Talk:COVID-19 pandemic in Singapore

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Splitting the article up, the December 2020 edition

@HzgiUU149377, Skaijie, Singaporeano, TheGreatSG'rean, SBS3800P, and Phurian900: Pinging you all since you are the recent editors on the page. As at one of the last revisions of 16 Dec, the article has grown so much that the wiki engine is starting to give up on the page. The navbox at the bottom of the page is no longer being rendered as the content on the page has exceeded the processing limits. This is what you will see at the end of the content if you view source of the rendered article: 

<a href="#invoke:Navbox_with_collapsible_groups">#invoke:Navbox with collapsible groups</a><!-- WARNING: template omitted, post-expand include size too large -->

I am thinking to split the article up, similarly to COVID-19 pandemic in the United States article, but at a smaller scale of course. In the process of splitting, there may be a need to do rewrite and/or summarise portions of individual sections. Do voice your inputs or feel free to jump the gun. Note: If there is no inputs or other actions taken to tackle this by Christmas, I will carry out the splitting to my best ability then. – robertsky (talk) 18:02, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The article prose is only 56kB, which while on the longer size style-wise is not nearly long enough to cause issues. I suspect the issue is the transclusion of Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Singapore medical cases chart, Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Singapore untraced cases, and the generation of all the graphs within "Statistics". Removing just the Statistics graphs may fix the issue, as is done on the United States page. CMD (talk) 01:36, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Same. We can have the statistics on another page, and create a 2021 COVID page too. TheGreatSG'rean (talk) 01:39, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Chipmunkdavis and TheGreatSG'rean: Noted. I will experiment and split accordingly as above. However, the possibility of splitting the prose up may still stand. I just went through the article just for Economic impacts, and realised that that section is already dated, and requires updating. New/recent sources: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-singapore-unemployment-highest-retrenchment-doubles-12971904 https://www.straitstimes.com/business/economy/spore-likely-to-take-longer-to-recover-from-covid-19 – robertsky (talk) 08:48, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Update: I have split the statistics section into Statistics of the COVID-19 pandemic in Singapore. This indeed resolves the post processing issue, but only marginally as the post‐expand include size is just below the limit: 2094515/2097152 bytes. Feel free to expand/edit/improve on the prose in the split article. The general section breakdown is inspired by Statistics of the COVID-19 pandemic in the United States. – robertsky (talk) 10:03, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

88-year old cleaner working at Changi Airport's Terminal 3

Is this true? Are 88-year old persons allowed to work in Singapore? Lumiart (talk) 11:50, 14 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

PEIS management, June 2022

Pinging recent editors @HzgiUU149377, Speedbirdconcorde001, SBS3800P, and TheGreatSG'rean:
The WP:PEIS limit of this article had been exceeded (=too much stuff in templates), causing reflist and navboxes to be broken. For the time being, I've managed to claw back a bit of allowance with a couple tweaks ([1],[2]) and it's at 1,941,143/2,097,152 bytes -- about 7% remaining. Probably a good idea to consider preemptive measures, it's only a matter of time before it breaks again. The last time this happened, the Statistics section was spun off into a separate article because the graphs took up a lot of the quota. The {{COVID-19 pandemic data/Singapore medical cases chart}} still remains here and is currently responsible for >886,000 bytes — note: this will keep increasing as daily data keeps getting added!

Some options for consideration:

  • Move + reduce medical cases chart
The case count chart is cause for concern, because it'll keep growing as long as MOH is providing updates. We could:
  • move it to the statistics article ←— will probably end up breaking that article instead
  • present only a partial reduced-size |short=yes version, while the complete data is shown in a separate article (or just use the template page itself). {{COVID-19 pandemic}} has similar option param. I tested having just the current (partial) month and past 3 complete months, which gives a reduction of roughly >750,000 bytes. Recommended.
Replacing some/all of 300+ instances of {{((}}{{Cite web}}| with {{((}}#invoke:{{Cite web}}|| could help, but it has the downside of being a bit editor-unfriendly because it's not the usual thing people expect.
  • Split off one or more sections
May be warranted because the article is getting a bit long and unwieldy anyway. Leave only a minimal summary that doesn't require many citations. This helps reduce the load from {{reflist}} and citation templates.
  • Epidemiology section is largest and thus good candidate; can do in conjunction with the |short=yes version of case count chart as part of residual summary.
  • ATB/ATP/VTL arrangements don't really belong in "Domestic impact" and could be farmed out to a "border controls" or "travel arrangements" article.
  • open to other suggestions.

Thoughts? ——2406:3003:2077:1E60:D59D:E6EC:AEA9:4652 (talk) 18:39, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

invoke

Why is this article using invoke for every template? That's non-standard, not needed, and it causes bots to fail to maintain the citations. Please use templates as they are designed, it's meant to be simple, no need to be clever adding layers of complexity that cause other tools and processes to fail. -- GreenC 17:13, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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