Agentmethod (talk) 18:50, 25 July 2021 (UTC)Agentmethod

  • Hi Agentmethod yes like many things the first dive info Wikipedia editing can be confusing, but no one expects new editors to know much and all good faiths edits are welcome. As for the article it depends what you mean by "I personally AM starting this new genre of music". If you mean starting the actual genre then it is unlikely to be 'notable' at this time, however if you just mean starting the article then that's fine. "Future Punk" actually has a lot of google hits, but they seam to cover many topics, so it's unclear if it's notable. You may find some help at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Music/Music genres task force. Note that all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). So that is the main thing with getting an article accepted, good sources, which reddit posts are not. Hope that helps. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 20:02, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

I just added more information and citations for the Matt Walsh (Daily Wire) draft

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Matt_Walsh_(Daily_Wire) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tofttwaswas (talk • contribs)

Re: Future Punk submission

Understood. So prevalence and notoriety matter. Well, thats the goal. Let's see how it goes.

  • Hi Agentmethod yes Wikipedia used the idea of Wikipedia:Notability as written in that guideline as the as basis for if an article is acceptable. It is far from perfect but it keeps this more Encyclopedic and keeps most of the promotional and trivial out. Good luck with your endeavours. KylieTastic (talk) 20:26, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

Draft:List of 2022 albums

Hello, I want to ask details about your rejection of the Draft:List of 2022 albums. I am not the one who submitted it for acceptance, as I stated in the in the edit summaries that I think this list needs at least two more album listings with known release dates, but that differs from your view of WP:CRYSTAL, which to me seems to imply that you would not accept this list until 2022 when the first few albums have actually been released. I want to point out that we are using reliable sources with stated release dates for the albums, and albums are released on a schedule that record labels aim to stick to. I also want to point out that this list is part of a series of lists of albums, and that the previous lists have been created in the year prior to the list date, generally in the month of June or July, so in fact the List of 2022 albums is actually running late. Therefore, in my opinion, when we have at least four albums with known release dates, I intend to submit this list for release into the wild, and I want to find out what criteria you and other administrators are using to evaluate such lists. Thank you. Mburrell (talk) 16:00, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

  • Hey Mburrell, this I believe is a case of the unfair imbalance of now the 'rules' are applied to some more than others. If you had created in main-space as an autopatrolled editor I doubt it would have been challenged, however some watch AfC accepts and would I believe AfD if we accepted. However it is borderline in my view and no I don't think in needs to wait until 2022. My thoughts on WP:CRYSTAL is as a list rather than an article it should be fine as long as the sources are reasonable expectations rather than rumours. I would say that six months before the first 'fixed' date is too early for me, 2 or 3 seams more appropriate, but I would also not consider AfDing for that reason, as created a few months too soon is not reason enough for me. To my mind it seams too speculative especially in the current pandemic, and we have had multiple articles about things submitted that would normally have happened in 2021 that didn't. So if you want to be bold and move to article-space you'll have no bite back by me, and if you or the IP creator re-submit I would not decline again but nor would I accept, just yet. I hope that made sense, but I am very tired so apologies if any of my words have wibbled. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 21:01, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for your thoughtful and polite response. I am not ready to submit the list myself. I hold it to the standard that at least four albums must be listed that have definitive known release dates. The TBA table is really a Crystal Ball to satisfy those who just have to post something, although it is backed by citations that do state a release in that year. A TBA release in a month is still wishy-washy. So right now I see the list as having only one valid listing, which is insufficient by my criteria. I admit that in years past I have created the lists in main space, but last year I did that only to find out there was a draft version out there, so I looked this year and found one, so I am trying to abide with that one. I don't think the list is ready yet, but I have laid out my expectations, and will submit when that goal is reached. It does not prevent others from submitting, just holding me back. Mburrell (talk) 21:33, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

IMDb reliability and Jose Perez (actor)

Hello KylieTastic,

I was told that "IMDb ... may be added ... for verifiability."

I am only retaining it for that purpose. Making multiple citations to one source (IMDb) allows me to remove several other citations which were the cause of complaint by my latest reviewer. Am I misunderstanding preferences and requirements again?

Thank you for your attention.Perrydigm (talk) 20:47, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Perrydigm see Wikipedia:Citing IMDb but unless marked as written by the Writers Guild of America or Motion Picture Association ratings it will be judge more as a negative then any possitive. Unfortunately IMDB used to be quite good, but now it's just used so much as a spam source. People often just create profiles with the most obvious outrageous lies that it has devalued all the good information, and since none has any source to verify it's rather worthless. It is a shame as it used to be reasonable, but now people create profiles with no relation to movies and obvious easy checked lies with no checks. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 21:01, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Thanks KylieTastic. That is so ironic, because on this subject IMDb is the most accurate and comprehensive source I’ve found! I’ve looked Perez up in several books and on a variety of websites and they either only list a small subset of his work (“specials” or “pilots” or whatever) or they confuse and combine his work with other people with the same name(talk about unreliable)! Oh well. I guess I just have to piece together ‘subset’ sources… Perrydigm (talk) 21:45, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Please let me know why my article was rejected?

Hello, please let me know why my article was rejected (cyberbiznes.pl). The content was written as required. I am the owner of this website and I have all copyrights. Best Regards Antoniewicz1977

Hello! About my page ‘I Believe - song Mel B’

Hello. Thank you for reviewing my page about the song by Mel B ‘I Believe’. I’ve added some more information and links onto it so I hope you will have a look. Thank you. Feel free to make any changes to it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spiceboy999 (talk • contribs)

After the Fact Inquiry

You refer at the AFC talk page to a user who was causing you and other reviewers a lot of trouble, and I tried to look for them so that I will know in advance who they are when I encounter them. I think that I have missed them. Who is the difficult user, and what is their obsession (e.g., themselves?)? Robert McClenon (talk) 15:35, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Canon EOS R3

An article you recently created, Canon EOS R3, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Currently, there is a single, primary source. Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Onel5969 TT me 14:20, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

"Currently, there is a single, primary source" - Yes, there is only one reference ... It's the page of the manufacturer (Canon Inc.). Who else would be a better, more reliable and trustworthy source than the manufacturer of the camera itself? I could add a couple of references to pages that have a bunch of speculations and rumours on them (which some of them already turned out to be false). The last time I checked theorising was not welcome on Wikipedia. Did that change in the past at some point?
"Information that can't be referenced should be removed" - I only added information that was provided by the main source (again: data provided by the manufacturer). If you read the source, you would know!
Considering the poor and very few reasoning, I question the move as neither being well thought out nor necessary. Therefore I the article should be moved back or at least one comprehensible argument should be added
--D-Kuru (talk) 15:09, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
User:D-Kuru - There are two problems with the draft as currently written. First, it has no independent sources. The manufacturer is not an independent source. Second, the camera has not yet been delivered. See Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Products that have been announced but not delivered are seldom entitled to their own article. Before lecturing a reviewer, I suggest that you either read Wikipedia policies and guidelines two more times and become familiar with them, or accept that some reviewers know those policies better than you do. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:31, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
  • (edit conflict) Hi D-Kuru you are correct that adding speculations and rumours would not be helpful. Yes the official source is key to the facts, however Wikipedia is not a publishing platform that all things. It uses a standard based on 'notability' (See WP:N), so until more independent reliable sources are available it is just WP:TOOSOON. Hopefully it wont be long before some samples are sent out to reviewers and once there are hands-on reviews I'm sure it will pass notability. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 15:37, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
"adding speculations and rumours would not be helpful" - thats why there is only one source - because it's the only one that is really relyable.
"Wikipedia is not a publishing platform that all things. It uses a standard based on 'notability'" - I suggest you to take a look at Template:Canon EOS digital cameras. I'm sorry to say, but questioning the "notability" of this camera just shows how little you know of this field.
So random "reviewers" count more than official statements of companies? Now I can no longer question the move in general, but I also have to question your judgement of a reliable source. This page does only contain technical information that no reviewer will find out by themselves. They will copy what Canon says. Or do you seriously think that you much valued "reviewer" will say anything else than Canon?
"it will pass notability" - For sure it will. With the exact same information that is in it already. In sum you just waste my and everybody else' time. Thank you very much for this
--D-Kuru (talk) 16:01, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
BTW: You are more than welcome to find a credible source for this as well. I'll wait for them --D-Kuru (talk) 16:10, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
  • D-Kuru you may not like Wikipedias Wikipedia:Notability guidelines, many of the reviewers don't 100% agree with them. We do not review based on personal opinion or I would have accepted as a Canon SLR and DSLR user for several decades. However we have to judge on the current guidelines which first Onel5969, then myself, then above Robert McClenon feel it does not. You are more than welcome to re-submit for another opinion, and I will certainly leave it to someone else. I did have a quick look as I do especially with subjects I'm interested in but deemed it too soon as it appears some do have early models, but information is still protected by NDAs. KylieTastic (talk) 16:13, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
Yes, User:D-Kuru, random reviewers count more than the statements of the company, because neutral point of view is the second pillar of Wikipedia. If we were to rely on the statements of the company, we would be an advertising platform. There is nothing wrong with an advertising platform; it just isn't what Wikipedia is. We are an encyclopedia based on neutral point of view, and we rely on what independent third parties say. That is the way it is. The statements of the company are reliable as being what the company says, but we are covering what independent sources have reported. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:10, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Did you make these changes in the footnotes? so quick! Thank you so much (I am an absolute beginner here :) Wa88kazza (talk) 22:16, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Hey Wa88kazza at first we are all slow and learning, and then you pick up knowledge, tools and confidence that allows you to do more. Happy to help. All the best KylieTastic (talk) 22:19, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

A pie for you!

Thank you for helping with the query for the AfC backlog drive leaderboard, and for helping to keep it updated! Enterprisey (talk!) 07:56, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Request on 19:04:05, 28 July 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Cemaran


This article should be published, Kasra Abbaszadeh is a young Iranian composer, and he is very popular among the Turkish people, I do not know him very well, but I have listened to his song. Thanks to Wikipedia and its esteemed members .

Cemaran (talk) 19:04, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Hey Kylie!

Whats the process where somone like you gets to have the privelage to review drafts and accept or declinethem? Just asking to set a goal! Free free to respond here or on my page. 1xKingVampTalkToMe 07:09, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

  • Hey 1xKingVamp I would not call it a privilege, it's not ideal having a single person judge rather than use consensus like other parts. However it became necessary because of the amount of complete junk, copyright violations, adverts, abuse etc that used to be posted live. The requirements are actually very low see WP:AFC/P but usually if people don't have a lot more experience they make too many mistakes and can taken off the list again. First thing it's good to review the notability guidelines see Wikipedia:Notability. Then there are two good ways to get the experience: participate at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion, you don't always have to add your own opinion but see what people say, which guidelines they reference for reasons for delete or keep and see what the outcomes are. After all AfCs job is to just not accept things that don't have a 50/50 chance at AfD. The other good way to learn is Wikipedia:New pages patrol/School. All the best KylieTastic (talk) 08:29, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Arle Court park and ride

Hi, I'm not sure if you're aware, but WP:GEOSCOPE refers to events. The article was about a bus station, not an event, and I think it passes WP:GNG. NemesisAT (talk) 20:55, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

  • Yup wrong to add GEOSCOPE - brain obvioulsy misfiring there :/ KylieTastic (talk) 21:11, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Maryam Amoozeydi

hello...i hope everything being ok please let me know why my article was declined and if you have time... could you help me to edit and publish it?! where am i wrong and what are my mistakes?! i will be so thankful Hana1373m (talk) 22:17, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

thanks for youre reply i try better next time❤ Hana1373m (talk) 08:31, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Request on 16:16:51, 31 July 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Rillington

I note that you have also rejected the article about television channel Sky Max on the same grounds as User talk:Dreamy Jazz did despite me adding three more references - two are independent references and the third is from the official Sky press release which provides full details about the channel. I will soon be adding a further independent reference.

Given that many articles on Wikipedia have far fewer independent references than the number on this article, I am curious to know just how many more references are going to be needed for this article to be moved from draft and onto Wikipedia.

Any help would be appreciated.

And I've also posted this request for assistance on the Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk page to get further help, and to try to avoid this happening again. Rillington (talk) 16:16, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

  • Hey Rillington there are no fixed rules but apart from some subjects it is generally accepted that 3 good sources is enough. In this case the first two are not independent so don;t count to notability (but are obviously fine for sourcing facts). The third source has been deemed by the community as "Generally unreliable" see WP:METRO - however in this case I don't find it terrible (apart from the my browser stopping 81 ads and trackers... yuk!), and the last is OK ish but it's more about the new portfolio with just one sentence on Max. However both of these are mostly just re-reporting on the sky announcements as they can add little until it's launched. I would count this as just WP:TOOSOON as being Sky I'm sure this will get lots of press good or bad post launch. Hope that explains things. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 16:38, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for your prompt reply, and I'm also getting good feedback on the Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk page.

As you say, the non-independent courses are sued to obtain the facts and I added the reference after the original article was placed into draft.

I shall continue to look for, and to add, further independent references and I would expect there to be at least three by the time I re-submit this article.

It's just so frustrating that my efforts on this article have so far been rejected and relegated into the in-between world of Wikipedia draft. Rillington (talk) 16:47, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Rillington yes the Wikipedia notability guidelines (WP:N) can be confusing and frustrating, not just to new users (there is a commons admin of 14 years in one of the above sections getting frustrated). I'm pretty sure and from the other replies on the article and Help desk that if this has been accepted by us, it would have been been sent to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion as new page patrollers examine most of AfC accepts. There are articles that I would write if I could find enough sources, sometimes it's hard. In this case as I said I'm sure they will appear in time this being Sky. The notability guidelines are there to stop junk and promotion but they are not perfect, but they keep this more like an Encyclopedic and less like facebook or fandom. All the best KylieTastic (talk) 17:01, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for your supportive comments.
I fully accept the reasons why the notability guidelines exist and they are for the right reasons but I am falling foul to the harshness of them here, especially when there are loads of articles which have fewer, nonindependent references than this article. Let me add the additional references and see where we are at that point and if ok, I'll ask you to further comment before I resubmit the article, so as to avoid any prospect of the article being deleted. Rillington (talk) 17:08, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
I've now added two more independent references, one replacing a direct reference. The article now has four indepdendent references. Surely this is enough? Rillington (talk) 12:23, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
Hey Rillington I'm tied up with real-life things at the moment, but I just thought I would point out that as you are not a new user or the creator you do have the option to be WP:BOLD and move back to main-space yourself - per WP:DRAFTOBJECT. No one should then re-draftify and they would have to take to AfD if the really objected. As you are not autopatrolled it would be vetted by WP:NPP so probably depends on who. As you are part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Television/British television task force I would bring up there or [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Television and if you can get consensus then you know you'll have the backing if taken to AfD. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 14:23, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for your reply. My hunch is to let things lie for a short while and resubmit the article in a few weeks to co-inside with its launch. I think right now that if I was to WP:DRAFTOBJECT, there would be a likely possibility of an AfD and this seems too risky given the number of objections already placed about the article even existing on the main site. And when you do have the chance, if you could have a look at the article as it now stands given the additional independent references, I'd be most grateful. Rillington (talk) 13:43, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Request for blue lock on article Federal Investigations Agency

Dear User:KylieTastic, I would like you to give a blue lock on the article Federal Investigations Agency since it continues to be re-directed to Federal Ministerial Police. Even though I am only 14 years old I know Wikipedia rules and I am considering this revert as Vandalism.- Sincerely and With Concerns-User:SANCHO2398.

Trying to add an extra layer of security to your user page

Hey. Can I do something to protect your page and to prevent vandalism? Trust me, please. :(

Doctorine Dark (talk) 14:39, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Regarding an article approval / Reliable source issue paladin

Hello Kylie,

Yesterday, i have created and article and it's not approved due to reference issues.

Today, i have added references and still cannot send the revised article for further investigation or approval. I have added academic articles, published issues and govermental istutue's web links etc. but the message says these are not reliable citing sources.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:%C5%9Eakir_Bayhan

the link is above. Could you please check and let me know how can i proceed.

could you please help on this issue.

Looking forward to having your news.

Thanks Paladinedreamer (talk) 09:35, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Paladinedreamer thanks for adding sources. If ready to submit click the blue "Resubmit" button on the decline notice then save with the "Publish changes" button at the bottom. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 10:08, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Hello KylieTastic Thanks a lot for your help. I have resubmitted and publish it for further action. I hope this time it works.

Draft:Sagar Surya

  • Hai KylieTastic. today i am submiting a article its rejected it shows hey do not show significant coverage. the person plays a lead role in malayalam filim. today i am adding some news links and remove some contents.so could you please help to publish this article

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Sagar_Surya — Preceding unsigned comment added by Contrahunter (talk • contribs)

  • Hi Contrahunter you have submitted Draft:Sagar Surya for review but as you had not used the resubmit button it did not correctly have a submit date-time and submitter name, so I fixed up the submit. So it is currently one of ~850 articles awaiting review. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 11:00, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank You KylieTastic

Some baklava for you!

Thanks for your help Paladinedreamer (talk) 12:44, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Naslen K Gafoor

The submission seens (This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article) Neslen does main lead roles in many Malayalam (Indian Language)films like Thanneer Mathan Dinangal, Kuruthi, Varane Avashyamund. kindly do the support for publishing this article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Contrahunter (talk • contribs)

  • Hi Contrahunter all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). None of the sources are in-depth and two are just basic listings. However from WP:NACTOR if he has had significant roles in multiple notable films, etc then he would be notable but you need to add source to show that he had significant roles in those films. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 18:20, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Joseph_Spinel

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Joseph_Spinel Dear KylieTastic, Iossif Spinel was the set designer for 60 Soviet films and worked with Sergei Eisenstein. His film "Ivan the Terrible" 1944-1948 is one of the greatest films in film history - you can find information about it everywhere. His filmography consists of films that are all mentioned in the English Wikipedia. Iossif Spinel was a very modest person, so there is not so much information about him. But I have already found several references and I really hope you will help me to publish my article about him. This person is of great importance for filmmakers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lubomudr58 (talk • contribs)

  • Hi Lubomudr58 I declined because it had no sources at the time, you have now added sources so please do re-submit. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 14:13, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Thank you very much! I have already done it!
  • Hello KylieTastic, Is it OK now or do I still have to correct something?
  • Hi Lubomudr58 it's waiting to be reviewed - I haven't really looked as I'm not active on Wikipedia at the moment. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 16:22, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Thanks! No need to rush! I sincerely hope that my correction meets Wikepedia's guideline.
  • Dear KylieTastic, Could you please tell me when could you look at the site? I am planning to negotiate an art exhibition of the works of I. Spinel soon, so it would be nice if I could add a wiki link in my letters. Lubomudr58 (talk) 18:10, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Hi Lubomudr58 sorry but I'm trying to step away from Wikipedia and more so AfC as the constant work became depressing, especially while the weather is good. Hopefully some other reviewer will get to it soon. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 09:45, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Regarding recent revert on name change

Hi KylieTastic, this is regarding https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sveta_Nedilja and the revert I got(for both of my changes, the first one I did without logging in, hence the IP address instead of my username in change history), the reason being "unsourced name change".

Before we talk about the topic, I would like to clear one thing up: The name of the village- "Sveta Nedjelja" translated would be "Saint Sunday", and "Sunday" is spelled differently in croatian dialects: Official Croatian(shtokavian): "Nedjelja", Dalmatian Hinterland(shtokavian): "Nedilja", residents of the village in question(chakavian): "Nedija". (I speak the dialects in question fluently, since I am a resident of the island the village is located on. If you want some sources on linguistic differences, I will search them up for you. I remember even Wikipedia having lengthy articles about Croatian language and dialects)

Firstly, you can take a look at the very first sentence of the article: "Sveta Nedilja, officially known as Sveta Nedjelja (by local Chakavian dialect: Svijeta Nedija) ... " So the official name is "Sveta Nedjelja", the local population call it "Sveta Nedija", so why there is the "Sveta Nedilja" naming at all? The people speaking this dialect are not even living on the island, they are located miles away in Dalmatian hinterland.

Secondly, if my name change needs to be backed up by sources, then why is the current one allowed to stay unsourced, and be taken as the correct one? Moreover, should the official Croatian name be used as a default name of the village? I don't need additional sources for that, since any of the already listed sources refer to it with official naming- "Sveta Nedjelja".

Cheers and looking forward to your reply! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sborapora (talk • contribs)

  • Hi Sborapora and welcome to Wikipedia. Wikipedia runs by certain guidelines to try resolve such issues. In this case we use WP:COMMONNAME which basically says use the most common name English speakers would use (the guidelines lists examples). So there are a number of places where the common name is not the official name, or the local name. Both Google and Bing maps use Sveta Nedilja as the name which is often a fair indication for a common name check. However a google for "Sveta Nedilja" returns only 52,300 results where "Sveta Nedjelja" returns 306,000 results so indicates the opposite, making it unclear. Although in general all editors are treated equal, a first edit changing such things we worry if it's for non-neutral reasons, such as political, ethnic, religious reasons - however as you have come to discuss I have no concerns with that. This is how Wikipedia works see WP:BRD. Note you changed the spelling in the filename breaking the image which was actually why I noticed. Causing such red-link errors makes it look like the edit result was not looked at, and as a new editor looks like possible point of view pushing (we get a lot of that sometimes causing dozens of errors) - but again I believe in this case just an honest mistake, but do look out for red errors. The key thing is also if the name was to change so should the page name, thus moved from Sveta Nedilja to Sveta Nedjelja and as both already exist that requires an admin or page mover so you would need to request at Wikipedia:Requested moves to do a swap. Also requesting there means others get to see and can agree or disagree. The google results suggest "Sveta Nedjelja" is correct but the maps and the actual village sign suggest "Sveta Nedilja" (and that is very odd for a road sign to be different from the official name!) but local business websites that I could find use "Sveta Nedjelja". So as it's not clear-cut such moves would still usually be requested as Wikipedia:Requested moves. Hope that explains things. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 10:39, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Request on 14:21:27, 29 August 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by BGUKHorror


Hi, my submission for BloodGuts UK Horror has been declined. I'm not sure why this is as I have set up the page in light there are many references across Wikipedia for BloodGuts UK Horror however wanted to inform what this was. Especially the awards and overall summary of awards including winners and nominations since 2012.

I've referenced the awards linked to the original source website so I'm unclear how to proceed with a successful submission?

Kind thanks for any help you can provide.

BGUKHorror (talk) 14:21, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi BGUKHorror all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). You have no independent sources at all, also yoour name suggests a conflict please see WP:COI and WP:PAID. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 14:23, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Major dutta

Kylie, i have seen you are biased towards indians who are editing articles of india's own politicians, why are you bringing your white privelge into this wikipedia editing, dont you know british colonialism on India ended in 1947, why are you showing your colonial mentality to us indians ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Major dutta (talk • contribs)

  • Major dutta you assume I'm white, you assume I'm biased, only a tiny fraction of my edits are about Indians? You are clearly changing images based I assume on some political or other bias. My bias is only against vandalism, POV pushers and abusers of copyright. Stop trying to use Wikipedia as a platform for your views. KylieTastic (talk) 18:30, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Conforth

I've raised the current problem at WP:BLPN, but you may think of a better approach. Regards, Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:50, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Request on 18:41:16, 30 August 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Eduardo.GutierrezPena


Thanks for your comments, KylieTastic. This is my first contribution to Wikipedia and I've got a lot to learn.

I'll revise my submission and resubmit when ready.

Eduardo.GutierrezPena (talk) 18:41, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Eduardo.GutierrezPena writing new articles from scratch is one of the hardest things to do so no worries about it taking a few attempts and we all have had to learn. As DGG stated in their comment look at WP:PROF aka Wikipedia:Notability (academics) as adding more sources to show how they meet WP:PROF will hopefully show notability and get approved. However as it is not my field without sources I could not say if they are notable or not, but a few more sources will let someone be able to judge. All the best KylieTastic (talk) 18:51, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Artist who got highest television award in Kerala

Hello KylieTastic, hope you are good. I've created a draft on Aswathy Sreekanth, winner of Kerala State Television Award for Best Actress. Can you please review the draft, Draft:Aswathy Sreekanth? Thank you --Sreeram Dilak (talk) 12:33, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Kerala State Television Award for Best Actress is the highest award given to television actresses. --Sreeram Dilak (talk) 12:34, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
  • Hi Sreeram Dilak I'm trying to take a break from AfC reviewing, and editing in general. Also to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. So you'll have to either just wait for another reviewer to pick it up, or find one with an interest in the topic area. All the best KylieTastic (talk) 14:24, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Draft: Pappantem saimantem piller

This movies was released on august 29 on the 3 ott platforms like zinea, plexigo, limelight i am adding the geniune reference about the movie so kindly suppot to publish this article Contrahunter (talk) 18:51, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Request on 20:38:41, 3 September 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by 27.5.176.115


27.5.176.115 (talk) 20:38, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

  • No question, and the article has already been deleted. KylieTastic (talk) 08:59, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

A Barnstar for you

The Minor Barnstar
For your minor edit in Draft:Zee Classic

and if you publish this page I will give you more barnstars Dr.Ji (talk) 12:15, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

  • And now I definitely wont accept - someone else will review in time. KylieTastic (talk) 12:41, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi, I don't know if this format is correct here, BUT

I am trying to add a picture that I took myself of the Vornado fan. It is a JPEG. Not sure what I did wrong, but I'll look into it. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Th78blue (talk • contribs)

Congratulations from WikiProject Articles for Creation!

The Bronze Wiki Award & The Teamwork Barnstar
Congratulations! You have earned The Bronze Wiki Award and The Teamwork Barnstar for getting the third-highest score and doing 50 re-reviews during the WikiProject Articles for creation July 2021 Backlog Drive. You reviewed an outstanding 1100 drafts in total. Thank you for your work to improve Wikipedia!
On behalf of WikiProject Articles for Creation, Enterprisey (talk!) 00:17, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

Declining Draft:Satyam Gujja

I have been trying to submit this page for review multiple times but you are declining it. Please let me know why — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phtmarket (talk • contribs)

  • Phtmarket If you read the decline notice and comments rather than delete them you would know. All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). KylieTastic (talk) 12:30, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

Before you let loose your words please visit the page and check if I had really removed your comments. I have added multiple independent reference sites and the subject is definitely worth the notability from India.

Please check the references once. I definitely feel that this article is being declined on purpose

  • Phtmarket as requested I have checked the references and removed those not about the subject. Your correct we always decline for a purpose - in this case because it does not Wikipedia:Notability (people) - you have one source that just mentions them in passing. Having your name printed under a photo is not notable! KylieTastic (talk) 12:46, 5 September 2021 (UTC).

Excuse me!! All the references I have added regarding the subject are published in Telugu a language spoken in South of India.How did you even check if the name is present??

  • Phtmarket you realise we can see the history of the article and your edit history? You added the Telugu 'sources' after you posted this and none of them are about the subject. Chrome can auto translate or you can use https://translate.google.com KylieTastic (talk) 13:10, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

Kylie,do you realise you deleted some telugu sources earlier — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phtmarket (talk • contribs)

And for your kind information the subject's name is a noun in Telugu language and google will definitely translate it to the meaning of the noun. Accusing that none of the sources are about the subject is not right.

  • The first and second sources was about "senior Congress leader V Hanumantrao", the third was about R. Krishnaiah. KylieTastic (talk) 13:46, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

Need help to edit wikipedia about 'Pawandeep Rajan'

Hi,

The wiki page about 'Pawandeep Rajan' (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pawandeep_Rajan) is semi-protected. How do I edit it? I recently created an account on wikipedia. Please let me know the steps. Thank you so much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vpaul001 (talk • contribs)

  • Hi Vpaul001 articles that have been semi-protected can't be edited by new users, however when you select "view source" you will see a "Submit an edit request" blue button that allows you to request edits on the talk page. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 18:34, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

AfC newbie guidance

Hi Kylie, I am brand new to AfC (approved today!) and have completed about a dozen reviews, all declines and one accept. Would you mind sometime over the few days checking behind me to see if I missed anything obvious? I appreciate any guidance you (and any others passing by) can offer. I do plan to make use of the AfC talk page but figured I would keep it simple first by reaching out to one of the pros. S0091 (talk) 20:56, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

  • Hey S0091, you may be new to AfC but your a seasoned enough editor and I see your in the accidental block club as well! I did check a few and saw no issues and patrolled one accept, I see you let users know the outcome and leave extra comments to explain/help so looks good. Unfortunately I'm time limited at the moment to do more. If you desire more feedback then maybe consider asking for some at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation. The only thing I would say is you haven't much experience at AfD and judging what will pass a challenge in the key to AfC, so it may be worth just picking a few random ones to join in and follow to see what reality vs 'policy' looks like. However I cant really talk, it's permanently on my todo list to do more. Cheers and thanks for helping out at AfC KylieTastic (talk) 21:25, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
    • Thanks for taking the time, Kylie! I agree with your comment about my AfD participation. I do follow them here and there but, like you, its something on the list. I will certainly take advantage of the AfC talk page and its really one of the reasons I felt somewhat comfortable requesting to be a reviewer. From what I have seen there, it is generally active and constructive. Thanks again. S0091 (talk) 21:51, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Request on 17:30:15, 10 September 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Fortibus2021


I would like to restore the deleted page for "Jose "Tam-an" Tomas, Sr. since I own the copyright to the material. As the owner, I have already deleted the article at <<https://www.globgov.com/PH/Bayombong/269585643727170/Vice-Governor-Jose-%22Tam-an%22-Tomas%2C-Sr>> which is no longer accessible thereat, having been an article entirely lifted from the Facebook page of the same person which I manage as the administrator. As such, I would like to request to have the Wikipedia page for the same person restored.

Fortibus2021 (talk) 17:30, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Carlos Hank González Jr.

Hi KylieTastic, thank you so much for checking out my draft. As you indicated, adjust the references using serious public and media data or as mentioned in the reliable sources article. This profile already exists in Spanish and I consider it important that it also works in English. Can you tell me how you see it now? Thank you very much for your help. Diegordeto (talk) 06:08, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Diegordeto to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. Also I am currently not very active on Wikipedia and even less as a reviewer. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 10:00, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Joseph Spinel

Dear KylieTasctic, The page "Joseph Spinel" is already up, but when I search for Spinel, only page about the gemstone "Spinel" comes up. Could you please help me and put in a note with "other meanings"? It's too complicated for me, I can't do it. Thanks! Sincerely, Lubomudr58 (talk) 11:34, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Super! Thanks!!! Lubomudr58 (talk) 09:16, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

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Learning

I am 13 and want to learn to edit Razaisthecool (talk) 14:35, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

draft rejection

hey KylieTastic.

i saw you rejected the Dr. Mahra lutfi wikipedia draft, one of the main reasons you told me that it was PR. but She is really one of the few successful woman under 30 in UAE. as you may know in UAE, woman are not treated equal as men. as one of the few women who have accomplished so much under 30, I think she deserves a page on wikipedia. hopefully one day we will have equal rights for woman and man in UAE or any other country.

PS: there are many more articles written on her in Arabic and other languages. can i use them as reference as well? --Influencerfanatic (talk) 09:30, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Influencerfanatic yes I am aware of the equality issues women in many countries face and the challenges that women in UAE face. However all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). PR can be written about a subject that truly is notable but also much is written by those that are not. If she really has "accomplished so much under 30" then hopefully non PR sources exist. Yes, while online English sources are preferred non English sources and sources not-online are valid. Hope that helps. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 09:49, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
  • Thanks mate. hopefully Brazilian vouge and about a dozen more articles would be enough, but one thing that confuses me essentially every news article may potentially be PR, how do you differentiate them? --Influencerfanatic (talk) 10:29, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
    • Hi Influencerfanatic yes there is no absolute way to detect all PR, but the stuff released on PR website or labelled as PR is obviously easy. Other than that you have to go my source reputation and wording. KylieTastic (talk) 11:51, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
  • Thanks very Helpful will try to check these when I want to confirm sources. --Influencerfanatic (talk) 13:56, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter September 2021

New Page Review queue September 2021

Hello KylieTastic,

Please join this discussion - there is increase in the abuse of Wikipedia and its processes by POV pushers, Paid Editors, and by holders of various user rights including Autopatrolled. Even our review systems themselves at AfC and NPR have been infiltrated. The good news is that detection is improving, but the downside is that it creates the need for a huge clean up - which of course adds to backlogs.

Copyright violations are also a serious issue. Most non-regular contributors do not understand why, and most of our Reviewers are not experts on copyright law - and can't be expected to be, but there is excellent, easy-to-follow advice on COPYVIO detection here.

At the time of the last newsletter (#25, December 2020) the backlog was only just over 2,000 articles. New Page Review is an official system. It's the only firewall against the inclusion of new, improper pages.

There are currently 706 New Page Reviewers plus a further 1,080 admins, but as much as nearly 90% of the patrolling is still being done by around only the 20 or so most regular patrollers.

If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process or its software.

Various awards are due to be allocated by the end of the year and barnstars are overdue. If you would like to manage this, please let us know. Indeed, if you are interested in coordinating NPR, it does not involve much time and the tasks are described here.

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Thanks

Thanks for the "Filled in 25 bare reference(s) with reFill 2". Looks great. Any tips to get the submission approved? I see that you're quite high-up in the Wikipedia world. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.122.119.213 (talk • contribs)

  • They key is to concentrate on showing notability (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Regards KylieTastic (talk) 08:22, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Wiki Video Training

Hello,

Wondering if you can provide video training on how to publish articles correctly on wikipedia?

Please advise.

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by GreenFrogs21 (talk • contribs)

Ravi Gargar

From last 2 months I am trying to publish my profile on Wikipedia but still is in draft why so it ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.22.93.78 (talk • contribs)

  • Hi, I am assuming you are talking about Draft:Ravi_Gargar. It was last declined 17 July 2021 and there has been no improvements and no resubmission since. All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). It current has a single piece of PR as a source - and PR is not an independent reliable source. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 14:18, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Regarding draft rejection of Selfie Mummy Googl Daddy

Hi KylieTastic,

I see that you have rejected draft on the movie Selfie Mummy Googl Daddy. I am a new contributer and I might me missing something here, please let me know why the article is being rejected.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Askamist (talk • contribs)

  • Hi Askamist firstly it was not rejected just just declined as it did not show that the film was notable per our guidelines. See Wikipedia:Notability (films). Most is unsourced including the lead section. Also it contradicts itself as the lead says it is an "upcoming" film, but then it says it was released in 2020? So it may of may not be notable but we require the sources to show that it meets Wikipedia:Notability (films). Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 11:34, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Thank You for Your Contributions

Hi! Thanks for the contribution on Mario Cerrito III page I created. I appreciate that. He is a gentleman who lives in my town and I first found out about him when I watched his home on Travel Channel Ghost Nation. I then found out he’s a successful independent producer and I started following his work. I couldn’t believe he didn’t have a wiki page- how do we get the draft into an actual article? I’m still new to wiki. Thank you very much — Preceding unsigned comment added by SouthJerseyResident (talk • contribs)

  • Hi SouthJerseyResident happy to help. Draft:Mario Cerrito III is currently submitted for review so it's just a case of waiting for a reviewer to get around to it. I haven't reviewed it but a tool I use has flagged the use of Goodreads which is "considered generally unreliable" (See WP:RSPSOURCES) so I would see if you can replace that source with one that is not "user-generated content". Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 20:39, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your advice

Hi

I represent BAUN in the UK which is a partner organization to BAUS which has an existing Wikipedia page. BAUS represents urological surgeons while BAUN represents urological nurses. We are a large organisation with 800 members and a Wikipedia presence is long overdue. Please consider my resubmitted revision for publication.

Best wishes

THEHILLSANGEL (talk) 11:03, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Thank you I have read each of those now. This is a charitable organisation so there is no remunerative implication for the article. Equally I have avoided qualitative terms as much as possible and stuck to factual evidence. Thanks again for your support. THEHILLSANGEL (talk) 14:40, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Can I publish something completely new?

Hello!!! My article about the Anastasopoulos' Paradox has declined again. I know that my references are not valid encyclopedic sources but my article is something comletely new, is come out of my head. So it can't have exactly its own sources and footnotes. It hasen't been to publish before. Is a new scientific paradox about infinity and gravity. Thank you if you read this. ChemCost.An (talk) 00:56, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

You changed a link from www.dhaka.gov.bd to www.http.com

In this edit you changed a link from www.dhaka.gov.bd to www.http.com. http.com is calacom.com. I have restored the original URL.-- Toddy1 (talk) 21:10, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

  • Hey Toddy1 thanks for the catch - the refill tool is generally very good but does these odd mistakes now and then and I missed that one. I haven't seen anything like that before and looking at it cant understand how it did that, I'll add it too my mental list of issues to check for :/ Thanks again. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 21:42, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

junk afcs

For drafts like Draft:Dog Isuggest it might be more useful to simply nominate them for speedy as test pages, which takes care of them right away. DGG ( talk ) 04:51, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

  • Hey DGG, I deliberately try to use extreme WP:AGF with new users first edits that are not actual vandalism as I have seen (rarely) people start with a few junk test edits and then start constructive editing. As they had not made any other edits I left it to not bite back and see what they did next. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 18:24, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Juanito (footballer, born 2003)

Hi – you quite rightly declined this draft twice a few days ago... this entire article is complete fiction, clearly some kid living out the fantasy in his head of being the world's greatest football player. But Wikipedia isn't the place to be hosting this kind of fantasy, even in draftspace... do you think it should it be put up for G3 speedy deletion? Richard3120 (talk) 14:08, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

  • Hey Richard3120, I hadn't really paid attention to the details before but yes it's now clearly a fantasy. However not a "teenager in Colombia" as your AfC comment says as the IP is Australian, so a young Colombian in Australia. I have tagged as G3. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 18:30, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

Famigo

Hi Kylie, I hope you are well. I did an edit for Famigo to update information on company status, business, logo and location. These updates are legitimate and included publications and current web www.famigo.com to confirm business and business. We are also trademarked. Please let us know if we can reverse the recent changes reflecting updates. Thank you so much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bossming (talk • contribs)

  • Hi Bossming Famigo is about the company started in 2009, just because a new company has taken over famigo.com does not mean that the article is blanked and replaced. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia so historical information is not just removed. You can create and submit a new draft with another subject such as Draft:Famigo (digital content marketplace) or just Draft:Famigo and if accepted the reviewers will determine if it should be the primary article at Famigo. Also note that your article was inconsistent with such as "In 2017, FAMIGO was co-founded" then the infobox saying founded 2021. However as all the sources are just about the launch 2 days ago this is not likely to be considered notable at this time. Lastly you use the "we" twice that suggests you are editing with a Wikipedia:Conflict of interest so please read that policy before editing more on the topic. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 19:01, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
  • Hi KylieTastic, I understand the historical point. thank you for your suggestion. I just submitted for review an article for Famigo. Take care. Best, Ming Bossming

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm ColinBear. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, YuTU, and have marked it as unreviewed. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

(Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

ColinBear (talk - contributions) 21:21, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

  • ColinBear why un-review a redirect page to draft that is R2 tagged for deletion? That makes no sense to me at all! KylieTastic (talk) 21:26, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
    I un-reviewed the page because it was tagged as R2, Sorry. ColinBear (talk - contributions) 21:30, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

draft prakash Bikalpa

please response soon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Prakash_Bikalpa

  • Sorry but to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. KylieTastic (talk) 09:16, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

I request you with respect. I totally agree with your decision because you took responsibilities
this article take long time,Jaintnp (talk) 09:45, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Thank You for your help Terri Ellis Jacobs 01:25, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

Request on 18:26:13, 26 September 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Pranjal Shrestha


Hello, could you please assist why my article was declined?

Pranjal Shrestha (talk) 18:26, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Pranjal Shrestha all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). You have three sources, one is the subjects own site so not independent and one is a basic listing. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 18:33, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

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USA Business Declined while you live in UK.

You have declined a business article on the basis of references. Do you really think you know about the USA businesses systems ? About Our sources:
1. The Dun & Bradstreet Corporation is an American company that provides commercial data, analytics, and insights for businesses.Bank also give loan and other financial decisions with the help of dnb data.
2. OpenCorporates is a website that shares data on corporations under the copyleft Open Database License. and you think its is not reliable, wow what a knowledge you must be having but pretend to be mr. know at all.
3. Buzzfile is also advanced business databases.
Final words, stop messing with things that you do not understand and stop pretending that you know all things while having few useless badges on profiles which will terminate some day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mosheh Levi (talk • contribs)

KylieTastic You want to say, dnb is not notable source, also all companies which make financial decisions on the basis of dnb report are wasting their money. My question was simply, do you really know how companies works in USA ? Dear KylieTastic Hopefully you will stop messing with USA business profiling and not give fake excuse by pretending that you know all things, after reading this wikipedia article. Dun & Bradstreet

  • Mosheh Levi try reading what is written rather than just asserting people have said or thought things you just imagined. I did not say that Dun & Bradstreet was not a notable source, I said it, along with the other references, are just basic listings of a companies existence. If you had read the Wikipedia notability guidelines before writing your article, or from the links on the decline notices on the article and your talk page, or when I linked above you would understand Wikipedia requires more than just the existence of a company and basic listings for an article to be accepted. Wikipedia also requires verifiable reliable sources, not that individual editors/reviewers/readers have personal knowledge. However, I am actually aware of Dun & Bradstreet etc, as many/most US reviewers are aware of Companies House - neither is rocket-science to understand and neither helps with the notability of a company. No place have I ever or would ever express that I "know all things", in fact all that I know is that I know very very little that can be known. I'm really not sure what the point of your statements were above, but if you want a second opinion(s) there are links on the decline notice to the AfC HelpDesk and live IRC help, or you can ask at the Wikipedia:Teahouse (for new editors) or the Wikipedia:Help desk. KylieTastic (talk) 19:52, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

Listen,KylieTastic, first you declined by saying all sources are not notable, now you are saying dnb is notable. please at least stand by your words. do you know according to Wikipedia:Notability one source is enough to be listed, and I wished you would have read this instead of giving lecture to others. and why I need to contact someone else ? it will be you who will be cleaning the mess you created.

  • Again just making things up: I did not say "all sources are not notable", and yes Dun & Bradstreet is notable hence they have an article. But the minimal profile they have listed, that I assume was just submitted via this by yourselves adds nothing to the notability of Draft:J Dot Media, Inc.. Yes in some cases one source is enough, but rarely. Things such as an accepted species of plant backed by a Plants of the World Online reference, but those sources usually contain other sources so are actually more than one. I have read Wikipedia:Notability and Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) many times as I have been doing this for over 8 years... try reading the "in a nutshell" sections. Also see that another editor has added a comment pointing out the same as I have said. KylieTastic (talk) 08:12, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

KylieTastic You are trying to defend thing that you really dnt know. the title of my question was simple and you made it very complicated. About your authors, I know how these fake ranking system and monopoly of authors work for blackmailing people and then you people ask for money in the name of services. About your example, you are giving me a botany example while I am talking about legal business in USA. means you are comparing to incomparable things, this means how incompetent you are with no very little knowledge.

  • Almost all editors detest paid editing as an insult to the free open nature of Wikipedia and the time we freely volunteer, but in your case your safe as you could not pay any amount to make your company seem notable enough to not get deleted. If anyone offers to get you your desired Wikipedia article for money - do refuse and laugh in there face. As for the botany example is was just an example of when one source is valid, as there is no example of any company that that one source is enough. KylieTastic (talk) 19:49, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
  • Mosheh Levi, this is uncalled for and unnecessary. As a member of this community and a fellow Wikipedia editor of both yourself and Kylie I urge you to not make comments like this. Kylie does a wonderful thing for Wikipedia by reviewing these articles to ensure the best possible information is there for readers but Kylie has to follow policy just like everyone else does and I, for one, am appreciative of their efforts. Please refrain from making personally disparaging remarks about another editor and focus on trying to work with others to see if, indeed, there is a solution forward. Making disparaging remarks breaks down our collaborative effort. Thank you. --ARoseWolf 20:04, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
Draft Rejected, then deleted, and creating editor indefinitely blocked for threatening legal action. David notMD (talk) 12:57, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

Regarding publishing the Draft: Oh My Messy Mind

I have sourced and added reference for almost everything on the page and now i'm certain it is ready to be published. Please look into it! Thank you! HimuTheEditor (talk) 11:40, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

  • HimuTheEditor to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. KylieTastic (talk) 09:27, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

About the Draft: In-XITU

Hello. I've noticed the report in the WP:UAA about a user named In-Xitu, and I slapped two tags on the draft to be speedily deleted. Thanks. User:Ahthga YramTalk with me!See candidates for new name 11:08, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

Lesbian Island Article

Hello Kylie The Article is not promotion Explain please why do you think it is a promotion? which part is a promotion? I have added a lot of reliable sources — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cynthiasteel (talk • contribs) 13:23, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

  • Cynthiasteel the sources are mostly pure PR, looks like a selection from https://lesbian.is/press/. The extra sources are things like the app download page, a two page advert on academia.edu, etc. - Nothing independent. You are also in violation of your previous block when you first created this as User:CynthiaSteele - a block is for a person not an account. Finally you also did not declare your Conflict of interest per WP:DISCLOSE. I wish you well for your app but Wikipedia is not for promotion of your app, use social media for that. KylieTastic (talk) 13:40, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

Hello KylieTastic I am not cynthiasteele but Cynthiasteel So you admit that you delete the article for personal reason I know Jimmy Wales well and he is my friend on Twitter I will be happy to tell him about you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cynthiasteel (talk • contribs) 13:45, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

  • Cynthiasteel no I did not delete for any "personal reason" how you got that from above I don't understand? I rejected and then flagged for deletion as it is just an advert with no independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). KylieTastic (talk) 13:50, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

editing

respected . its a humble request to you kindly help me to edit a topic on this platform سردارعامر (talk) 20:05, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

respected sir its reliable even i have the judgement of supreme court of AJK it in English i want to send you kindly share me you email or my email address is sardar.amerkhan@outlook.com i will forward you the said copy for your kind knowledge سردارعامر (talk) 23:21, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

  • Hello سردارعامر sorry but people sending things by email is not a valid source as it is not verifiable by others (See WP:V). However as I said above English Wikipedia generally uses the commonly accepted name (See Wikipedia:COMMONNAME). I can only find 2 uses of "chotta gala lake" via google, which is odd if this case went to the supreme court. If no one is using a name it makes no sense to use it in an article as no one would link the name and the subject. Looking at official sites (.gov.pk) multiple refer to "Banjosa Lake": [55] [56] etc. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 08:31, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

Publish

Hi! Can you publish this article User:Icreatearticle/sandbox Icreatearticle (talk) 15:31, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

This is a blatant User:HARSH VARDHAN SHARMA "TARA" sock trying to create an article which has been salted because of the number of socks used to try and create this artilce - Arjayay (talk) 15:36, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

Reversion

Hi ,

I updated a page on ECA and it was reverted. Electrical Contractors Association

Why?

thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by ECALive (talk • contribs) 12:06, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

  • ECALive as the notice I put on your talk page says please read Wikipedia:Conflict of interest before editing - also note WP:DISCLOSE. Also much of the update was either unsourced or just back by primary sources (your own website). Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not your organisations website or social media. Also the content was written as non-neutral, which is why we very strongly discourage all WP:COI editing as subjects can rarely write neutral well sourced content. Sources should be independent (see: WP:INDY) and reliable (see: WP:RS). KylieTastic (talk) 12:15, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

Draft:George Cervantes

Hello, I have added a new citaton for the page that I created. Can you please check to see if that works.

Thank you, Marco — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marcorubiocali (talk • contribs)

  • Hi Marcorubiocali you have not added any new citations since the last review. Although I get no response from spotoncalifornia.com, and veterinarian.news one is just a passing mention. It needs more to show notability. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 14:32, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for getting back to me. I just added a few more. I hope that helps. Hello, I have added two more citations. I hope one of those will do the job. Thank you!

I dont undertand why you guys are not counting this as a news for him. His name is the headline of the news article. https://www.dailyherald.com/submitted/20210705/george-the-matchmaker-is-helping-the-animal-shelters-amp-you-should-too

Hello KylieTastic - Thank you for getting back to me. I was wnodering if you can re-edit the page and count The Daily Herald as a reliable source. Thank you! Hello, I have added a new citation to the page. Thank you!

  • Marcorubiocali news break is a terrible source and has been depreciated - see WP:RSPSOURCES. It just reads like PR, and no surprise the author is only listed as having this one piece. If he, as it states, is a "Famous model & matchmaker" then there should be other sources other than ones that revolve around this one story about him. As mnay of the 'sources' are very much PR, and this is your only editing this really is looking like you have an undisclosed Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. KylieTastic (talk) 21:28, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

Question regarding FAME Publish

Hi dear admin, I am very curious to know about the Draft:famepublish, why its being rejected every time. There is another magazine on Wikipedia with no active reference Indian Talent Magazine. Kindly approve it so that it can help more women talents in India. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4053:2d17:8842::de0a:8f10 (talk • contribs)

  • Hi 2409:4053:2d17:8842::de0a:8f10 firstly all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). So Draft:famepublish is only judged per current guidelines - the other stuff exists argument almost never helps, and is much more likely to just point out other articles that need to be deleted. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion for that, but note that for existing articles a WP:BEFORE check is required, where as at AfC it is the submitters responsibility to show notability. It was rejected as no there was no serious indication of notability. However as it stands: Ref-1 own website so not independent ; Ref-2 read more like PR, is short, and appears mostly to come from the subject; Ref-3 own content so not independent; Ref-4 own content so not independent; Ref-5 own content so not independent; Ref-6 own content so not independent; Ref-7 meaningless stat. Lastly it appears just to be another pay to self promote outlet "We charge only $25 to publish an article" and it's website looks like a joke with one article repeated 11 times on the front page that is apparently the lead story for "business", "entertainment", "lifestyle", "culture" and "sport". KylieTastic (talk) 22:03, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Draft:High Five (film)

First time I have collided with someone reviewing (oopsy). You got there first so I reverted mine from the draft and the editor's talk page. I think that should cover it but let me know if there is anything else I should do. Happy reviewing! :) S0091 (talk) 18:08, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

  • Hey S0091 first time your lucky! I've been hitting a couple of clashes a week recently, but yes that's all I do if second just revert both and carry on looking for the diamonds in the shite ;) Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 18:12, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

JMH aasaan moulana

may I know why you didn't approve this article he's a politician and a public figure with all his social media with blue tick you can also search for this and approve this article. Faisarmaan (talk) 13:57, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

  • Faisarmaan I didn't accept it as I didn't review it, I just did a couple of trivial edits to tidy up. Yes as a politician they are notable, but the second source does not appear to contain them, also there is not source for them being the son of J. M. Aaroon Rashid. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 14:04, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

yeah got it thank you I will add relevant sources. Faisarmaan (talk) 14:19, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

Regarding my article, Draft:2021 split in the Nepalese Communist Parties

Hi there! I created this article yesterday. It's based on a currently most noted topic of Nepal. Please help me publish it. I feel it worths publishile. Else, please react to the article. Both positive and negative review are welcomed. Well, User:Bada Kaji has already reviewed the page but gave no suggestions nor moved it to main space. I expect a response very soon! Regards!Unified star (talk) 02:58, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Unified star sorry but to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. Although in general it looks notable (without reading the sources) but I wonder if it's needed as is it not covered in the history sections of Communist Party of Nepal (Unified Socialist) and Communist Party of Nepal (Unified Marxist–Leninist)? I've not come across similar situations so I'm not sure what the likely consensus would be. I would suggest asking for input from people with an interest in the subject such as on those article talk pages, or maybe Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Nepal, or lastly a more general forum that an individuals talk page such as the Wikipedia:Teahouse. My feeling is it will be one of those split opinions with some thinking it's needed and others that it is already covered. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 11:14, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

@KylieTastic, Great of you! Actually, today is just my second day on wiki and I am delighted to find you. Unified star (talk) 12:31, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

John Hall (Playwrite) page

Hello, You recently turned down the page I collated for John Hall (Playwrite) citing not enough checkable sources. John Hall died in 2001, but his widow is still alive and has all of the paperwork and documents about his life. He was a minor playwrite, but not insignificant. He worked for the BBC, moved in circles with Albert Finney and Peter O'Toole, and had them in his plays. As he died in 2001, and much of his archive was sold to an American university, there isn't much about him on the web (though you can buy his book and find photographs of his productions on the the V&A website). I have put in all the verifiable references I could find. The article is scrupulously true. What else can I do? If the article is deleted, the man is deleted from the web, and his fifty year career, disappears. Thanks if you can help. Skylar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SkylarWoodward (talk • contribs) 16:04, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi SkylarWoodward this is the trouble with Wikipedia as anyone can write content we do require sources for verification. Just earlier today I came across someone who had been writing well written hoaxes (articles now deleted and user blocked). However if you search I'm sure you can find some more sources, I just found one. Do note that reliable sources do not have to be online either if there are magazines/books/newspapers etc. Also if his papers are now in an American university collection that is worth adding, often the fact that a collection exists can still be sourced - is it this. So I would say add as many sources as you can and resubmit. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 16:23, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. I can't believe you found the American archive! I will try my best to add as many sources as I can and resubmit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SkylarWoodward (talk • contribs) 16:35, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

on Ali Naderi Article

Hi Dear Kylie

First and foremost, I thank you for the time you took and your valuable review.

However, I have to note that the subject of the article, namely "Ali Naderi", is now appointed as the head of the IRNA news agency which is the official news agency of Iran.

It is a significant development in the Middle East region and worthy for many people in the region and the world to know about the person and his career.

Naderi is also among the top political figures of a certain political group in Iran, and he may some time in the future be elevated to a more senior job in the government or reversely becomes the subject of political ramifications based both on his performance or any change in the political environment and it is worth to have a record of him for the future.

Secondly, if we prevent the world community from knowing figures with influence on the information flow in Iran and the region, I think such decisions are on the contrary with the noble cause of the free flow of information that Wikipedia is among its flag-bearers.

Finally, I kindly ask you to re-review the article with a view to what I tried to illustrate here. Best regards, Ali — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ali.Alimardani61 (talk • contribs) 05:43, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Ali.Alimardani61 all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). If what you say above is true then there should exist an extra source or two to show their notability. Also note that there are a number of statements made in the article without sources. See if you can find sources to address these issues add and resubmit. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 08:56, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Liberal Pride

Hi there,

Would you be able to assist me in highlighting what lines need citations for the liberal pride page? I was only able to find 2 sources from notable institutions. Jadamondo (talk) 00:06, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Jadamondo all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Look to see if you can find any such sources to show notability, but also note that most of the content is unsourced with both sources given applied to just a single statement. As for "what lines need citations", the answer is most - either the information came from a source or you have an undeclared WP:COI (See WP:DISCLOSE). However if as you say there are only those 2 sources then it may just be a case of WP:TOOSOON. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 10:27, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

Might be too soon, there is only the 2 sources from the age that would fit into those categories of RS. Would you agree with that? Jadamondo (talk) 02:38, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Jadamondo sounds likely - but there is no rush and you can come back and add sources later if/when they become available. All that is required to keep a draft alive is an edit every 6 months, and even then if deleted it's easy to get 'refunded'. There are some editors with thousands of drafts being worked on for over periods of years. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 18:22, 13 October 2021 (UTC)


Night Slashers X

hello, i have a bit of a problem, I discovered the game at the cited Ancient electronics article in 2019, & have been following the progress of this fangame since then.

the only reliable sources for it, them, are the project pages, that i found thanks to some youtube videos, & a mugen forum. there are also the project pages at chronocrash, but that would seem more like a promotion if it is cited directly

there is a lot of confusion about the versions out there & i have documented the ones that i have found to be mostly complete, & not just partial demos.

the project is interesting , & i would like to have it documented in wikipedia kind of like AM2R, it is always nice to see fan projects that enhance or re-interpret originals.

I don't know what else to use a citations or sources, since the creators of the games don't seem to have interviews or articles anywhere. Also , wikipedia is kind of hard to use when it comes to try and adding content — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.181.133.90 (talk • contribs)

  • Hi 189.181.133.90 all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). From what you have said it does not sound like sources exist to show notability. This is why the founder of Wikipedia also created fandom.com for subjects with fans rather than more general notability. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 20:55, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Niraj_Pandey: Post declnied

I have created a page about Niraj Pandey who is NSUI Chhattisgarh State President in India. I have also added many newspapers articles as references. Not sure my article is not approved.

Can you please let me know what information or artifacts you are looking for?

Thanks, Ram — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rampravesh75 (talk • contribs) 19:41, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

Submission declined on 13 October 2021 by KylieTastic:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Niraj_Pandey

Hi Kylei,

I can see that you have declined my page creation. I want to update that this page is created for Niraj Pandey and I have provided reference from multiple local newspaper. Please relook into this and verify the fact. Please let me know if you need any more information or artifacts for the approval of my post.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Niraj_Pandey

Submission declined on 13 October 2021 by KylieTastic


Thanks & Regards, Ram — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rampravesh75 (talk • contribs) 20:06, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Rampravesh75 I declined when it had no references at all. I see some have been added and it has been re-submitted, however to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 20:58, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

Sohail Ahmed (former Islamist)

I see that the draft creator has moved this to main space, bypassing afc, should it be moved back or sent to AFD, do you think. Theroadislong (talk) 19:34, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Theroadislong I didn't actual look much at it as I don't care much for most WP:BLPs, I just checked it did not looks like a copy vio, attack page, yada yada yada... and did some basic tidy up. On one hand I don't see the notability as it appears to be the story of one person mostly if not completely from themselves (from the sources I looked at). However the story was picked up by a number of big sources, but personally it's just another nobody who got on the news. I doubt that the notability can be improved in draft so I would say either AfD if you agree this is affectively all primary and there is no saving caveat to WP:BIO to make this notable, or leave to a NPP to make the call. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 21:41, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

OK, I'll just leave it for NPP, I don't really need any more drama. Theroadislong (talk) 21:48, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

  • Theroadislong... yup I've had my yearly drama quota already and fed up with the same issues with nothing seeming to improve about here. I keep thinking I should quit... but then I would have to deal with all the real world issues :/ Damn I thought doing this for 8 years was mad, but your on 15! KylieTastic (talk) 22:04, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

Please help!

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Dear KylieTastic Can you please check out the new citations I have added to the page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:George_Cervantes Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marcorubiocali (talk • contribs) 20:41, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

  • At this point I can only think you have an undeclared WP:COI or your doing undeclared WP:PAID editing. I just looks like an attempt at promotion. Your clearly just hear for one purpose, just stop. KylieTastic (talk) 21:49, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

Absolutely not! Not promotion at ALL. Members of the Tea House told me that he needs to be in 3 different websites and that is clearly done. Why is that not being taking into consideration? Can you please explain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marcorubiocali (talk • contribs) 08:32, 15 October 2021 (UTC) He is featured on 4 different websites and 1 talks about him. They have his name as the title of the news story and talk about him in detail. The members of the Tea House said he neds to be on 3 different websites and that has been done. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marcorubiocali (talk • contribs) 08:36, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

If you had benn pointed to anything about three, it would have been WP:THREE that not say on three websites but "find the three that best meet WP:RS, WP:SIGCOV"
Just stop and don't come here asking again KylieTastic (talk) 09:48, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

I will continue to add citations until I get the account up and running. You have no right to tell me to stop creating a page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marcorubiocali (talk • contribs) 12:48, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Thomas Cooper, Church of England Clergyman and Writer on Witchcraft

Dear KylieTastic, I didn't expect attention so quickly! I thought I'd have ample time to add in references before anyone looked at the draft. Anyway, you were super-prompt, and I have of course added the necessary page references throughout, and will probably do further work to flesh out my account of Cooper's book. As I say in the piece, nobody has written anything about the work as a whole or tried to characterise it, Cooper is just quoted from by witchcraft historians. Best wishes, Roy Booth — Preceding unsigned comment added by DrRoyB (talk • contribs) 16:01, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi DrRoyB although full reviews can take a while several of us try to do a quick pass of new submissions to catch copyright violations, abuse, vandalism, promotion etc but also to be able to point out basics like being unsourced or under-sourced so users don;t have to wait weeks to be pointed to Help:Referencing for beginners etc. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 16:10, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Hi thanks for your support! Could you help me collect more references about the artist? Thank you! VijayWayne (talk) 14:37, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
  • Hi VijayWayne sorry but I have more then enough work with just other submissions let alone vandalism and working on articles of interest. However I have added some wikiproject templates to the article talk page to possible attract that interested in those subjects. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 16:15, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
You need this Barnstar. For your patience with Wiki Vandals Ivan Bruselas ☏ ¢ 😼 14:09, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

Question

Hi KylieTastic All the content of Wikipedia Commons is free to use in my user page? --Ivan (Px3nix -_-) ☏ ¢ 😼 15:36, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

Ok, Thanks KylieTastic --Ivan (Px3nix -_-) ☏ ¢ 😼 20:27, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

A cheeseburger for you!

Get a CheeseBurger from McDonalds and edit Wikipedia even more Partha Basak 12:40, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

Show Me The Money 10

Hello,

Please re-check my revisions for this Wikipedia article. All sources were directly from MNET's Youtube, Instagram, and Facebook pages.

Thank You. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Creydadj (talk • contribs)

  • Hi Creydadj sorry but to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 08:09, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

Request on 19:54:22, 20 October 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Djscamper


Hi! Thanks for taking the time to look at the Los Altos Mountain View Community Foundation's page. This is my first page addition. I do work for the Foundation and I have that in my profile.

I added news stories from Los Altos Town Crier. I also changed the text so that it does not match our website as much. Please let me know if there is anything else I can do. I tried adding our logo, but that does not seem to work.

Djscamper (talk) 19:54, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Djscamper thanks for disclosing your COI. Also thanks for improving the copyright violation but it is still very close see this with several sentences direct copies. Unfortunate I'm blocked from the new sources being from the UK (ex EU) - however they all appear to be from the same local source. All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS), and just a single local source with multiple posts is not likely to be enough. Note images must be uploaded WP:UPIMAGE (copyright allowing) you cannot hotlink to an image on the internet. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 20:06, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Abhishek A Rastogi

Dear KylieTastic Can you please check out the new citations and changes I have added to the draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Abhishek_A_Rastogi - Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paperpen2824 (talk • contribs) 06:48, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Paperpen2824 thanks you for adding additional sources and re-submitting. However to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 08:06, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Ashley Strohmier

I see that "This user is not an administrator and does not wish to be one" Timtrent still believes that the Ashley Strohmier article should not be created. However, I find all 31 sources present to be about as relevant as https://dbs.anumuseum.org.il/skn/en/c6/e174834/Place/Antwerp , which is revered more than https://worldpopulationreview.com/world-cities/antwerp-population . None of these are mentioned at Reliable Perennial sources. Please explain Sucker for All (talk) 19:57, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

Also, she literally works for News Corp is on 5 days a week, almost alway as a guest, and sometimes a host, for Fox & Friends First, a show viewed by on average between 500 and 800 thousand people Sucker for All (talk) 20:00, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
@Sucker for All Please do not misrepresent what I have said as believing that the article should not be created. User:Sucker for All/Ashley Strohmier does not contain 31 sources. Nor should it. It simply needs to comntain the right sourcing to allow it to pass scrutiny
What my status as an editor here has to do with the price of fish is strange FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 20:04, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

Ok! I have proposed 31 different sources (8 were present in the article). Very few of them are considered wiki pages. All are among the different secondary sources that mention her. She's a very notable figure and that's key for all to understand Sucker for All (talk) 08:28, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Sucker for All the way that Wikipedia works is subjects need to have sources that show they are notable based on the guidelines (in this case WP:BIO). What is not deemed notable is just being watched by a lot of people. Someone could be viewed by millions on TV, but if no one writes about them they are not notable as Wikipedia requires. KylieTastic (talk) 08:56, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
glamourpath, starsgab, factsbio, bio-peida, wealthyspy, chandigarhfirst, xycinews, biographyhoses, arealnews, informationflare, factualhub and yankeestv are just Among the sources that discuss her.. Could you point to example of other people who are viewed by Millions of people daily, who are explicitly *not notable* ? Sucker for All (talk) 13:40, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
  • Sucker for All sorry but most of those site names mean nothing to me but several look like wikis/user-generated content so not helpful. She is not "explicitly *not notable*", if several independent reliable sources have significant coverage then add them and resubmit. I know nothing about Ashley Strohmier, and but I know what Fox & Friends is so I would expect sources, unless she is new in which case just give it time. I can't think of any very similar cases at the moment, but we get lots of YouTubers and social media "celbs" with millions of subscribers who are not "notable" due to little interest outside of the platform/channel. KylieTastic (talk) 14:18, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
Several are wikis, most are not. Could you direct me into a spot where we could investigate these various sources? Sucker for All (talk) 14:23, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
Also, Could you point to example of other people who are viewed by Millions of people daily, who are explicitly *not notable* ? Sucker for All (talk) 14:25, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
  • Sucker for All there is no definitive list of definitive good sources and apart from what Wikipedia:Reliable sources defines WP:RSPSOURCES has a list of the discussed sources that have been deemed good or bad. There are millions of reliable sources, there are also vast amounts of bad sources. Generally if not listed look for issues such as user-generated, user-submitted (including all PR), paid promotion, and clearly biased sources. This has an overlap with non-independent sources but not always. I generally do not link essays but see WP:THREE as it is widely accepted as good advice. As for the second repeated question I have already answered. However I see from the F&F host list she is just a host, in which case there are so many people that have appeared once of a few times on popular shows that millions see, that does not make them notable. Also I note from her Twitter she only has 4,718 followers and mostly re-tweets so it looks like she maybe just chooses not to engage much outside of her job and thus be less likely to have things written about her. However if you want to have another go do look at WP:THREE. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 08:19, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
I think adweek, Columbia Missourian and the secondary nypost (or primary Fox News) would all be considered mainstream enough to qualify for WP:THREE in addition, of course, to Many sources that are not mentioned by wikipedia either way. I think making the case for her being notable is more difficult than noting that she is notable, given she's literally co-Hosting Fox and Friends First for the 2nd day in a row as I type Sucker for All (talk) 09:37, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Thank You for Your Contributions

Apple Pie

Dear KylieTasctic, even though it wasn't the nectarine pie like the previous times, I hope an apple pie thanks would mean a lot to you-Respectfully, User:SANCHO2398 15:49, 10 August 2021‎ (UTC)

Soumaila Coulibaly

Hello KylieTastic. Sorry about that, I'm not sure why the editor submitted the article for revision through AfC. Paul Vaurie (talk) 18:32, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

  • Hey Paul Vaurie Ah! Sorry I missed that - I didn't look at the history... it appears they were just submitting a number of other editors France related drafts. I gave up trying to understand some editors actions years ago - odd behaviour. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 18:40, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
    • @KylieTastic: Yeah, I agree. A little bit weird behavior. Anyways, happy editing! Best regards, Paul Vaurie (talk) 21:36, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Faberlic

Hello. I translated an article from the Russian Wikipedia. There is also this article in the Polish, Ukrainian and Turkish Wikipedia. In Russian it was more voluminous, so I translated it from there. Will there be time to take a look ? Thanks ! 37.230.234.79 (talk) 13:08, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi 37.230.234.79 the draft had not been submitted - I have done that for you (and in future you need to add {{subst:submit}} if there is not submit button on another template. However to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 13:12, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm MB. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Professor Syed Fazle Imam Rizvi, and have marked it as unreviewed. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

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MB 19:13, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

  • Oh joy another subpar article marked as created by me as a CSD took too long to action! :/ KylieTastic (talk) 19:30, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

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Request on 20:09:32, 26 October 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by RicardoRon21


RicardoRon21 (talk) 20:09, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks again very much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RicardoRon21 (talk • contribs) 20:13, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

  • RicardoRon21 you asked no question, and please stop submitting almost blank, unsourced articles. KylieTastic (talk) 08:53, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Deletion for Draft:Quackity-hq

Hello Kylie. I have found a draft under the name Quackity-hq. Please delete it because it is total nonsense.

Here is the page:Draft:Quackity-hq

Lilkitty200 (talk) 12:59, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Lilkitty200 yes it is junk but as it's "doing no harm" in draft I'm not sure an admin would delete it. It's possible a {{Db-g2}} would get it deleted but I could also see some admins saying there was a possibility someone was going to expand into a real article. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 18:03, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

clarification about significant coverage and evidence of it

Hi Kylie,

Thanks for the new review on .NET nanoFramework.

Regarding significant coverage, I get it that we are not at Arduino level but, may I point to these external mentions:

2 episodes on Channel 9 featuring the project

2 blog posts about the project on Microsoft Developer Blog

Highlight on .NET Foundation

Various articles in tech magazines and blogs

Mention in Wikipedia entry of project we are the continuation of (please see History, entry for 23 January 2017)

1 million downloads of NuGet packages https://www.nuget.org/profiles/nanoframework

If this doesn't show sufficient evidence of the growing relevance and interest of project, I'll just let it go.

Thanks! J.a.simoes (talk) 12:14, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

  • Hey J.a.simoes there are two issues that need to be considered the first is "notability" and as stated in my comment on the submission in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). The second issue is "verifiability" (see WP:V) which means content should be sourced which usually means independent sources for items that are not pure facts. In your case as the article is mostly just statements of facts I'm not so concerned about only a single primary source, but for notability a single primary source is not helpful. Things such as the number of downloads on NuGet help a bit, but in general popularity does not equal Wikipedia "notability". Personally I would accept for such a project but I'm biased as a software engineer - if we accepted popularity as notability then social media "influencers" who have millions of followers would be all notable, something I do not agree with. In general we require some notice outside of the "fanbase". The trouble with the channel9 and devblogs sources is they are not independent as Laurent Ellerbach is a key project contributor. However the sources in your "Various articles in tech magazines and blogs" are much more helpful and although 'blogs' in general are not reliable sources, in software they can definitely be... dependent on the authors. Although I am a .Net developer I'm not working in embedded systems and have not come across the nanoFramework so I cannot say if it is "notable" but I would say that sources like your "tech magazines and blogs" section are very helpful, and other sources even if not good directly for notability help tone down it just being an article of what the project says about itself. In summary it's about showing a topic is independently notable (and verifiable) and not just a project promoting itself, and although nuget download numbers down directly help, a million+ for an embedded systems framework indicates to me that this is hopefully notable, so please do add the independent sources (and any other reviews/articles you can find) and re-submit. I hope that helps, Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 20:10, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
  • Hi KylieTastic! Appreciate your explanations. Understood and those makes sense to me.

I've added the above mentioned links to the article (hopefully properly formatted and tidy up!) Being a .NET developer you'll have a perfect understanding on how all this works, which makes it easy to talk with you. To your point about the project being featured on Channel 9 and .NET blog: true that Laurent is project contributor, but both the IoT show and .NET blog have their editorial guidelines and policies. A project or a subject doesn't show there "just because". Rather it's because it fits their criteria on "worthiness". (I can tell you the bar it's quite high!). You would agree that one doesn't see "everything" on any of those... And yes, it's hard to get references and mentions outside the ecosystem and fan base, but... that's because, at the end of the day, this is a bit niche! Only developers with interest on the matter and companies working on embedded system or magazines covering these matters will pay any attention to it. So... Trust I'm getting there. Cheers :) ! J.a.simoes (talk) 11:30, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Fatma Said page submission

Hi, I was trying to create the English version of Fatma Said a soprano that already has pages in French, German, Arabic, and Masri, but has issues with submissions, you were reviewing its submission recently and I invite you to review it again

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatma_Saïd https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatma_Said — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexandria-egyp (talk • contribs) 09:34, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Alexandria-egyp having an article in other language Wikipedias does not mean a subject will automatically be acceptable as each language project have their own guidelines and policies. However I see that both articles do have a lot more content and sources so there is more to help you expand the draft. What we would be looking for is references that show they meet the Wikipedia:Notability (music) guidelines- note the criteria in WP:MUSICBIO. At first I thought see had but the Gramaphone award is not a Grammis or Grammy Award. I see nothing at the moment that indicates she meets one of the criteria on WP:MUSICBIO, so I recommend reviewing that and if she does add more references to show she does. Check the other language versions so more. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 10:14, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

Jazzsteppa: Submission Declined

Hey KylieTastic,

My name is Gal Moore. I was a co-founding member of Jazzsteppa; a live dubstep duo that was active between 2007 and 2013. We released numerous records on known dubstep record labels (HotFlush, Studio Rockers), got radio play on BBC1 & BBC6, press coverage in mainstream media (IDJ, MusicWeek, MIXMAG), and played stages at some of the UK's biggest festivals (Glastonbury, Big Chill & Shambala) as well as touring extensively in Europe, USA and India.

We were the first, and only outfit to merge dubstep with live instruments, and for that got acknowledgement from many other known artists that collaborated with us (i.e Borgore, Untold, Foreign Beggars).

I have a lot of references for everything written above - and was hoping you could explain what you would expect to see in our wikipedia article to establish significant coverage?

I look forward to hearing from you. Many thanks,

Gal — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gushgushoni (talk • contribs) 19:23, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Gushgushoni all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in this case we would start with Wikipedia:Notability (music) - see the criteria in WP:MUSICBIO. Otherwise if not meeting those criteria then we would use WP:GNG which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Also note that along with showing notability all claims should be sourced especially as you have a WP:COI. There is much unsourced content including the Discography as the only source is not reliable as discogs is user-generated. Hope that helps explain things KylieTastic (talk) 10:21, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

Hey KylieTastic

I've made some changes to the Wikipedia article; now including BBC radio play, touring globally, and collaborations the band had with very significant musical artists. Here are a few other good examples. https://www.worldmusic.co.uk/jazzsteppa https://www.thewildcity.com/artists/3409-jazzsteppa https://www.worldmusic.co.uk/jazzsteppa

I am far from a writer or wikipedia editor - so appreciate your help in guiding me how to use all the links/ content I've collected to get this approved. For example, I'm pretty sure we meet criteria 7 "Has become one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style or the most prominent of the local scene of a city; note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability." - as we were the only artist to merge Dubstep and swing music in London and Berlin - and still are the best known for this worldwide. You can see for example videos on youtube with hundreds of thousands of views.

You mention the link to Discogs for the discography. Where should the releases be linked to?

I look forward to hearing from you. thanks,

Gal

  • Hi Gushgushoni I just realised I did not answer. Generally having YouTube videos with lots of views is not deemed notable, but I would say it means more on music than say just entertainment YouTubers, but generally its not good for showing notability outside of a fanbase. Discogs is not deemed reliable (see WP:RSPSOURCES) as it is user generated, however yes it can be difficult to find good sources for some releases, but there is no single reliable source I am aware off. However I just googled and it was easy to find a review for "Hyper Nomads" and added. Reviews are best as they show more notability as well then simple listing. If criteria #7 applies then you would need a couple of good sources to show this where others have described them in some way as "prominent representatives of a notable style". You could try asking the Wikipedia:Teahouse to get feedback from a wider range of editors, or see the links on the decline notice for the AfC Help Desk or get live help. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 11:11, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

Chhota Gala Lake instead Banjosa Lake

Respected Sir hope fully your are enjoying your Good health and i wish. sir i want to bring your attention to the Naming issue of the as mention in subject field . sir in AJK state supreme court is the highest court we the native of village Chhota Gala claim that this lake is the boundaries of this village not in Banjosa . we take this issue to the court against the AJK Government . finally court issued the order that this Chhota Gala Lake and also order to government to make necessary changing . govt change the books of syllabus and i can send you as reference kindly sir now i want to change this on wikipedia kindly help me my email is sardar.amerkhan@outlook.com i can provide. every documented proof of the administration.of ajk thanks سردارعامر (talk) 14:31, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

2023 NCAA Division I Men's basektball tournamnet

Why Did you redirect the Article For. 98.186.54.177 (talk) 23:42, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

Draft:North West Sydney

I'm at a loss as to what to do next..

I understand you'd like to see more "authoritative" sources but what can I do? This term "North West Sydney" is in everyday usage. Just yesterday it was on the National news describing the location of a murder. A major soccer club has rebranded to "North West football club" The Police Force use it to describe a organisation structure.

Its a common place term — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vimiera (talk • contribs) 08:11, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Vimiera, official geographic areas are often deemed notable but a term such as "North West Sydney" I would expect to be in regular use without being necessarily a recognised area, but just a rough undesignated description. What is required is sources that show it is a recognised term for a recognised/defined place, not just a description in the form "'compass point' 'place'". Neither of the current sources even have the phrase "North West Sydney". So yes national news may say "North West Sydney" rather than just "Sydney" but that on it's own is just a descriptive term to more localise an area. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 21:07, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

Independent sources

Criteria for musicians and ensembles: > Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable). > G-Mafia, Islou Records waiting for explanations why did you decline Trixvel's page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trixvel (talk • contribs) 18:15, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

Great research ,👍

Was just reading the USA - UK relations page. It's a mammoth of information. Great job! 92.20.53.54 (talk) 23:14, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi! Glad you liked it however I have only done a minor edit - see here for the list of contributors. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 10:37, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

What is subvariety used for?

Hello, is subvariety used to classify plants geographically like variety? if so or not, please show me a well-explained example! thank you!

BloxyColaSweet (talk) 03:05, 17 November 2021 (UTC) !

  • Hi BloxyColaSweet although plants of a variety or subvariety would often be geographically limited I don't believe this is a defining feature more just by the physical nature of spread how it works out. Plants are classified by their descriptive features and should be identifiable from a sample without knowing where it was located (although in reality that is very helpful). Or at least that is my understanding. However it's not really my area so I would suggest asking at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Plants as we have a number of active editors that are knowledgable in the field. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 16:07, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
Hello, I want to ask who is in charge of Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Plants if you could tell me it would be helpful! thank you! BloxyColaSweet (talk) 22:46, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
Thanks! BloxyColaSweet (talk) 20:07, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Kenan Duru

Could you please be so kind to clarify the reason my contribution on Mr. Kenan Duru has been declined? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Larry S. Bird (talk • contribs) 16:24, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

  • Larry S. Bird do you think two non English words is a valid encyclopedic article? Not only is it in Turkish not English, and only two words it is also just an unsourced statement. All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS) - In this case see Wikipedia:Notability (people). KylieTastic (talk) 16:40, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Adam Bowers

Summitted independent sources, please review. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Freedominwriting (talk • contribs) 22:27, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

  • Freedominwriting to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. KylieTastic (talk) 11:51, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

I want to know more about you!

Hi KylieTastic, I am inspired by your work and contributions on Wikipedia. If you don't mind, can I ask you a few personal questions to know you better? - What's your real name? - What do you do as a day job? - Do experienced Wiki editors like you get paid? Wuuluuu (talk) 13:12, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Wuuluuu, like many editors I don't give out personal information like my name. However you can see on many editors main user page some information. For instance on mine I do say that I'm a programmer. Finally, no editors do not get paid, and neither do Administrators or Bureaucrats etc... we are all just volunteers. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 13:22, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

Avatar Zen

Hello Kylie,

I want to thank you for the review on my submission.

I noticed that my contributions lack independent sources, I happen to know that a newspaper article & website article about the artist in question will be online within two weeks from the Dutch newspaper De Gelderlander. That is a large newspaper from the east of the Netherlands, would that mean that the article is a reliable source on wikipedia?

Thank you in advance.

Andreas — Preceding unsigned comment added by AndreasDominicus (talk • contribs) 15:42, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

Request on 11:18:30, 27 November 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by RajendranMCV


Hello, Need help in the approval of Draft:MCV_Network. I'm actually new in wikipedia creation. Kindly help me with the requirements that are needed for the approval.

RajendranMCV (talk) 11:18, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi RajendranMCV all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). You current have the subjects website and YouTube channel - so not independent, and one other source with more of a passing mention. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 11:21, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Diploma in Building Surveying - submission

Hello I was just explaining why I have put forward a proposed page for the DipBS in Glasgow. I suggested I would do this on behalf of the former course students - the qualification is now no longer extant - but hundreds have the qualification from the 20 years of the course's operation. The DipBS which currently appears on Wiki leads you to a Diploma in Bible Studies - which has caused confusion in the past. It would be good to include a link to this qualification too... regards steven — Preceding unsigned comment added by SMRobb (talk • contribs)

Draft:Tom Neenan (writer / performer)

Hi KylieTastic,

Thanks for reviewing Draft:Tom Neenan (writer / performer) at 19:30, 27 November 2021 (UTC). This is my first 'created from scratch' page so I really appreciate your review - very useful for learning the rules. I think all the content has citations now so I infer that one or more of the references is considered not sufficiently reliable? I wonder, in order to help me rectify, would be so kind as to provide more clarity on precisely what part(s) are at issue?

Kind regards,
--Easleydp (talk) 12:31, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Easleydp all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS) in this case Wikipedia:Notability (people) would be used. Your first source is OK for verifiability but it lacks significant coverage; the second is just a listing for their podcast; the third does not even mention them; the forth is just a mention of a nomination, not a win and lacks significant coverage. So you have sources to verify the claims, but missing any sources to show they are 'notable', as Wikipedia defines it. Hope that makes sense. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 14:14, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

About the declining of my article/word.

Hi! My article on the creation of the word 'Codity' that I had submitted was declined just yesterday. I would appreciate it if I can find out the reason for it. I feel like it could become a proper known word & that it also makes a lot of sense. Hope to hear from you soon! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hima2468 (talk • contribs) 16:44, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

Declined AfC – or maybe not

Hi KylieTastic, I noticed you declined Draft:Shivangi Khedkar and for obvious reasons I entirely agree with that decision. What surprised me though is that there's no declined AfC template in the draft but only the message at the user's talk page. Is it possible AfC script ran into an edit conflict there? Tahrz made an edit to that draft in the same minute you posted the declined AfC message on their talkpage.. – NJD-DE (talk) 20:47, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

  • Hey Njd-de thanks for pointing that out. I've been having lots of website timeouts for that last hour but that is a new one on me! I didn't know it was possible for the script to fail the article post and still post on the user page. As Theroadislong has done the complete job I've removed the extra user page notice. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 21:00, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
I think Wikipedias servers were down for short periods earlier, this may have caused the problem? Theroadislong (talk) 21:02, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Request on 11:17:13, 30 November 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by DoveCreation


Hi KylieTastic,

Thanks for taking the time to review my article on Sally Coulthard. However it was rejected on the grounds of unreliable sources. Please could you let me know which sources you found unreliable and I'll try gather more reliable sources before resubmission.

Ty

DoveCreation (talk) 11:17, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi DoveCreation all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). As well obviously all other claims should be cited as well for general verifiability as well as those key sources to show notability. As such the first source headofzeus.com is a publishers author profile so not independent. The second webb-site.com is just a big list of names with no source and no indication is is actually the same person (although checking via the listed company you can tell it is link - but Companies House no longer gives full DOB now fully public). The third thetimes.co.uk is definitely an independent reliable source, but I cannot read as paywalled and I only have access to content 1785 through 2013, but as the subject is not her I assume it's probably just a sentence or two. The forth is her agent so not independent (but can be used for facts such as her Bibliography). Finally the fifth is written by the subject so again a primary source and not independent. So apart from the times that is probably not significant coverage the rest are not independent reliable sources so do not count for notability. If as her publisher and agent claim she is "a bestselling author" and "acclaimed author" hopefully independent reliable sources do exist. Hope that explains things, Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 14:08, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your review on 'Christopher Barnett' post

Hi KylieTastic,

Thanks for your review, I appreciate the feedback as I am new contributor. I have amended and added to the submission. Best wishes Hakkahaan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hakkahaan (talk • contribs) 22:04, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Changing Page Title

Hi,

We changed the page title of this page, but it looks like you reversed this change. Can you tell us why? Or inform us about how to change the title correct? As Formica is not a plastic product, but a wooden product the '(Plastic)'should be changed to '(Wood)' or deleted.

Formica (plastic) - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formica_(plastic) — Preceding unsigned comment added by NemhoWeert (talk • contribs) 14:03, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

  • NemhoWeert firstly you did not change the title of the page just the WP:DISPLAYTITLE, and I reverted because it is not wood. Although I agree the Formica (plastic) is misleading as it is not just a plastic but a composite, it is much less misleading than calling it wood! It would be called Formica it that topic did not already exist. Formica (composite material) would seem like a more accurate long title. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 15:06, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Agustin Zulueta

Greetings. References and links were added to beef up the confirmability. But it was again declined, but by an editor who says that he is unwell and so unavailable. Can I request that you someone else take a second look. I am an experienced wiki reader and have journalism experience. I think I am on very solid ground.

Regards, Mark — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarkWoldin (talk • contribs) 15:54, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Cymblz article

The article Cymblz was declined again stating that the subject was not mentioned in the sources however that is incorrect. The allmusic.com source clearly lists Joseph Adam as an engineer which is the legal name of Cymblz. Also, the grammy.com source is only to show the album Vintage Worship nominated for a Grammy, which if hyou can see from the credits on allmusic.com Joseph Adam or "Cymblz" is listed. Please look closer before denying. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ss7714 (talk • contribs) 19:55, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Ss7714 as the article did not make clear in the lead or infobox the real name it wasn't obvious their name was Joseph Adam which yes I did miss in the later text. Also being the "Mixing Assistant" for another artists work that was nominated is not notable. All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Being an mixing assistant on a single album than was just nominated for an award in non even close to demonstrating and notability. Also most of the claims are completely unsourced. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 20:30, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Technical Barnstar
Thank you for fixing my busted citation :) ManWithDominantClaw (talk) 11:22, 3 December 2021 (UTC)


Also I love how your Major Contributions section has a whole bunch of judges and politicians, and one lizard. I had a giggle at that. <3 ManWithDominantClaw (talk) 11:31, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Etymology of Punjab

This pending drafted short article should be made as Redirect to the page, Thanks2A00:23C5:8D98:E201:54E2:C150:BC78:2FA1 (talk) 17:52, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Etymology of Kashmir

Again this page has been amended and must also be a redirect to page Thankyou2A00:23C5:8D98:E201:54E2:C150:BC78:2FA1 (talk) 17:55, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Request on 18:01:09, 3 December 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Webpankaj


Briefn already has coverage in news why should it be deleted

https://www.amarujala.com/uttar-pradesh/mahoba/good-news-students-started-amazing-startup-read-how-they-will-distribute-employment-to-youth


Webpankaj (talk) 18:01, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Webpankaj as Draft:Briefn.in has already been deleted I can not see to comment apart from it was deleted as "(G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion". Wikipedia is an Encyclopedia for Encyclopedic articles not for promotion. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 18:05, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Cervantes spam

I added a couple of SPAs to your latest SPI. Thank you for spotting the earlier ones. Cervantes probably thinks he needs an article to compete with Patti Stanger and I do wonder why she has an article. I may look at that at some point FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 16:27, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Hey Timtrent yes when I saw this on Draft:Celebrity Matchmakers, I thought the same thing. However I generally stay away from all 'celebrity' stuff as I have issues with any being of encyclopedic value. I would guess that Patti Stanger would be just as non-notable if she hadn't been lead cast on The Millionaire Matchmaker for many years. It may be junk TV, but it is TV rather than promoting a local animal shelter and calling yourself famous on every spam site that lets you self promote. I don't think I'll ever understand people :/ KylieTastic (talk) 17:13, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
    Nor I. Even if I were ever famous I would not wish to have an article on me here.
    I wonder if it's all to do with nervousness about one's gentleman's area? FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 17:19, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
Thanks! LoganBierbowerYT (talk) 11:19, 6 December 2021 (UTC)


Malama

Dear KylieTastic, You left me a note today asking why I removed today an article 'Malama'. I actually did not. In fact, my secretary, at my direction, tried to post an English version of the well-developed Russian version of this article. To my surprise, it was immediately removed by Sumanuil. After getting your note, I see that my secretary revised the article to some extent and attempted to post it again. Then it was removed by you. I would appreciate you kindly indicating what has to be done for article to stay in place. Warm regards, Michael Malama — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rdr. Michael (talk • contribs) 13:13, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Rdr. Michael firstly before getting onto the topic of the article due to what you have said I have to point out two policies that may differ from the Russian language Wikipedia. Firstly the Wikipedia:Username policy states "a user account should be used only by one person" it should not be shared with a secretary. Secondly as this appears to be related to yourself you should be aware of the Wikipedia:Conflict of interest policy which also applies to your secretary as she is editing under direction. As for the article the reason for the reverts was because the Malama article exists, even if just a disambiguation page, so can not just be topic changed for your own. This is an Article hijack and is not acceptable. If a new topic is deemed to be the primary for an article title the existing one would be moved to preserve the content and history. As you and your secretary have a conflict of interest the correct place to submit the article would be via Wikipedia:Articles for creation this means it is reviewed and any policy issues can be dealt with with less risk of deletion. If the article was created directly under a different title such as Malama (noble family) someone could flag for deletion if it does not show notability. Having a quick look at the translation I would guess the topic is notable by our policies (WP:N) but it lacks the required referencing. However as I see the source article does have a lot more references these just need to be added - See Help:Referencing for beginners, but basically the <ref>...</ref> tags and contents can be used as on the Russian version just with any required translation. Note if/when created the article link would be added to the Malama disambiguation page. Another reason to submit via Wikipedia:Articles for creation is so that the errors such as images and categories can be fixed first. I hope that explains things. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 15:31, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
    • I really appreciate your kind answer. One thing, though: I fail to see an article 'Malama' in the English Wiki. There are articles for persons with that last name, but they also include their first names (same thing in the Russian Wiki). So, it appears that title 'Malama' is not occupied?.. Best! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rdr. Michael (talk • contribs) 18:43, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Hi Rdr. Michael Malama is currently what is called a disambiguation page (see WP:DPAGES) and is used to help people searching for "Malama" when maybe they are not sure what article they want. If there is a clear primary topic that most people are looking for then that would usually take the article name - for instance Star is clearly a primary term so all the other uses are on Star (disambiguation). However if no clear primary topic exist such as Eagle's Nest then that key name is left as a disambiguation page for people to locate which meaning they want. In this case none of the articles have high page views (but some would argue for a serving senator), but also I doubt the Malama noble family would get enough to be primary. However if it did then at anytime later Malama would be moved to Malama (disambiguation) (and all links etc updated) and then the new article moved to the title Malama. If you submit the article with references to Wikipedia:Articles for creation if/when accepted it would be decided at the time if acceptance what to have as the article name and do any moves as required, or if later you wanted to suggest that your article was moved to just Malama and the current page moved to Malama (disambiguation) then it could be requested at Wikipedia:Requested moves where either they will just agree of a discussion would be started. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 19:51, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Styx (butterfly)

On 7 December 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Styx (butterfly), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Styx's name derives from its seeming to have "come from the underworld"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Styx (butterfly). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Styx (butterfly)), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:03, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Hook update
Your hook reached 5,073 views (422.8 per hour), making it one of the most viewed hooks of December 2021 – nice work!

theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/she?) 01:13, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Oops I seem to have stood on your toes

I saw on Twitter that Trudi Thomson was in a long queue and I was going to just move her to main space and tidy what looks like a nice article. Victuallers (talk) 21:36, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Hey Victuallers no worries - we get a lot of conflicts at AfC - but all the matters is getting any notable articles out to main-space. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 21:43, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
I deeply apologize about the Lofafis thing, but I do believe this award is a great fit for you. Bc420bc (talk) 08:00, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

Award

SCP Award
Given for extreme efficiency and accuracy. Bc420bc (talk) 08:07, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

I believe you may have made a slight mistake on your vandalism deletions.

Before I continue, I must clarify, I was a bit drunk, so I believe (from what I barely remember) I added a few unrelated links, and I deeply apologize for that. But, The writing itself was harmless in nature.

From what I remember, I was writing about a religion in my area called the Lofafis religion. I ask that you reverse the deletion so I can go back to writing, since I have only very old backups of the writing. I deeply apologize for the unrelated links and such, but I do need the writing back. I do understand if you refuse, though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bc420bc (talk • contribs) 07:57, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Bc420bc I am not an administrator so I can no longer see the deleted Draft:Lofafis Religion draft. Wikipedia is not for people to write about things they or people they know have just made up. Social media, or a personal website/blog would be a more appropriate venue for such writings. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 10:38, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

I can't edit

I have had so many problems and resulted in an edit conflict. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HistoryFanOfItAll1999 (talk • contribs) 16:56, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

Brother Michael Titus Moylan - Draft:Michael_Titus_Moylan.

You recently declined my piece on Brother Michael Titus Moylan - the fifth Superior General (after Blessed Edmund Ignatius Rice) of the Congregation of Christian Brothers. Surely his status as a world leader of that organisation makes him notable and I have sinceķ added seven independent sources. BuffyO'B (talk) 17:59, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi BuffyO'B when I declined it there was only a single source and that was find-a-grave that is classed as generally unreliable as user-generated (but can be used as an external link if it does not contain copyright violations). You have done the correct thing and added more sources and re-submitted so it will be reviewed again, but to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. However I can say that no, just being the leader of a notable organisation does not make a subject notable on their own, however in practice they often are. Currently only 3 out of 16 have articles. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 19:01, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi, thank you for your clear and reasonable reply. In reference to Brother Michael Titus's notability, The Old Tuam Society thought that he was important enough to include his life story along with that of his uncle Major Myles Moylan in their recent annual, The Journal of the Old Tuam Society #18 (https://catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000237091).To be honest,if one of my young lads was elected the worldwide leader of the Congregation of Christian brothers, I'd be a very proud Mammy and would knock the cork off a bottle of champagne and expect him to immediately have a Wiki page! Apologies for publishing without the sources - ScottishFinnishRadish was correct insofar as I find it very difficult to negotiate my way around this site - it's not my area of expertise. Yes, only three out of sixteen Superior Generals have a Wiki page so maybe it's time to rectify that! Thank you again for your time and I'm happy to leave the draft in the laps of the gods.BuffyO'B (talk) 21:11, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

A goat for you!

Dear KylieTastic, thank you for your feedback on my draft submission, it's very helpful!

EinstürzendeGebäude (talk) 01:50, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for catching the error in my draft article on James Owen Stedman. It seems no matter how many times I proofread, I always miss something. It's good to have another set of diligent caring eyes on an article. Txantimedia (talk) 18:58, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Hey Txantimedia no worries, I think many of us are the same - we read what is meant and our brains just ignore the extra. It's embarrassing the number of times someone has fixed a repeated word in articles I've accepted (my brain just does not see "the the"). Together we get there, and that is what matters :) Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 19:06, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Draft:SongStarz

Just wanted to say thank you - am new to Wikipedia and all help and pointers gratefully received. Hugh2021 (talk) 20:26, 12 December 2021 (UTC)


Help with Draft

Hi, I tried to submit my draft for a Rusty Lake page but unfortunately the one in my sandbox seems to not appear when I submit the page, because there is already one decline two weeks ago by you. I did not intended to resubmit that one, but the one in my sandbox. Sorry I'm new in this kind of stuff, can I ask you for help? Thanks. -PersiaF |Talk|Contr| 15:10, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

To be clear, I'm not asking for help with the draft but with the submitting... -PersiaF |Talk|Contr| 15:13, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
Sorry to have bothered, I suppose I've understood how to do it now! -PersiaF |Talk|Contr| 15:16, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
Oh and PersiaF no need to apologies - we all have to learn and we are here to help all good faith editors. KylieTastic (talk) 15:22, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
Thank you so much, I guess I did it right this time? I hope I haven't submitted it twice now... -PersiaF |Talk|Contr| 15:23, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
All looks good PersiaF - Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 15:24, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Here are my references and credentials for your review for posting Karena Feng page. Thank you!

https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/initiatives/pdfs/21-0004A1%20%28Child%20Custody%20%29.pdf https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/initiatives/pdfs/Title%20and%20Summary%20%2821-0004A1%29.pdf https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/initiatives/pdfs/fiscal-impact-estimate-report%2821-0004A1%29.pdf https://karenaconsultant.com/ https://wade4mayor.com/index.html https://famrights.org/ https://www.familyright.org/initiative https://rumble.com/vqf8ch-patriots-soapbox-patrick-howley-exclusive-whistleblower-interview-on-pelosi.html https://efoservices.fec.gov/webcheck/services/results/QKOC211210382116 https://www.facebook.com/KiddoRights/?ref=pages_you_manage https://www.linkedin.com/in/karena-feng-67381b64/

Karena Feng resubmitted, thank you Kylie!

References inserted into the Reference section for your review, thanks so much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karenafeng (talk • contribs) 20:49, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Talk page header on user pages

Hello, KylieTastic,

You do so much great work here, I have been on the fence about leaving this message for months because it's a small thing. But it's been driving me crazy!

It looks like when you leave a message to a content creator, you leave the review first and then later add a general welcome message which, unfortunately, is put at the top of the page. This leaves the user talk page looking like this:

  • Welcome
  • Talk page header
  • Draft review

Now, clearly in my mind, the header should be at the top of the page because, well, it is a page header. So, every day, I've been editing user talk pages to move the header to the top of the page. I've probably done it on over 100 editor talk pages where you have left messages. I assume other AFC reviewers don't do this because they don't take the time to add a welcome message which is really great of you. But if you could move it BELOW the talk header, that would be great. Or, if there was no header at all, that would also be a solution. I admit that this is a small thing but it's like editors who go crazy about the Oxford comma. If this is just the way that the AFC tools work, when then forget it and I'm sorry for bothering you. Thank you for everything you do, I look at hundreds of user pages each day and am impressed with how many of them have benefitted from your thoughtful reviews. Liz Read! Talk! 04:15, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Liz, another one of the names I know so well but I don't think we've had reason to discuss before. You should have mentioned sooner, I don't bite... well only the odd little nibble on persistent vandals ;) - The main reason it's like that is that is how Wikipedia:Twinkle adds the Welcome and I would have assumed as it is used by so many that was the consensus. I must admit it hadn't really crossed my mind though, but that's probably for a couple of reasons: firstly I guess I see the Welcome and Talk page header as one big header; Secondly I'm often busy being annoyed that many do not welcome new users especially after a decline to reduces the bite. Of course some also don't leave the decline message either which I really don't like. I just checked and realise it is AFCH that adds the talk page header if creating an page, for some reason I had never twigged. So I would suggest the way this should be 'fixed' is than Twinkle should check for {{Talk header}} and add the welcome after. Possibly there are other types of header as well this may apply to? Secondly should AFHC have an option to leave a welcome instead of the header as that makes more sense to me, but probably more effort to get changed and I would not want in every case - as I don't welcome pure vandals and attack page creators. Thoughts? Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 11:29, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
    You may have already figured this out, KylieTastic, but it is a setting in the Twinkle preferences. There is a checkbox in the Welcome user section at the top for "Place welcomes above existing content on user talk pages". I have mine unchecked so when leave a Welcome message it is placed on the bottom (see User talk:AS Rathaur....which also reminds me I need to do a better job with leaving them. I often forget.). Although sometimes it can look awkward when they aren't necessarily brand new editors and already have few messages. S0091 (talk) 22:56, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Hey, I did know that option S0091 I just find welcomes in the middle of the page less helpful. At the top they are the thing that is seen when the user clicks on their talk to help guide them. I just find seeing a load of declines and then a welcome odd, but maybe that is just me... same as maybe its just some others think that the {{Talk header}} should be at the top, maybe just because it has the word header in it :/ ... it feels like something that needs wider discussion and maybe I'll bring it up somewhere. Cheers S0091, KylieTastic (talk) 21:54, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Abish Brodt

Hello KylieTastic, I stumbled across the declined Draft:Abish Brodt. I am not well-versed enough in WP:ARTIST and WP:NMUSIC to be able to say for sure that it could survive Afd, but I think I can find a reliable source or two establishing the subject as a recognized cantor and singer. I also have no experience with the process of editing a declined draft and what it can accomplish, but I started anyhow, just because? Edit: Just an update that I added some sources and resubmitted per the instructions given, but it seems to have been declined anyways. StonyBrook (talk) 08:50, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi StonyBrook on the point of editing declined drafts it is encouraged if anyone thinks a subject is notable. Any good faith attempt to improve a draft or article is appreciated by me and by most editors I think. Most of us just care about the step by step making things better, so big thumbs up for trying. You don't have to be an expert on WP:ARTIST, WP:NMUSIC, WP:GNG etc just if you think you see a criteria you think a subject meets, go for it. I'm not going to re-review the decline but I would note that all the sources are for a few sentences, and although notability is separate from being well sourced, having so much unsourced is a distraction - material should be sourced or removed. Also some music related articles stall as people only judge on WP:NMUSIC/WP:MUSICBIO but for some aiming for WP:BIO is better but if you do its best to point that out. I hope that helps, but it's late and I'm just trying to catch up on a backlog of emails as I hate not answering people. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 22:07, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Invitation to take part in a survey about medical topics on Wikipedia

Dear fellow editor,

I am Piotr Konieczny, a sociologist of new media at Hanyang University (and User:Piotrus on Wikipedia). I would like to better understand Wikipedia's volunteers who edit medical topics, many associated with the WikiProject Medicine, and known to create some of the highest quality content on Wikipedia. I hope that the lessons I can learn from you that I will present to the academic audience will benefit both the WikiProject Medicine (improving your understanding of yourself and helping to promote it and attract new volunteers) and the wider world of medical volunteering and academia. Open access copy of the resulting research will be made available at WikiProject's Medicine upon the completion of the project.

All questions are optional. The survey is divided into 4 parts: 1 - Brief description of yourself; 2 - Questions about your volunteering; 3 - Questions about WikiProject Medicine and 4 - Questions about Wikipedia's coverage of medical topics.

Please note that by filling out this questionnaire, you consent to participate in this research. The survey is anonymous and all personal details relevant to your experience will be kept private and will not be transferred to any third party.

I appreciate your support of this research and thank you in advance for taking the time to participate and share your experiences! If you have any questions at all, please feel free to contact me at my Wikipedia user page or through my email listed on the survey page (or by Wikipedia email this user function).

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Nana is it over yet?

I haven't read this so I've summed it up. 2405:9800:BA10:1984:A42B:D00E:D5D9:1691 (talk) 12:20, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Daria Zueva

The page has 88 references. How many does one need to be accepted?

Brenn (talk) 12:34, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Brenn it is not about the number of references more the quality. All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). For notability three good sources with significant coverage is enough, or a few more if just fairly significant coverage. See WP:NACTOR for extra notes on actors. However doing a massive WP:REFBOMB is not helpful, especially just dumping them at the top. If you saw that on any other article what would you think? Things like this only show she hosted an hour of a show which is far from significant, or this just a casting listing so not independent or significant coverage. Remove all the trivial and non independent sources, use your best sources as in-line refs on the lead sentence. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 14:48, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

Review

Hi Kylie,

I’ve adjusted the sources as you advised. Would you be able to look again at the page to see if it is sufficient? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mkwal914 (talk • contribs) 17:33, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Mkwal914 as my page notice says to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. However a couple of random checks I did did not help show any notability: the awards appear to be local and them mostly split into divisions. Another one I checked was "featured in CNN" which sounds notable, but the first source is mentioning what looks like a random selection in every state out of "About 350 newspapers" - even then this is just a mention a name drop not being "featured" similarly with the second source. The next for The Guardian did not again feature the "Chagrin Valley Times" it featured John Oliver and Last Week Tonight, with a mention of the Chagrin Valley Times. The question would be are there any sources with significant coverage rather than mentions. Also since you have only edited this one subject it really does look like you have an undisclosed WP:COI - and removing the tag twice without comment or reason just makes it look more so. KylieTastic (talk) 19:56, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

Consulting about my edits on ISS page

Dear KylieTastic, Recently I brought changes to the lead image of International Space Station in this way, since I needed to get viewers summoned of current iss looks. The earlier one was 11 years old picture and didn't include the newer modules added to iss most notably the irosa and elongated section at the bottom due to addition of Nauka MLM-U module. Since the one I uploaded a month ago was reverted due to it being not a complete image of iss. I want to discuss my actions I have said above before anyone tries to revert it. Chinakpradhan (talk) 18:06, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

Nobody says anything to my discussion on the iss talk page so i am discussing it personally with you Chinakpradhan (talk) 18:09, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Chinakpradhan my only involvement was rescuing an image after it was broken by the bot - sorry it does look like I went back to far. There does look like a licencing issue on your new image as it is posted on Flickr as by-nc-nd which I don't believe is compatible with commons usage. The image may not be owned by NASA as the licence you used states. Just because NASA posted it does not mean NASA was the author. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 19:36, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

KylieTastic, Leave aside that by-nc-nd issue, that's nasa problem with flickr lisences. Read this latest issue. Here Thomas Pesquet is the owner but he took on nasa credit like a nasa livestream. If you read exif data the ones that belong to Thomas are inducated by his name which is not here. Ah!! I don't want to go deep into the details again, so please just say that can I be allowed to replace the 11 years old image with my new one. Chinakpradhan (talk) 19:43, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Hey Chinakpradhan I was just pointing it out in case you hadn't noticed, but I have no desire to get into detailed copyright issues and if no one else makes an issue of it I certainly won't. As I said I was only dealing with a broken image flagged up at CAT:MISSFILE but as long as the image is a reasonable depiction of a subject I don't mind. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 20:02, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

Ok thank you for your suggestions Chinakpradhan (talk) 20:09, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank God

FINALLY, someone who doesn't want's to spit me in the face and is actually kind, thank you for that! — Preceding unsigned comment added by MaeaHoo (talk • contribs) 01:19, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Hola MaeaHoo your welcome. The internet does have to many hostile people, but I live in hope that some day it will improve. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 09:47, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

Draft:3D stop motion game

hello 3D stop motion game just declined but i can give you good reason why this knowledge should be accepted it is because 3D stop motion game is on one of biggiest korean dictionary called "NAVER" dictionary address: https://terms.naver.com/entry.naver?docId=5766846&cid=43667&categoryId=43667

and it is also on korean wikipedia address: https://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_스톱모션_게임 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.11.169.5 (talk) 13:07, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi 1.11.169.5 Wikipedia is an encyclopedia not a dictionary. All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). User generated content including Wikis (and thus Wikipedia) are not reliable sources. The Korean version is also unsourced. The submission also has no indication how this is used as a game, it is just a game that included stop motion video? The naver source is also unclear how this relates to a game and basically just describes stop motion video. The stop motion article already mentions it can be used for games. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 13:22, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
  • it is a game invented by using stop motion techiques

like neverhood the game was invented by using stop motion techiques it does not have stop motion video it is invented by stop motion techinique [57]

  • hello this time i sent submission and i did not get the answer

(accepted or declined?) even though i waited for over 12 hours do i have to wait for 3 month? i think that's very long time

address: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:3D_stop_motion_game — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.52.60.213 (talk) 08:29, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

Question on draft: Li Xiang/李响 AfC


Dear Kylie Tastic

I appreciate that you spent your time reviewing my draft, but please simplify your message. I do not understand what you are trying to say; this is my first time making a page. Also, could you tell me how to improve on my draft so it could be published? Thank you.

68.204.44.114 (talk) 01:11, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Sorry you had to deal with such a nasty person. I thought you might enjoy a nice pint to change the vibe. Mojo Hand (talk) 17:30, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Zafar_Ikram_Sheikh

Hi Kylie,

Thanks for the speedy review and comments, although disapproved. Will make the changes as per your comments and hopefully it will be confirmed thereafter. Have a good day!

Ecirual1 (talk) 05:09, 20 December 2021 (UTC) Ecirual1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ecirual1 (talk • contribs) 04:34, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Re submitted the page details for K.S Anil Neyyattinkara

Dear Kylie

I have resubmitted the details with few references where Mr K.S Anil Neyyattinkara currently serving Kerala Pradesh Congress Committee (Secular) KPCC(S) as State General Secretary.

He is an old leader but new to social media hence his profile is not visible on any social media platforms.

He is one of the board of directors of KAMCO, Please check (no.3) from the list available in the hyperlink below. http://www.kamcoindia.com/html/Board_of_Directors.htm


Hope the above help you to evaluate the genuineness of the profile.

Warm regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by KPCCS (talk • contribs) 11:43, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Note: Above user has been soft blocked (Article had not been resubmitted) KylieTastic (talk) 14:25, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

I Unknowingly edited Draft:Jammu and Kashmir Nationalist People's Front

Hello sir, I don't know creator of Draft:Jammu and Kashmir Nationalist People's Front is Sock and Blocked. I just edited and then saw his userpage. ShifaAayat (talk) 16:26, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi ShifaAayat the creator was blocked because of their name and was created after yours so I doubt anyone would think you were linked. As they are only blocked for their name linked to the group rather than individual they could create a new account but often people don't. So I see no issue with you improving the draft and re-submitting if you want to. I would note that one of your sources "Republic World" is depreciated and should not be used (see WP:REPUBLICWORLD) apart from that do feel free to to re-submit once you have finished updating. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 17:00, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Thank You KylieTastic Sir. That Political Party is new, waiting for new publications. Okay sir will never add Republic World's news as a reference. ShifaAayat (talk) 17:10, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

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Request on 03:53:07, 22 December 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Dularee


Hi, I hope youre well! I have a question that I hope you can help me understand (I'm not a huge wiz on wikipedia, still learning!) The article I made on a subject was rejected twice saying that the sources dont cover the topic and are passing mentions. The language of the sources are in Urdu - but they are not passing mentions. The interviews are of the founder talking solely about the initiative and what the initiative does.

I only decided to make this page because this initiative has helped 1000 people and domestic violence victims have been rescued from their homes - there are evil people making fake pages pretending to be the initiative. I figured a wikipedia would be helpful to them. I would love it if you could tell me exactly what I am doing wrong so I can fix it as the reason listed isnt clear to me.

Dularee (talk) 03:53, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Dularee it's a good goal to want to have an article for such an initiative, however new initiatives/organisations etc often don't have the exposure yet to be deemed 'notable' buy Wikipdedia guidelines. All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Currently it has two interviews with the founder so these are not deemed independent. The independenturdu.com is a reliable source but the article with the video talks about the issue in general but again most of the rest is quotes and what Sophia Jaffery said. It's difficult to even judge it this is an initiative involving more than just Sophia Jaffery just setting up a social media page and helping people in her spare time. What it would need is some more sources have significant coverage about it. If they don't yet exist then hopefully it will grow and get the coverage to get an article later. I would rather there was not the need to grow such an initiative, but unfortunately such help is very much needed in the modern world. Have a look to see if other sources exist that could help and if not there are no time-limits so wait and see how things go in the future. All the best, KylieTastic (talk) 08:52, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Akira Otoishi

Good morning Mr KylieTastic, sorry to bother you, I was wondering if it's still possible to rate my draft Otakuplayer2004 (talk) 12:12, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Otakuplayer2004 I see you have added sources and would say resubmit if you have finished revising however do note that IMDB is not a reliable source as it is user generated content - see WP:IMDB, so those should be removed. Once you have done what you can to add reliable sources to show notability just resubmit using the blue button on the previous decline notice. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 12:45, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

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  • Hey Katniss back at you! Hope you've been doing ok in these "interesting times" - Enjoy the holidays and everything crossed for 2022! KylieTastic (talk) 16:55, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Center for Risk and Reliability (CRR)

Thank you for reviewing my draft about the Center for Risk and Reliability. I am trying to increase the content of Reliability Engineering on the Wiki and I was wondering your reason for declining my draft. I read the WP:Notability, and in my opinion, the CRR falls within. I also saw similar pages with much less content published on the Wikipedia Center for reliability research. I would appreciate it if you can give me some feedback on how to improve the article for publishing. Thank you. --Sarouk7 (talk) 14:26, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi@KylieTastic:, I did work on enriching the reliable sources from independent sources. Can you please give me your opinion of the draft before I resubmit it? Much appreciated. --Sarouk7 (talk) 21:53, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Hi Sarouk7 thanks for adding more sources, but it's Christmas and I'm trying too take a break... please do just resubmit and someone will hopefully review soon. All the best, KylieTastic (talk) 09:51, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

Request on 15:44:34, 24 December 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Lilbiz


no, I have no conflict of interest may have been created or edited in return for undisclosed payments https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Nelo_Group

Lilbiz (talk) 15:44, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Lilbiz so what made you want to write about this group and one of their companies and nothing else? It is not very believable that someone only wants to edit in relation to a single subject like this with no link to it. KylieTastic (talk) 15:50, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
  • KylieTastic My undergraduate degree in social communication is ending, I want to specialize in writing companies, emerging startups in Latin America, recently in my class we had the opportunity to visit the facilities of this company in general and share with its administrative team and I was greatly impacted by what they are doing and what they want to achieve in the near future. So it seemed like a good topic for my final work and a good beginning to write since it is a topic that little is being talked about now. KylieTastic (talk) 17:56, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Hi KylieTastic Yes, I know that it is a very difficult challenge, and it seemed interesting to me to start from scratch, since I wanted to learn and define a style in a particular subject that I love! which is business and companies, in fact I hope to be able to add it to my portfolio of works next year as it will be a good cover letter. In advance Thank you very much for your confidence in the next resumit, I will try harder and do better!. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lilbiz (talk • contribs)

Draft:Salvatore Ambrosini

Hi, I read the warning you added to the entry Draft:Salvatore Ambrosini and I think it is nonsense, because the entry Maurizio Merluzzo, like other voices, has this reference... (Of course I am referring to the question of the IMDb profile) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nonna Angelina (talk • contribs) 13:22, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Nonna Angelina no IMDB has become a joke for reliability - maybe not for major film and actors but the fact that anyone can just create there own profile often not even movie, TV or acting related makes it worthless. In your case it even nicely and honestly admits its self written as it states "IMDb Mini Biography By: Salvatore Ambrosini" so is not independent. As for Maurizio Merluzzo, yes that is the same issue so they have been removed - there are people cleaning up bad references but not wit billions of articles it will take a while as per the caveat at WP:IMDB there are a few exceptions. Your adding of the notability tag was correct, and without checking deeper I would guess they are not notable from what is presented so WP:AFD may be more appropriate. KylieTastic (talk) 23:59, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm glad that the correction I made was successful. Good day! Ah... One more thing... Can you check if the Draft: Salvatore Ambrosini is okay? Nonna Angelina (talk) 11:33, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Nonna Angelina, sorry but to be fair to all submitters I don't review/re-review on request, I just quick check all new submission for issues, focus on topics I'm interested in and then pick new and old submissions at random, so it may or may not be myself who reviews it next. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 13:11, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

OK, thanks anyway — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nonna Angelina (talk • contribs) 14:25, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

AFCH

Hi there, just had a question about the AFC Helper Script , I remember all reviewer decline notices and comments used to stay up on the draft has this been changed? or what happened [60]here was an error or something? (I had been off WP for a while). Thanks and happy holidays! Bingobro (Chat) 13:29, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Hey Bingobro Happy Holiday! That is just an edit/review clash, unfortunately the script appears to have got worse over time, however it's still rare and usually with people checking the newest submits at the same time. If I notice it happening I self revert if I'm the second, and if first I either leave if basically the same or manually re-add a comment that was lost. I'm sure it's edit clash detection used to be better, and I keep meaning to look at the code but that is just one thing on my large todo list ;) If you see me accidentally overwrite a review like that feel free to revert it, I only care the reviews are getting done. The only thing I would say that matters is to make sure a copyright violation that was spotted by only one reviewer is not lost. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 12:08, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

CRASH TEST

There are a bunch of US and international movies with less coverage than Crash Test - that are allowed to have a wikipedia page. Why is Crash Test not allowed to? Many indie horror movies don't get reviews via The Guardian, I am happy to offer references from niche horror film critics, but not if some snobbish Wikipedia editor is going to reject it anyway because it's not a blockbuster. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Martinpeterson93 (talk • contribs) 22:39, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Martinpeterson93 all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). The WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS argument will almost never help get drafts accepted, as either the other stuff is notable just badly sourced or often is also not notable and should be deleted (see WP:AFD of you find any). The guidelines and processes have grown over time and there is still much junk in mainspace that needs deleting. As IMDB is not a reliable source (see WP:IMDB) you basically have zero sources - let alone anything to show it passes Wikipedia:Notability (films) or General notability guideline. Also if you had read Wikipedia:Notability (films) you would know a film does not have to be a blockbuster - but it does have to be notable - i.e. it has been noted by more than a small group of people. Due to the nature of many indie films I would guess many pass on General notability guideline rather than WP:FILM, but yes many indie films would struggle to find enough references to show notability. The declines are not because of any "snobbish Wikipedia editor"s opinion but because there are guidelines for was can be included that have been built by community condenses. That does mean that some worthy subjects without good sources do not qualify while many frankly (IMHO) worthless subjects that get lots of press do. If any reviewer accepted the article as presented it would likely be deleted in hours and the reviewer would likely reprimanded. So unless new guidelines are proposed and community accepted these are the guidelines we have. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 12:32, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Oh and Martinpeterson93 if you want to get advice to if it is likely to be able to be shown to be notable I would suggest asking for opinions/help at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film. KylieTastic (talk) 12:47, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Draft:KTZT-CD

Hi, it's user MovingFromJenks here, could you help me with the draft, please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MovingFromJenks (talk • contribs) 12:11, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

  • As your reaction to the sockpuppet notice was to remove/hide it and not respond I can only take that as an admission that you are - so no. KylieTastic (talk) 13:55, 29 December 2021 (UTC)


There's nothing I know of to improve! Please help me, I can't do it alone. This is my first time making a article. MovingFromJenks talk 05:08 29 December 2021 — Preceding undated comment added 17:08, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

  • See above - I agree with the report and believe you are a sock-puppet so I will help actual new users. KylieTastic (talk) 17:13, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
  • And as expected - now blocked. KylieTastic (talk) 11:20, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Request

Dear KylieTastic, Not so long ago (maybe yesterday), you rejected my article Valóság.exe. Well, that's understandable, because it's conceivable you didn't know what's it. Valóság.exe is an upcoming 2022 Hungarian movie. For example, the soundtrack of the film will be composed by Boris Skalsky. Boris Skalsky has made and wrote music for several films (eg the 2011 film Friends with Kids). So even the composer of the film Valóság.exe is already somewhat known. Is it conceivable that it is famous enough for Wikipedia? (More information about the film: IMDb, Official (Hungarian) Website )

Best Regards, --Bestuff (talk) 12:51, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Draft:DC Matrix

Hey KylieTastic!

Below paragraph is the reason why my page was rejected: "This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia."

Now, what I had submitted has been accepted as a part of Another algorithm, that I created and published a research paper on, in IEEE Xplore Digital Library. So isn't that considered a reliable source? If not, then can you please help me out with a doubt that I have? My Doubt: I created that Matrix and Algorithm and it's accepted and published in IEEE, but now I am stuck, not sure how I can let the common public know that I have created such an algorithm. How would people know and actually implement and use it? Deep DC97 (talk) 13:00, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi Deep DC97 all new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). Now for more academic subjects we would be looking for sources to show that others are using/discussing the topic. Wikipedia is not a place to promote things to "the common public" but an encyclopedia that has articles on things that are already 'notable'. So yes the IEEE Xplore Digital Library is a reliable source it is not independent, as it is just the subject of the article. I'm not sure if it is even peer reviewed, and it does not appear to have been cited. So unless there are independent reliable sources to show notability it is non likely to be accepted. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 13:25, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

That's a new one...

I sometimes browse Category:Pending AfC submissions in article space, and today I came across this diff, which I got a kick out of: Special:Diff/1062846748. Thought you might as well. Apparently you were mistaken and it was actually approved! Don't worry, the submitter took care of it for you. =P -2pou (talk) 22:43, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Oh, wait; there's more! Special:Diff/1062854320 -2pou (talk) 22:45, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
2pou Ah it's deleted but from the second one I can guess :/ I've only had that happen a couple of times... I will never understand the actions of some. Good to see the systems work and the issue was found and dealt with - Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 11:15, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

Request on 15:31:52, 31 December 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Hiliskbose2021


I would like to understand why the article been declined. What reference you found is not reliable?? The article have enough reference and citation still if you found it to be unreliable then please be kindly specific about it.


Hiliskbose2021 (talk) 15:31, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Hiliskbose2021 as my comment on the article states - Not a single source/reference mentions "Saroj Kumar Bose" or "Saroj Kumar Basu" - I searched for "Bose" and "Basu" in each because your title and text do not agree on the name spelling and found nothing that looking like either name. The point of references is to actually be a source for the information given. KylieTastic (talk) 15:37, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
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