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2012 notes

Moved to Ineligible: Theodore Roosevelt (William McKinley is selected as TFA for 2012)
Omitted: Faroe Islands; Totskoye range nuclear tests; Nur Muhammad Taraki; Croatian Republic of Herzeg-Bosnia; Northern Rock
Included: Harun al-Rashid (7th appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); Calendar (New Style) Act 1750 (first appearance; blurb previously featured Gregorian calendar, which appears on October 15); Isadora Duncan (first appearance); Bachir Gemayel (first appearance); Kumba Ialá (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 11:21, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2013 notes

Moved to Ineligible: Faroe Islands (maintenance); Totskoye nuclear exercise (maintenance); Croatian Republic of Herzeg-Bosnia (maintenance)
Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Theodore Roosevelt; Elizabeth Ann Seton
Omitted: Harun al-Rashid; Calendar (New Style) Act 1750; Isadora Duncan (ineligible—maintenance); Bachir Gemayel; Kumba Ialá; Northern Rock
Included: Domitian (first appearance); Battle of Devil's Hole (first appearance); Locarno Treaties (2nd appearance, last in 2011; blurb previously appeared on December 1); Nur Muhammad Taraki (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Aeroflot Flight 821 (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 06:28, 13 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2014 notes

Omitted: Battle of Devil's Hole; Locarno Treaties; Nur Muhammad Taraki; Aeroflot Flight 821
Included: Calendar (New Style) Act 1750 (2nd appearance, last in 2012); Theodore Roosevelt (8th appearance, last in 2010); Pyotr Stolypin (2nd appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); Kumba Ialá (2nd appearance, last in 2012)
Repeats: Domitian (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 08:18, 13 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2015 notes

Omitted: Domitian; Theodore Roosevelt; Pyotr Stolypin; Kumba Ialá
Included: Harun al-Rashid (8th appearance, last in 2012); HMAS AE1 (first appearance); Elizabeth Ann Seton (2nd appearance, last in 2010; 40th anniversary); Northern Rock (3rd appearance, last in 2012)
Repeats: Calendar (New Style) Act 1750 (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total)

—howcheng {chat} 06:32, 12 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Gravitational waves

Apologies for the short notice on this suggestion, but 14 September marks the anniversary of the first detection of gravitational waves, and I wondered if this should be added to the list. --Lpmn (talk) 13:40, 13 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Because of WP:RECENT, we usually wait at least 2 years before running articles on OTD. So I'll put it in the staging area for next year. Thanks. —howcheng {chat} 16:50, 13 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Lpmn: Done. Would you mind checking the wording to make sure I got it right? Thanks. —howcheng {chat} 17:23, 13 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Howcheng: I think it's a little unusual to suggest that they were predicted by Poincaré (I'm not sure it's true, given that 1905 predates General Relativity by 10 years).

It's what the gravitational wave article says: In 1905 Henri Poincare first predicted gravitational waves (ondes gravifiques) emanating from a body and propagating at the speed of light as being required by the formalism of spacetime. —howcheng {chat} 22:27, 13 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

2016 notes

Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Isadora Duncan
New articles (unused): First observation of gravitational waves
Omitted: Feast of the Cross (ineligible—maintenance); Harun al-Rashid (ineligible—maintenance); Calendar (New Style) Act 1750 (ineligible—maintenance); HMAS AE1; Elizabeth Ann Seton (ineligible—maintenance); Northern Rock
Included: Domitian (3rd appearance, last in 2014); Fort Manoel (first appearance); Theodore Roosevelt (9th appearance, last in 2014); Bachir Gemayel (2nd appearance, last in 2012); Aeroflot Flight 821 (2nd appearance, last in 2013)

—howcheng {chat} 17:22, 13 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

2017 notes

Moved to Ineligible: Battle of Devil's Hole (date not cited); Pyotr Stolypin (maintenance); HMAS AE1 (maintenance)
New articles (unused): Ip massacre; Kate Millett
Omitted: Domitian (ineligible—maintenance); Fort Manoel; Theodore Roosevelt (ineligible—maintenance); Bachir Gemayel (ineligible—maintenance); Aeroflot Flight 821 (ineligible—maintenance)
Included: Battle of Islandbridge (first appearance); Calendar (New Style) Act 1750 (4th appearance, last in 2015; rescued from Ineligible); Isadora Duncan (2nd appearance, last in 2012; 90th anniversary; rescued from Ineligible); Totskoye nuclear exercise (2nd appearance, last in 2011; rescued from Ineligible); Northern Rock (4th appearance, last in 2015; 10th anniversary); Jeremiah Dummer (silversmith) (first appearance); Ponnambalam Arunachalam (first appearance); Faith Leech (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 16:34, 14 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2018 notes

Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Theodore Roosevelt; Croatian Republic of Herzeg-Bosnia
Omitted: Battle of Islandbridge; Isadora Duncan; Totskoye nuclear exercise; Northern Rock; Ponnambalam Arunachalam; Faith Leech
Included: Domitian (4th appearance, last in 2016; rescued from Ineligible); HMAS AE1 (2nd appearance, last in 2015; rescued from Ineligible); Ip massacre (first appearance); First observation of gravitational waves (first appearance); John Gould (first appearance); Pierre Savorgnan de Brazza (first appearance)
Repeats: Calendar (New Style) Act 1750 (2nd consecutive appearance, 5 total); Jeremiah Dummer (silversmith) (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 16:31, 14 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

2019 question

Hi Howcheng, can you please check 1979 item Nur Muhammad Taraki? Seems he was overthrown/detained, not assassinated, on 14 Sept ("resulting in Taraki's overthrow on 14 September 1979 and subsequent murder on 8 October"). Thanks, JennyOz (talk) 06:04, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2019 notes

Deleted: Luna 2 (moved to September 13)
New articles (unused): Benjamin Ingrosso
Omitted: Domitian; Calendar (New Style) Act 1750; HMAS AE1; Ip massacre; First observation of gravitational waves; Jeremiah Dummer (silversmith); John Gould; Pierre Savorgnan de Brazza
Included: Battle of Islandbridge (2nd appearance, last in 2017; 1100th anniversary); Fort Manoel (2nd appearance, last in 2016); Viannos massacres (first appearance); Nur Muhammad Taraki (3rd appearance, last in 2013; 40th anniversary); Kumba Ialá (3rd appearance, last in 2014); Constantine V (first appearance); Franz Bopp (first appearance); Kate Millett (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 15:57, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2020 notes

Moved to Ineligible: Isadora Duncan (maintenance)
New articles (ineligible): Hindi Divas (maintenance)
Omitted: Battle of Islandbridge; Viannos massacres; Nur Muhammad Taraki; Kumba Ialá; Franz Bopp; Kate Millett
Included: Calendar (New Style) Act 1750 (6th appearance, last in 2018); Ip massacre (2nd appearance, last in 2018; 80th anniversary); OPEC (7th appearance, last in 2010; 60th anniversary); Croatian Republic of Herzeg-Bosnia (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Jeremiah Dummer (silversmith) (3rd appearance, last in 2018; 375th birthday); Eduardo Castro Luque (first appearance)
Repeats: Fort Manoel (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total); Constantine V (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 16:38, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2021 notes

Moved to Ineligible: Totskoye nuclear exercise (maintenance)
Omitted: Fort Manoel; Calendar (New Style) Act 1750; Ip massacre; OPEC; Croatian Republic of Herzeg-Bosnia; Constantine V; Jeremiah Dummer (silversmith); Eduardo Castro Luque
Included: Domitian (5th appearance, last in 2018); Theodore Roosevelt (10th appearance, last in 2016); HMAS AE1 (3rd appearance, last in 2018); Abqaiq–Khurais attack (first appearance); Franz Bopp (2nd appearance, last in 2019); Paul Poberezny (first appearance; 100th birthday); Faith Leech (2nd appearance, last in 2017)

—howcheng {chat} 08:22, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2022 notes

Moved to Ineligible: James Fenimore Cooper (maintenance)
Omitted: Theodore Roosevelt; HMAS AE1; Abqaiq–Khurais attack; Franz Bopp; Paul Poberezny
Included: Fort Manoel (4th appearance, last in 2020); OPEC (8th appearance, last in 2020); Nur Muhammad Taraki (4th appearance, last in 2019); Croatian Republic of Herzeg-Bosnia (4th appearance, last in 2019; 30th anniversary); Constantine V (3rd appearance, last in 2020); Kate Millett (2nd appearance, last in 2019)
Repeats: Domitian (2nd consecutive appearance, 6 total); Faith Leech (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total)

—howcheng {chat} 17:05, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]