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If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me on my talk page. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:09, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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We also provide style advice about the structure and content of medicine-related encyclopedia articles. The welcome page is another good place to learn about editing the encyclopedia. If you have any questions, please feel free to drop me a note. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 00:25, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]


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Several trials have indicated that methocarbamol is an efficient and well-tolerated option in acute lower back pain and the associated restrictions of mobility.[1]

The reference is good but I am not seeing were it mentioned methocarbamol? I looked at the full text and see zero mention at all? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 20:57, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Thank you for bringing this to my attention. The article is vague about skeletal muscle relaxants but does draw conclusions from other publications that include methocarbamol. Those references are scare in this edition of the article and that is my mistake now that I've looked more closely. The previous edition in 2007 that I was working with[2] was much more explicit in references to articles containing methocarbamol. Such as [3] and [4]. However, neither of these sources are great for directly citing in the wiki article as they do not provide new or definitive information for methocarbamol specifically. They only adds to the inconsistent results that is already mentioned in the article by a more reputable secondary source. I believe the removal of the source and information was appropriate.


I apologize for any confusion and I will work more closely with the source material when it is being vague. I appreciate the back and forth and I believe this only adds to the credibility of the site. I would like to be on the other side of the mistakes from now on though. Thanks again.DocWock (talk) 01:40, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
No worries. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 23:48, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Chou, Roger; Deyo, Richard; Friedly, Janna; Skelly, Andrea; Weimer, Melissa; Fu, Rochelle; Dana, Tracy; Kraegel, Paul; Griffin, Jessica; Grusing, Sara (2017-04-04). "Systemic Pharmacologic Therapies for Low Back Pain: A Systematic Review for an American College of Physicians Clinical Practice Guideline". Annals of Internal Medicine. 166 (7): 480–492. doi:10.7326/M16-2458. ISSN 1539-3704. PMID 28192790.
  2. ^ Chou, Roger (October 2007). "Medications for Acute and Chronic Low Back Pain: A Review of the Evidence for an American Pain Society/American College of Physicians Clinical Practice Guideline". Annals of Internal Medicine. 147 (7): 505–514. doi:10.7326/0003-4819-147-7-200710020-00008. PMID 17909211.
  3. ^ van Tulder, MW (April 2003). "Muscle relaxants for non-specific low back pain". Cochrane Database Systematic Review. 2. doi:10.1002/14651858.CD004252. PMID 12804507.
  4. ^ Schnitzer, TJ (September 2003). "A comprehensive review of clinical trials on the efficacy and safety of drugs for the treatment of low back pain". Spine. 28 (17): 1978–92. doi:10.1097/01.BRS.0000090503.38830.AD. PMID 12973146.

Close paraphrasing

You added the text

"Severe hypersensitivity reactions to benzonatate, including bronchospasm, laryngospasm, and cardiovascular collapse, are have been reported and are possibly related to local anesthesia from sucking or chewing on the capsule instead of swallowing it."

Ref says

"Severe hypersensitivity reactions (including bronchospasm, laryngospasm and cardiovascular collapse) have been reported which are possibly related to local anesthesia from sucking or chewing the capsule instead of swallowing it. Severe reactions have required intervention with vasopressor agents and supportive measures."

These are too close.[1] Please note that the product label is written by the manufacturing not the NIH and thus is not in the public domain as far as I am aware. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 23:48, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the critique. I can definitely see your concern. I did not realize that the package insert was not FDA approved and public language. I have seen similar language, specifically (laryngospasm, bronchospasm, and circulatory collapse) in that order in other sources such as (https://secure.medicalletter.org/w1562b#cgh4), (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28334901/) as well as (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21304443) and on the package insert and drugs.com. It is difficult to tell who exactly pioneered the sentence structure but in any case, I believe I can do a better job paraphrasing in the information while retaining the original meaning. I will change the information to
Similarly, severe hypersensitivity reactions to benzonatate have been reported and include symptoms of laryngospasm, bronchospasm, and cardiovascular collapse.[1][2] These reactions are possibly associated with chewing, sucking, or crushing the capsule in the mouth.[1][3]
This will allow the transition to the next section on improper use and varies the language compared to the sources enough I hope. There is definitely some lack of information in the literature about hypersensitivity reactions to benzonatate when not crushed or chewed. However, there is literature on other local anesthetic hypersensitivity but may be off topic on this page. Any comments?
Thank you. DocWock (talk) 00:47, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ a b "Tessalon - benzonatate capsule". DailyMed. 20 November 2019. Retrieved 21 April 2020.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
  2. ^ "Drugs for Cough". The Medical Letter on Drugs and Therapeutics. 60 (1562): 206–208. 17 December 2018.
  3. ^ Bishop-Freeman SC, Shonsey EM, Friederich LW, Beuhler MC, Winecker RE (June 2017). "Benzonatate Toxicity: Nothing to Cough At". J Anal Toxicol. 41 (5): 461–463. doi:10.1093/jat/bkx021. PMID 28334901.
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