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Recently, I was preparing to re-write some sections of WP:Copyvio and WP:CWW concerning emphasis being placed on copying outside of Wikipedia on the one hand, and on the other hand copying within Wikipedia. My examination of the various Noticeboards was that many editors and administrators were using the term "copyvio" interchangably to apply to both. I read the following text in WP:Copyvio: Some cases will be false alarms. For example, text that can be found elsewhere on the Web that was in fact copied from Wikipedia in the first place is not a copyright violation – at least not on Wikipedia's part. In these cases, it is a good idea to make a note of the situation on the discussion page. This seems to suggest that there is an exclusion for re-using old Wikipedia material in new Wikipedia articles from the use of the "copyright" phrase at it is largely applied at Wikipedia. My question is, is "copyvio" being used as a term-of-art at Wikipiedia to describe the re-use or forking of old Wikipedia articles into new Wikipedia articles, or is this a misapplication of the legal code understanding of the phrase which recurs in the day-to-day usage of the term among many Wikipedia editors and administrators? (I am asking this about the Wikipedia side of things and not the legal code side of this question.) Cheers. MusicAngels (talk) 20:37, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks MusicAngels, but I've been busy off-wiki. I don't think that re-using parts of old articles into new ones is at all a copyvio. However, it's good practice to use the edit summary to say what one is doing. For example, write "copying some text from Leprosy to Leviticus". Bearian (talk) 01:08, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the comment Bearian. A number of administrators at Wikipedia have been taking exception, however, and I thought I would at least bring you up to date. Even though WP:CWW is very clear that there is no copyvio here, and WP:CWW says nothing about G12 violations, it seems widespread among many administrators (though not all of them) that it is a G12 violation which they will action as such. My question is really a simple one: If there are administrators who believe that it is a G12 violation then should we not be updating the current WP:CWW article with a section= that at least mentions G12 warnings and violations as an issue. What's the responsible way to bridge this issue about administrators currently actioning G12 violations against what WP:CWW is telling editors to do, that is, WP:CWW agrees with you that re-use of old Wikipedia articles in new ones "ïs not a copyright violation." Cheers. MusicAngels (talk) 16:03, 29 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 02 September 2015

September 16: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

Wednesday September 16, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our evening "WikiWednesday" salon and knowledge-sharing workshop by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan.

This month, we will also host a Newcomer's Wiki Workshop for those getting started on the encyclopedia project!

We hope for the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects. We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming editathons, and other outreach activities.

After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles, 137 West 14th Street

Featuring a keynote talk this month to be determined! We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 15:11, 10 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Nine Degrees of Autism Developmental Model

Hello Bearian,

I work with an autism researcher named Philip Wylie. He would like me to create an article on a developmental model he has worked on, called the Nine Degrees of Autism. I am new to Wikipedia and have never posted an article before. Could you please advise me on how to craft an article that is approved? The previous draft I uploaded was deleted for plagiarism, although seeing as I was working with the express permission of the creator of the model I assumed it would not be a problem.

Thanks for your help!

N

Nmizrachi1990 (talk) 17:38, 10 September 2015 (UTC)Nmizrachi1990[reply]

Nmizrachi1990, if what you told me is true, I have bad news for you. You seem to have the the worse luck in the navy. Wikipedia just went through a scandal wherein we ended up blocking hundreds of paid editors and erased dozens of their articles, which had been used to blackmail businessmen. I'm not going to link them but you can use Google or Bing. Plagiarism is very bad and copyright violations are not just a crime, but also is against one of our most important policies. We also do not publish new research, period - please see WP:OR -- despite urban legends otherwise. I'm sorry, but I can't help you. Bearian (talk) 21:43, 11 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Moyers Corners Fire Department

I opened the above. Result was redirect to the community it serves. Just asking for an opinion here, do you think it would have been reasonable to bypass AfD and simply boldly redirect it to the community myself? John from Idegon (talk) 07:27, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

John from Idegon, let it run its course. Bearian (talk) 20:49, 29 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Saturday October 3: WikiArte Latin America Edit-a-thon @ MoMA

Saturday October 3: WikiArte Latin America Edit-a-thon @ MoMA

You are invited to join us for a full Saturday (drop-in any time!) of social Wikipedia editing at the Museum of Modern Art (MoMA) for our upcoming "WikiArte" Latin America Edit-a-thon, for Wiki Arte y Cultura Latinoamericana, a communal day of creating, updating, improving, and translating Wikipedia articles about Latin American art and culture.

11:00am - 5:00 pm (drop-in anytime!) at MoMA Cullman Education and Research Building, 4 West 54th Street

All are invited, with no specialized knowledge of the subject or Wikipedia editing experience required. We will provide training sessions and resources for beginner Wikipedians, WiFi, reference materials, and suggested topics, as well as childcare and refreshments.

Please bring your laptop, power cord, and ideas for articles that need to be updated, translated, or created. You are welcome to edit all day or drop by to show your support, and to follow #WikiArte on social media!

Trainings for new and less experienced Wikipedia editors will be offered (in English) at 11:30 a.m., 1:30 p.m., and 3:30 p.m. Tutorials and resources in Spanish will be available online, and participants are also encouraged to work on the Spanish and Portuguese language editions of Wikipedia.

We hope to see you there!--Pharos (talk) 10:33, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. Next event, October 15 - Women in Architecture editathon @ Guggenheim

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The Signpost: 30 September 2015

Thursday October 15: Women in Architecture Edit-a-thon @ Guggenheim (drop-in any time, noon-8pm!)

Thursday October 15: Women in Architecture Edit-a-thon @ Guggenheim

You are invited to join us for a full afternoon and evening of social Wikipedia editing at the Guggenheim (drop-in any time, noon-8pm!), during which we will create, update, and improve Wikipedia articles covering the lives and works of women in architecture.

noon - 8pm (drop-in anytime!) at Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum, Garrett Lobby @ 1071 5th Ave by E 88 St

In conjunction with Archtober and New York Archives Week, the Guggenheim will host its third Wikipedia edit-a-thon—or, #guggathon— to enhance articles related to women in architecture on Wikipedia. The Guggenheim aims to further the goals of Ada Lovelace Day for STEM, and Art+Feminism for art, in a field that, by its nature combines both.

The Guggenheim will work alongside ArchiteXX, the founders of WikiD: Women Wikipedia Design #wikiD, the international education and advocacy program working to increase the number of Wikipedia articles on women in architecture and the built environment. New and experienced editors are welcome.

Can’t join us in New York? Visit our global partnerships page to discover an edit-a-thon in a city near you or simply join remotely.

We hope to see you there!--Pharos (talk) 19:34, 7 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Thursday October 15: Women in Architecture Edit-a-thon @ Guggenheim (drop-in any time, noon-8pm!)

Thursday October 15: Women in Architecture Edit-a-thon @ Guggenheim

You are invited to join us for a full day and evening of social Wikipedia editing at the Guggenheim (drop-in any time, noon-8pm!), during which we will create, update, and improve Wikipedia articles covering the lives and works of women in architecture.

noon - 8pm (drop-in anytime!) at Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum, Garrett Lobby @ 1071 5th Ave by E 88 St

In conjunction with Archtober and New York Archives Week, the Guggenheim will host its third Wikipedia edit-a-thon—or, #guggathon—to enhance articles related to women in architecture on Wikipedia. The Guggenheim aims to further the goals of Ada Lovelace Day for STEM, and Art+Feminism for art, in a field that, by its nature combines both.

The Guggenheim will work alongside ArchiteXX, the founders of WikiD: Women Wikipedia Design #wikiD, the international education and advocacy program working to increase the number of Wikipedia articles on women in architecture and the built environment. New and experienced editors are welcome.

Can’t join us in New York? Visit our global partnerships page to discover an edit-a-thon in a city near you or simply join remotely.

We hope to see you there!--Pharos (talk) 19:58, 7 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The Signpost: 07 October 2015

This Friday: Women in Architecture edit-a-thon @ Cambridge, MA

You are invited to join the Women in Architecture edit-a-thon @ Cambridge, MA on October 16! (drop-in any time, 6-9pm)--Pharos (talk) 18:27, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 14 October 2015

Australian education research project

Dear Bearian,

My name is Gjeta Gjyshinca and I am working on a research project based on Australian education. My initial research is based on compiling an up-to-date list of all Government and Non-Government schools in Australia, taking into account closures, name-changes, and amalgamations of schools. I got your details from Tedder's talk page (Tedder is a coordinator of the Schools WikiProject page here). I was unsure how to contact Tedder so I wonder whether you could provide me with information on how the information on this page and all sub-pages was collected and how recent it is? Is it possible to download these lists in spreadsheet format?

I hope you can help me with this research or direct me to someone who can!

Many Thanks, Gjeta — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.254.14.178 (talk) 10:40, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No. Did not you read the top of my page? I am on a "Wikibreak". Bearian (talk) 11:12, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, and that notice says you will be back soon. When you are, maybe you can respond to my request. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.254.14.178 (talk) 09:47, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tedder, can you please help this person? {{help}} needed! Bearian (talk) 21:48, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker) Hello Gjeta, since Wikipedia does not have a central editorial staff, the information on that pages was collected by many independent editors, each improving the lists and adding information independently. You can check the page histories to see when what kind of information was added (or removed, or changed). Thus unfortunately it's very difficult to tell how recent the information is - different parts of those lists were added at different times. To my knowledge Wikipedia tables unfortunately cannot be downloaded as spreadsheets. However, you apparently can copy-paste the content into Excel or the like; I tried using LibreOffice, and it not only recognizes the tables but even recognizes and reproduces the links. Huon (talk) 22:08, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oh huh- interesting use case. You can contact me by hitting "email this user" or by leaving a message on my talk page. But what really needs to be done is some minor scripting to download and normalize them. If it was all on one page I'd offer to cook something up but it's a few extra hours of work beyond that. tedder (talk) 22:28, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A cup of tea for you!

With this ever dramatic world including WikiDrama, here's a cup of tea to alleviate your day! This e-tea's remains have been e-composted SwisterTwister talk 07:03, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oct 28: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

Wednesday October 28, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our evening "WikiWednesday" salon and knowledge-sharing workshop by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan.

This month, we will also host a Newcomer's Wiki Workshop for those getting started on the encyclopedia project!

We will also include a look at our annual plan and budget ideas, to see if the chapter is able to fiscally sponsor more ongoing projects tied to our core mission of expanding and diversifying free knowledge.

We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects. We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming editathons, and other outreach activities.

After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles, 137 West 14th Street

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 17:44, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Bonus events, RSVP now for our latest upcoming editathons:

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The Signpost: 21 October 2015

FYI

A page whose deletion discussion you participated in was re-added and nominated for deletion again. See: WP:Articles_for_deletion/Karen_Franklin_(2nd_nomination) Barcaboy2 (talk) 16:46, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

MfD nomination of User:Ieraj007

User:Ieraj007, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Ieraj007 and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:Ieraj007 during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Stefan2 (talk) 11:49, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Halloween cheer!

Happy Halloween!

Hello Bearian:
Thanks for all of your contributions to improve Wikipedia, and have a happy and enjoyable Halloween!
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The Signpost: 28 October 2015

5 Million: We celebrate your contribution

We couldn't have done it without you
Well, maybe. Eventually. But the encyclopedia would not be as good.

Celebrate 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:41, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 04 November 2015

Deletion review for Folklore Museum of Velventos

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Folklore Museum of Velventos. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. -PanchoS (talk) 02:37, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 11 November 2015

Request for advice

Hi Bearian,

I've been involved in a long-running dispute (or more accurately, WP:BATTLEGROUND situation) for a while now surrounding longevity-related articles, where some users are actively trying, as they put it, to "prune" the project and delete content which they believe to be "trivial" or "fanfluff", but the general opinions of these users are not always consistent with the rest of the community's. There's been an enormous number of AfD's and RfC discussions which are pretty pointless because there's rarely enough input from uninvolved editors. Do you have any advice for how best to resolve the situation and get more outside input?

Thanks! -- Ollie231213 (talk) 21:21, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

One place to go Ollie231213 is the WP:AN/I admin board for input. Bearian (talk) 16:49, 17 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sunday Nov 22: Soviet Jewry Edit-a-thon & Women In Science Edit-a-thon

Two options for this Sunday: Soviet Jewry Edit-a-thon & Women In Science Edit-a-thon

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for one of two edit-a-thons this Sunday, just bring your laptop and an interest in participating!

No special knowledge of the subject or Wikipedia knowledge is required, and there will be Wikipedia training workshops for new folks.

Soviet Jewry Edit-a-thon @ Center for Jewish History

  • 15 West 16th Street, New York, NY
  • 11:00 am - 4:00 pm, Sun Nov 22

Join at the Center for Jewish History (drop-in any time!), during which we will create, update, and improve Wikipedia articles pertaining to the American Soviet Jewry movement.

Women In Science Edit-a-thon @ NY Academy of Sciences

  • 7 World Trade Center - 40th Floor
  • 1:00 pm - 5:00 pm, Sun Nov 22

Join at the NY Academy of Sciences, during which we will create, update, and improve Wikipedia articles pertaining to the lives and works of women scientists. Note that seating is limited for the Women in Science event, as well as signing up on-wiki, please RSVP by email.

Bonus event:

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The Signpost: 18 November 2015

ArbCom elections are now open!

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The Signpost: 25 November 2015

Dec 9: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC; Dec 12: Art & Law editathon + Dec 13: Black Film editathon

Wednesday December 9, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our evening "WikiWednesday" salon and knowledge-sharing workshop by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan.

This month, we will also host a Newcomer's Wiki Workshop for those getting started on the encyclopedia project!

We will also include a look at our annual plan and budget ideas, and welcome input from community members on the sorts of projects the chapter should support through both volunteer and budgetary efforts.

We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects. We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming editathons, and other outreach activities.

After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles gallery, 137 West 14th Street

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! (One talk this month will be on use of Wikipedia press passes for photographers.) Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 13:38, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Season's Greetings

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To You and Yours! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 04:10, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 16 December 2015

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Season's Greetings!

Hello Bearian: Enjoy the holiday season and upcoming winter solstice, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, North America1000 18:54, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Saturday January 16: Wikipedia Day NYC Celebration and Mini-Conference

Saturday January 16: Wikipedia Day NYC 2016

You are invited to join us at New York University for Wikipedia Day NYC 2016, a Wikipedia celebration and mini-conference as part of Wikipedia 15, the project's global 15th birthday festivities. In addition to the party, the event will be a participatory unconference, with plenary panels, lightning talks, and of course open space sessions.

We also hope for the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

10:00am - 7:00 pm at NYU ITP Tisch School of the Arts, 721 Broadway (between Waverly and Washington Place)

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 17:56, 23 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 30 December 2015

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