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Include both AbandonBiden and Uncommitted within the same article

Debated with myself to split them up, but the same people are involved in both and the two are intertwined. Ostensibly, everyone in AbandonBiden supports Uncommitted, though not everyone in Uncommitted will Abandon Biden. User:Sawerchessread (talk) 18:43, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Uncommitted Movement

Some sources seem to argue that the Uncommitted movement, though it also primarily involves the Israel-Hamas conflict, is also motivated by other factors.

Some sources say Armenian Americans were angry at Biden's actions regarding the conflict in Armenia, and some voters are voting uncommitted due to concerns with his viability as a candidate. User:Sawerchessread (talk) 18:57, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thoughts on a table?

I have no clue how to structure an uncommitted movement as the primaries progress. A table would be nice to keep track of results.

I also worry about necessarily exaggerating the delegate count. Though gaining 5 or 7 or so delegates sounds like a lot to win for the movement, the DNC apparently has more than 4,500 delegates total. User:Sawerchessread (talk) 19:21, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

never mind there is a suitable table on Uncommitted (voting option) that properly captures the info User:Sawerchessread (talk) 18:01, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

names of these movements

none of these movements seem to be nationaply organized and fast evolving scenarios makes it hard to keep track of what to call them (see the discussion here Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Uncommitted campaign)

im under impression that abandonBiden is against supporting biden at all while most of these uncommitted movements claim they can vote for biden given an incentive User:Sawerchessread (talk) 18:04, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup writeup template

I'm removing this template for now. An editor added this in sometime early March, but never added more info or added a talk space discussion. If someone objects, feel free to revert, and I won't delete the template again. User:Sawerchessread (talk) 18:14, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I suggest that the Uncommitted Movements section named other races be updated to include recent democratic party primaries results such as:

In Kentucky, uncommitted received 17.9% of the vote and eight delegates. In Rhode Island, uncommitted received 14.5% of the vote and one delegate. In Massachusetts, no preference received one delegate. In Missouri, uncommitted won three delegates and received 36% of the vote in the city of St. Louis. Smobes (talk) 03:16, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

could you provide sources suggesting these are connected to a protest vote movement?

i saw for kentucky at least, nytimes was claiming that these were “ancestral democrats” who were blue dog democrats/DINOs who had changed to republican a while ago. makes sense, kentucky is not known for its intense progressive and/or muslim base

massachussetts makes sense to be connected maybe. no clue about other states User:Sawerchessread (talk) 04:43, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This Boston Globe article claims the uncommitted vote that resulted in winning a delegate in Rhode Island was a protest against US policy on the Israel-Hamas war in Gaza. [1]https://www.bostonglobe.com/2024/04/12/metro/ri-will-send-one-uncommitted-delegate-democratic-party-convention/

These two articles from Massachusetts Live and ABC claim that the Massachusetts uncommitted vote was a protest against US policy on the Israel-Hamas war in Gaza.

https://www.masslive.com/politics/2024/03/mass-coalition-urges-dem-voters-to-choose-no-preference-in-primary.html [2]https://www.wcvb.com/article/large-rally-no-preference-primary-vote-shuts-down-cambridge-massachusetts-road/60058962

Article from NPR related to the Missouri uncommitted vote saying it is likely toward Israel’s military invasion of Gaza. [3]https://www.stlpr.org/government-politics-issues/2024-03-26/biden-wins-missouri-democratic-presidential-primary

For the June 4th Democratic Party presidential primary in New Jersey, the uncommitted vote is associated with the protest movement against US policy on the Israel-Hamas war in Gaza. [4]https://midjersey.news/2024/05/27/2024-democratic-party-primary-sample-ballots-contain-justice-for-palestine-permanent-ceasefire-now-political-message/ [5]https://www.inquirer.com/politics/election/nj-uncomitted-campaign-democrats-2024-primary-election-20240520.html [6]https://newjerseymonitor.com/2024/04/03/uncommitted-movement-to-press-biden-on-gaza-lands-in-new-jersey/ Smobes (talk) 17:30, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also, in Montana, regarding the June 4th Montana Democrat party presidential primary, the organization 'Montanans 4 Palestine' is actively encouraging voters to support “no preference” as a protest vote against US policy on the Israel-Hamas war in Gaza.[7]https://www.ktvh.com/news/montana-presidential-primary-gives-option-for-no-preference-votes Smobes (talk) 17:44, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: Please respond to Sawerchessread first. thetechie@enwiki: ~/talk/ $ 03:25, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]