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The Bugle: Issue XCIV, January 2014

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I haven't heard anything till now. Maybe leave the SD folks a message a day or two before? I'm in Mira Mesa. Where would you want to meet? Feb 3rd mid afternoon would work. Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 23:01, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Anything happening with the meetup? Jim1138 (talk) 20:22, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue XCV, February 2014

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March 9 edit-a-thon at MOCA in downtown LA

LA Meetup: March 9 edit-a-thon at MOCA

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You have been invited to a meetup and edit-a-thon at the Museum of Contemporary Art in downtown Los Angeles on Sunday, March 9, 2014 from 11 am to 6 pm! This event is in collaboration with MOCA and the arts collective East of Borneo and aims to improve coverage of LA art since the 1980s. (Even if contemporary art isn't your thing, you're welcome to join too!) Please RSVP here if you're interested.

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Calliopejen1, unfortunately I will be unable to attend as I will be working that day. I hope the meetup goes well.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 07:55, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue XCVI, March 2014

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The Bugle: Issue XCVII, April 2014

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May 10 Asian Pacific American edit-a-thon in LA

LA Meetup: May 10 Asian Pacific American edit-a-thon

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You have been invited to a meetup and edit-a-thon at the Junipero Serra Branch of the LA Public Library (4607 S. Main St., 90037) on Saturday, May 10, 2014 from 10 am to 4 pm! This event is sponsored by the Smithsonian Asian Pacific American Center and the Asian Pacific American Librarians Association and aims to improve coverage of Asian Pacific American topics, particularly as they relate to southern California. Please RSVP here if you're interested.

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Smithsonian APA edit-a-thon May 10, 2014

FYI, just wanted to let you know about the Smithsonian APA edit-a-thon happening May 10, 2014. There are events in NYC, DC, Los Angeles, San Diego and Austin, TX. You can also work virtually, but just wanted to let you know, since you have been active on the Asian American projects. Thanks! -- Fuzheado | Talk 20:33, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

I would enjoy editing with everyone, but unfortunately, I have work. Maybe next time?--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 21:47, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
No worries, feel free to edit/add to the list, even if you cannot make an event. Thanks. -- Fuzheado | Talk 02:04, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

LA edit-a-thons on May 23 and 31

LA meetups: Adrianne Wadewitz memorial edit-a-thons on May 23 and May 31

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There are two LA edit-a-thons in memory of Adrianne Wadewitz, a prolific Wikipedia editor, in the coming weeks. Please join us May 23 at Occidental College and May 31 at the Institute of Cultural Inquiry to combat systemic bias and help further Adrianne's legacy. No experience needed! Please RSVP at the relevant page(s) if you plan to attend.

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The Bugle: Issue XCVIII, May 2014

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L.A. events on June 21 and July 6

Upcoming L.A. events: Unforgetting L.A. edit-a-thon (Saturday, June 21, 12-5pm) and Wiknic (Sunday, July 6, ~9:30am-4pm)

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Dear fellow Wikipedian,

The L.A. Wikipedia community has two exciting events coming up in the next few weeks: an edit-a-thon sponsored by the online magazine East of Borneo, and the fourth annual Los Angeles Wiknic!

The East of Borneo event is an edit-a-thon that aims to build a better history of art in Southern California. This next chapter of their Unforgetting L.A. series will take place on Saturday, June 21, 2014 from 12pm to 5pm at 356 S. Mission Rd. (map). Beginners welcome! Please RSVP here if you plan to attend. For more info, see eastofborneo.org/unforgetting.

The Wiknic is a part of the nationwide Great American Wiknic. We'll be grilling, getting to know each other better, and building the L.A. Wikipedia community! The event is tentatively planned for Pan-Pacific Park (map) and will be held on Sunday, July 6, 2014 from 9:30am to 4pm or so. Please RSVP and volunteer to bring food or drinks if possible!

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The Bugle: Issue XCIX, June 2014

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The Bugle: Issue C, July 2014

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Request for comment

As someone who has edited the article Asian American this year, I am seeking your input on a proposed change to remove a reference to epicanthic eyefolds. This topic has prompted discussion in 2009, 2010 and most recently in 2013.

There's a fine line between being WP:BOLD and subverting WP:CONSENSUS. Given the history of this topic, I'm hoping that a robust discussion, for the record, would improve the article whether this reference stays or goes. Ishu (talk) 13:58, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CI, August 2014

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Unforgetting L.A. edit-a-thon on September 6

Unforgetting L.A. edit-a-thon: Saturday, September 6 from 11am to 4pm

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You are invited to meet up with online magazine East of Borneo for an edit-a-thon to build a better history of art in Southern California. This next event in their Unforgetting L.A. series will take place on Saturday, September 6, 2014 from 11am - 4pm at the Armory Center for the Arts in Pasadena (map). Beginners welcome! Please RSVP here if you plan to attend. For more info, see eastofborneo.org/unforgetting.

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L.A. Meetup on September 21

The 20th Los Angeles meetup: Sunday, September 21 from 11am to 4pm

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Join us on Sunday, September 21, from 11am to 4pm at Kramer Studio in Mid-City (map) for a meetup and edit-a-thon! Get to know the Los Angeles Wikipedia community and do some editing (or learn to edit!) in a collaborative environment. Please RSVP and consider becoming a member of the SoCal task force to help us improve articles about everything in the region.

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September 11 Attacks RfC

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AFD for the Ted Cruz forked article

You need to finish the AFD process for that article, if that's the route you want to take. Right now, you've left it as a redlink. LHMask me a question 17:46, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

I am creating it right now.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 17:47, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
Ah, okay. Sorry for jumping the gun. LHMask me a question 17:52, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CII, September 2014

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Would you like to help me get this page up to date?

I saw you're very involved in the 'War On Terror' page. If you have time could you help me improve the 'Military History of the United States' page?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_the_United_States

It was woefully out of date. The last military action listed was the 2011 Libyan intervention. I added the Iraq/Syria intervention, but I was in a rush, so it needs more information, and perhaps some clean up with language and links If you have time, thanks. If not, no biggie. Downthewikiwormhole (talk) 00:29, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

"A Leading Man" movie page tagged for notability

Hello RightCowLeftCoast,

Could you please let me know what I need to do to fix the page for the film "A Leading Man"? I think you tagged it for concerns of notability. The premiere is going to take place on Wednesday September 24th and after that I may be able to add more information. The page was already approved by another Wikipedia editor. If you would help me I would greatly appreciate it. Please do not delete it.

Thank you,

Chelsea — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.71.193.130 (talk) 19:06, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Several things.
1) Please read WP:NF.
I differ from the opinion of the "another Wikipedia editor" on the film's ability to pass this notability guideline. I don't see it meeting much of the section "Other evidence of notability".
2) The article utilizes to a significant extent IMHO primary sources.
Utilize secondary and tertiary sources to show that the article meets WP:GNG at minimum.
Since as stated the article's subject hasn't been wide released yet, I am not taking the subject to WP:AFD, yet. However, if after a couple weeks my opinion has not changed, I will suggest the article for deletion.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 19:31, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank You so much! I will do that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.71.193.130 (talk) 19:41, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

RightCowLeftCoast,

Would you please re-review the "A Leading Man" film page to see if the notability issues have been fixed. I added two new sources and some more pictures. The film is also in theaters this weekend. Thank you very much.

From,

Clr65109 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clr65109 (talkcontribs) 17:35, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

I have looked at the page, and the page is not my concern. My concern remains regarding its ability to meet WP:NFILM. It has one review in a non-mainstream media source, and a smattering amount of coverage in "ethnic media". Therefore, IMHO it may meet WP:GNG, but may not meet the more stringent NFILM notability guideline. Thus my present opinion that it may be too soon for the article to exist in the mainspace, and potentially to save the work should be incubated until it can meet NFILM. It just made a wide release recently, so I will still give it time to see if it can gain more notability.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 18:10, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

L.A. events on October 7 and 16

Upcoming L.A. events: Wik-Ed Women edit-a-thon (10/7, 6-10pm) and UCR edit-a-thon (10/16, 10am-4pm)

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Your Google-foo is perhaps broken...

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This may call for a strikethrough and withdrawal before the weight of others makes it inevitable. Thanks, Schmidt, Michael Q. 13:45, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

And by the way... see WP:OEN. WP:NF's "attributes to consider" rarely apply to new films. Just sayin'. Schmidt, Michael Q. 13:56, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
And too, when a search term is so generic (such as "A Leading Man"), it is always important to expand search parameters... adding film year, writer, stars, etc. to get measurable results. Schmidt, Michael Q. 14:02, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

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About those words "joking" or "Kidding"...

I did mention that...along with the fact I was being more or less sympathetic to your argument? Please, don't jump down peoples throats.--86.190.145.114 (talk) 10:28, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

SoCal edit-a-thons on October 21 and 25

Upcoming SoCal edit-a-thons: UC Riverside (10/21, 10am-3pm) and Unforgetting L.A. (10/25, 9am-5pm)

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The Southern California Wikipedia community has two more events scheduled for the month of October: a water-related edit-a-thon at UC Riverside, and an Unforgetting L.A. event at the Los Angeles Archives Bazaar in conjunction with L.A. as Subject!

As part of Wikipedia Loves Libraries and to celebrate Open Access Week, UC Riverside is participating alongside other Western Waters Digital Library members in an edit-a-thon focusing on water issues. Join students and faculty learning how to edit! This event will take place on Tuesday, October 21 from 10am to 3pm at UCR's Orbach Science Library (map). RSVPs are requested here.

The Unforgetting L.A. edit-a-thon and training workshop will take place at the 9th annual Los Angeles Archives Bazaar, and is hosted by online magazine East of Borneo in partnership with L.A. as Subject. Join us on Saturday, October 25 from 9am to 5pm at the USC Doheny Memorial Library (map). Beginners welcome! Please RSVP here if you plan to attend.

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The Bugle: Issue CIII, October 2014

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African American article

Hi,

I appreciate your involvement in this article, but yesterday you said "I suggest WP:DROPTHESTICK, and move forward" and today we're right back to beating on this dead horse. My take is that there is one editor pushing the single-definition approach and a dozen editors are pushing for a balanced WP:NPOV definition that gives equal weight to both definitions. So why are we arguing this all over again? Mr. Swordfish (talk) 01:03, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

@Mr swordfish:, I did say that once a consensus has been created. The poll, and the related discussion may lead to more discussion, yet whatever outcome and consensus that is built from it will likely be stronger, given that more editors input will have been received. Therefore, if individuals try to overturn the outcome, they will need to show that consensus of the strength that is being built has significantly changed (less likely after such a consensus building has been done).--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 16:07, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
Ok. That makes sense. My own take is that there are two "common" definitions and the article should present them both in a neutral manner. If the sources taken as a whole indicate that one is more common than another then we can give more weight to that one, but so far I haven't seen enough source material to go there. The other thing I've been fairly confident about since getting involved with this is that the more eyeballs we have on this the more likely we will arrive at a reasonable result. So, thanks for helping spread the word. Perhaps an RFC is in order? If so, I think we need to trim the options to something like:
  • Present only the census (OMB) definition.
  • Present only the "antebellum" definition.
  • Present both making it clear that different sources give different definitions.
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Thank you

Thank you for notifying me about infobox discussion. I dont have any input at the moment other than I think it would be a good thing to increase the number of women presented. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 23:07, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

FilAm articles

I want to compliment you on the wonderfully informative and insightful job that you have done on the Filipino-American themed articles!! It would be nice to include more coverage on the vibrant and culturally active Pinoy and Pinay communities in the NYC/NJ Tri-State region. As you would know (better than I would, certainly), there are bona fide Little Manilas in Woodside, Queens; Jersey City, NJ; and Bergenfield, NJ; in addition to many other sprouting Filipino subenclaves across the region. This community appears to be incurring a recent growth spurt, and I believe that the presence and powerful impact of this community appear to be under-reflected in Wikipedia. Even Philippine Airlines is apparently preparing to return to the NYC region as a destination, this time to JFK Airport, within a few months!

Incidentally, is the table of Filipino American populations by state, at Demographics of Filipino Americans#Population concentrations, a count of mid-census estimates (2012, 2013, etc.)? I could not find the figures in American Fact Finder.
Thank you again for all of your efforts on this topic, and keep up the great work!!

Best, Castncoot (talk) 00:49, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

@Castncoot:Thanks for the positive words. I too have spent time as a FilAm in Queens, and would like to see more content regarding FilAms in NY/NYC/NJ, if yourself or others can expand the section Demographics of Filipino Americans#New York City metropolitan area, with content verified using reliable sources, that would be very helpful. Unfortunately I haven't found many reliable sources to use to expand this section of the article.
As for the Population concentrations, it is based on the 2010 Census count, the last hard count on record, and thus more accurate than the yearly population estimations put out by the Census Bureau.
If you're interested in helping expand Filipino American related content there is always WP:WPAA, which is semi-active at the moment (but whose scope is greater than just Filipino Americans).--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 01:10, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
@RightCowLeftCoast: Thank you for your reply! Is the population concentrations table inclusive of biracial Filipino Americans? For example, @[1], then proceeding to the "Demographic profile" link for 2010 Census figures, the figure quoted for Filipino Americans of a single race in Hawaii is 197,497, while the Wikipedia article states 342,095. Castncoot (talk) 01:30, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
@Castncoot:, yes it includes multiracial Filipino Americans. This is important, IMHO, given the high rate of multiracial marriages of Filipino Americans, and the Filipino Americans that are born of those marriages.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 01:33, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
@RightCowLeftCoast: OK, thank you very much! Castncoot (talk) 02:02, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
@Castncoot:, is it possible that these wonderful complements can come in a form of a barnstar, so that way I can add it to my userpage?--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 02:12, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
Just added the proposal. Castncoot (talk) 02:27, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 02:33, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

@Castncoot: Good work in expanding the NYC metro section article. That being said the scope of the article, being a sub-article of the primary Filipino American article, is on demographics. History explaining where Filipinos live is necessary in explaining present population locations, but some of the content added might better be used elsewhere on Wikipedia. For instance the sentence

Philippine Airlines, which had provided service to Newark Liberty International Airport in the 1990s prior to discontinuation of this service due to financial difficulties, is preparing to resume service to the NYC region in March 2015, this time utilizing JFK International Airport as its gateway.

might be better used int he article about Philippine Airlines
The sentence here

The Philippine-American Community of Bergen County (PACBC) organization is based in Paramus,[104] while other Filipino associations are based in Fair Lawn[105][96] and Bergenfield.[106] Bergen County's vibrant and culturally active Filipino community repatriated significant financial assistance to victims of Typhoon Haiyan, which ravaged the Philippines in November 2013.[96]

Might better be improved by not naming PACBC specifically, just stating that FilAm organizations exist there. Also the remittance sent back to the Philippines for aid relief, might be better off in the article on Typhoon Haiyan; also since not only FilAms in the NYC metro area gave aid to the Philippines after that natural disaster, perhaps this information can be added to information of the Filipino diaspora giving aid as a whole, or at least the diaspora in the U.S.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 22:00, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
Sorry to check in so late, I've been busy with real life today...will take your suggestions and modify the language, thanks. Castncoot (talk) 04:25, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(sports)#Bullpen_catchers Alex (talk) 05:48, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Philippine Commonwealth forces category issue

I've copied the justification for inclusion of the Philippine Commonwealth forces category onto the Talk:Philippines Campaign (1941–42) page. I did not revert the other page you reverted because your suggestion on categories certainly has merit. On the other hand, the total neglect of Philippine force categories in articles dealing with battles and a campaign in which the totality of that force was engaged, instead of fractions as were U.S. Army, Navy and Marine forces engaged, needs to be dealt with. So, let's call my revert on one page a "Hello? We need to deal with this." What I'd like to see, though I'm hesitant to leave other interests for what is going to be an editor's nightmare, is a good way to integrate the U.S. centric categories now and improve those Philippine articles. I have a big library of references, digital and otherwise, so I'd certainly be willing to pitch in on that. Palmeira (talk) 00:59, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

(edit conflict)I have already replied, and I requested that WP:Tambayan see our discussion as well.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 01:03, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
Good idea. Maybe we can get them involved in improving those force articles as well! I'm actually typing a long comment on your page now (looking for a link). Near real time? Palmeira (talk) 01:22, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
Oops. The reply in progress was on Talk:Philippines Campaign (1941–42). Too many tabs open! Palmeira (talk) 01:27, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Sahlberg

I don't really understand your first sentence - probably my fault. Peridon (talk) 17:32, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

L.A. event on November 11, and a new Facebook group

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Thank you for kind comment on my talk page. If you're aware of other California populated places which need updates to their infobox data or elected representatives, feel free to point them out to me. I've got plans to work through the entire state systematically, but that's a huge project which I won't finish this year, so I might as well focus on the articles people care most about.—Stepheng3 (talk) 21:08, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

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DYK for Battle of Baguio (1945)

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DYK for William McLeroy

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