User talk:Bearian/ArchivesJulyAug2012

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Lil eazy-e

Hey, I ended up, after much waffling, declining the PROD on Lil eazy-e, trying to improve the stub, am now suggesting a merge. Not much difference, and it may be that your first impulse was right, my apologies for any confusion caused. Free to pursue AfD, or the merger, or whatever else you think best, with my complements. Cheers, --j⚛e deckertalk 00:03, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

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RE Block of 117.212.16.249

Hi Bearian. Recently you blocked an IP editor 117.212.16.249 for vandalism for 1 month based on (as far as I can see) 1 edit (vandalism admittedly) shortly after I gave a level 1 warning. Am I missing something here? Jschnur (talk) 07:15, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I thought it was a repeat offender. I will unblock. Bearian (talk) 17:18, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the barnstar and you are welcome to borrow my "userboxen". I may yet borrow from some of your prodigious collection. Jschnur (talk) 23:41, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

RE Josephus Daniels

Hi Bearian. You recently made a change to the article on Josephus Daniels. It used to say he was the American ambassador to Mexico. I'm confused because the change still says he was the ambassador to Mexico, but the link says he was ambassador to Argentina. It seems to me there is a disconnect there. Was he the ambassador to Mexico or Argentina? Cheers. Ramon4 (talk) 20:47, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

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Talkback

Hello, Bearian. You have new messages at Callanecc's talk page.
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Callanecc (talk • contribs) talkback (etc) template appreciated. 06:13, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

WP:SNOW

Old news, I suppose, but I have to strenuously disagree with your citation to WP:SNOW at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/William Hope (actor). I certainly agree with the keep closure, but that was nowhere near a snowball. I've seen XfDs with dozens more !votes on one side flip over to the other after further discussion. WP:SNOW is for when it's just un-f'ing-believably obvious, beyond any shadow of doubt in the mind of anyone faintly sane, what the outcome would be, no matter how long the debate continued. Cite WP:SNOW when something looks like:

  • Delete [as nominator who doesn't understand policy]
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Just my dos centavos of course. But I seriously feel that WP:SNOW is strong medicine, not to be taken lightly. It's an exceedingly dismissive "STFU" gesture to throw at nominators who probably feel they are doing the right thing, but are just not sufficiently clued yet. As such, incautious use of WP:SNOW is a WP:BITE problem pretty often. — SMcCandlish   Talk⇒ ɖ∘¿¤þ   Contrib. 06:11, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

I can not recall what you are talking about. Well, thanks for making me LOL anyway. Bearian (talk) 17:23, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
Oh, now I remember ... that was four months ago. I was just mopping up. Bearian (talk) 17:25, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

missed discussion

Oddly, you commented at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Lame Duck Congress but not at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Let Bartlet Be Bartlet. You are the only person to do so.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:50, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

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Politics of Prince Edward Island

Three sources is not "well sourced". Me-123567-Me (talk) 21:26, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

You are trolling or nitpicking. Please read WP:BEFORE. With a few clicks, I was about to locate many more sources, and added half a dozen. Bearian (talk) 22:48, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
I disagree. The way I saw it at the time, it wasn't well sourced as you claimed. I can't read your mind. Me-123567-Me (talk) 02:42, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
How many sources are needed depends:

The number and nature of reliable sources needed varies depending on the depth of coverage and quality of the sources. Multiple sources are generally expected.

— WP:GNG
Three is a multiple. Bearian (talk) 19:19, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

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Comment on my talk Page

Sup, bro. I was wondering what was that comment you left on my talk page about, I don't know what edits you might be referring to. That's all, thanks for your attention.189.215.1.7 (talk) 23:25, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Placosternus Difficilis

Hi Bearian, I see the message that you moved my article submission but were unable to review it. I've done a couple edits over the years but this is the first new article I've ever submitted and I'm finding it a bit confusing. Is it that you can't review it because of access or you can't see it or did you mean you just don't have a chance right now and you or someone else will review once time allows? Please let me know if there's something else I need to do.

Thanks, ABombD (talk) 20:38, 30 July 2012 (UTC) Adam DelVecchio

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Your submission at Articles for creation

Placosternus difficilis, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.
The article has been assessed as Stub-Class, which is recorded on the article's talk page. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

You are more than welcome to continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia. Note that because you are a logged-in user, you can create articles yourself, and don't have to post a request. However, you are more than welcome to continue submitting work to Articles for Creation.

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-- Eclipsed (talk) (COI Declaration) 14:38, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Editing List of haplogroups of historical and famous figures (section)

Your ignorance has nothing to do with who is famous, and references and links were provided which obviously you did not click. Put the article back on. Word by word. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hayanisel (talk • contribs) 00:27, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Bearian. You have new messages at Koavf's talk page.
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—Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:57, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

George Skakel

Fair point, thanks for letting me know - AfD is here. Regards, GiantSnowman 17:52, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

John Bull info at Buff (color)

With regard to this edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Buff_(colour)&diff=next&oldid=459752488, do you still have the brochure? Did you attend the exhibition? I ask because someone has added a bit of confusing stuff at the end and we don't know if it's citable to this brochure anymore. Chrisrus (talk) 01:39, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, it is in my basement somewhere. It was one of the MMA's best-attended exhibits in the past 30 years, which the MMA library has, see [1], and [2]; other libraries or art designers should also have the book. I will try to 'unbury' it next week and get back to you. Bearian (talk) 15:49, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
Thank you. Please compare your edit (above) with the present version. There's a bit at the end that doesn't seem to have been a part of the edit written by you, and actually, if you agree, doesn't make much sense. If the bit at the end was written by you, if you would, please clarify what you meant. If you didn't add that part but can understand what the bit at the end was trying to say and agree that it jives with the citation, then, if you would, please clarify it. If looking at it makes you want to delete that part and put it back the way you had it, please do. I am trying to get the article up to a WP:GOOD level and the bit at the end is confusing and unclear. Thanks! Chrisrus (talk) 16:21, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
I just removed the last sentence; it's not in the source, as I recall. Bearian (talk) 17:09, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
Thanks! Perhaps we'll meet at the next Albany/Troy meetup! Chrisrus (talk) 18:25, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Oh, one more thing. Can we use this to cite that John Bull's buff clothing was typical 17th Centruy Englishman of a certain class? Chrisrus (talk) 23:09, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I am sure that is true, but does the brochure or book state so? Bearian (talk) 23:44, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
That's what I'm been asking you; scroll up. This is what it says now: Buff_(color)#John_Bull.27s_clothing. As you may know, the portions of the book available on line don't say anything about it. I was hoping we could use the brochure to cite that buff clothing was typical of a certain class of Englishman at the time. You have the brochure and attended the exhibition. Did you learn from the brochure or exhibition that buff clothing was typical of a certain class of Englishman at the time? And furthermore, that's the reason John Bull wore different articles of buff clothing? Is this safe to say? Chrisrus (talk) 23:13, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation

Thank you for your recent submission to Articles for Creation. Your article submission has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. Please view your submission to see the comments left by the reviewer. You are welcome to edit the submission to address the issues raised, and resubmit once you feel they have been resolved.
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Comment

Would you like to take a look at this and provide clarification of what you find as WP:SOAP or WP:FORK. Note that I am linking to my subpage because the mainspace article had substantial content deleted due to user sensitivities. Perhaps if you go through the original version, you might be able to give your perspective clearer. Mar4d (talk) 01:23, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

No, my perspective is that the concept is entirely not suitable for an encyclopedia. I am not interested; sorry. I am busy grading final exams for the summer term. The concept is inflamatory. Try some editor who may care. Bearian (talk) 21:45, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

User:Vipmission

Hello, the article Techno Christ was deleted in February 2009. It is not true that this "self-promoter" used his user page as an article. In the German wikipedia, he has tried such tricks, everything has been deleted. (excuse my english) best regards.--Dr.heintz (talk) 07:22, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for that information. Bearian (talk) 23:21, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

would like your help

Hi User:Bbb23 said you might be able to help me. I would like help to set my talk page to archive automatically with a search option if possible. If you could help me I would greatly appreciate it. TucsonDavidU.S.A. 19:27, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

I can't even do that for my own talk page! Sorry, I don't know the script. Bearian (talk) 19:48, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
See User:MiszaBot III. Bearian (talk) 19:51, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 Done Added the search box. cheers--DBigXray 14:31, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

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AfDs

There is an ongoing discussion on Guantanamo AfDs [3], thought of informing you as you are an admin and an experienced user who had participated in these AfDs,--DBigXray 20:11, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

As a form of appreciation for the Barnstar which you have presented to me, I hereby present to you this cookie. May you enjoy it and may it strengthen you in your future edits.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 07:46, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

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your assistance please

Thanks for your fair minded comments about my contributions at WP:ANI

I said, several times, that I redirected about 300 articles that I did not think measured up to the wikipedia's current, more stringent standards.

I said I hoped to look at those individuals, look for high quality references about them, that either weren't included in the articles, or had been excised for a bad reason. I said that if I thought a version could be prepared that would measure up to the wikipedia's current standards I would work on it, off-wiki, and call upon some trusted senior contributors for their opinions, prior to restoring the redirect to a full article.

I left a request at User talk:Fetchcomms#your assistance please to fill this review role. Would you consider agreeing to review these articles?

I wrote there that I didn't think I would call for more than two reviews per week.

Thanks! Geo Swan (talk) 16:40, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I was injured in an accident. Can I do that in 2 weeks, or is that too late? Bearian (talk) 18:34, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
  • I am sorry to hear about your accident. Yipes! I hope you have a full recovery. I'd be grateful for help any time that is convenient to you. Geo Swan (talk) 14:07, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

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