User talk:Just Chilling/Archive 5

Help

Heya, Sureshmaran (talk · contribs) is adding a lot of spam to various articles like Sengunthar, Mudaliar, etc. I engaged him in discussion and proved him wrong at least 3 times. I believe he also uses aliases and alternate accounts like Pallavacholasengunthar (talk · contribs) and Chola_and_sengunthars (talk · contribs). Also, he spawns duplicate articles like Chola and sengunthars (a dupe of Sengunthar). Recently, he deleted a whole section of the Mudaliar article [1]. Can you warn him or give the article some kind of protection? If you cannot address these issues please direct me to the appropriate authorities who can help alleviate my concerns?

Cheers, ShivNarayanan (talk) 04:41, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

OK, I have had a good look at the situation and I can see the problems. However, I don't think that direct action by me is appropriate at the moment. The way forward is to place templated warnings for clear infractions of policy, and you are best placed to action this. The basic warnings, and guidance on their use, can be found at WP:Vandalism. Further templates, including some suitable for spam, can be found here. With regard to Chola and sengunthars, if you are certain that the content duplicates that at Sengunthar, then the way forward is to simply redirect the page to Sengunthar. In order to deal with the possible sockpuppetry then you should report the situation at Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets. If you are unhappy with these suggestions then you can get a second opinion at WP:AN. TerriersFan (talk) 19:48, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Heya, Thank you for the help. I have filed the sockpuppetry case [2]. Please review the case and give your opinion too. Cheers ShivNarayanan (talk) 06:11, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Schools

• Blussuvoll School

Here's a challenging one for you. ☺ Uncle G (talk) 00:26, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Burger School for Students with Autism

The article is updated. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 06:17, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Westwood High School (Michigan)

Thanks for expanding this article. I'm not really sure why it was nominated at AfD, but it's nice that people (you and user: Jerry) stepped up to fix it up a bit. ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:41, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

My recent afd's

Hi, I am a fairly new editor and I guess I had misconceptions of what goes to afd and not. Your comments on all mine are 'not the place for merge'. Where can I find such a place? I only added academic colleges of universities which in themselves are notable while the larger university IS. I was just following practices at WP:N and WP:UNI. 16x9 (talk) 15:31, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Merges are editorial matters. The way forward is to tag the source and destination pages and produce a place for discussion. Guidance can be obtained at WP:MERGE. TerriersFan (talk) 18:23, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't want to sound like I want to rush things but I have seen some merge "discussions" (or lack there of) go for week/months... Does a AfD not produce somewhat of that same discussion or is there a place to discuss mergers in more broad manner? I will start using merge in the future I am still getting my feet wet, but recovering from getting bitten lately. Thanks 16x9 (talk) 02:00, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Your AFD comments

I saw some of your recent afd comments in which you said that afd is not the place to request mergers. That's all nice and well, but you might like that add that things that aren't independently notable can be suitable encyclopedic content in the context of a larger article (thus supporting a merge). - Mgm|^(talk) 23:44, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

I think his or her point was that the articles in question shouldn't be put up at AfD, but instead should have merger discussions on the talk pages. Basically saying that articles that are not independently notable, should be merged and not deleted ie. AfD is not the place to discuss mergers. ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:18, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

List of osteopathic colleges

Thanks for finding the articles and reformatting those without. How are you determining when to add a college that doesn't specialize in osteopathic medicine? --Ronz (talk) 21:03, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

If the institution awards a recognised osteopathic qualification then it should be listed. I haven't checked whether this is the case with all the non-specialised colleges so there may be scope for some pruning. TerriersFan (talk) 21:24, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Sounds good. I'm going to bring it up on the article talk page. It should at some point be added to the article itself. Thanks again. --Ronz (talk) 21:28, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

You're way ahead of me, I see. --Ronz (talk) 21:29, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

good redirect

just FWIW, I agree totally with your redirect for Schooled DGG (talk) 04:10, 2 January 2009 (UTC).

Thank you; I appreciate that. TerriersFan (talk) 04:12, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Witch Trial

Hey Terriers fan, why the heck did you delete the wiki entry for the game Witch Trial by CheapAss Games? That is a great game with great artwork. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.196.149.173 (talk) 18:45, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I deleted this page as an expired Prod - the procedure is explained at WP:PROD. At your request I have restored the article at Witch Trial (game). However, as a procedural matter I have put the page up for a deletion discussion and you now have five days to convince the Community that the article should be kept. You may wish to comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Witch Trial (game). In this regard, WP:N, WP:RS and WP:CITE may assist. TerriersFan (talk) 21:34, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Banksia Park International High School

I would wager that this article is going to survive AfD with flying colors! However, it appears to me that two of the awards mentioned in the article (one that I found and one that you found) may actually be the same thing (see article talk page). If you know of any schools-related contributors in Australia, maybe they can help sort this out... --Orlady (talk) 00:45, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Good catch. I have reworked the section - does it now look right to you? TerriersFan (talk) 01:06, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

I made a couple more tweaks -- then lost my connection for a few hours. And now the AfD is already closed as "keep". --Orlady (talk) 04:47, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Pointiness in Launceston - help request

Hi, TF
I stumbled across Riverside High School (Launceston) AfD and made a few edits before you tidied them (for which, my sincere thanks), and added your ref. The whole thing looks very pointy to me. An article has been tagged, then post facto, reasons for the tag have have had to been found. In my opinion, the majority these are simply casuistry.
The Tasmanian secondary education system is unusual in Australia in that most government "high schools" are in fact grade 7-10, and the highest level of secondary schooling is grade 11-12 "Senior secondary colleges." The deletionists are, of course, correct in their assertion that (a) any high school is not automatically notable, and (b) as 7-10 schools are not the highest level of secondary schools, they fail notability criteria unless they are notable in and of themselves. Were this to applied with any kind of rigorous consistency, most Tasmanian 7-10 state schools (and most non-state 7-10 schools) should be speedied, and all of the Tasmanian Senior Colleges should have their notability scrutinised.
I have contributed to the AfD, but consensus will and must prevail. If the consensus results in a delete...
I seek your advice - as an Admin and a member of WikiProject Schools - about where to go from here. Your help and guidance sincerely appreciated!
--Shirt58 (talk) 10:20, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

I hope you don't mind me butting in here, but the current WP:SPEEDY criteria exempt schools from A7/lack of any statement of notability. There is a discussion on the matter at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Schools/Criteria for Speedy Deletion A7 but it seems to be going stale at the moment. How Australian 7-10 schools have fared in AFDs would be valuable input to that discussion. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 14:36, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

The terms 'automatically notable' and 'inherently notable' are loaded and cause some editors to apoplectic fits. Consequently, they are best avoided. However, public high schools are invariably kept because there is general acceptance, though not unanimity, that sufficient sources can always be found. It should be noted that reliable sources can be documents from the local library; they don't need to be on Google. The fact that this school educates to Grade 10 is sufficient, in my view, to class it as a high school. Tasmania is not unique in this respect; many high schools in the UK also only educate to age 16, the equivalent of Grade 10, and for many students is their highest level of education. As a BTW the notability tag should be removed if the page is kept. I am not sure how well this answers your question so please feel free to ask me supplementaries :-) TerriersFan (talk) 03:13, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

More about Launceston High School

I'm in agreement with you that high schools are inherently notable, and you usually do a great job in defending those articles when they're nominated; indeed, I give you the credit for articulating the arguments that, in 2007, gave the high schools inherent notability treatment on Wikipedia. For that reason, I'll have to say that I am surprised if you believe that this Australian 7th to 10th grade school is similar to an American high school. To a lesser extent than the U.S. and Britain, the U.S. and Australia are still separated by a common language. What they refer to as a "college" is what we call a "high school" -- their colleges serve the function of being the school district's highest level of education and confers what we call a "high school diploma", but what they refer to as the "certificate of education". Anyway, I hope you won't take offense (or offence) at my making this observation. Best wishes. Mandsford (talk) 02:06, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi, good points that I'll reflect on; thanks. TerriersFan (talk) 02:56, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

AfD outcome? Game, set and match to just plain common sense--Shirt58 (talk) 11:04, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Our Lady and St Margaret's

Thanks for pointing me to the reference. I responded on the AfD page. --Orlady (talk) 18:35, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

RfA thankspam

		Thank you for your participation in my recent RfA, which failed with 90/38/3; whether you supported, opposed or remained neutral. Special thanks go out to Moreschi, Dougweller and Frank for nominating me, and I will try to take everyone's comments on board. Thanks again for your participation. I am currently concentrating my efforts on the Wikification WikiProject. It's fun! Please visit the project and wikify a few articles to help clear the backlog. If you can recruit some more participants, then even better. Apologies if you don't like RfA thankspam, this message was delivered by a bot which can't tell whether you want it or not. Feel free to remove it. Itsmejudith (talk), 22:54, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Denbot (talk) 22:54, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Country Tracks chart → Hot Country Songs

I think you missed the point of the RFD. "Country Tracks" is misleading since RPM, a Canadian magazine, actually did have a chart called Country Tracks. Therefore, I've retarged the redirect to RPM (magazine). Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 15:45, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Please don't assume that I am not capable of understanding a discussion. Your arguments were considered but did not find acceptance at RFD. I have therefore restored the agreed target. If not happy, the way forward is to take it to WP:DRV. TerriersFan (talk) 17:59, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Okay, sorry for talking to you that way. I tend to be a little snippy at times. Anyway, I've mentioned the chart in the RPM article, do you now think it's worthy of a retarget? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 20:05, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

OK, the retarget can stand. TerriersFan (talk) 01:48, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

blenheim high school

the story about the exclusion is true, it just isnt a story on any website or anything else so it CANT be cited or sourced

as i am a student there myself, i know what happened —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bloons (talk • contribs) 13:06, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

If it can't be sourced and verified it can't be included in this encyclopedia. ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:09, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Precisely. I have removed the content which must not be re-added without proper sourcing. TerriersFan (talk) 01:54, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Kospint

Hi, thank you for closing the AfD. However, I have completed the close. If you check the article/talk page you will see the additional steps needed. HTH. TerriersFan (talk) 17:30, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

• Thanks for your note but I did what was required:- [3]. Paste _{Let’s have a chat.} 17:41, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

• Hi, sorry to labour this one but just to clarify. I removed the AfD notice from the article here and the oldafdfull is placed on the target not the redirect as here. TerriersFan (talk) 02:20, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

• Ah! I'm with you now, thanks. Paste _{Let’s have a chat.} 07:40, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

UMSON Living History Museum

In this edit a new account has recreated University of Maryland School of Nursing Living History Museum which you recently merged and redirected to University of Maryland, Baltimore. Unfortunately the recreated article reads like advertising copy. The account in question is UMSONMuseum (talk · contribs). I'm not quite sure what happens now, so I thought I'd ask you here. Cheers, Basie (talk) 01:41, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

I have redirected it again. If it is recreated then AfD it. TerriersFan (talk) 11:48, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Basie (talk) 23:31, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Regarding your changes to School (disambiguation)

They have been reverted by two editors (myself included). It would be best if you looked at my edit summary. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 04:55, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Bignay, Valenzuela City

A tag has been placed on Bignay, Valenzuela City, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

No context

Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not meet basic Wikipedia criteria may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as an appropriate article, and if you can indicate why the subject of this article is appropriate, you may contest the tagging. To do this, add {{hangon}} on the top of the page and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm its subject's notability under the guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Johnlemartirao (talk) 14:47, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Please refrain from pointless deletion requests; designated administrative areas are always notable. TerriersFan (talk) 22:08, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Doing It Right

Can you redirect DIR diving to Doing It Right? -- Basilicofresco (msg) 12:05, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Done. TerriersFan (talk) 22:09, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Linda Fisher/{{Lifetime}}

Just an FYI for future reference, {{Lifetime}}, if properly completed, sorts, so DEFAULTSORT is not required as well. – ukexpat (talk) 21:25, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Neat! Thanks! TerriersFan (talk) 21:29, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Deletion

Hey mate, why did you delete my aticle?. It was a completely true good article, it was not silly or gibberish etc etc. please respond on my talk page

Thank you,

Bushey001

P.S please can you un delte because it was perfectly good and sensible. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bushey001 (talk • contribs) 21:59, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

I like it.

That's probably what I should have done in the first place. When I saw the title, I thought it may have been a sponsored semi-pro team, not a youth team. After I restored it, I saw the layout and the, well, lack of notability. Sorry to have done an end run around you. Thanks for deleting it again. I wish more new users would read the rules before they blow up on my talk page...PMDrive1061 (talk) 22:34, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

thank you

thank you for the information mate and explaining why it was deleted. thanks dude

 bushey001  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bushey001 (talk • contribs) 17:04, 25 February 2009 (UTC) 

BTW, I should probably call your attention to Bushey's talk page, with special attention to this diff.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 19:49, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

merging content

When content on an article is not sourced and not notable why merge it to another unsourced non notable academic college article? In my view I would be endorsing condoning the content of the first page if I merged it. thoughts? 16x9 (talk) 05:30, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

If you are concerned about the notability of the target then that is a matter that should be dealt with separately. Meanwhile, the point about Colvin Institute of Real Estate Development is not that it is unsourced but that there is useful, mergeable, information that can be sourced. For example here. TerriersFan (talk) 16:12, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Fatty

Why did you call me fatty? ps:please reply on my page thanx, bushey —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bushey001 (talk • contribs) 20:03, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

I didn't; you made the edit yourself, here. TerriersFan (talk) 22:52, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

please leave me alone.If you feel the need to reply, do it on my talk page —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bushey001 (talk • contribs)

Problem (posted 04/03/08)

Thank you very much for your contributions to the Tunbridge Wells Grammar School for Boys. Most of the information you have added is fantastic and you have preserved the page on Wikipedia for the future, for which I am personally grateful, having added much information to it in the past. However, the information you have added about Ofsted is wrong, as I think on a couple of occasions throughout the page, you have referred to the wrong school. I corrected the address for the school a couple of days ago after having seen a slightly inaccurate address, and obviously this must have been the address of the school you have on occasion incorrectly referred to. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackarias (talk • contribs) 12:59, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks; I'll fix it tonight. TerriersFan (talk) 16:40, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

• I've fixed it. Regards--Paste _{Let’s have a chat.} 16:49, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

re:Hickory Flat Elementary

Hello! Are schools inherently notable?--It's me...Sallicio!^{$\color {Red}\oplus$} 00:38, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi, schools are not inherently notable. However, they are exempt from deletion under CSD A7 - this is stated on the template. The accepted practice is that elementary schools are merged into their school district (or locality outside the US) unless they have a specific claim to notability, for example as a Blue Ribbon school. High schools are considered notable because sources are invariably available that meet WP:ORG. HTH. TerriersFan (talk) 17:20, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!--It's me...Sallicio!^{$\color {Red}\oplus$} 23:42, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Greenfields School

I have posted a query to you, at the AfD discussion page. Cirt (talk) 17:36, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Admin request

Will you please delete Vision Forum (currently a redirect to Vision Forum Ministries). Move User:American Eagle/Vision Forum into the now deleted page. Undelete the old history of Vision Forum. Finally, delete the new redirect User:American Eagle/Vision Forum. I had the page moved into my userspace for repair, but now the history is on that page, and I don't want it as a subpage, so the history should be moved into the correct article. Thank you. TheAE talk/sign 19:13, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Done. TerriersFan (talk) 19:20, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion of Shiloh Halladay

I would like to understand why you deleted the profile of Shiloh Halladay. I can provide websites for it, as well as that is myself, and I request politely that you restore this profile. 4.190.208.146 (talk) 21:45, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

I deleted your page because there was no indication that she has any importance or significance. Existing, and having a website, is not enough to support a page; notability must also be shown. Guidance is given at WP:BIO. Unless you can provide sources to indicate that she is notable I am, regretfully, not prepared to restore the page. If you wish to pursue it further then you have the right to appeal at WP:DRV. TerriersFan (talk) 23:09, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Suttons Spring Wood

Just curious, since when are places automatically "controversial" when it comes to their deletion? Sutton Spring Wood clearly and uncontroversially presented no claim to notability and as such does not belong on Wikipedia. It's a small neighborhood of five houses that claims no historical or literary significance. While the guidelines for notability of a place have not actually been adopted yet (and probably won't be for quite some time), there's no way in a million years that this article would pass any eventually adopted form of them. No secondary sources, nothing more than five houses, and no significance to anyone. It even claims itself to not be known to those who live close by. If that's the case, why would anyone ever go to Wikipedia looking for it? Anywho, since you disagreed with it being prod-able I've taken it to AfD. If you want to share your two cents, it's here. KhalfaniKhaldun 04:21, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

There is currently a school of thought that all defined geographic areas are notable. I don't have a position on this general proposition or this specific page. However, Prods are for non-controversial deletions and, in my view, places should go straight to AfD. TerriersFan (talk) 19:58, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Royal School Hampstead

Hello and thank you for rescuing my article. It was deleted on Saturday and I just got here today to see that it has been created by yourself. I am going to alter one small detail: Ms Ebner is divorced now, and does no longer wish to be known as Ebner-Landy. I am unsure as to what happens here on wikipedia, but I feel mighty discouraged by the speedy deletion situation. This is why I tend not to visit or contribute very often. So anyway, thanks again, and if you don't mind I will make that small edit. Luckyles (talk) 11:18, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I have removed the head's title - we don't generally include title's on Wikipedia. The criteria for inclusion of organisations is meeting WP:ORG. However, high schools are generally considered notable. The key requirement for content is that it should be reliably sourced and objective not promotional. Please don't give up on Wikipedia; there are plenty of editors, like me, who want to see the content expanded and I should be happy to help you, as required. TerriersFan (talk) 19:58, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

WP:SCHOOL

What do you think of this http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Notability_(schools)&curid=14392323&diff=279439345&oldid=234243066 ? I have a quarrelsome past with this user on a completely unrelated matter and would rather not open another venue. I have concerns about some of the specific wordings of the proposal and frankly think that WP:N is best suited to cover the notability issues but agree with the suggestions of redirecting to districts and localities when insufficient sources exist for an article. I probably agree with marking it an essay that represents some viewpoints but I have not given it a great deal of thought. Somebody should give it some thought though. DoubleBlue (talk) 21:06, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for alerting me to this. In fact, any editor can write an essay so whether this is converted into an essay or the same text is used as an essay with a slightly different title actually doesn't matter. Either way, the page reflects what happens in practice in AfDs so I thnk that it is a valid subject for an essay. TerriersFan (talk) 01:40, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Do you think it's valid to refer to the essay in a deletion discussion? I think it's a good guideline to have when the subject is specifically the notability of a given school. Radiopathy •talk• 01:57, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Essays, of course, have no policy status. However, in an AfD they act as an excellent shorthand to summarise the views of a commentating editor to avoid having to spell out established positions in detail. TerriersFan (talk) 02:58, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Clean-up help on Nesh

Please, can you please help clean-up a page you created, Nesh. If you have any questions, please contact me on my talk page. Thank you. --The New Mikemoral ♪♫ 00:06, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your interest. I have removed the deadend anhd section tags since neither of which, with respect, were valid. The remainder of the article is vastly better sourced than very many WP pages but by all means suggest improvements on the talk page. TerriersFan (talk) 01:26, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

You are welcome. Just to let you know, the main improvement needed it that is to list-like; it needs more prose. --The New Mikemoral ♪♫ 00:36, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Croatian-Australian Socceroos‎

Hey there, before I take it to DRV I have started a discussion at WP:FOOTBALL. Regards, GiantSnowman 20:21, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't like accusations of "forum shopping", and I certainly don't like having my comments to other users superceded by yours - I am simply trying to find the best way to get this issue sorted, and avoiding having to go to DRV if possible - it is, as I have pointed out at EAR, meant to be a last resort. GiantSnowman 21:27, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

"I certainly don't like having my comments to other users superceded by yours". Your comments were not superseded. It is important that the admins you have consulted were aware of the discussions that you have started in at least two forums. TerriersFan (talk) 21:35, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

All the discussions are similar in content, and because I have directed them to the first discussion at WP:FOOTBALL, which also lists subsequent discussions, I felt that to be sufficent for them. Regards, GiantSnowman 21:38, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Terriersfan wow what the heck??

Dave Rinehart-- he was an olympic runner for fort hill highschool and also has the record for the 2 mile run at fort hill he has had it 41 years and qualified for the olympic 25 years ago my edit was not spam.... you should have said something before you reverted my edit.... please comment back ASAP —Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidkool62 (talk • contribs) 02:20, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Johns Hopkins, Bologna Center

Hi Terriersfan, I thought I might flag up this conversation going on here, User_talk:Izno#Johns_Hopkins.2C_Bologna_Center as you may be interested. Cesariano (talk) 12:53, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Need some advice on an article

A user has created an article, Medieval stained glass. I originally redirected it to Stained glass, but the editor in question then expanded the article. My question is, should I redirect the article again to stained glass, leave it alone, or create a link from the stained glass article to this particular one? CardinalDan (talk) 21:31, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

I agree that this is an unnecessary duplication. My suggestion is to approach the creator on his talk page, explain the duplication, and invite him to add the sourced content to 'Stained glass'. If he declines then I would use mergeto/mergefrom tags to attempt to build a consensus. TerriersFan (talk) 22:02, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Afd on Charis School

It was suggested to be merge with Marikina City. I created the page and was hoping to get it pass the NPOV tag. The Phil. Schools follows the same cycle as that of Holy Spirit Integrated School. First Permit Phase and then Government Recognition. Xapis (talk) 07:56, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

It has been sourced that Holy Spirit Integrated School is a high school. For Charis, you need to be able to source that it now has high school classes. TerriersFan (talk) 17:06, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi! No active link on that site to cite it as a high school "Antipolo Services - Schools"], —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xapis (talk • contribs) 17:23, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Request for access to deleted material

You seem to be the admin who deleted Pet Society (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) most recently. As this is the most popular[4] application currently on Facebook, I think there's good chance that the article may meet our inclusion criteria. I would therefore appreciate if you either undeleted it outright or moved it with all revisions to my user space. In either case I will attempt to make it acceptable according to our usual standards. __meco (talk) 19:56, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Userfied at User:Meco/Pet Society. TerriersFan (talk) 20:11, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Appreciated. __meco (talk) 22:55, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

As you will notice I have moved the article back into main namespace with a few, however crucial, changes. __meco (talk) 08:42, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Montford Middle School

Thanks for spending some time with the Montford Middle School redirect. I'm not unhappy as long as the circular link is fixed. I have a hunch that someone will tidy it up, though, to make it all look like the list that that portion of the article basically is, and the issue will re-surface. Then, again, maybe not. I'll cross my fingers. Tim Ross (talk) 17:28, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

I have now added a hidden comment to the target to explain the situation. TerriersFan (talk) 17:32, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Excellent way to take care of it! Thanks. Tim Ross (talk) 21:19, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Because?

Porque lo transformaron al articulo si no tiene nada de malo?. Siempre recibi alabaciones por la actividad de importacia del artículo en Wikipedia, ya que tiene razones para hacerlo. No lo borren porque no tiene nada de malo, y no tendría sentido, y repongan el artículo TAL COMO ESTABA Y NO ME INTERESA QUE NO QUIERAN. Muchas gracias --ervinnnnnnn 01:20, 25 April 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ruuta 25 (talk • contribs)

I am sorry, but if you wish to have a conversation you will need to write in English. TerriersFan (talk) 19:33, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

M. m. melampus

Here is the text you entered for the article, if you want to add it to the Japanese Marten article. Hiberniantears (talk) 20:46, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

The M. m. melampus is a mammal of the genus Martes. It is a marten [[5]] - a type of Japanese Marten [[6]] (Martes Melampus).

It lives on several of the Japanese Islands.

Conservation status = LC (Least concern)

elementary schools in AFD

In hindsight, do you think I should have been bold and merged most/all of those schools instead? I tend to figure the AFD is necessary if it has more than a dozen words, but that could just be me. You seem to understand the wpschools world fairly well, which is why I'm wondering your thoughts. tedder (talk) 01:14, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

The short answer is yes. When such schools are prodded, rather than AfD'd, then I tend to boldly merge most of them. The consensus with primary/middle schools is to merge them to the school district (North America) or the lowest available locality page (elsewhere). The exception is when there is a reasonable claim to notability. For example, Blue Ribbon schools (US), Ofsted Grade 1 (UK). The problem with Canadian schools is that they tend to have a poor web profile. Consequently, where there is a reasonable claim to notability (as in my view with three of your noms) my approach is that they should be kept to allow local sources to be found. (Though, in theory, a deleted article can be recreated in practice it rarely happens). HTH. TerriersFan (talk) 15:02, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks- and good to know. I'll boldly merge next time instead. tedder (talk) 15:23, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

FWIW, I just wanted to follow up and say thanks for your work on Harriet Eddy Middle School. Great work improving it. tedder (talk) 00:12, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Proposed Change

Hi TerriersFan – I posted a Proposed Change on the Glen Raven, Inc. page. I have not received a response from anyone and I am interested in getting your feedback since it appears you are the editor who placed the COI on the article. Please advise on my talk page. Thank you for your help! Knh1314 (talk) 17:43, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Hello again, I just wanted to follow up with you and see if you have any suggestions on how I can get changes made to the Glen Raven, Inc. page so the COI can be removed. Thank you again for your help! Knh1314 (talk) 15:46, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for this timely reminder. Unfortunately, the redraft still suffers from the original problem which is that it lacks reliable, secondary sources to stand up the various claims: "The first flag implanted on the moon in 1969 was made with Glen Raven fabric.", "Glen Raven produced parachute fabrics throughout World War II,", "Glen Raven was one of the first companies to adopt synthetic fibers ...", etc - see WP:PSTS and WP:RS. What is being looked for are independent sources. The redraft also suffers from peacock phrases such as "Glen Raven has been a leader in the textiles industry throughout its history.", "Sunbrella fabrics today are a leader for awnings ...", "a manufacturer of ... high performance fabrics." which cannot be included unless sourced independently. Perhaps you might like to source up a section and get back to me for a view? HTH. TerriersFan (talk) 18:51, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

License tagging for File:Madeleine McCann age progression image.jpg

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Fixed my close

Thanks! Tim Vickers (talk) 22:37, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Carrom ball

Hello, I wonder if you could clear up the mess I've made there. I was trying to turn 'Ball' into 'ball'... Rothorpe (talk) 16:38, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi, done. I have also fixed the 'cricket deliveries' template. TerriersFan (talk) 20:24, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Great, thanks. Rothorpe (talk) 20:27, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Big Creek High School

Didn't realize you were working on it, Construction tag was an edit conflict. I've done what I set out to do, to remove the some of the blatant copyright vios and rephrase. I haven't been able to find refs for some of the statements, so I've tagged. All yours now. -SpacemanSpiff (talk) 18:21, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

delsort FYI

• Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Schools#Current organization

Just making sure you are aware of this discussion. tedder (talk) 18:36, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Thx for the heads up. TerriersFan (talk) 02:50, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Schools in Worcestershire

Hi Terriersfan, you seem to be an expert on schools so I need some advice; i'm currently reviewing all the school articles for our new Wikipedia:WikiProject Worcestershire. Although I am an inclusionist rather than a deletionist, but there are some articles about UK Middle schools that have clearly been posted by probably in good faith by anonymous adolescents. They clearly do not meet Wiki standards but with a bit of work they could be improved. However I am loath to do that if they will be AfDd later because they are Middle schools and lack notability. Should I AfD them straight away?. Any advice welcome.--Kudpung (talk) 08:40, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

As you allude, secondary schools are considered notable but primary and middle schools are not. The exception is where the school has had an Ofsted grade 1 overall assessment so in each case the Ofsted reports need to be checked. If the middle school doesn't meet this criterion then the normal practice is to merge the key facts into the lowest level locality article. This certainly doesn't require an AfD; simply boldly carry out the merge. So that the new target can be found it would also be helpful if you linked from List of schools in Worcestershire. Please get back to me if you want more guidance or have a query on the notability of a specific school. TerriersFan (talk) 17:23, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Standard section headers

Hm, can you give me the example you were looking at, please? Doesn't look like the MoS has changed (although it has a number of problems), maybe I need to bring it up with the AWB team, but if it was one of the fixes to Category:Pages with missing references list then it's probably something of mine. Rich Farmbrough, 00:50, 10 August 2009 (UTC).

Ah sorry, yes that is correct. "See also" refers to other WP articles, WP:layout states that the internal links come before the external - which includes refernces, bibliography etc,. Though it waxes a little over-lyrical on reasons for "External links" to be last. Rich Farmbrough, 01:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC).

The John Fisher School

Hi TerriersFan. I often see your work on school articles; you do a great job. I have a request for you, if you could find the time and inclination. The John Fisher School has been suffering an edit war for a long time now. It should be readily apparent what the problem is; there is some discussion on the talk page, and there's been some on my talk page. I've tried to intervene a bit, but I feel that what the article really needs is the addition of one of your excellent Ofsted report summaries. In fact anything you could do for this article, especially with a view to stopping the edit war, would be appreciated. Thanks. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 12:00, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Concord High School (Sydney)

I think Concord High School (Sydney) is a hoax. A Google search returns no mentions about this Australian school. The best I could find was this (RateMyTeachers), which could have been a made-up entry. Should I bring this article to AfD? Cunard (talk) 01:02, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Never mind. The school exists; my Google search was in error. Cunard (talk) 01:07, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

RfD nomination of St marks school hong kong

I have nominated St marks school hong kong (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) for discussion as you suggested. Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2009 August 28#St marks school hong kong. Cheers, Bazj (talk) 09:11, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Fuzhou No. 3 Middle School

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Cass City Public Schools

The article on the Cass City Public Schools seems to include several schools that are not part of the district and a bunch of schools that I can't find anywhere. The article for Novesta-Grant Elementary describes a school for which I can find no evidence that it even exists. The Catholic schools in the community are not listed on the school district's website, and in the U.S. would not be part of the school district. The total numbers for the school don't match the stats from NCES. Can you take a look at this and reply on my talk page? Alansohn (talk) 02:40, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar

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		Thanks for saving List of secondary schools in Romania from the deletionists at AfD!  Francium12  16:29, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Aajad International School, Dammam

I removed the {{db-spam}} tag from this article after removing the promotional content. I did several searches in Google, Google Books, and Google News Archive, and I cannot find anything to confirm this school's existence. What should be done? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 06:45, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Likewise, I can't find anything. I have left a request at User talk:Bonn5740. If the creator cannot find a reliable source then it fails WP:V and I will delete it. TerriersFan (talk) 14:58, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Okay. Thanks for looking into it. Best, Cunard (talk) 21:00, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

No sources have been forthcoming so I have deleted the page. I have explained the situation to the creator. TerriersFan (talk) 03:19, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

I hope the creator can provide sources, but deleting the article is the best course for right now. Cheers, Cunard (talk) 03:26, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

For your effort

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		For your exceptional activity in rescuing school articles at AfD, specifically the "non-western" articles where references are so hard to come by. -SpacemanSpiffCalvin‡Hobbes 18:22, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Talk page

I suppose I could do that whenever an editor requests that. I mean, these lists are visible in the edit summaries, but I will copy them to the talk page on request as long as other editors find it helpful. WhisperToMe (talk) 17:34, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

• With Ashley Jones I searched Google News and could not find a reliable source that supports the entry. WhisperToMe (talk) 01:11, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
  • Thanks; me neither. I am sure that this is genuine but none of the sources I have found would be regarded as sufficiently reliable. By posting on the talk page I am hoping to smoke one out. :-) TerriersFan (talk) 03:17, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

speedy reasons

there seems to be a bigger problem than it looked--see my note on the relevant user talk. DGG ( talk ) 04:25, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Ponting image

Hey, is this a screenshot? File talk:Ponting.jpg Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 04:23, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Oops; I'd forgotten about this one; its also ophaned. The article editors have had no use for it so I have quietly put it to sleep! TerriersFan (talk) 23:42, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Motown move

Hi, would you be interested in helping with this move? Rothorpe (talk) 19:46, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Done; but there are now a bunch of double redirects that need zapping unless the bot fixes them (which it does sometimes). TerriersFan (talk) 21:04, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Let's hope it does, thanks. Rothorpe (talk) 00:35, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Schoolblock#Image

Hello there. I brought this discussion back, and would appreciate it if you commented on my comments. Please respond on my talk page. Thanks, Nuclear Lunch Detected  _Hungry? 15:05, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Novelas nacionais seems OK

Never heard of the site, but it gives a reasonable preview of the programme, so I see no problem. Rothorpe (talk) 23:24, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/University College Dublin Law Society

Hiya. You participated in a previous deletion discussion regarding this, so may like to know that it has cropped up again. Thanks. Quantpole (talk) 16:38, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

And you've already participated in this one! DOh. Quantpole (talk) 16:45, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Your comments at the AfD

Did not assume good faith. I have to say I resent your words. There is no possibility for a merge in my opinion given the inappropriate nature of the content in the subject article. I don't even think the content is notable enough for a specific mention in the parent article. I don't even think you phrased your comment very politely, I'm afraid. I have explained my decision on the deletion page. Kind regards, SGGH ^ping! 09:44, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, but 'good faith' doesn't come into it. I said "The nominator has failed to address the merge possibility as required by WP:BEFORE.". This is a factual statement. Had I said "The nominator has failed to consider a merge", a different matter, then there may be a AGF issue. There is nothing in the nomination that argues the case against a merge. You may have considered a merge, but not recorded your deliberations, but without this being included in your statement we have no way of knowing. The way forward is simply to address the question in the form "I considered a merge into the parent article but rejected it because ...". That also has the advantage of moving the debate forward, and may well convince others to your viewpoint. TerriersFan (talk) 17:04, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Weihwa Chinese School

Hi, are we sure this is a high school? I haven't found anything about what age range they teach. TerriersFan (talk) 23:48, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

• See http://weihwa.schools.officelive.com/CoursesProspectus.aspx , which lists specific courses. The later courses (particularly those that make reference to SAT) are for high school students. This is a weekend school for teaching Chinese as a second language and other sujects, rather than a five-day-a-week school. I had not realized this at first. - --Eastmain (talk) 00:53, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
• TerriersFan, what do we do with Chinese schools that have not received secondary coverage? Should they be merged to the nearest locality as is done with elementary schools? Cunard (talk) 08:15, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Deletion review for Students for Economic Justice

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AfD discussion on ( List of ) Alumni, Principals and Teachers of The Rajkumar College,Rajkot- RKCians

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Winnipeg schools

Ugh. Can I direct you to User talk:Jorge Stolfi#Removing infoboxes, moving school pages? I also mentioned it on WPSCHOOLS, but I could really use some assistance/guidance. tedder (talk) 07:31, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Soprano cornet

Hello, can you Move to get rid of the capital C in the above, please? It won't let me. Rothorpe (talk) 23:29, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Done. TerriersFan (talk) 04:57, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Rothorpe (talk) 11:50, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Your edits on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of office bearers of the National Union of Students of Australia

Hi there. I have undone your edit to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of office bearers of the National Union of Students of Australia where you struck my recommendation. I have not changed my recommendation, and you striking it without any explanation on the page itself makes it look like I've changed my vote, even though I haven't. Furthermore, since AfDs are not a vote, I can't see the problem in me, as the nominator, making my position clear and kicking off the discussion. If you disagree, feel free to let me know, and if you convince me I'll be sure to not do it again, but I'd prefer it if I were the one editing my comments on AfDs. -- Lear's Fool (talk | contribs) 02:24, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Sundar V. Nadkarni

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Portuguese party

Hi, could you move this to a better title, please, as 'Reorganizative' won't do. I suggest either Portuguese Workers' Communist Party or, preferably, as I think this is what most anglophones call it, PCTP. Ah, yes, there is already a redirect from that. Thanks - Rothorpe (talk) 14:38, 13 February 2010 (UTC) - Just remembered, there's a category too: Category:Communist Party of the Portuguese Workers / Reorganizative Movement of the Party of the Proletariat politicians.

I have moved the page as requested. However, the categorisation can be sorted out by yourself since it doesn't require admin tools. TerriersFan (talk) 19:00, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Just seen this. Category has disappeared, so okay. Rothorpe (talk) 15:44, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Stray cat

Hi, could you change the above so that it redirects to Cat instead of Feral cat, please? - Rothorpe (talk) 17:06, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Better, I think, as a DMB page since there are three related pages;now created. TerriersFan (talk) 02:53, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Right, thanks. Rothorpe (talk) 14:47, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Clayton Mark

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Chippewa Middle School

We need a way for information on Chippewa Middle School to be shown on Wikipedia. Go to Talk:Chippewa Middle School, Shoreview, MN for more info. Please reply on that talk page.Ratburntro44 (talk) 21:10, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Sinem Saniye

Do you really think "album sold on amazon" is enough for notability? Any fool can get their product on amazon. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 20:54, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Please don't launch onto my talk page and make straw man comments. I didn't say that '"album sold on amazon" is enough for notability?'. The threshold for declining a speedy deletion is considerably lower than that for establishing notability. TerriersFan (talk) 15:49, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar

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		For great dedication in finding citations for the formerly unreferenced article SMK Green Road in the middle of an AfD and thus fixing the article, rather than let it be deleted. - Ahunt (talk) 02:47, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your note! No problem - you deserve the credit for greatly improving the article! - Ahunt (talk) 01:16, 7 April 2010 (UTC)