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A bit of an archeological dig...

I happened upon your speedy nom of {{Waiting}}. Interestingly, it was created in 2007, whereas the current "current" implementation, effectively a derivative, was created in 2012. {{Waiting}} is also a more proper template name than {{Await}}, I think, but that's been lost to the annuls of history—and standardized template metadata boilerplate, I suppose. I'm curious, though, how did you happen upon {{Await}} in the first place? ResMar 05:28, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Resident Mario, {{Await}} is listed at {{Done/See also}}, but {{Waiting}} isn't listed at all. APerson (talk!) 13:12, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
I know, I'm just saying that there isn't any particular reason that Await preferable to Waiting beyond the fact that it is mentioned in that central inline-image boilerplate, and making a mildly interesting comment on the whole arrangement. ResMar 14:39, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/APersonBot 2

Your trial period has been approved, please see the request for details. — xaosflux Talk 01:19, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

The Order

Hello,

I have tried to edit a page that already exists, but was declined due to it not meeting notability guidelines. I have read the guidelines and sourced appropriately. Can you help me get my first article published?

Thank you,

Macaroniandsleeze (talk) 02:15, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Macaroniandsleeze, can you point me towards the page which you're talking about? APerson (talk!) 02:39, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Kevin Whalum

Greetings, I'm writing to inquire why my Kevin Whalum post keeps getting declined. He's a real person and sings on real records. Please advise. Thank you. Fairwave (talk) 02:19, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Fairwave, I have no doubts as to whether he's a real person and whether he sings on real records. However, the criteria used for determining if he gets a Wikipedia article center around notability, not existence. Simply put, if there is significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject (to quote WP:GNG) about him, then he deserves a Wikipedia article. The sources in the article do not demonstrate this at the moment; you may want to, for instance, cite a newspaper article or book about him. Thanks! APerson (talk!) 02:43, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
Does museum interview qualify?
http://nmaam.org/mymusicmatters/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B1OwhHHIsU#t=30
Fairwave (talk) 17:28, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
Looking at WP:YOUTUBE and WP:VIDEOLINK, it looks like that video looks good to be used as a source. APerson (talk!) 17:45, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Lybnivka

I would like to know why my article wasn't accepted. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ukraine14 (talk • contribs) 22:10, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Ukraine14, please see the template which I placed on User:Ukraine14/Lybnivka for an explanation. As the text says, [w]e cannot accept blank submissions. APerson (talk!) 00:45, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
I have updated the article. May you review it? Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ukraine14 (talk • contribs) 18:30, 24 June 2014‎ (UTC)
Submissions must have reliable sources. Please add some before resubmitting. I'll put a template on the draft that will help with that.
About talk pages: Please don't delete everything to respond to something; instead, add your response after the comment which you are replying to (using colons (:) for indentation). APerson (talk!) 02:38, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
Also, click the "Resubmit" button to resubmit the article after you have added sources. APerson (talk!) 02:39, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Frequent subtree mining

Hello! Your submission of Article at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! 142.150.38.155 (talk) 17:01, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Draft:Briggs Marine

{{Resolved}}

Dear APerson, Can I request further clarification on your comments on how to rewrite the article submitted; in terms of how it reads like an advertisement, and the variation of sources that the article refers to? I am keen to understand how you would suggest a change in the way the article is worded in order for it to come from a more neutral point of view. Also, as all the facts in the article have been related to in the listed references from sources other than the topic's main website, are the references not up to the standards of reliability that Wikipedia requires? Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated, Kind regards Sarah Woodward (talk) 10:17, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Draft:Downhill (2014 film)

Draft:Downhill (2014 film) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi, I have added even more independent reviews. We have been reviewed / written about by The Times, The Independent, Radio Times, Empire magazine, ScreenDaily, etc. This must qualify the page? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Downhill_(2014_film

LizzieJGoodman (talk) 14:31, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Before the references can qualify the page, it is essential that the references are able to be checked. In the article's current version, they don't really follow any citation style. I would recommend that you convert the article so that it uses Citation Style 1 (although others work fine, too). At that point, reviewers will be able to check notability. Another thing which you should check is the notability of the film. A previous reviewer linked to WP:NFILM. The article probably meets the criteria listed at WP:NFILM#Other evidence of notability; however, you should definitely verify that the sources prove this. Hope this helps! APerson (talk!) 20:38, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Draft:Generosity: An Enhancement

{{Resolved}}

I created a draft for Generosity: an Enhancement at the same time someone else was creating a draft. I have added material to the other person's (now published) page so my draft can be deleted. But I do not see how to do that. I will look around for that facility but you are welcome to delete it if you are able. Cheers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jiuk (talk • contribs) 13:04, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Your draft is covered by Wikipedia's quickest method of deleting stuff, the criteria for speedy deletion. I'll tag the submission with G7 ("Author requests deletion") since you have done so. Anyway, thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! APerson (talk!) 02:01, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

User:Som.tag/sandbox

Hello,

An article I had submitted for review about "Sky Infotech" got declined. I only wanted to share my views about the company. Can I know why it was declined? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Som.tag (talk • contribs) 11:58, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Som.tag, per Wikipedia's company notability policy, [a]n organization is generally considered notable if it has been the subject of significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. Therefore, the submission must have sources. Otherwise there's no way to prove that its subject is notable, and therefore it can't have an article on Wikipedia. All you have to do, as the box I put on your submission says, is [a]dd citations to secondary reliable sources that are entirely independent of the subject.. Hope this helps! APerson (talk!) 12:54, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of GolfScript for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article GolfScript is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/GolfScript until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:12, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Draft:Internet Sales Promotion Group

Draft:Internet Sales Promotion Group (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Sub: Review of "Draft:Internet_Sales_Promotion_Group"

I found this company deserves a page because of the following reasons. ISPG seems to have a bad PR because of which they couldn't appear in the news papers or any of the valid sources approved by Wiki. But that doesn't mean this company don't deserve a Wiki page, I have seen several other companies which are less relevant in the same domain having a wiki page. I would really appreciate if you could reconsider the decision and give this page an approval. If you feel that this page can be approved after a few changes are made, kindly let me know the same.

1. This company was awarded for innovation by Kerala Management Association and NASSCOM for its E-commerce software (Oorjit) and Enterprise Social Networking software (Ollco): https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=713438268676712&set=a.436166049737270.101788.436165089737366&type=1&theater

2. It is among the first 6 Indian companies to be shortlisted and awarded as the Google Premium SME Partner: http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2012-09-07/news/33677284_1_google-india-rajan-anandan-free-websites

3. This company is a premium partner of Godaddy in India this was announced during WHD India event: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=765677663452772&set=a.447816875238854.104107.436165089737366&type=1&theater

4. The company has more than 250 employees with overseas presence in London and Dubai.

5. Federal Bank, Johnson & Johnson and many other prestigious companies. comes under its clientele.

220.225.218.202 (talk) 07:47, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I do feel that the submission can be accepted after a few changes are made to the referencing. Wikipedia's notability guideline for companies says that sources that provide significant coverage are required to prove the notability of the company. The sources you provide mention the company, but don't given it significant coverage. For a definition, I'm quoting the first bullet point in this section: "Significant coverage" addresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention but it need not be the main topic of the source material. The source written by V. Sajeev Kumar fits these criteria, but no other source does. The Dubaiinternetcity source is a directory listing, and source #8 is a self-published source. Hope this helps! APerson (talk!) 13:17, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, I shall remove all references except the one by V. Sajeev Kumar and resubmit the article. Before doing that I noticed you have added a tag "AfC submissions by date/28 May 2014" could you please help me understand what that signify (I read about it in detail but couldn't understand much) Hope it wont be a barrier for me to edit the page. Please let me knowAnooppaul.m (talk) 15:33, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
The tag (also referred to as a category) serves only to inform reviewers and bots that the submission was submitted on 28 May 2014 and has no effect on anyone's ability to edit the page.
Before resubmitting, you may also want to add more sources that talk about the company in depth; for instance, if there were an article in a periodical (not a press release) about the company, you probably would want to add it. Ditto for any books that talk about the company in a significant way. I'll put a {{Find sources}} tag here, which links to a bunch of helpful resources:
Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL
Thank you for your contributions! APerson (talk!) 15:42, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks again, you are real help. Unfortunately I couldn't find any usable reference other than by V. Sajeev Kumar. So I made a few changes to the article and have resubmitted it for review. I shall keep this page updated as and when I receive more references. Thanks for all your help and guidance APerson. Anooppaul.m (talk) 16:13, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Translation of a Page

Hello!

I made an entry (Giovanni Galli (clothing company)) which was declined. I was "expecting" this outcome for the reason it was declined, however I have an obstacle which I can't go through without help.

I wrote the article in portuguese and wanted to translate it into english and spanish. The english version was declined because it didn't have any references... because they are all in portuguese.

The idea was to combine the three pages after I have created them.

What can I do to stay with the articles in wikipedia?

Thanks in advance. --92MVG (talk) 14:14, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

@92MVG:, references in other languages are no obstacle to a subject's notability. All the submission needs is sources that establish notability per the general notability guideline or some other notability guideline, such as the one for companies. APerson (talk!) 18:38, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

A Barnstar for You!

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The AFC Backlog Buster Barnstar

Congratulations, APerson! You're receiving the The Tireless Contributor Barnstar because you reviewed 130 articles during the recent AFC Backlog elimination drive in June 2014! Thank you for you contributions to Wikipedia at-large and helping to keep the backlog down. We hope you continue reviewing submissions and stay in touch at the talk page. Thank you and keep up the good work! (t) Josve05a (c) 23:40, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

{{Resolved}}

The Technical Barnstar
For your efforts to bring essential functionality enhancements to a key AfC template. Thank you! Bellerophon talk to me 19:30, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

03 Aug 2014

{{Resolved}} Hey Hi! While looking at your userpage I found one of your userbox template about javascript is broken instead of using Template:User javascript-3 you can place {{User js-3}} .CutestPenguin {talk • contribs} 18:18, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Cutest Penguin, thanks! APerson (talk!) 01:16, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

EB1911 verification X-Z

I see that you marked the X-Z section of Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/1911 verification as Done. First, thanks! I thought I was the only one toiling in this particular vineyard.

What's probably not clear is that I have a tool for calculating the table. It scans the individual lists counting the number of lines that end in "-" (actually, it reads the HTML looking for "</a>)</span> -</li>"; some time I must modify it to use the Wikimedia API). The ask on the toplevel page is "remove the {{search}} template and add a note after the trailing hyphen", while the X-Z list does not, itself, contain an indication that you have worked on it. Compare the B2 index, which I just finished.

Rather than make-work, if you can just add an assertion to the X-Z list that it is verified, I'll special-case the code. Sounds good?

I think I'll move on to D now, to avoid clashing with anyone else (I'd also made a start on X-Z, but hadn't done much). David Brooks (talk) 03:30, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

DavidBrooks, while originally going through the X-Z list, the only check I performed on each article was making sure that the article was as comprehensive as that on Britannica; I didn't do anything relating to {{EB1911}}. Therefore, it would probably be best if I were to just go through and mark articles as "ok", following the format on the B2 index.
Regarding the tool: where can I find the code for it? I would be interested in working on it, since I have some prior experience working with the API. APerson (talk!) 01:56, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
@APerson:, I've expanded the per-letter pages to include the important advice from the project page. Because of the emphasis on citations since the EB1911 stuff was created, and the need to be explicit about what would otherwise be an accusation of plagiarism (and CorenSearchBot slaps you if you do include a copy of a previously missed EB1911 article), we're being asked to include the actual title or wstitle of the EB article. Since they were originally just tagged with {{1911}}, sometimes it can require some creativity to find it again. See the discussions at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Encyclopaedia Britannica and also see Category:Wikipedia articles incorporating a citation from the 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica with no article parameter.
Re the tool, it's a very untidy, incrementally created piece of C# code on my PC, which used to be a very untidy piece of PERL. It doesn't even make optimal use of the API (one get call per subpage). As a professional developer, I'd be really sad if anyone else saw it. Don't worry; I'll run it every month or so. David Brooks (talk) 03:33, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
OK, still not my best work and poorly documented, but try http://1drv.ms/1sVPTMJ. David Brooks (talk) 05:59, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Draft:Robert Bloom and User:SLBloom/sandbox

Draft:Robert Bloom (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User:SLBloom/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

SUBJECT: Robert Bloom submission ... Hello, My name is Peter Cole ... My account name is justmeotw. I created a draft article of Robert Bloom that you say is the prior version of the article you will consider for publication.

I created the original draft for a client (wikipedia acct username: SLBloom) on my account. I did not at the time have SLBloom's login credentials. When I did, I copied the entire article over to her account and did the final edits under her account. I am just a 3rd party contractor hired to create the Wikipedia article. It's not mine and I don't want to have it associated with my account. I have removed the article from my account(justmeotw) and would like it to be reviewed for SLBloom. Please consider the SLBLoom submission as legit and not a duplicate submission. I never submitted the justmeotw version of the article for review.

There is some urgency involved in getting this published ASAP as there is a big gathering of people for whom Robert Bloom was an important person. I hope this clears up any confusion.

If you have any questions, you can reach me by email at webtech@b2webservices.com

Regards, Peter Cole 603-763-5276 SLBloom (talk) 01:42, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

@SLBloom and Justmeotw: I understand what you're saying about how SLBloom is the client, but you wrote most of the text and therefore are considered the article's author. At the moment, you, and not SLBloom, are going to get the notifications (i.e. when the article is submitted and when it is accepted/declined.) I'll review the article as soon as I can. APerson (talk!) 16:02, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
OK ... no problem. I've copied the article back into the justmeotw account sandbox and submitted for review. Appreciate the help.
Peter
SLBloom (talk) 20:26, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
SLBloom, it doesn't look like either article has been submitted. Did you want to submit the submission which is in the Draft namespace (i.e. Draft:Robert Bloom)?
Side note: If you're a 3rd-party contractor who's going to be operating on Wikipedia, you should probably check out the guidelines for holding discussions on Wikipedia (which, when followed, have a massive impact on the legibility of discussions), located at WP:TP. You should pay special attention to WP:THREAD, a section of that, which describes how to indent posts (with :'s). Thanks! APerson (talk!) 21:35, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

inre Draft:Found Footage 3D

{{Resolved}} On June 18, you made reference to a comment by an earlier reviewer and advised that we await the film's release before moving the article to mainspace. However, I call your attention to WP:NFF (paragraph 3) and its advising that an article on an unreleased film may be considered if filming has been confirmed to have begun (and in this case it has completed) and the production has received enough attention to meet WP:GNG. That said, I seek your approval in my moving this to mainspace. Thanks, Schmidt, Michael Q. 23:50, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

 Done Since the last discussion on my talk page, Tokyogirl79 has added another source, noting that filming has wrapped up. In that discussion, Tokyogirl79 said that once another review is found, it should be moved to mainspace; I guess that the additional source counts as another independent mention. Therefore, I have moved it to mainspace. APerson (talk!) 02:06, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
Excellent. Schmidt, Michael Q. 02:12, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

You're always very helpful on IRC. Thanks, and enjoy the kitten!

Cheers and Thanks, L235-Talk Ping when replying 00:06, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! APerson (talk!) 00:10, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Much love! WikiWinters (talk) 19:10, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Revised Article on NYC Agency Carbone Smolan

Please advise. You have been most helpful to me in the past. I am resubmitting this long suffering article [[1]] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PorterWritewiki:Carbone_Smolan_Agency for consideration for publication. I am not sure how to do this. Numerous editors, including you, have advised me on what do change and I have followed their suggestions. Should I just start with an entirely new draft and submit to AfC? Porterwritewiki (talk) 21:43, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Sarah Anne Johnson

Hello,

I revised and re-submitted my Sarah Anne Johnson page on July 31st but it does not appear to have been reviewed. Can you please let me know when this will be done?

Thank you, Christine — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cmclean00 (talk • contribs) 14:34, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Carbone Smolan Revision

I have revised this story: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PorterWritewiki:Carbone_Smolan_Agency I would like to resubmit it fresh as an Article for Creation. How do I do this? Porterwritewiki (talk) 21:45, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

I haven't tried this directly but based on observations of Wikipedian behavior, I am inclined to believe that this is how new articles are submitted. The process is somewhat complicated, and you should take care to do each step carefully. First, you must acquire 1(one) American bullfrog (Lithobates catesbeianus), preferably male, from your local Swamp. Next, obtain a standard toilet wand from a local store. You will also need 10-20 Nails, a partially-rusted Ford car, and various garden Herbs such as Rosemary (Rosmarinus officinalis), Chives (Allium schoenoprasum), Mint (Mentha sachalinensis), and , optinally, Parsley (Petroselinum crispum). Slowly rotating the bullfrog clockwise, give it, in order, the chives, mint, and parsley. Then, take the toilet wand and gently prod at the Ford car until the car is slightly damp. Now take the bullfrog and put it inside the car. Then proceed to take the nails and hammer them into the hood of the car, no more than 8 though. Take the rest of them and rest them head-down on the hood. Once this has been done, forget about all that and go back inside and go to Wikipedia:Starting_an_article. exoplanetaryscience (talk) 01:01, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:+3

Template:+3 has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page.

A barnstar for you!

The Teamwork Barnstar
A barnstar to you for re-reviewing at least 25 user reviews during the WikiProject Articles for creation June 2014 Backlog Elimination Drive. Thanks for contributing to the backlog elimination drive!
Posted by (t) Josve05a (c) on 08:39, 29 October 2014 (UTC), on behalf of WikiProject Articles for creation

Copyright checks when performing AfC reviews

Hello Enterprisey. This message is part of a mass mailing to people who appear active in reviewing articles for creation submissions. First of all, thank you for taking part in this important work! I'm sorry this message is a form letter – it really was the only way I could think of to covey the issue economically. Of course, this also means that I have not looked to see whether the matter is applicable to you in particular.

The issue is in rather large numbers of copyright violations ("copyvios") making their way through AfC reviews without being detected (even when easy to check, and even when hallmarks of copyvios in the text that should have invited a check, were glaring). A second issue is the correct method of dealing with them when discovered.

If you don't do so already, I'd like to ask for your to help with this problem by taking on the practice of performing a copyvio check as the first step in any AfC review. The most basic method is to simply copy a unique but small portion of text from the draft body and run it through a search engine in quotation marks. Trying this from two different paragraphs is recommended. (If you have any question about whether the text was copied from the draft, rather than the other way around (a "backwards copyvio"), the Wayback Machine is very useful for sussing that out.)

If you do find a copyright violation, please do not decline the draft on that basis. Copyright violations need to be dealt with immediately as they may harm those whose content is being used and expose Wikipedia to potential legal liability. If the draft is substantially a copyvio, and there's no non-infringing version to revert to, please mark the page for speedy deletion right away using {{db-g12|url=URL of source}}. If there is an assertion of permission, please replace the draft article's content with {{subst:copyvio|url=URL of source}}.

Some of the more obvious indicia of a copyvio are use of the first person ("we/our/us..."), phrases like "this site", or apparent artifacts of content written for somewhere else ("top", "go to top", "next page", "click here", use of smartquotes, etc.); inappropriate tone of voice, such as an overly informal tone or a very slanted marketing voice with weasel words; including intellectual property symbols (™,®); and blocks of text being added all at once in a finished form with no misspellings or other errors.

I hope this message finds you well and thanks again you for your efforts in this area. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:20, 18 November 2014 (UTC).

       Sent via--MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:20, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

TRPoD edits of Shivam Patil

{{Resolved}} URGENT! Can you please take a look at the recent changes made by TheRedPenOfDoom on the page Shivam Patil . There seems to be a problem with his recent edits. Properly sourced material has been removed and the reasons given are NOT at all satisfactory. Thankyou. Vedanggupta1 (talk) 11:06, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Something you mentioned in the Persondata RfC

Hi, back ages ago in this RfC, you mentioned the script of the Articles for Creation process. I'm looking to notify them that Persondata is now deprecated (as per this conversation), Could you direct me where I could do that? Or where to start looking? Thanks —Msmarmalade (talk) 00:52, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Msmarmalade, sure! If you have a GitHub account, feel free to file an issue here; otherwise, start a discussion at WT:AFCH, the talk page for the tool. APerson (talk!) 03:40, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Bot request

I marked the request Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/APersonBot 2 as expired. Please re-apply when you are active again. -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:42, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

 Done The request has been resubmitted. APerson (talk!) 16:31, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Notification

Sorry, but I don't understand why I got this--I've weighed in there quite substantially already. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 15:11, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Drmies, I'm testing a bot to notify people of DYK submissions. However, I have yet to skip notifications for users who have already contributed to the discussion on the nomination; I'm tracking this bug in a GitHub issue. APerson (talk!) 16:26, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
I'm blinded with science. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 16:55, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

00:22:36, 4 December 2014 review of submission by WrongMonkey

Can you please give specific suggestions on improvements? Where and what type of references to add. Much obliged.

WrongMonkey (talk) 00:22, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

WrongMonkey, Wikipedia's notability guideline states that to have an article, people should generally have been written about by sources that are independent of them. All but one of the sources currently in the draft have Paul S. Wang listed as an author, and the one that doesn't have him as one does not have significant coverage (for example) of him.
There are a bunch of notability guidelines that this person might meet, including the general one, the one for people, and the one for professors. You should probably look into proving notability via one of these, and then re-submit the draft. Feel free to ask me any questions you may have about this! APerson (talk!) 14:04, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

LMDB

thanks for reviewing the LMDB page. i've restored the edits that were completely missed by someone making an arbitrary "non-trusting" and judgemental decision to take a copy of the page over a month ago whilst several highly competent technical individuals (well-known and respected prominent software libre developers) were collaborating to improve the quality of the article. that judgemental decision has entirely lost the history of the edits made during that period, i wonder if you know of a way to restore them, as there may be things that were missed that other people might feel are appropriate to leave in (or out), and not having the history of the page's development makes that incredibly hard to do. Lkcl (talk) 23:11, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

i've spoken to Mwasheim, he took a copy of the page because he believed it would be irrevocably destroyed (i do not believe he understands fully how wikipedia history and archiving works). What he also did not understand was that as I was editing it (as i had been talking to some software libre people who were extremely pissed off that a former oracle employee had been permitted to have the article taken down), it automatically changed from "Articles for Deletion" to "Articles for Creation", which meant that it was automatically referred to review.

Now, the problem is that because he made the copy (somewhere around the 23rd october 2014), you found his *COPY*... *NOT* the article that was in the process of being reviewed and edited by several technically-competent software libre developers.

In fact, the article that was being edited is still listed as awaiting review!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Lightning_Memory-Mapped_Database

can i leave this with you to resolve? thanks. Lkcl (talk) 23:33, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Lkcl, it looks like I created the article already (two days ago), at Lightning Memory-Mapped Database. You can edit it there, and I've declined the draft you linked to as a duplicate of the existing article. APerson (talk!) 02:05, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
APearson i've already cut/paste the contents of the (correct, up-to-date) version overwriting the (incorrect, out-of-date) version, 1 day ago, when i noticed that the wrong (out-of-date) page had been approved. argh a mess for the administrators to sort out. let's hope they get it right. Lkcl (talk) 14:45, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
Oh dear. Lkcl. Since I also maintain serveral mediawiki instances, I can assure you that I understand how it works. However, not all editors are equal. Also, I was also editing, and was aware that my own edits were quickly being improved on. That was on the 19th and 20th of October. Now, I've chimed in here as well. I think the human element has been the problem with this page all along. Mwasheim (talk) 10:43, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
that's good that you know how mediawiki works. the problem is: you didn't tell anyone that you'd made a copy, and the copy could not be easily found. it was hard enough finding the articles-for-deletion entry (i actually had to use google search rather than wikipedia search). i had absolutely no idea that you'd made a copy until the reviewed (out-of-date) page suddenly appeared. the result of taking a copy is that the edits that you were making have all been overwritten, now, because the highly-technically literate individuals who are knowledgeable about LMDB had no idea that the copy existed. the one that i did notice was the references|2 line, i kept that, because in order to ensure complete overkill due to that conflict-of-interest oracle employee causing the page to be deleted, we made damn sure that there were a vast number of references. anyway. best to leave things alone now until the admins have merged the history. Lkcl (talk) 14:45, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
Unfortunately, the admins have decided not to perform a history merge; in that case, we'll have to handle it like a regular merge (i.e. put a notice up and all that) per WP:PV. APerson (talk!) 01:51, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Unintended side effects, LMMD article.

Hello, it seems I caused an erroneous swap of the LMMD article with my copy. This led to the apparrent dissapearance of the history.

The article talk page here retains that history. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Lightning_Memory-Mapped_Database

I belive user user Lkcl would also help merge newer changes. In any case, it was not my intention to replace the initial, only to make a temporary copy. Mwasheim (talk) 10:39, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

I've gone and tagged the article as needing a history merge. After an admin performs the history merge, the page history will be in the right place. APerson (talk!) 14:11, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
Thanks and sorry for the trouble. I was in paranoid mode. Mwasheim (talk) 19:23, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
Just a note: further discussion about this should go at #LMDB. APerson (talk!) 01:52, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

01:14:32, 27 December 2014 review of submission by Smit4155

Hi, I am trying to create the HerpMapper Wiki page, but it keeps getting denied. I have mimicked the page for iNaturalist, a similar citizen science project. They don't have any more references than the HerpMapper page... How did their page get approved? Feedback is appreciated. Thank you.

Smit4155 (talk) 01:14, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

After looking at that page, it doesn't look like that topic is notable either (and I've tagged it as such). To get a page on Wikipedia, topics have to be notable; however, the article doesn't demonstrate that HerpMapper is notable. As that guideline says, topics need significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. That rules out things written by HerpMapper itself and press releases. So, you should resubmit the article when the article has more sources that talk about the subject. APerson (talk!) 18:55, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

05:42:57, 28 December 2014 review of submission by Hiro mary


Hi APerson, You reviewed an article I had submitted a year ago, Im planning to re-submit again.. I've tried to follow as best as I can your comments, can you please let me know if Im on the right path to re-submit and not get turned down please? Many thanks in advance Best, Hiro_mary link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Plissk%C3%ABn_Festival Hiro mary (talk) 05:42, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Hiro mary (talk) 05:42, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Yes, it looks like you can resubmit again. You've added a whole lot of sources since I declined it; good job! I won't be reviewing it again, as it's generally a good idea to get another pair of eyes on the draft (and because, having already declined it, I'm probably biased). APerson (talk!) 01:22, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

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13:56:32, 3 January 2015 review of submission by Adamski67


I've added a number of new citations showing the popularity of the band Adamski67 (talk) 13:56, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Please check back at your submission; it might get deleted speedily as a copyright violation. APerson (talk!) 16:54, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

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15:49:21, 30 December 2014 review of submission by DonegalWinner

Good morning, I've noticed that my submission titled "Bob Wingo" has been declined based on notability. Please let me know what criteria you did or did not see so I can address the issue appropriately. Thanks so much. DonegalWinnerDonegalWinner (talk) 15:49, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

The draft has a lot of sources, and I'm sure that they all mention Bob Wingo. However, for something to be notable (and consequently suitable for a Wikipedia article), people have to be writing about it – not merely mentioning it in their writing. That is, sources must provide significant coverage of Bob Wingo. To quote the first note in Wikipedia's notability guideline, which helps to define what this means: The 360-page book by Sobel and the 528-page book by Black on IBM are plainly non-trivial. The one sentence mention by Walker of the band Three Blind Mice in a biography of Bill Clinton [...] ("In high school, he was part of a jazz band called Three Blind Mice.") is plainly trivial.. For the most part, the sources you have in the draft don't really provide significant coverage of Bob Wingo. Your El Paso Times citation does, indeed, provide excellent coverage of Bob Wingo: if there were more sources about him like this, he would be notable. All you have to do is find them. TL;DR - Great work and find more sources that directly talk about him! APerson (talk!) 18:25, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
Thanks so much for the quick reply regarding my entry for Bob Wingo. To your point regarding more substantial coverage of Mr. Wingo, especially pieces centered around him, please note the following
Hope that helps. Please let me know. Thanks again for your guidance.
DonegalWinner (talk) 17:39, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
That's pretty impressive! I guess I may not have looked at all the sources in the article that carefully. There are no issues remaining with the sources, so far as I can tell. The tone of the article is, in some places, a bit promotional (you may want to check out WP:NPOV, one of Wikipedia's policies on articles' tones) but that can be easily fixed. I've accepted the article. Great work! APerson (talk!) 02:44, 3 January 2015 (UTC); revised 02:49, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
Will take a look regarding the tone. Thanks so much for your help! DonegalWinner (talk) 13:57, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
DonegalWinner, no problem. By the way, you may want to take a look at Wikipedia's guidelines for using talk pages - you don't have to start a new section every time you're responding to a discussion. APerson (talk!) 14:43, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

13:55:54, 4 January 2015 review of submission by Alsayeghmedia

Dear reviewer, I am clueless on how to get this article approved, i do really require very straight bullet points from you which i need to fix to get the article approved. I will forward your points to the PR office of her highness and upon that will hopefully be able to edit correctly. Alsayeghmedia (talk) 13:55, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

As it stands, the article is a list of lists of accomplishments of its subject. I may have declined the article for the wrong reason; at the moment, the article has a very promotional tone. There are also a number of statements in the draft that need citations: for instance, the final two bullet points in the "Charitable Milestones" section (which itself has a promotional name) probably need to be cited in a reliable source. APerson (talk!) 17:34, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

22:39:44, 5 January 2015 review of submission by Adyoo3

My article on Special Correspondents was rejected. I did an edit but I'm not sure if I did the right corrections. Thank you.

Adyoo3 (talk) 22:39, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Adyoo3, I rejected your draft because, as the note on your talk page says, [t]his submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Of the 156 words in the draft, 64 of them (41%) are a plot summary of the movie and 49 (31%) are a capsule summary of Eric Bana's career. Articles have to talk about their topics in a neutral tone, but the draft (at the moment) reads like a press release about the film. You should fix that before you resubmit the draft. APerson (talk!) 17:25, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Draft:Critical Systems

I'm new to this so i appreciate your help editing my post at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Critical_Systems. Is there anything else i have to do or do i just wait now?

Thanks,

Criticalsystemsboise (talk) 02:10, 8 January 2015 (UTC) criticalsystemsboise Tony Critical Systems Inc.

@Criticalsystemsboise: No, there's nothing else you have to do. I'm just moving some drafts around because draftspace (that's when the title of the page begins with "Draft:") is the preferred location. A reviewer will come along and review your article eventually - we're just a bit backlogged at the moment. APerson (talk!) 13:59, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Request on 14:58:43, 10 January 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by 2teach4ever


Hi! I am wondering about the Article I asked for creation the other day. It was not a test, but it was on the Wikipedia Adventure. Are you not supposed to write on things like that? Please place {{ping|2teach4ever}} below to notify me. Thanks, 2teach4ever 14:58, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

2teach4ever 14:58, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

No, you aren't supposed to write articles about things like that. I can't remember what it was about, since your draft got deleted. Sorry, Scooter. APerson (talk!) 02:27, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 133#Custom notices on user .js and .css pages

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Regarding A Page of Reputed Public Figure in nepal

Dear Sir,

Please kindly suggest me the ways that the page can be accepted in the wikipedia.org so that my posted information for Dr. Yogi Vikashananda which was previous nominated for deletion can be accepted. your valuable help will be much appreciated.

thank you. Sunny shrestha — Preceding unsigned comment added by Max Promo Nepal (talk • contribs) 13:05, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

I declined your draft, Draft:Yogi Vikashananda, because [the] submission's references d[id] not adequately evidence the subject's notability. In other words, you didn't provide enough evidence that reliable sources were talking about Yogi Vikashanda.
Before you resubmit it (having fixed this issue), you should also take a look at the tone and claims made in the article. Wikipedia's verifiability policy, especially Wikipedia's policy about biographies of living people, state that claims that could be reasonably challenged need sources. The statement "The newly born Vikashananda was discovered lying on a temple premise in Kathmandu, Nepal, on June 16 1961" is just an example of a statement that needs backing up. APerson (talk!) 00:11, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Request on 11:48:05, 12 January 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Chints247


Hi,

Recently my article for creation has been declined. Can you help me with some examples as to where it sounds like advertisement. Since its my first time, I am too excited make it happen

ThanksChints247 (talk) 11:48, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Chints247 (talk) 11:48, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Chints247, sure! Wikipedia's policy on article tone states that articles, among other things, should not include opinions stated as if they were facts. One statement like this that stands out is "Galfar, strives to maintain their Experience and Expertise in Project Management, Engineering, Procurement and Construction...". Not only does it sound like it was lifted from the company's website, it should have a citation to a reliable source that says this. Another iffy statement is "It provides one stop solution to all types of construction requirements in the Sultanate". It's unclear what you're referring to with "one stop solution", and like the first statement, it sounds very close to an advertisement. APerson (talk!) 17:23, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Creative biography of Dorota Lopatynska-de-Slepowron ( Review request)

It was definitely my mistake. I am new in this area. I would be most grateful to receive your comments, constructive criticism etc. I can add authenticity by giving the links of her YouTube videos and BBC 3 Boom Town. Many thanks. 16:56, 12 January 2015 (UTC)Atonu1956 (talk)

Sure, no problem! The process for creating articles on Wikipedia can often be confusing. I declined your draft because it didn't establish that Dorota Lopatynska de Slepowron is notable. Generally, someone is notable when reliable sources have written about them. For instance, you could cite a newspaper article about her.
Another problem entirely is the tone of the draft. You include phrases like "Dorota is unique, great personality full with original ideas" and "She is a dedicated Fine Artist of natural talent with vision". Please look at Wikipedia's policy on tone, as well as the guideline on specific words that may be problematic, to see what sort of revisions you should make to the article. APerson (talk!) 17:07, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
I wonder how can I post a question at Teahouse.
My question is that I have independent sources like magazines and BBC 3 TV show. I did mention them in my draft but they were not recognised. Atonu1956 (talk) 17:09, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
You generally should cite your sources using a generally used citation style, rather than merely mentioning them in prose. For instance, you could use Citation Style 1, which is pretty widely used. (Side note: To make talk page discussion more readable, you should indent your posts with colons (:).) APerson (talk!) 17:28, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
Oh, by the way: to ask a question at the Teahouse, click "Ask a question" here. APerson (talk!) 17:29, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Phil Rogers

Hello, You reviewed my article and said that I need to prove notability. I have added references to a number of books that feature the work of Phil Rogers but I have to say that having mentioned that his work is in the permanent collections of fifty museums around the world I really think that proves notability?? Especially as they include the Victoria and Albert Museum, Boston Museum of Fine Arts, The national Museum of Wales plus other important museums in Japan, Korea, Canada, USA and the UK. What more can he do? Thanks,

Hajeong lee 20:33, 5 January 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hajeonglee (talk • contribs)

Haejeonglee, whoops! By the final bullet point in Wikipedia's notability guidelines for artists, The person's work [...] is represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums, he's notable - I must have missed that. I've accepted the article. Good job! APerson (talk!) 02:45, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
Hello again...I have now added at least 4 links from other srticles as you suggested...hope that works....many thanks.barbara 20:55, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
I think that because the article is called Phil Rogers(potter) it is going to be hard to find...not everyone will think to type (potter) and it is not showing up on a search with just 'Phil Rogers'. Can we change the name of the article to simply 'Phil Rogers'?barbara 20:59, 18 January 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hajeonglee (talk • contribs)
I believe that the article can be found at the title Phil Rogers (potter); I put it there because there's already an article about a person named Phil Rogers. However, I've added a notice at the top of the latter page pointing towards the potter's article. Hope that helps! APerson (talk!) 13:59, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Your draft article, User:Roundtable25/The Roundtable

Hello APerson. It has been over six months since you last edited your WP:AFC draft article submission, entitled "The Roundtable".

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. JMHamo (talk) 22:26, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Draft:Bagful Declined Recently

Hi Aperson, I had given three references, can you please tell me, what references were totally wrong to cite. And what amendments should i do to get it published, or did you find it advertorial? what was the main reason the article was declined?Akkighai (talk) 09:12, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

I declined your draft not because you can't cite those references, but because there weren't enough of the right sort. The sort of references I'm looking for are ones that provide significant coverage (e.g. not the DMOZ one, since that's a (obligatory) entry in a database, or the reference to The Money Times, since that's a press release), that are reliable (e.g. not the blog, since that's self-published), and that meet the other things required of sources in the general notability guideline. Hope this helps! APerson (talk!) 05:09, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

iNaturalist

Why was this flagged for notability? There seems to be a number of primary sources indicating that importance of the site. Furthermore, there are a number of other pages for citizen science projects that have less sources than iNaturalist that were not flagged.

Financialpanther (talk) 16:22, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

I initially tagged the article because it didn't look to me like the sources demonstrated notability. However, since I flagged it a month ago, someone came by and added a bunch of sources, so it seems like the tag can go off now. By the way, anybody can remove a tag if they feel it doesn't apply to the article, so long as they're mindful of consensus/discussion on the talk page. Since there wasn't any in this case, it's fine if you go ahead and just remove the tag. Also, if there are other pages for citizen science projects that don't seem notable to you, go ahead and tag them! It's just a notice to interested editors that they should help the article establish notability. APerson (talk!) 20:05, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Draft:Dezeen submission rejected

Dear APerson, I perfectly understand what's the point with this. Since this magazine is quite renown and I often use its coverages for my lessons, I was wrongly supposing that one authoritative reference would have been enough. My fault, I apologise for that. As soon as I will add more reliable references quite soon I will resubmit this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jpboudin (talk • contribs) 21:36, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

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The Morris Quinlan Experience

Hello

You declined this article on 27th December 2013. It was subsequently deleted, but on request it's recently been undeleted, and further edited. I believe at least two of Wikipedia's notability guidelines are indeed met for this ensemble, as follows... 

"1.  Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent from the musician or ensemble itself.[note 1] This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, magazine articles, online versions of print media, and television documentaries[note 2] except for the following: Any reprints of press releases, other publications where the musician or ensemble talks about themselves, and all advertising that mentions the musician or ensemble, including manufacturers' advertising.[note 3]

Works consisting merely of trivial coverage, such as articles that simply report performance dates, release information or track listings, or the publications of contact and booking details in directories."

Album reviews in The Times and Melody Maker, as well as the feature article in the Newcastle Journal were all independently written, and despite being unavailable online, are all verifiable.

"12. Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or TV network."

Does not the group's live appearance as guests on Ned Sherrin's Loose Ends programme on BBC Radio 4 (Saturday 11th August 2001) count here? It was a segment of approaching 10 minutes duration, during which Sherrin gave a lengthy introduction to the band, and talked further about them after their live performance of one of their pieces, all in front of a live audience. Most notably, the segment was repeated on the Loose Ends Pick Of The Year show at the end of 2001.

The band can not yet claim 'rotation' play for any of their releases, but they are regulars on Bob Harris's BBC Radio 2 Sunday Show (considered to be a very influential rock music programme, if not the most influential currently on UK radio), and indeed a playlist search shows they have received more Bob Harris plays than even (for instance) Kate Bush!!!

That said their most recent singe release 'Scarborough Fair' received multiple plays on the Radio 2 network, not just from Bob Harris.

One of the band's members, Dave Maughan, is well known as a record producer, having recorded and produced Mercury Music Prize nominated Little Black Numbers album by Kathryn Williams, who herself has guested on an MQE released track. Would it be helpful to this article if Dave Maughan had a Wikipedia entry?

Hoping you can reconsider the article...

LTD LeoTheDobermann (talk) 03:03, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

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Request on 05:37:53, 12 March 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Elilat54


I seem to be chasing my tail over an over again with wiki. I have re copied and pasted my article on Hawayo Hiroumi Takata that is now in Sandbox back into elilat54.ebliss54 05:37, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

a copy is also pasted below. seems you at wiki create a very complex system that leads writers around an around in circles.

Hatted as a draft that has been submitted—and copy and pasted—elsewhere. APerson (talk!) 12:55, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Example.jpg From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 'Hawayo Hiromi Takata' Born (December 24,1900 – December 11,1980 ).Hawayo Kawamura married in 1917 became Mrs Hawayo H Takata (高田ハワヨ) in Japanese Katakana.Hawayo was a second generation Japanese-American,one born of indigenous Japanese Parents. Hawayo was born on a sugar cane plantation, located in Hanamaulu,,Kauai County,Territory of Hawaii.Hawayo introduced the to the world a hands on healing method,"The Usui System of Natural Healing". Which over time,was better know through out the entire world by its more simple common name,"Reiki".Reiki In Japanese kanji,( 靈氣 ). 

What is Reiki

Reiki is a natural healing art that was developed in Japan around the years of 1890 to 1925.It is generally believed that a man,who was known by the name of 'Mikao Usui Sensei' was the original founder of Reiki in Japan[1]. The word'Sensei,' . Usui Sensei passed on his 'reiki healing art', with all its core teachings, to his elected successor,Chujiro Hayashi,before Usui Sensei's death, in around 1926. . An english translation of the 1928 reiki article, along with the original Japanese, can be found at the following search title. [2]. There is a direct linage of Usui's teachers in the Reiki Healing art.This Reiki teaching linage was passed on by Mikao Usui's to his elected successor, Mr Chujiro Hayashi, in around the year 1922(Taisho era )Japan[3].This passing on of the Usui linage was accounted for and according to Mrs Hawayo Takata's reiki history story.This story is, as it was told to her in 1936, by her teacher, Mr Chujiro Hayashi.Mrs.Takata was fluent in both the language and culture of Japan and the United States. Mrs.Takata spent many years of her life travelling backwards and forwards from Hawaii to Japan, visiting her family in a village, Kyoto prefecture known as Yamagauchi[4].[5]. This double exposure to both cultures,developed in Hawayo Takata,which made her well-suited for her later task in life as "Reiki Master". Hawayo Takata was nominated as Principle' reiki master',or as Reiki Grand Master'.This was a position which Mrs Takata inherited directly from Chujiro Hayashi in 1940. The Hayashi family 'Reiki associate's or association, bestowed this honour upon her in Atami city, Shizuoka,on May 11, 1940[6],Both Chujiro Hayashi and Hawayo Takata endured great risk to preserve this secret Japanese healing art, during the critical events of WW11[7].Takata gave some 40 years of her life in her personal contributions in the preservation of the entire core teaching of reiki, as personally taught to her by Chujiro Hayashi in 1937.While Takata treated thousands of personal reiki clients,between1936 and 1980,for which Takata is widely acknowledged for today. Takata is also acknowledged by millions of reiki practitioners,through out the world. Takata had simplistic way of teaching with ease the Japanese Reiki art.Today Takata's teaching remains the key source of great inspiration for many other Reiki Master Teachers in the greater Reiki community[8]. It's with great gratitude to Mrs. Takata, for all her efforts to preserve and maintain the original core reiki teachings and practice,in its pure,Japanese, original form. .That same simple reiki teaching as taught by Mikao Usui 臼井甕男," taught to his student Chujiro Hayashi in around 1920.There was no mention of other teachers names existing, other than Mr Hayashi.Though nowadays there are many pseudo reiki teachers, who have claimed other names since 1986. Sadly,however, evidence has shown that, most of these newer teachers did not receive the same core teachings,if at all,of the same reiki teaching,as that taught by Hayashi to Takata.It may questioned if these same pseudo reiki teachers,were actually taught by one of Mrs. Takata's, original reiki masters. Mrs Takata personally initiated some of her suitable students as reiki masters during her time,during the mid 1938 to 1980, but never week end seminar.These master initiations were always a personal and very private teaching session between Hawayo Takata and her reiki master student, usually over a few weeks.,[9].also[10].

' Early Life of 'Hawayo Takata Hawayo H Kawamura ( Takata ) was the daughter of Japanese-born indigenous parents [11]. Making Hawayo Takata a second generation of Japanese American.[[ ]]Hawayo grew up on the Hawaiian Island of Kauai, where her father worked on the sugar cane plantation. She finished formal school at age 12 years.Because Hawayo was a very small, frail girl for age of 12 years.Therefore young Hawayo was most unsuitable for the heavy work in the cane fields. A series of events happened in the village,that was to change the course of Hawayo's life [12]. There was a new store, that had just opened locally. On the day the store opened, Hawayo just naturally began to help the owner out on his new stores opening day, as he was overloaded with customers.Afterwards, the store owner offered Hawayo her first real important Job, and so she went to work in the local store on the plantation.Hawayo attended Japanese school after work as she lived in the boarding school. Later on young Hawayo was invited by the owner of a very large plantation to spend her vacation, where she was eventually given a new job in their great Mansion.Over time Hawayo was given increased duties as she grew older snd stronger and was eventually was put in charge of the other staff in the mansion. At this point, Takata was also able to maintain her Japanese education because of her new position[13]. It most likely at this plantation Mansion was the same place where HawayoTakata met the Heiress Doris Duke[14].They were to form a solid friendship that lasted more than 24 years.[15] On 10 March 1917,Hawayo H Kawamura, Takata, married Saichi Takata, the bookkeeper of the plantation where they were both employed. They had two daughters together.The first child was born in 1919, her name was Julia Sayoko Takata. The second daughter was born in 1924, her name was Alice Emiko Takata. Alice later was to married to a Dr Michael Furumoto in Dallas Texas.[16]. Alice Furumoto was the mother of the current Reiki Grand Master, Phyllis Lei Furumoto.[17] and [18]. In reiki early reiki circles Mrs Hawayo Takata became affectionately known as "Takata". The Takata's,both Hawayo and her husband Saichi, who had just returned from a long trip back to Japan in 1929. This was when Takata's husband Saichi died, at age thirty-four in Hawaii 1930. Sachi Takata also served in the US army in WW1[19]. Following which he served his local community,looking after war veterans and organising functions in his spare time.He was a very well respected man in their community. Before his death or transition as he called it, he asked his wife Hawayo not to bury him in a grave in Hawaii, but to take his ashes back to Japan. Takata did this on her return trip in 1935. Saichi was from a Japanese Christian family. After this great loss, Takata worked hard to support her young family on her own, this contributed to her suffering from, a variety of serious gastrointestinal ailments.All Takata's hard work, little sleep, eventually lead to Takata's nervous breakdown. ' Takata's Introduction To Reiki ' Takata's introduction to Reiki was due to a medical crisis, with a sequence of events, soon after her breakdown. In 1935, Takata journeyed back to Japan, via steamship, with her two young daughters,Julia and Alice Takata, for a dual-purpose. Firstly to attend to the ashes of he late husband Saichi Takata. Secondly the get her own health back in order. When she arrived in Japan she was sent a message to say one of her sisters had also died.So it was her duty to break this news to her Parents who were also in Japan at this time. Takata's health was very poor so she decided to go to Tokyo to seek medical care. After visiting her parents, she went to the private hospital in Asakusa,Tokyo,where she was diagnosed with potential life-threatening conditions,which allegedly included gallstones, appendicitis and a possible tumor. She was given some weeks to recuperate from poor lung health before being admitted for surgery for her other gastrointestinal problems. While resting on the operating table, just before the surgery was to begin, Hawayo heard a voice. The voice said to her,"The operation is not necessary. 'The operation is not necessary." She had never heard a voice speak to her like this before. She wondered what it meant. The voice repeated the message a third time even louder. She knew she was wide awake and had not imagined the voice. It was so unusual, yet so compelling that she decided to ask the doctor. She got off the operating table, wrapped a sheet around herself and asked to speak to the doctor. .and [20]. Takata began her hand healing energy treatment called Reiki under Mr Chujiro Hayashi's care Mrs.Takata received daily treatments over a year or so and became progressively better. Impressed with the results, Takata wanted to learn Reiki. However, it was explained that Reiki was a 'secret teaching' and not for out siders. Mrs. Takata talked to the surgeon at the hospital and convinced him to ask Dr. Hayashi to allow her to learn Reiki. Mr. Hayashi wanted to teach Reiki to another woman besides his wife, and since Mrs. Takata was so persistent, he decided that she should be the one.Takata described all the other reiki practitioner's asmalein Hayashi's reiki clinic. In the Spring of 1936, Mrs. Takata received First Degree Reiki. Under the personal instruction of Chujiro Hayashi, while living with his family in Tokyo in 1936-1937. She worked with Mr. Hayashi's personal supervision and instruction,for one year. Then Takata received her Initiation to 'Okuden', 2nd degree Reiki. .The term Master was a general term used in Japan for many decades. It was not a term created by Hawayo Takata.[21].The term' Master' was first used by the Japanese people to address their oyatoi gaikokujin( 御雇ひ外國人),foreign teachers or advisors Meiji era. . Hayashi actually gave his vocation as 'Reiki Master,Spiritual Healer' aboard the Steam ship MS "ChiChiBu Maru"passenger list, when arriving in Honolulu in 1937. [22].

In July 1937, Takata returned to Hawaii in good health.Just two months before Hayashi was to follow on.Takata, now aged 37 years,began to organise a huge tour for Chujiro Hayashi's around the Islands of Hawaii. Making bookings in halls and writing news paper announcements and so on... She also began promoting herself as a reiki practitioner which she was soon to become a very successful Reiki practice. Two months after Takata's return to Hawaii in 1937, Mr Hayashi, aged 56 yrs, followed accompanied by his daughter Ms. Kiyoe Hayashi, aged 26 yrs. Hayashi came to Hawaii to spend six months with Hawayo Takata . The Hayashi's arrived in Honolulu on September 24 1937, aboard the Steam ship MS "ChiChiBu Maru". Chujiro Hayashi listed himself as a "Master of Hayashi Reiki Ken-kyu 'Japanese spiritual healer ". [23]. When the Hayashi's visited Hawaii, they stayed with Takata for the entire six months and went on a tour with Takata to 'promote his Reiki art of the Usui Shiki Ryoho..In 1938,Takata became thirteenth fully qualified as master of the profession. Takata was the first reiki and only reiki master out side Japan. Hawayo Takata's Reiki Masters certificate was signed by Chujiro Hayashi 21st February 1938 www. image,archives.</ref>.Takata had been given the full knowledge of The Usui Shiki Ryoho and was now fully qualified to teach Reiki Shiki ryoho as Certified on the 21 February 1938.This document was witnessed by public Notoriety, seal stamped, for the US State of Hawaii. [24]. Further reading on Hawayo Takata's Training. [25]

Reiki during Japan Pre WW11.

Takata returned to Japan in March 20th 1940,on board a steam ship bound for Yokohama Japan[26]. also[27]She was led, she said, by a dream in which Hayashi appeared to he dressed in a white Kimono pacing up and down the room.Takata immediately took the first boat back to Japan in March 1940.[28] However when Takata announced her arrival in Yokohama, she was told she had arrived far too early. The invitations had only just been sent out. Takata arrived one month before the invitation date. So Hayashi sent her to Kyoto to learn about hydrotherapy for a month, and as he said, he will send a wire when she was to return.She was told not to go to the house in Tokyo but to come to their country Villa in Atami ,Shizuoka instead.There in Atami,Takata had a long discussion with Mr Hayashi before his Seppuku ceremony. Then he explained every thing to her, as well as handed her the deeds to his house and reiki clinic in Tokyo and his seal he used in business.Then announced to his reiki associates that Takata would be his successor as principle Master after his transition. Hayashi, was a captain 大尉 on reserve for Japanese Imperial Navy since 1916. He had just received a white package which caused him great concern.He was to be called to back active military duty. The white package contained the ceremonial sword as his only other alternative[29],[30].Hayashi 'died by his own blade as he performed ritual seppuku. Hayashi rather, die by his own blade, as to protect his family from all repercussions, from his refusal participate in the bloodshed of Japan's pending war with the USA.[31] regarding Chujiro Hayashi's cause of death,sent from the 'Yasukuni Shrine' in Tokyo, 2014, to be published"""".

Takata gathered up her daughters who were studying in Japan and returned to Hawaii that year,June 3 rd 1940.[32]. She taught Reiki for the next forty years. Though she did not teach it under the name of reiki, but as Japanese massage as well Reiki masters who are members of the 'Reiki Alliance' Mieko Mitsui of Japanese birth, working as a journalist in New York In late 1978. Mitsui became a reiki master initiated by Barbara Weber Ray in 1985. In December 1985 Mitsui was allegedly was interviewed by a Japanese reporter, Ms Shiomi Takai, for an article on Reiki ,with the title 'A Quest for the Origin of "Reiki Healing",[33]and was also about Mieko Mitsui's up and coming Reiki courses in Japan. The article appeared in the April 1986 edition of the Japanese Magazine "The Twilight Zone"[34]. It is a most interesting article that was written by an unknown author to Reiki. The interesting question to ask is why would Meiko Mitsui an authentic reiki master,just pass on all her alleged reiki history research to another author ? unknown to reiki, and for a magazine that soon went out of circulation. Mieko Mitsui translated Barbara Weber Rays book "The Reiki Factor" into Japanese. Mieko Mitsui also taught reiki levels one and two in Japan for many years after, well into the mid 1990's.There is clear evidence that most all alleged new reiki history information as contained in the Twilight Zone article is where a lot of miss leading reiki linage information sprung from. There are a number of books written on reiki that appear to have used this very unsubstantiated material, as the basis of their own reiki history research.Though many of these so called reiki authors never actually quoted this fact in their bibliography [35]. These reiki books that contained the Twilight Zone material, began to flood into the reiki community since 1995, totally confusing every newcomer to reiki.[36] Sadly Hawayo Takata was blamed for this misleading information on reiki linage and teachings, which in fact had nothing to do with Takata at all. Like some reiki books as those listed for purchase which most all have very similar stories as found in the TWZ 1986 article. This 'TWZ' article was to cause of all the confusion in reiki. The reiki books written since 1995, most of which contain many of the elements found in the TWZ magazine article. One should exercise great caution in choosing their reiki initiating master and one of a reputable verifiable linage to Takata.Much of the TWZ magazine articles of'86 contents is not genuine, nor in content or in its connection with Usui reiki. Note that the TWZ article of 1986 also does not mention the name of 'Chujiro Hayashi' in the Usui reiki linage. Chujiro Hayashi who was perhaps the only genuine reiki master after Mikao Usui in 1926.[37]. There appears to be a deliberate omission of Chujiro Hayashi's name in the TWZ magazine article of 1986,coincidently was also absent on the Usui memorial, and is interestingly consistent with the book "The Reiki Factor"1983, and as in Weber's other editions.Hayashi's name is either completely missing or has been hidden and misspelt in the second edition of the Reiki Factor expanded edition or the name was spelt incorrectly altogether. However since those early years of 1985,Barbara Weber Ray's reiki web site has added Chujiro Hayashi's correct name , as part of Weber's reiki linage. Some researchers feel they have discovered that it is quite likely Mikao Usui Sensei [38], did not initiate several other Reiki Masters.[39]However excepting that of which Chujiro Hayashi as Usui's main and perhaps only student and was the only one linked to reiki by pre 1930 reputable Japanese archival records or 'Sunday Every Day"' The Sunday Magazine', on March 4th,1928, written by Kabuki playwright author " Matsui Shoo", English translation on the following listed reference [40]. Though there still is No verifiable independent,nor credible evidence to support these other reiki linage claims to date [41].There are a few other reiki masters, who have silently and patiently researched Reiki History, in Japan, that have discovered an alternate Reiki History, as spoken of and according to Hawayo Takata[42] that will be well documented. There will be numerous supportive, verifiable records pre 1940 Japan.

Bibliography

Wanja Twan,book "In the Light of a Distant Star";1995. Helen J Haberly,"Hawayo Takata's Story"1990, forth printing. Fran Brown," Living Reiki,Takata's Teachings "1992, published by 'Life Rhythm' James Deacons Reiki Pages on Hawayo Takata & Chujiro Hayashi; Paper Will the real reiki Master please stand up References

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It's not a complex system, in my opinion - you create a draft, leave it on a draft page, someone reviews it, and if it gets declined, you improve it and go back to step 2. Note that I did not name "copy and pasting your draft everywhere" as part of that process, so please stop doing that. To review those four steps:
  1. you create a draft: {{done}}. There's a draft article at Draft:Hawayo Hiroumi Takata, and there's no need to copy it anywhere else.
  2. leave it on a draft page: {{done}}. The title of the page starts with "Draft:", which means it's in the space for drafts.
  3. someone reviews it: {{done}}, by me here.
  4. you improve it:  In progress, as that's the part you have to do now.
Hope this clears it up! APerson (talk!) 13:05, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

WikiCup 2015 March newsletter

One of several of Godot13's quality submissions during round 1

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In addition to Freikorp's work, some other important articles and pictures were improved during round one, here's a snapshot of a few of them:

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Hi! I am here about an article I've submitted to Articles for Creation. It has been declined, so I'm here to request for more info about improving it for publishing. What I've tried to do is to create an English article of the French article here: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stibo_Systems I've followed a similar structure and used same sources as in the French article, yet the English article has not been approved. Could you please let me know why that is and what should I do? JasH23 (talk) 13:01, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Sure! I went and looked at the French article, and although my French is not that good, it looked a bit like an advertisement too. Part of what I look for when checking a draft for tone is whether it sounds lifted from a press release or something by the company. Many of the largest company articles on Wikipedia can serve as good models for more "neutral" articles; for instance, Google's first sentence doesn't mention the "solutions" that it provides. Hope this helps, and if you have more questions, feel free to ask! APerson (talk!) 16:57, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

AfC revert

Hi. I usually don't revert, but I had pulled this article up and then it sat while I got occupied by something else. When I sat back down, I saw the results that it was simply cut and paste, but in the interim, you had already declined it. Hope you don't mind. Onel5969 (talk) 19:48, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

@Onel5969: Oh, no, not at all - I just had forgotten to do the copyvio check on that one, since it was such an easy decline. APerson (talk!) 22:53, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

New Page "DigiAddimata"

I was hoping if i could talk to you about the new wiki page that i submitted and was denied. The feedback i received mentioned that there is already a page for 3D printing. The page i proposed is about a new idea that involves 3D printing. The short and simple is that Digiaddimata are objects created on a 3D printer that are created in a single printing session and require no more work to be done or material added or removed from them; aside from the usual post processing of removing temporary supporting material. My question is this, does the idea not warrant the creation of a new page??

Apb65 (talk) 21:31, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Well, it looks like you've written a draft on a new type of 3D-printed object. Also, it reads a bit like you've made a writeup of a research paper (for instance, you break into the plural first person towards the end). It looked like although the topic may not be suitable for an article of its own, it could probably be summarized in a section in 3D printing. APerson (talk!) 02:19, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Please comment on Template talk:Afc decline

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WikiCup 2015 March newsletter

One of several of Godot13's quality submissions during round 1

That's it, the first round is done, sign-ups are closed and we're into round 2. 64 competitors made it into this round, and are now broken into eight groups of eight. The top two of each group will go through to round 3, and then the top scoring 16 "wildcards" across all groups. Round 1 saw some interesting work on some very important articles, with the round leader Australia Freikorp (submissions) owing most of his 622 points scored to a Featured Article on the 2001 film Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within which qualified for a times-two multiplier. This is a higher score than in previous years, as Smithsonian Institution Godot13 (submissions) had 500 points in 2014 at the end of round 1, and our very own judge, Colorado Sturmvogel_66 (submissions) led round 1 with 601 points in 2013.

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c824767

are you a mathematician ? C824767 (talk) 02:58, 19 March 2015 (UTC) when I logged in to wikipedia as a user today for the first time, Wikipedia suggested to write an article on c824767 C824767 (talk) 02:58, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

No, I'm not a mathematician. However, I'm not aware of any feature on Wikipedia that urges new users to write articles on random numbers. APerson (talk!) 12:51, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Feedback for translations search

Hi,

I am a mediawiki contributor and currently I am preparing a proposal for improving translations search. It would be really helpful if you could give me your valuable feedback to improve search for translations [link]. Thank you for your time.

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Request on 18:21:14, 23 March 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Ewilke weatherguys

Sorry, I am new to Wikipedia. You have reviewed my article AcuRite. It looks like it may have been created directly to the namespace before being created in my sandbox and submitted for review. Because of this, it looks like my article was declined because the AcuRite page already exists. My intent was to submit a draft for review, which would then be accepted and placed correctly. Now it looks like this is not possible. I am not sure how to proceed--please help! Ewilke weatherguys (talk) 18:21, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Ewilke weatherguys, no problem! Your draft is now at Draft:AcuRite; it was moved there by Dodger67 here. At the moment, the article is still pending; probably another reviewer (or maybe even myself) will come along and review it within a week or so. Feel free to improve it during that time; for instance, you can always take a look at Wikipedia:Article development, which provides some tips about how to do so. Improving the article will definitely increase the likelihood that a reviewer will accept the article. In short, you don't have to do anything unless you want to. Thank you for your contribution! APerson (talk!) 21:07, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Stroopwafels!

Would you be interested in doing a bot task for the Signpost? ResMar 02:29, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
Sure! What sort of bot task would this be? APerson (talk!) 02:56, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
  1. The task is plugging in historical links to pages as they appeared at the time of the publication of a Signpost article, as done in a mock-up here, through all of the (many!) old Signpost stories. The challenge is baking in the correct diff links, first of all. Second, converting the header template to the new design: we can use a new template (template 2) with that one difference, and then replace the main template (template 1) with that template's content and redirect to that template (template 2 -> 1) when we're done. Third, older articles. The Signpost visual identity has changed over time seeing as how it's been in writing for a decade now, but we've actually only ever used two overall layouts. The current layout was introduced in 2009. This is what we looked like in 2005-2008, so incorporating the template into those articles will require a little more visual work be done.
  2. A second task: the featured content report is a pain to write, our writers complain, because it requires bringing in the metadata on the week's featured content from WP:GO by hand. It would help the section writers a lot of there was some automated way to do this. Here is the current preload they use: Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Templates/Story-preload/FC.
Let me know if either of these interest you! ResMar 03:47, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
The first task definitely sounds interesting, as does the second task. When I have time, I'll try to code up a prototype so we can see how easily a bot would do it! APerson (talk!) 12:38, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
I left a request at botreq a while ago that went unanswered, so I'm glad to hear it's something of interest. If I had to learn the framework myself it would take me a long time to get around to it, and with regards to that second task we're having a bit of a crisis at the moment. ResMar 13:58, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
(as for the waffles, I have no idea, I just get this urge to use them on someone every once in a while—ever since fetchcomms threw them at me three years ago in a similar scenario.) ResMar 04:11, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

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Hello, APerson

I do not appreciate that you deleted my edits on It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. You may not think that what I wrote is constructive, but my edits did in fact serve a purpose. Not only are some of the character descriptions under "Cast and Characters" incorrect, but they also exclude various character developments that are a key part in the show. This is a very popular television show and I believe that Wikipedia should properly and accurately convey not only factual information, but analytical criteria as well. Everything I wrote was true in regards to "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia". I did not put any false or inappropriate information on the page. Your actions in deleting my edits are not only unethical, as your useless criticism is slowing the progression of this website and the way the world shares and discovers information, but irresponsible, as you clearly do not know right from wrong in regards to this topic. Please restore my edits for the good of "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia", and for the good of Wikipedia.

Signed, Jonathan Rosenberg — Preceding "unsigned" comment added by Jonsrose (talk • contribs) 20:58, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Well, obviously you're a bit frustrated by the fact that I reverted your edit. I guess the notice that I left on your user talk page didn't adequately convey my reasons for reverting, so here goes. I felt that your edit added too much detail on the characters with a lack of references. For comparison, check out the list of main characters for Breaking Bad; all but two have sources, and none go into so much detail. To respond to some of your other points, the notice at the top of this page contains, among other things, two bullet points: assume good faith and no personal attacks. Please try to stick to both of them in the future. Feel free to restore your own edits (you can always use the undo button), but please try to keep the character summaries brief and well-referenced. Anyway, thank you for your contributions and your interest in improving Wikipedia! APerson (talk!) 03:10, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
I wouldn't have said the edit was unconstructive; I'd have gone with just "unsourced" because IMHO it was clearly intended to be constructive even if it didn't come out that way. Your explanation reinforces this, and I suggest spelling out your reasoning in the future because people don't come here with instant knowledge of exactly what goes in articles. Separately, he didn't not assume good faith, he said you don't know right from wrong. ekips39 (talk) 03:32, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
Ekips39, my process in dealing with the edit was that I saw a large chunk of unsourced text that went into quite a bit of detail and hit the "test/vandalism" button. Sure, as I already said, I probably shouldn't have used that particular reason as opposed to the "unsourced" reason. On the other hand, that's practically (as far as I remember) the first time I've gotten such a reaction from using the wrong template while reverting an edit. Separately, he characterized my actions as "unethical" - I'm unsure how that counts as the assumption of good faith. APerson (talk!) 03:51, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK message

Hi, I was wondering why you changed the alert that we put on a nominator's talk page to inform him that his article was reviewed. The alert used to include the name of the nominated article, but now it just says "You may notify the nominator of problems with {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}}" and it's a pain to write it in ourselves. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 01:14, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Yoninah, sorry about that! I must have overlooked the fact that there were some parser functions buried in that manual implementation of {{tlxs}}. I've just reverted to the old method of generating the first template parameter. APerson (talk!) 03:49, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
Thank you very much! Yoninah (talk) 10:22, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK message

Hi, I was wondering why you changed the alert that we put on a nominator's talk page to inform him that his article was reviewed. The alert used to include the name of the nominated article, but now it just says "You may notify the nominator of problems with {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}}" and it's a pain to write it in ourselves. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 01:14, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Yoninah, sorry about that! I must have overlooked the fact that there were some parser functions buried in that manual implementation of {{tlxs}}. I've just reverted to the old method of generating the first template parameter. APerson (talk!) 03:49, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
Thank you very much! Yoninah (talk) 10:22, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Kezia Noble

hello Apersons, i have added more referencing to the following page from media, internet and radio sessions of the person whom the page is about. I added some of UK's best media sites and TV Channels, The page in question is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kezia12121/sandbox/Kezia_Noble

Kind Reards

Jayesh Patel 31/03/2015 2.55am — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kezia12121 (talk • contribs) 01:56, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Feedback request

Hi,

I am working to add new features to Search Translations (link) and would like your feedback on the same. I have an idea of a new feature, called "text search with autosuggest" through which you can specify your search filters in the search box itself (apart from the UI), and also have autosuggest to show the possible values for the filter options. An example is this.

Please write a comment here about what you think of this feature. Also here you may read about the other improvements that are planned.

Thank you and I shall be waiting for your feedback. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phoenix303 (talk • contribs) 20:26, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Phoenix303, I don't think I'm the right person to consult about this; perhaps you may want to try talking to people who you know are active on translatewiki. APerson (talk!) 13:18, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Update on the Signpost

I don't how far you are into the things I queried you about earlier, or even if you've started them at all, but you may also be interested in having a peek at Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Index. There's a precedent for a bot going through Signpost articles (it was done once in 2010) and it looks like this initiative is going to require a similar operation once things get nailed down. If you've put thought about the historical linking thing I sent you earlier, the section-tagging thing can be merged into that operation, too. However it's yet to be fully defined. Cheers, ResMar 19:19, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)

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Happy Easter!

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All the best! "Carry me down, carry me down; carry me down into the wiki!" (talk) 04:41, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

05:46:58, 8 April 2015 review of submission by Anuraag Singh


My content has been rejected due to reference and some promotion links, Now i have done major changes on same as suggested, so i would appreciate you if you can review my sandbox again.

Anuraag Singh (talk) 05:46, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Please comment on Template talk:Freenode

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Please comment on Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol

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A cookie for you!

Just a quick way of thanking you for taking care of this page recently. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 00:06, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
Thank you, Kudpung! APerson (talk!) 02:59, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Please comment on Template talk:Infobox person

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{{done}} APerson (talk!) 13:40, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Bug in afdstats

Hi, you're listed as one of the maintainers here: [2] for the afdstats tool. There's a bug with it and it's unable to find the greyscale.css stylesheet. On this page [3] It's attempting to load it from here: [4] when the css file is actually located here [5]. Could you please fix this if you have time? I find the tool useful for keeping track of AfDs I've been involved in. ― Padenton|✉   00:49, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Padenton, since my PuTTY config is down briefly (read: can't connect to labs at the moment) and since I won't be around for the next few days, you probably want to try one of the other two maintainers of the tool. Sorry! APerson (talk!) 02:30, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Please comment on Template talk:Editnotices/Page/Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Rollback

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RfC: New helper policy

Hello member of Category:Wikipedians who use IRC! You are invited to join an ongoing discussion on Wikipedia talk:IRC/wikipedia-en-help aimed at defining a policy for prerequisites to being a helper in the "#wikipedia-en-help connect" channel in a section titled "New helper policy".

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Please comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)

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Please comment on Template talk:Cite isbn

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 Done APerson (talk!) 22:54, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

WT:AFCH script problems.

It seems that AFCH is no longer leaving decline notices on a users talk page when you decline it using the tool. I saw that you where a mantainer of the tool and wanted to bring the problem to your attention. A bug report was posted here. Thanks, TheMesquitobuzz 17:20, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

 Already fixed by Theopolisme. APerson (talk!) 22:46, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Reviewing

Hi, thanks for inviting me to the Teahouse back in January. I'm new to Wikipedia 5 months and 744 edits. I'm keen on helping with reviewing articles. I want to know what is the process. Thanks. Adyoo3 (talk) 05:17, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Adyoo3, it's awesome that you want to help out! First, make sure that you understand what sorts of articles belong on Wikipedia; lots of stuff has been written about the topic, but a great place to start would be the notability guideline. We have some instructions for reviewing articles, and after you've carefully read those and are confident that you understand the process there, you can add yourself to the list of reviewers. After you've added yourself, you'll be able to use the helper script, which makes reviewing a lot easier. Finally, pending submissions live at the pending submissions category, and you can find some to review there.
At first, you may want to stick to articles you are very, very confident about, such as submissions that are obviously attack pages or pages about people who obviously aren't notable (e.g. pages whose only content is "Foo Bar is the most awesome person ever!!!!"). Those can be most commonly found in the category of very new submissions, since easy reviews happen very fast.
Above all, be careful! For most of the people whose submissions you're reviewing, it's their first experience writing an article here. The experience they have often determines whether they'll come back and add more content or whether they'll leave Wikipedia, never to return.
If you have any questions about anything, feel free to ask me or another reviewer. Or, for questions specifically about reviewing, try the talk page set up for this purpose; for questions about the process, try the talk page of the project that runs all this.
Thank you again for offering to help out, and good luck reviewing! APerson (talk!) 19:58, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

WikiCup 2015 May newsletter

C/2014 Q2 (Lovejoy) is a long-period comet discovered on 17 August 2014 by Terry Lovejoy; and is one of several Featured Pictures worked up by India The Herald (submissions) during the second round.

The second round one has all wrapped up, and round three has now begun! Congratulations to the 34 contestants who have made it through, but well done and thank you to all contestants who took part in our second round. Leading the way overall was Belarus Cas Liber (submissions) in Group B with a total of 777 points for a variety of contributions including Good Articles on Corona Borealis and Microscopium - both of which received the maximum bonus.

Special credit must be given to a number of high importance articles improved during the second round.

The points varied across groups, with the lowest score required to gain automatic qualification was 68 in Group A - meanwhile the second place score in Group H was 404, which would have been high enough to win all but one of the other Groups! As well as the top two of each group automatically going through to the third round, a minimum score of 55 was required for a wildcard competitor to go through. We had a three-way tie at 55 points and all three have qualified for the next round, in the spirit of fairness. The third round ends on June 28, with the top two in each group progressing automatically while the remaining 16 highest scorers across all four groups go through as wildcards. Good luck to all competitors for the third round! Figureskatingfan (talk · contribs · email), Miyagawa (talk · contribs · email) and Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs · email) 16:58, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Persondata RfC

Hi, You participated in the previous Persondata RfC. I just wanted to notify you that a new RfC regarding the methodical removal of Persondata is taking place at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals). Thanks, —Msmarmalade (talk) 07:53, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

 Commented there APerson (talk!) 05:56, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:TransAsia Airways Flight 235

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 Not done, navbox inclusion discussion ≠ technical discussion. APerson (talk!) 05:55, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aviation

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 Not done: again, navbox inclusion ≠ a technical issue. APerson (talk!) 05:56, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Help with reviewing

I'm reviewing my first article, I need a second opinion. This is the draft https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Phylogenetic_Species_Concept

I want to decline it as I found this subject at these links https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Species#Phylogenetic_.28cladistic.29_species And https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phylogenetics But want to suggest the author to improve on the former link as it needs citations.

What happens when I hit Decline and should I put a comment on why it was declined(what does it mean use Wikicode syntax?)

Thanks.Adyoo3 (talk) 09:40, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Adyoo3, when you hit "Decline", the script marks the draft as having been declined, signalling to the person who wrote the draft that improvement is needed before the draft can become an article. It also leaves a note on the user's talk page that the draft was declined. Regarding the comment, the stuff you write in the box will become a comment under the declined box on the draft. "Use wikicode syntax" just means that you can use plain old MediaWiki markup (i.e. make links with [[Foo]]) inside that box.
I get what you're saying about how the subject of the draft is already covered by other Wikipedia articles. What reviewers should consider here is whether Wikipedia would be better served by having an article on this sort-of-separate topic, the method biologists use to check when a group of organisms represents a new species. The draft includes quite a bit of new content, so I would think a little bit more about whether the information here can be just merged into those other two articles.
In the end, it's your call about whether the article should be created. Have fun reviewing! APerson (talk!) 00:23, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)

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 Already done APerson (talk!) 00:23, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Reviewing my second article

Thanks for your earlier advice, I have declined my first article but gave the same advice to the author about merging articles or considering writing a more comprehensive article. For my second article for review I need a second opinion. I want to accept an article. But I find myself doing a lot editing. Should I decline it and ask the author to make corrections and edits instead?

I have edited the Introduction and Early Life section of this well cited and researched article to sound more like an encyclopedia entry> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Surf_Dog_Ricochet#Merchandising

The Community Out Reach section is very comprehensive, should it be cut down since the dog's website has a lot of the facts stated here. The Merchandising section sounds like an advertisement. I think the citations should not lead to Amazon.com or places books are sold but instead to articles about the book, am I correct?

In general, I think there are too many citations. The author references the dog's website, YouTube or news videos. Should I remove entries like the Marmaduke movie sentence as the only citation is at the dog's website? How would you rewrite the Media Apperance section.

I think Notoriety & Recognition can be combined. The External links can be cut down too.

Thank you Adyoo3 (talk) 08:43, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Adyoo3, quick note about the citations: too many citations isn't a problem, but citations have to be to reliable sources. YouTube, as a self-published source, generally doesn't count as reliable. The tone of the article, especially the "Early Life" section, diverges way too much from the expected tone of an article, so I would have declined the article for that. WP:TONE and WP:NPOV are a guideline and a policy (respectively) about what such an "expected tone" is. APerson (talk!) 18:47, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Participant

I notice this message AFCH error: user not listed and checked the list my name was gone. I put my name again but I cannot get the reviewers script to work again. I wonder what happened? Was I removed from the list for some reason, I didn't get any messages as such. Adyoo3 (talk) 16:13, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Looks like Sminthopsis84 took you off the list, with the edit summary "Still hasn't been editing articles." As you clearly have over 500 mainspace edits, I've re-added you, and you should be able to review again. I'll just wait for Sminthopsis84 to comment here. Meanwhile, keep up the good work! I've been looking through your reviews, and a lot of them are pretty good. A few things to watch:
  • Draft:Net neutrality in Singapore was marked as non-notable web content, but that's the reason for articles about websites and other things that are on the web, not just things that are related to the web.
  • Draft:Lumicrine - watch the reason you're using again; here, the issue may be less with the tone than with the demonstrated notability of the article.
In general, when giving a policy as a reason for something, such as "WP:N", try to make it a wikilink to the policy so those less familiar with all of the arcane abbreviations used here can click through to the policy. Finally, again, as you're getting started, try to concentrate your reviewing on the drafts that are obviously quick declines. Thanks! APerson (talk!) 16:35, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
Perhaps I was too hasty. I used the previous removal which Adyoo3 reversed, saw that the date was May 10th, that there had been no article edits since then. I have not been able to access the edit-count tool, so cannot be certain. Backing off now. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 16:43, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Please comment on MediaWiki talk:Tag-OneClickArchiver

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Template:Infobox beach

On 6 March 2015 you moved code to {{Infobox beach}}. Are you aware that the template is essentially same as the 23 March 2012 revision of {{Infobox protected area}}, only with some very minor differences?[6] Even the documentation is that of IPA. --AussieLegend (✉) 17:01, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

AussieLegend, no, I didn't check whether the template was a duplicate. Pinging Peaceray, who created the template. Maybe it would be better just to move it back to his sandbox? APerson (talk!) 18:28, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
That's probably best. In its present form it's TfD fodder. It should probably be rebuilt from scratch as it doesn't serve any useful purpose. --AussieLegend (✉) 18:31, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, please put it back in my sandbox; it was nowhere near primetime. Peaceray (talk)
Looks like it's been {{done}} by Huon. APerson (talk!) 00:39, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Musicians

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{{done}} APerson (talk!) 19:43, 16 May 2015 (UTC)


Please comment on Module talk:Main

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{{done}} APerson (talk!) 18:37, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)

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{{done}} APerson (talk!) 18:31, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Quixotic plea

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Wikipediholism test. Thanks. — {{U|Technical 13}} (e • t • c) 03:33, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

{{done}}, although I was a bit late to the discussion. APerson (talk!) 18:30, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
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