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Pentecostal beliefs

I am Pentecostal so I know what we believe and it is wrong of you to put out wrong info about my Religion! —Preceding unsigned comment added by RLJ13 (talk • contribs) 05:56, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for writing me. Here is the edit to which you are referring.
I have no particular interest in pentecostalism and do not care how you change that article. I found your edit when I was reviewing recent changes to Wikipedia, and not because I was watching that article. I reverted your edits only because you removed referenced content from Wikipedia. Also, when you removed the sentence, you only removed part of it so you left words floating in the paragraph and an open tag which caused an error message to display on the page.
Please do not be discouraged. If you are new to Wikipedia and would like to read a tutorial to learn how to make edits which are likely to stay, then visit WP:TUTOR. Blue Rasberry 14:42, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Gheorghe Cristescu

Just a joke dude... just wanted to let you know —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.78.14.193 (talk) 16:57, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

You are referring to this edit. Wikipedia is continually vandalized and people like me review every edit, with several people checking every edit. When I see something that is not encyclopedic, I revert it. So that is how that works.
No worries about the joke. A lot of people start their interaction with Wikipedia by testing to see if the system really works. If someday you want to make serious edits, then your contribution would be appreciated and lots of people - like me - are here to help you with any trouble you have. Cheers, have fun, and thanks for being cool! Blue Rasberry 17:03, 30 August 2010 (UTC)


Tree shaping

Thanks for voicing your opinion on the NPOVN, and the Tree shaping talk page. I have removed the Artistic controversy and changed it to Naming of art form with a quote by Ivan Hicks, I paraphrased the author's feeling about the word, with cites. I have removed 3 instances of Arborsculpture from the article. I going to leave the rest for now and work on checking the cites for reliability. Blackash have a chat 15:08, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

The weirdest thing just happened

Lane, I finally got your e-mails from the East Africa case, apparently Gmail lost them somehow. Wish I would have gotten your warning about striking option one a lot sooner we could have avoided that whole row. Ronk01 talk 15:09, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

At the time I checked your user history to see if you were crazy and found no supporting evidence of that, so I was a little confused. This discussion has attracted all types. It was probably better that you got booted quickly, just because this is a mediation which others will probably re-read and it is probably for the best that a media cabal organizer has been watching this, even if he did not do much. I would work with you again in the future - ask me if something comes up. Blue Rasberry 21:06, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
I can assure you that I am not crazy (though I am fairly sure that certain mediation participants are). I've been talking to a few of the remaining editors in an effort to formulate some kind of positive result. If you want you could join in on the mediation page. Ronk01 talk 21:21, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
Not even a little crazy? You have been responding to a proposal I just made on the mediation page. Blue Rasberry 21:50, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, I'm probably a bit crazy (most surgeons are, you should be afraid of the sane ones). Ronk01 talk 22:04, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Re: Warning

Hi, am I fine to strike out your warning you gave me, because it seems your edit was reverted, I think its because I'm no longer on the Huggle whitelist, and you reverted my revert.. feel free to check the history :) --LcawteHuggle (talk) 16:51, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

You removed obvious vandalism and I reverted to the vandalized version. This was definitely my mistake, and I said so on your talk page. Blue Rasberry 16:57, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Pending changes/Straw poll on interim usage

Hi. As you recently commented in the straw poll regarding the ongoing usage and trial of Pending changes, this is to notify you that there is an interim straw poll with regard to keeping the tool switched on or switching it off while improvements are worked on and due for release on November 9, 2010. This new poll is only in regard to this issue and sets no precedent for any future usage. Your input on this issue is greatly appreciated. Off2riorob (talk) 23:28, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Your involvement

Can you please continue your part in the discussion at Category talk:Hindu terrorism? If it is just left to Pectore and myself (and we are opposed to each other's opinion), then there will definitely be no consensus made. SilverserenC 22:29, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Reply here. Blue Rasberry 04:35, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Meth Project Minor Edits

Hi Bluerasberry,

I totally understand your concern over removing information; it would be a great help, however, if you could redo your edit so that it undoes the removal, instead of the other four changes (many of which contain verb tense changes, and replacing "MMP" with "Montana Meth Project". It would also be helpful if you could undo your edits so that the first paragraph explains that there are seven state programs as of 2010 (not 2009).

Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Notevenonce (talk • contribs) 22:08, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Here are the edits which I reverted. I do not see any verb tense changes, nor do I see where you replaced "MMP" with "Montana Meth Project." The acronym "MMP" is used throughout the article, so I did not see the usefulness of you removing the establishment of the acronym in the lede. Here is the rule about this.
2009 was the year when seven state programs came to be, so I think it would be incorrect to say this happened in 2010. However, I see you have already changed this yourself and the MMP does not date their announcements on the source page, so I suppose it should stay.
I am not taking any action at this time as you seem to already be editing things as you like. Thanks for working on the article and keep up the good work. Blue Rasberry 16:22, 28 September 2010 (UTC)


This seems to be in response to me reformatting someone's reference; I assume Shovon76 had a problem with the person posting the statement referenced. My reply to this user is here. Blue Rasberry 01:28, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Renaming of category

I have proposed here to rename Category:Hindu terrorism to Category:Hindutva terrorism, as to be more accurate to the meaning that the terrorism is politically and nationally motivated and not religiously motivated. Please join the discussion. SilverserenC 22:24, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Your Comment on Talk Tree shaping page

Hi, I thought you may be interested in the fact that your comment on Tree shaping talk page has been taken out of context and used to give the impression of support for removal of cite text. Link Blackash have a chat 01:48, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for coming and clarifying exactly what you thought on the talk page. I did put back the Alternative names section and give my reasoning on the talk page, if you want links to diffs or stuff in the history that I have referred to let me know and I find them. I left your other changes in place. Blackash have a chat 09:15, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Edit to "Lady Mastermind - Powers and abilities"

Hey. Sorry about that. You messaged me on my edit on Lady Mastermind's page; specifically, her powers and abilities. I was adding on to the part where it is already mentioned that "She also carries two handguns in the belt of her X-Men uniform. These are not illusions." I thought the last bit about them not being illusions was a touch of humor, and just thought I'd play around with that bit. You know, extend the humor. Sorry if it wasn't appropriate.

-"roundglasskeys"

60.51.89.90 (talk) 15:57, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

It's totally cool. Consider getting a username and come ask me if you need any help with anything. I replied on your page also. Blue Rasberry 16:00, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

I am sorry?

Why I am being "censored" repeatedly? Is this not "The Free Encyclopaedia?" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.249.208.186 (talk) 20:34, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

No need to be sorry, but be cool. You made a gay joke here and it is not cool to talk about people's sexuality without their permission. Blue Rasberry 20:37, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

If it was not a gay joke, would it be accepted? 20:39, 28 October 2010 (UTC)88.249.208.186 (talk)

You made a similar edit without the gay joke and I did not revert that because it looked okay to me. Someone else reverted it; I do not know why. I cannot say what other people will do, but generally you need to cite a source for your statement if you want to be sure it stays on Wikipedia. Blue Rasberry 20:56, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
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Whats your problem?

why are you not letting me edit on Kibera I know Kibera better than you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.215.93.239 (talk) 17:58, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Obvious vandalism. Blue Rasberry 19:35, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

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Talk:George Fernandes/GA1

Hi, are you planning on concluding this review any time soon? It has been marked under review for two months. Instructions on closing at WP:GAN. You also need to inform the nominator that a review is under way. Jezhotwells (talk) 15:24, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

This is done now. Blue Rasberry 16:55, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

User talk:142.227.126.65

This talk page is covered with years of warnings. Is there a way to trim it down to make it more manageable? Cheers, Cracked acorns (talk) 18:57, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, you create a talkpage archive. You can do it manually or set up a bot to do it. I use User:MiszaBot III. Write me anytime! Blue Rasberry 19:04, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
I don't feel right archiving someone else's talk page.Cracked acorns (talk) 19:24, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
Archiving is the standard way to trim talk page messages. It is strange to do this to another entity but the page in question is an anonymous IP associated with a school, so my opinion is that you should do what is practical to ensure your communication gets read. What sort of solution were you seeking? Blue Rasberry 20:07, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
Not sure. But if cutting the old and leaving a link to the old edit while leaving the fresh, then OK. Still. Refactoring another's comments. Oh, well.Cracked acorns (talk) 21:14, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
Well yes, WP:REFACTOR is where the policy is. If this were an article talk page then this would be unambiguously all right, but we are talking about a user page so this is invasive. However, this is a user page for multiple users and Wikipedia does not recognize the legitimacy of multiuser accounts, so it is my opinion that if you think it would improve the page to move old comments to an archive then you have my support. Blue Rasberry 23:32, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

<-- thanks.Cracked acorns (talk) 23:37, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

changing photos???

hi! i am trying to change a photo on the timber timbre page and have almost managed to be blocked by wiki altogether. i do not understand how this works. please help? and please reply on my talk page?

Tt1981 (talk) 21:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Replied here. Blue Rasberry 23:41, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

ramdev and homophobia

if u think beinging homo is a good choice, why dont u try it, and totaly follow it

Hope meet ur DNA after 100 year —Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.107.194.129 (talk) 15:39, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Warned on talk page. Blue Rasberry 15:47, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Removed entry

Hello sir,

My name is Tim Palmer, a notable alumni from Longmeadow High school. My accomplishments have been removed from the wikipedia page. Please help.

Thank you,

Tim Palmer (timpalmer73@gmail.com) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.109.30.24 (talk) 20:27, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for writing. Here is the latest of your edits; can you provide a source proving your notability as a wizard? Blue Rasberry 20:30, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

re: Daniel J Smith;

The featured person is a management director of Athlone Group - already on wikipedia, how can this not be suitable for wikipedia if Athlone Group is already approved?

Marcel8hudson (talk) 22:35, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

There is one existing problem and one problem which could occur.
The problem which exists is that you have not indicated how this person's relationship with that organization makes him notable. All organizations have management directors; very often even the top people in large companies are not notable.
The problem which has not arisen is that assuming that this person is notable, you must provide third-party reliable sources which indicate this person's notability. Right now, you have no indication of notability but if you had that you still would need good sources reviewing your article's subject. If he is only named then that is not a good source - someone totally unaffiliated with Mr. Smith must have published a review of his work. Please continue to write me with questions if you have them. Blue Rasberry 22:50, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Yes, in fact there are several news references including a yahoo news release ; http://news.yahoo.com/s/prweb/20101217/bs_prweb/prweb4904214 and also americanbankingnews.com

Marcel8hudson (talk) 23:11, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Please provide a link to the americanbankingnews.com article if you want me to review it. The Yahoo! article is about internet business. It has a short profile of Dan Smith's company, but the article is not about the company. In the context of getting information about the company, it gets a quote from Dan Smith, but the article ought not to be said to be reporting about Dan Smith. If this article was used to verify minor details, like the company's success in hard times, then that would be fine. But those details should only come after another article has verified basic notability. Do you understand how this article does not relate to the criteria in WP:notability? Blue Rasberry 23:21, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Yes I believe I understand, so how about if I create an article about the company with reference to the news? (the american banking site quoted the same news) - and then re-add the individuals page later if/when I find suitable notability?

Thx

Marcel8hudson (talk) 23:27, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Again, that article talks about the company but the discussion is incidental and another company could have been profiled. There is not really ambiguity about this; unless you have a reliable source which reviews the company for the sake of providing information about the company, and not for the sake of describing the effects of - for example - market conditions, then the article is not going to withstand community review.
If you want to check other sources then I can. Another general indicator of notability is that there ought not be a shortage of sources for notable, active companies in developed countries. And if you want second opinions about any of this, then please do not be shy in asking me about how you can get more information or talk to a person who specializes in any particular policy. Blue Rasberry 23:41, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

"Vandalism"

Leaving a message for a friend is not vandalism ._. HerroLink 05:19, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I will stay out of whatever is happening. It looks like that user just got warned by someone else not to bother you.
Here is the edit you made; it looked like you were participating in some kind of teasing, but I apologize. Blue Rasberry 05:31, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

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Thanks for your visit from NPOV

Thank you for visiting from the NPOV forum concerning POV at the "chemtrail conspiracy theory" page. I found an article that might be useful in my argument that chemtrails are being used to refer to geoengineering, and not always by conspiracy theorists. It seems like an article that would work as RS, but the POV problem becomes obvious when you consider how the congressperson might feel being included in "conspiracy theory" when she is addressing geoengineering (an absolute undisputed fact). Thank you very much for any help you can offer...

"PHOENIX - She might be retired from political life, but former state senator Karen Johnson is not retired from being an activist. After serving in the House of Representatives for eight years and the senate for four, Johnson retired in 2008 to her home in Linden where she now has time to garden and become more active in issues that concern her.
One of these issues took her on a recent trip back to the state capital to try to bring the subject of chemtrails and geoengineering to her former colleagues, including Governor Jan Brewer and Senator Sylvia Allen..." [1] 174.74.68.103 (talk) 03:31, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, make that 'former state senator' rather than congressperson. 174.74.68.103 (talk) 03:32, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Warning

i never edited durham public schools page infact i never even visited it until i saw the warning —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.134.53.119 (talk) 05:33, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

I posted a warning to a shared IP. Blue Rasberry 15:46, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Deleting new material, rather than flagging and discussing issues to be improved

Hello -=- I left a post under the discussion for Salmon as well, but I want to ask you to revert the deletion of material from a student, new contributor to Wikipedia. I have asked my students in a conservation course to contribute at least some of their case study projects to Wikipedia. I am simulataneously editing their material, and have both already gone over Wikipedia's rules and best practices, as well as reminding them of these - and those of good scholarship in general - in my edits. Students mess up. This fellow has posted with a bias (violating NPOV) and is weak in his citation use. It would be more helpful to flag the entry rather than immediately remove it. It has confused him and has a pretty huge psychological effect once he understood what happened. A flag is as effective, I think, and if ignored, then you can remove the offending section, but to remove it first makes a new user feel very, very much excluded. I'd appreciate your reverting his text.

Best wishes, Martha Groom, UW BothellBothell130 (talk) 17:10, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Here is the edit your student made and here is the explanation I posted immediately after I reverted the post and put a welcome message on that user's page. In response to you I wrote on the salmon talk page asking to bring all discussion here.
Wikipedia is continually live and continually published. Because it is live, there is no flagging procedure and any material which is not in accord with policy must be immediately deleted. His edit will remain in the history section of the page forever, regardless of my deletion, and anyone can see this.
I apologize for confusing him or causing a psychological effect, but I assert that what I have done is correct and that what you are suggesting is incorrect. The traditional policy on this was WP:MERCILESS, saying that "Your contributions can be edited mercilessly." This is still the case even if such blunt language is not as often put forward, but even merciless people are not allowed to WP:BITE and I do not think that I did.
If your student understands what is wrong then I hope there is no problem. If your student does not understand what is wrong then I hope he can come to my talk page and ask questions of me. I cannot revert his text as this is in violation of Wikipedia policy, so I am unable to fulfill your request at this time. If your student wants my help then he could put his text in a sandbox and I will help him there.
It so happens that I also live in Seattle even though right now I am in India with a specific agenda to teach Wikipedia use to people here. When I return in the summer if you like then we can me up and talk about Wikipedia in person. Thoughts? Blue Rasberry (talk) 19:10, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
Really Bluerasberry, WP:MERCILESS is not a current guideline, and you should not be directing new users to it as though it were a guideline. --Epipelagic (talk) 21:18, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
Thanks Epipelagic. It is not, I called it a traditional policy, I used past tense, and I said that this kind of language is not presented to everyone. However, in this case I think that this was the most appropriate statement to show. "Your contributions can be edited mercilessly" is a maxim has been meaningful and encouraging to me because I feel good when I know that I am getting no mercy and that my work really is standing on its own merits and not because of social decorum. I think it is important to be frank in stating that Wikipedia can operate in no other way.
Can you please help me with this? I need to know how I should answer this for when it comes up again in the future, and also there is a teacher and a class of new users who also would like to know right now. You came to my page because I provided good linking to all parts of this conversation on the article page in question and the page of the teacher and the student involved. I wanted you here because I wanted to know what other Wikipedians think should be done. Please state something. Blue Rasberry (talk) 02:43, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Tree shaping

There is a proposed Topic Ban for Blackash and Slowart on Tree shaping related articles at the Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents As you have had some involvement with these editors in question, you may wish to comment. Blackash have a chat 00:03, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Talk:International AIDS Vaccine Initiative

Hello Bluerasberry, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Talk:International AIDS Vaccine Initiative, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: G2 - not a test page, the comment could be removed as off-topic but the article talk page need not be deleted. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. Fæ (talk) 12:05, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Category talk:HIV prevention tools - citation needed

Hi Blueraspberry

The UK has excellent prevention resources, particularly the detailed reference book (with full citations) 'HIV Prevention'. http://www.aidsmap.com/Prevention/cat/1452/ The book is available free online and is regularly updated (click the book image).

That should be good for a broad HIV prevention tools citation I think.

I'll respond to your other request in HIV Prevention

regards Skinscribe Manchester, England — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skinscribe (talk • contribs) 14:22, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

HIV Prevention /* Sorry that I am without references */ Good external links

Hi Blueraspberry

Really pleased to see you working on filling the HIV prevention gap in WP 

'I would really like to find is some list somewhere from a WP:RS which has all of these strategies for prevention organized in a list.'

I think the excellent UK site aidsmap does just what you need http://www.aidsmap.com/Prevention/cat/1452/ neatly lists prevention topics:

Topics in this section 

   * Condoms and lubricant
   * Prevention of mother-to-child transmission
   * Injecting drug use
   * Circumcision
   * PEP
   * PrEP
   * Behaviour change interventions
   * Microbicides
   * Vaccines
   * Treatment as prevention
   * Spermwashing
   * Epidemiology and behaviour

and their brilliant book 'HIV Prevention' is here online http://www.aidsmap.com/resources/Preventing-HIV/page/1412415/


Good external links "There are lots of websites which talk about one or a few prevention strategies, but does anyone know any websites which discuss most or all of the ones on this page?" see above


May I suggest some sources for developing HIV Prevention, HIV Prevention Tools and the pages within this?


For HIV prevention work in practice see

- for working with gay/bi/men who have sex with men in England, 'Making It Count' http://www.chapsonline.org.uk/Who-we-are/Making-it-count

Making It Count Briefing Sheets are handy summaries of the evidence on important HIV prevention and sexual health issues for gay/bi/MSM.

already available are 

   * Using fear in HIV prevention
   * Herpes
   * LGV
   * Gonorrhoea, chlamydia and non-gonococcal urethritis (NGU)
   * Hepatitis C
   * Social marketing.

Future Briefings will soon be added for 

   * Poppers
   * Microbicides
   * PEP
   * Undiagnosed HIV infection.

Making It Count Briefing Sheets http://www.sigmaresearch.org.uk/go.php?/projects/gay/mic_briefing_sheets/


- for working with Black Africans living in England 'The National African HIV Prevention Programme' has produced 'The Knowledge, The Will and The Power' and 'The African HIV Prevention Handbook' http://kwp.org.uk/

England's Department of Health funds this work with gay/bi/MSM men and with Black Africans living in England. In practice these prevention strategies and working documents are used across the UK.


Preventing mother to baby transmission - the British HIV Association has Guidelines http://www.bhiva.org/PregnantWomen2008.aspx

and the position statement 'BHIVA and CHIVA Position Statement on Infant Feeding in the UK' http://www.bhiva.org/BHIVA-CHIVA-PositionStatement.aspx

They have other useful Guidelines here http://www.bhiva.org/PublishedandApproved.aspx

including 'UK Guidelines for the management of sexual and reproductive health of people living with HIV infection (2008)' which addresses some aspects of onward transmission and,

PEPSE Guidelines http://www.bhiva.org/PEPSE-Consultation.aspx


I recommend you add a page(s) on testing. A major issue is undiagnosed HIV - in the UK roughly 1 in 3 people with HIV are undiagnosed; effective HIV prevention requires us to

- reduce the % of people who are undiagnosed

- reduce the length of time people remain undiagnosed, where high levels of late diagnosis is also a significant issue for unaware onward transmission

- increase the detection of people with highly infectious acute infection

- help people at risk recognise when they may have acute infection and get tested / be especially careful to avoid onward transmission

- improve clinicians' ability to recognise both acute and symptomatic HIV, and not be embarrassed about asking about risk behaviours and to recommend testing

- make HIV testing routine and opt-out rather than opt-in in higher prevalence areas


I recommend that you consider page(s) specifically addressing the prevention of onward transmission needs of people diagnosed with HIV

- “Positive Health, Dignity and Prevention” from UNAIDS http://www.unaids.org/en/resources/presscentre/featurestories/2010/march/20100326phdp2/

has links to the Publications:

- Positive Health,Dignity and Prevention, and

- Advancing the Sexual and Reproductive Health and Human Rights of People Living with HIV

and see the work of the 'Global Network of People Living with HIV' on this http://www.gnpplus.net/en/programmes/sexual-and-reproductive-health-and-human-rights


I recommend a page on Treatment Adherence Treatment adherence makes a huge difference to the likelihood of HIV transmission by people diagnosed with HIV who are on treatment with an undetectable viral load; good adherence is therefore an element in any effective 'combination-prevention' approach to HIV prevention among people diagnosed with HIV; the expectations on clinicians are set out here http://www.bhiva.org/Adherence2001.aspx


A page on the concept of combination-prevention would be useful


PrEP guidelines are at an early stage of development in the UK; the USA's interim guidelines are here http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/prep/


Preventing HIV transmission amongst IDU is far less an issue in England (England adopted IDU harm minimisation very early, so the HIV rate among IDU is low), so there are no formal English strategy and practice documents that I know of. The reference book 'HIV Prevention' (first line above) references and describes the evidence

You may also find these useful http://www.nelm.nhs.uk/en/NeLM-Area/News/2010---March/01/HIV-prevention-treatment-and-care-services-for-people-who-inject-drugs-a-systematic-review-of-global-regional-and-national-coverage/ and http://drugprevent.org.uk/ppp/research/hiv-and-injecting-drug-users/


The British Association for Sexual Health and HIV also publish a set of useful guidelines http://www.bashh.org/guidelines

- Sexual Assault guideline (2011)

- March 2011 : Draft HIV PEPSE guideline (2011) (in collaboration with BHIVA)

- Feb 2011: Draft UK Guidelines on Safer Sex Advice (2011) [for use in STI clinics, by doctors and health advisers]


Blood and tissue screening (see reference book 'HIV Prevention' first line above) and http://hivinsite.ucsf.edu/InSite?page=kb-07-02-09


Global World Health Organisation has a section on prevention http://www.who.int/hiv/topics/en/


In the USA The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/ http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/reports/hiv_prev_us.htm


San Francisco has an ethically dubious strategy designed to lower the average VL level in the city's population, by widespread repeated testing, and treating all diagnosed people whatever their CD4 count (ethically dubious in the view of the HIV sector in the UK because they do not tell individuals that the strategy means some people are being put on treatment for public health reasons, when there is no consensus evidence that this would be personally beneficial - viz treatment when CD4 is above 500 - http://sfhiv.org/community.php )


In Canada http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/aids-sida/links-eng.php http://www.catie.ca/eng/PreventingHIV/PreventingHIVIndex.shtml


Pages on issues that detract from preventing HIV would be useful such as

- prosecutions for exposure and transmission

- the role of stigma and discrimination around HIV, and also sexuality, IDU

- anxiety, depression and other aspects of mental ill-health (issues of self esteem etc)

- alcohol and drug use, including poppers

- poverty, social exclusion, social disadvantage, poor educational attainment, young people in state care, and inexperienced/poorly educated young people

- poor state sexual health education (especially of gay/bi youth)


At the recent CHAPS conference here in Manchester, England, (CHAPS is the English gay/bi/MSM HIV prevention partnership) I gave a presentation on the effectiveness (or rather ineffectiveness) of undiagnosed gay/bi men relying on disclosure by men with HIV as a way of avoiding HIV. You can download HIV Talking and Telling here http://www.ght.org.uk/news/article/39186/28/02/2011/Talking_and_Telling_about_HIV

This should keep you busy

best regards from another rainy city Skinscribe (talk) 16:30, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Working on it

Got your message here and I think I can review the following articles for content as well as Wikipedia style and tone:

I will take a look at the rest as soon as possible but I feel less capable to review those in content terms (as I have done some research in housing segregation). If you like I can give the remainder of articles a more thorough non-content review after the above three are done. I should be able to get to these tonight or tomorrow. Protonk (talk) 20:56, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

I should have made it clear - non-content review is fine. The students are getting content review from their teacher, peers, and others, but if you have something to add then please do. A little bit of review about wikifying and Wikipedia peculiarities is sufficient. And another thing - would you support (even without committing time to) a pool wherein students being served by a campus ambassador program get special attention when they do work? I think it would be a good idea for new students and editors in this program to quickly get review if they want it, and for them not to have to wait in queues for things like article creation. I appreciate your doing this - please call on me also sometime. Blue Rasberry (talk) 21:10, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
Ok. I'll try and rephrase. I'm much more confident reviewing the above articles given that I have some knowledge of the underlying content. I'm not trying to recapitulate an academic assessment. Content, POV and comprehensiveness are important from our standpoint as Wikipedians. The same goes for evaluating sources. I promise not to step out of my role.
A pool would be a neat idea, but it would have to be managed with some more specialized software than we have right now. What we would really want to see is student edits (or articles) placed into a queue and ambassadors select articles or blocks of articles to work on. Once those are selected the queue is refreshed to show only unclaimed articles and the claimed articles have a timer set. After a certain period of time (maybe a week) unreviewed but claimed articles sort back into the unclaimed queue at the top. We could do this now with table markups but editing the list would be complicated and unwieldy. Hope that helps. Protonk (talk) 22:50, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Update on 3 articles

I left detailed comments on three articles (links below go directly to the review):

I may come back to Housing trust fund, Green building in the United States and Non-Profit Housing Development in the United States tomorrow but I don't feel I can provide any decent feedback on Residential Segregation. That article is much to big to cover in a detailed fashion and I don't see that much recent activity so it would be difficult to provide feedback which would mainly help students in your course working on the article.

I hope my style of review fits your expectations. I reviewed the above article in the same manner as I would review any good article nominee except I refrained from offering a plethora of suggestions for additional sources or major new directions in content. If you are looking for an assessment which covers only Wikipedia specific problems and bright spot I can do that as well and email it to you or post it on your talk page but I feel such a review would be unsuitable for the article talk page. In general the three articles I looked at were good (certainly better than the average non-stub wikipedia article) but each had their own issues. Some due to the difficulty of the subject area (specifically with Housing quality and health outcomes in the United States) but some due to unfamiliarity with the markup and style expectations. I hope that helps. I'll check back when I have taken a look at some of the other articles. Protonk (talk) 06:04, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

I need some time to look this over and get feedback from the professor, but I am very pleased with what you did. Thanks a lot - I am sure that everyone involved will be impressed. I will write more later. Blue Rasberry (talk) 19:10, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

one more

More comments there than in the others but I feel that like the article on housing quality the goal of the trust fund article was pretty ambitious and considering that fact the editors did a good job. Protonk (talk) 22:42, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

I have an appointment to get some feedback on this in person on Friday. If not sooner, I will relay feedback to you after that. I also talked to someone at WMF about this today and told her that I want to be there for other ambassadors who need review like this. I told her about your proposal and plan to continue this conversation with others. Thanks again. Blue Rasberry (talk) 22:46, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
On another note, do you want me to just push Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Non-Profit Housing Development in the United States into the mainspace? It looks fine for a new article to me. Protonk (talk) 22:50, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
If you would, I would appreciate it. I looked it over also, made a note on the talk page, and when the student did not respond the professor did. I did not get to doing this since then. Blue Rasberry (talk) 22:59, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
Ok, done. Protonk (talk) 23:17, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
I have a small update on the article here. tl;dr I discovered how bare the available sourcing was when attempting to improve the article myself. Protonk (talk) 20:49, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Green building

That article is a bit more problematic than the rest. I apologize for reviewing that one later in the queue because I suspect most of the students are done with substantive work on the articles now and this one may need some improvement. Protonk (talk) 23:11, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

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