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Restructuring of IPNA.... IPNA/Nish recast?

Here is a question I had posed at WP:IPNA/Nish that I'm cross-posting here. As topics associated with Indigenous Peoples of the Americas are in need of better attention, IPNA proposes to restructure, bring about a macroproject to cover all of the Americas, create a new Indigenous Peoples of South America project, and have 6 regional subprojects or categories for both, with 2 multi-regional subproject/categories for the reorganized IPNA. The current proposal is to have IPNA/Nish to include all Cree peoples, and then this combined multi-regional subproject, together with a parallel multi-regional subproject covering all the various Dene peoples. Would we here at IPNA/Nish mind broadening of the scope to include all the Cree as well so that we have a set of dedicated group of people who would work on both Cree-related and Anishinaabe-related articles? Please go to WP:IPNA and comment on the project restructuring. Miigwech. CJLippert (talk) 15:43, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Total population

Where was gotten info about total population Cree people in Canada? What sources?--Kaiyr (talk) 15:05, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Source or verification for the list of Cree Communities?

This is not intended in a harshly critical way, but... Going through Canadian gov't sources, it is not easy to distinguish Cree reservations from non-Cree, and many First Nations comprise both Cree and non-Cree groups in the same political unit. I notice some other problems that raise an eyebrow... e.g., a broken link for Mosquito-Grizzly Bear's Head-Lean Man that just names the F.N. as "Mosquito Grizzly Bear's Head First Nation" (thus excluding one of the bands, intentionally or accidentally?). Does anyone know what published source this list derives from, or, better still, a published source that this could be compared to (either for verification or improvement)?71.17.90.240 (talk) 15:46, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

CfR - "Cree nations" -> "Cree governments

Requested move 3 February 2015

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Favonian (talk) 22:22, 11 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Cree → Cree people – for the people 76.120.164.90 (talk) 21:58, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment if this is moved, then the disambiguation page should replace it at the base location -- 65.94.40.137 (talk) 05:19, 4 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose No rational given. 117Avenue (talk) 05:04, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose as per 117Avenue. Also the past couple of years discussions on this type of article have gone with the people being at an undisambiguated title where the people are the primary target. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 19:44, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
like English, French, Spanish for example? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.120.164.90 (talk) 22:08, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
With the exception of a few comments about using Spaniards in 2012 not one of those articles has had a move request. That of course would be because there is no reason to assume that the people of those three articles are the primary target. All of this was hashed out at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (ethnicities and tribes) and Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (ethnicities and tribes). Why go backwards with this when the primary usage of Cree is for the people. Look at Talk:Assiniboine#Requested move. And Talk:Chipewyan#Requested move and the section below it was what started everything I think. Although the original request was declined I think several of them have since been moved. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 07:28, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Just checked and of that list there are about six of them that are still at the "Foo people" title. The rest have been moved to the undisabiguated "Foo". CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 07:32, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • 'Strong oppose per 117 Avenue and Cambridge Bay Weather and also per WP:DEADHORSE, adding unneeded disambiguation to unique names with a clear PRIMARYTOPIC has been proven/demonstrated to be against guidelines and policy (TITLE per the Five Characteristics) and more. There is no grounds for this move in guidelines, or in reality either.Skookum1 (talk) 09:31, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Image

User:Isambard Kingdom has twice replaced the photo of Buffy St. Marie, a notable, living Cree person, with an 1913 black-and-white image of an unknown group of people from the British Museum's collection. We don't know who these people are or if they are really Cree, whereas Buffy St. Marie can be identified from similar photos at the same concert. The message the antique, anonymous image sends is pretty obvious—that First Nations people are from the past, not the present, and live in tipis as opposed to having careers in music today. The user has never contributed to the Cree or any other Native article previously, so I'm mystified by her/his insistence, but an image of a living, named tribal member is more accurate than an antique image of anonymous people. Wikipedia exists to share facts not stereotypes. Yuchitown (talk) 18:02, 21 December 2015 (UTC)Yuchitown[reply]

Please don't jump to an assertion that I believe in stereotypes. The image I inserted into the lead is already in the article itself. I would like to see good and representative images for all articles. Thank you, Isambard Kingdom (talk) 18:45, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
A living ethnic group should be represented by living people in color photographs. 18:59, 21 December 2015 (UTC)Yuchitown — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yuchitown (talk • contribs)
Okay, I accept your opinion on this subject. Please refrain from jumping to conclusions about stereotypes. Isambard Kingdom (talk) 19:02, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • I gotta say, it's a terrible picture for representing an entire people. Curly Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 10:46, 1 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Do you have a better photo of living Cree people that you'd be willing to put into public domain? Yuchitown (talk) 17:19, 1 March 2016 (UTC)Yuchitown[reply]

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Buffy Sainte-Marie

I've removed Buffy Sainte-Marie from the list of Cree people following the CBC News article. She is an adopted member of the Piapot First Nation, but not indigenous Cree according to that source. If she is added back to this article, there should be an explanatory note. gobonobo + c 17:18, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! She's an adopted member of one family within with the First Nation, but I haven't heard anything about the nation itself adopting her. (And my apologies for including her photo in the past. Live and learn!) Yuchitown (talk) 16:13, 31 October 2023 (UTC)Yuchitown[reply]

Medical claims in the ethnobotany section

There are a few statements in the Ethnobotany section which seem to be sourced to Leighton, Anna L., 1985, Wild Plant Use by the Woods Cree (Nihithawak) of East-Central Saskatchewan, Ottawa.

Does anybody have access to this source to verify what type of claim is being made? For example, we are saying in wikivoice that the Cree use Vaccinium myrtilloides to “prevent pregnancy”. But does it actually have a contraceptive effect? Or should the wording be something like “traditionally believed to prevent pregnancy”. Barnards.tar.gz (talk) 13:36, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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