Talk:Pneumatosis

Requested move 16 June 2019

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The result of the move request was: Not moved per the discussion. (non-admin closure) – Ammarpad (talk) 09:03, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

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Pneumatosis → ? – Emphysema is the usual name searched for - 16 million hits Google; pneumatosis with far fewer hits - 230K always calls up intestinalis or coli; most searches are related to the lungs; most of page is relevant to the lungs; recent redirect of page to Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease does not even redirect to an appropriate section - also many items like bullous emphysema are not covered there; really do not think it is an aka for pneumatosis which was until recently just a Wiktionary entry. Iztwoz (talk) 14:31, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose The term "emphysema" is most often used as an old term for COPD. That is why it has so many hits. Thus it should remain redirected to COPD as that is what people are looking for. We could call this "Emphysema (pathology)" as it is about a pathological finding. But I think it is fine how it is.
  • For example we have the CDC that says "Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, or COPD, refers to a group of diseases that cause airflow blockage and breathing-related problems. It includes emphysema and chronic bronchitis."
  • We have WHO that says "The more familiar terms 'chronic bronchitis' and 'emphysema' are no longer used, but are now included within the COPD diagnosis."
• Basically this article is about a less common use of the term. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 20:32, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

The first CDC ref quoted says "refers to a group of diseases.... includes emphysema and chronic bronchitis" - as diseases surely? Also importantly the page name if given as an aka for emphysema is not the common name.--Iztwoz (talk) 08:27, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

• agree w/ Doc James--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 01:14, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose, in agreement with Doc James's logic. I imagine that people searching for the term "emphysema" are not looking for this article, but instead are looking for COPD. The COPD article has a redirect to pneumatosis at the top, which should be sufficient for readers interested in the subject. ―Biochemistry🙴❤ 03:06, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

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Main topic

The main topic of emphysema is COPD, it is not pneumatosis. Thus the redirect from emphysema should go to COPD with a hatnote to pneumatosis which is what we have now.

We should probably do the same with chronic bronchitis. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 19:03, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Content split

Emphysema content split to Emphysema page. Material on emphysema was increased and in need of its own page - emphysema covers much more than just that related to COPD - also it is just referred to on COPD page without either its own section or detail.--Iztwoz (talk) 09:48, 31 July 2021 (UTC)