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Dude, relax. This isn't an edit war, it's maintaining the status quo while an ongoing discussion takes place: which is very normal. Adding the comment about the officer's death initially is fine: I'm willing to believe you didn't see the talk page. But then you added it again after I directed you to the talk page, and you even called the whole debate "ridiculous". It's not ridiculous at all, which is why we're having a discussion. I would have thought an editor who has been around as long as you should know how this works: given how controversial this is, we need to achieve a consensus. Especially on an article as volatile as the Capitol storming. Please just relax yourself and wait for consensus to be achieved: the article will be fine in the meantime. — Czello 21:49, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Czello: Honestly, I don't think it should be this controversial... The line I added proceeds one that says The department responded to "a couple of incidents" where officers threatened to harm themselves; one officer turned in her weapon because she feared what she would do with it. Do you consider that controversial too? I'm not saying we should articulate in Wikipedia's voice that the officer's suicide is a direct result of the riots. I'm only saying we should do what the sources do and just mention it within the context of the riots, in the appropriate section, with no added embellishment. Why is that controversial? AlexEng(TALK) 21:54, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It's controversial because it's been removed several times in the past (and I wasn't the first) which is why we're having the talk page debate in the first place. All I'm asking for is calm while we wait for a consensus to emerge; that's all. If consensus decides in favour of including it, then I'm happy for it to be included. Let's not jump the gun while the debate is still ongoing. — Czello 22:04, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That would be fine, but it's a moving target. The people who !voted in the first day or two were making their decisions based on the fact that it was only supported by tabloids like the NYPost. At that time, we weren't even sure it was a suicide. Now, it's pretty widely reported in reliable sources. Anyway, I didn't draw any conclusions regarding the officer's motivation for killing himself. Was the previously removed text the same as what I added? AlexEng(TALK) 22:22, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The solution to that isn't to ignore the discussion and shoe-horn your own preferred version into the article; it's to raise this in the discussion itself and maybe ping the relevant parties. You could have even raised an RfC to draw attention to the fact that the sources have changed. — Czello 22:25, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, AlexEng,

I was wondering if you were going to be working on this sandbox article. A Wikipedia bot has to keep removing images from the page as they get deleted and I'm not sure whether you were keeping this page around for your personal use or you were actively editing it. Liz Read! Talk! 03:21, 1 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Liz: thank you for notifying me. I am editing wikipedia only very rarely these days, so I doubt that I'll get around to fixing the issue that I had with that page. It can be deleted as needed. Thanks again! AlexEng(TALK) 16:06, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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About a question you tagged me on the ANI drama about GSoW

Hi Alex. You tagged me, but by the time I saw it, the discussion had already been closed. I was thinking of messaging you to respond, but only remembered to do it now.

I did revert an edit because another GSoW editor posted on FB about the SPA vandalizing that page. They didn't ask for anyone else to get involved, they just said "An SPA attempted to rewrite this…". I checked to see what had been done and the SPA had made changes again, so I just undid them. The thing is: it was completely uncontroversial.

If anyone says I shouldn't have done that because I learned about the SPA trying to EW from a post on Facebook, I'll have to ask "why?" It's not like there was a discussion and one of ours was "losing it" or something. It's not like there was the slightest chance in hell that the user I reverted would be not be considered "NOT HERE to build an encyclopedia". It can't be "abuse" if it didn't change the outcome of things. I just call the WP:SNOWBALL clause.

So, that's what happened, I hope you understand my position on this matter. If you think there is a problem with what I did, I'll read it and consider it, but I think I already explained myself enough. Please tag me if you respond, I'm not watching this page. Cheers! VdSV9 20:23, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@VdSV9: that might be interpreted as an action which is against the letter, if not the spirit, of WP:CANVASSING. However, since that was an uncontroversial edit, I think it's clearly a scenario where WP:IAR applies. Canvassing editors to establish a false appearance of consensus through reverts is an actual thing which is against policy, but I don't think that was the case here. There are probably a lot of eyes on GSoW now since the ANI drama. I hope you and the others make efforts to keep your edits above reproach, as even the appearance of impropriety would probably result in more annoying drama to contend with. Best wishes! AlexEng(TALK) 21:22, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Howdy. Had the options been made available at the List of presidents of the United States RFC? I would've supported removing the vice presidents from the article & likewise, remove the presidents from the List of vice presidents of the United States article. GoodDay (talk) 06:47, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, GoodDay. You can always suggest another option. RfCs are not intended to present a false dichotomy (trichotomy?). I always invite participants to add their own proposals to my own RfCs, as this user chose to do. At this stage in the discussion, it may make sense to ping all of the participants in the relevant section to reassess their responses. AlexEng(TALK) 07:11, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I believe I'll bring up the idea at the RFC. GoodDay (talk) 07:13, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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I thought your AE report was good and sufficient, even if people were slow to comment on it. You might actually get better traction in ANI, but it's a crap shoot. Anyway, I don't think you're barking up the wrong tree.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  09:07, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@SMcCandlish: Thank you. I appreciate the sentiment. In any case, it seems like the user is no longer being disruptive, so the necessity for administrative action seems to be stale. If it happens again, then I'm sure it'll get a faster response at ANI when it's filed. AlexEng(TALK) 09:12, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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A possible return?

It feels like we've come to a logical conclusion on this, so I'd prefer to collapse it. Thanks, everyone, for your time and respectful conversation. Please feel welcome to come back any time. AlexEng(TALK) 21:32, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

(Moved here from my talk page to avoid Even More Drama. --Guy)

Hi, Guy. I saw that you posted a request to have your voluntary I-Ban removed at WP:AN. I know that you didn't commit to returning, but I am hopeful that you do come back to editing regularly. The project has lost a lot of good editors, and you were one of the best. It's not the same without you, and I hope to see you come back someday. Best wishes, AlexEng(TALK) 10:38, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That would be entirely up to Floquenbeam. My only condition for returning is that he simply agree to step aside and let other administrators deal with any misbehavior on my part. To make it easy for him to make that decision,
  • I am not asking Floquenbeam to in any way admit to any fault or say that he was wrong.
  • I am not asking Floquenbeam to apologize for calling me a liar, calling me a troll, ect. he can simply agree without comment, or with some sort of comment such as "for the good of the project" or "to avoid more drama" or even "in an effort to get Guy to stop his constant lying and trolling"
  • I would be fine with Floquenbeam reporting me to ANI if they think I misbehaved.
  • I would be fine if any other administrator said that they will be monitoring my behavior and will deal harshly with any "intentional mocking of someone's gender" on my part.
I can no longer contribute my edits to Wikipedia (other than maintaining some essays) because trust was broken.
I trusted Wikipedia's administrators to warn me if I do something wrong.
I expected them to trust me to do as I have always done; stop the behavior when warned whether I agreed or with the warning or not.
I trusted that blocks are preventative, not punitive, and that, as my user page and talk page clearly specified, you don't have to block me to prevent any behavior. Just ask.
If there is an actual policy or guideline that says that purposely avoiding all personal pronouns is a no-warning blockable offense I would very much like to see it.
All of this could have easily been resolved by treating me as a human being and simply talking to me instead of instantly reaching for the block button on an editor with 15 years and 60,000 edits with no blocks.
I am convinced that Floquenbeam has a personal animosity against me, is monitoring everything I do, and may, at any time, once again invent a new rule not found in any policy or guideline and block me without warning for violating it.
I am convinced that however hard I try and no matter what I say, I am doomed. I did my best to follow every policy and guideline to the letter, and I did my best to do exactly what Floquenbeam ordered me to do. Clearly my best isn't good enough.
I don't anticipate Floquenbeam ever agreeing to walk away from this, so I don't anticipate ever editing articles again unless Floquenbeam retires or is desysopped. --Guy Macon Alternate Account (talk) 11:54, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Guy Macon Alternate Account: I believe that I fully understand your perspective, having spent several hours reading the entire context of the situation after I returned from a semi-wikibreak and learned that you had retired. I agree that you should have been warned, particularly given your history of taking great pains to abide by sanctions and administrator requests when they are put plainly and are specific. I won't comment negatively on Floquenbeam's actions. It pains me a little that you and I both supported his bid for reclaiming sysop after the Framgate situation, and that the relationship between the two of you was able to deteriorate to the point that such a miscommunication was possible. RfA review is always a long and involved process for me, and I typically spend hours looking through a candidate's contributions and history before responding. I still respect Floquenbeam's contributions with the tools, though I like to think that this situation could have been handled in a way that would have led to better outcomes for everyone involved. I do take you at your word when you explain your thought process or when you promise that you'll do something based on your understanding of what is expected.
@Floquenbeam: maybe this is a long shot, and maybe you don't have a good reason to do so, but I'd like to ask you to consider what Guy Macon wrote above. Will you please consider agreeing to merely recuse yourself personally from administrative decisions related to Guy? Guy has been a prolific and valued contributor on the articles I have seen him work on, and I would be really happy to see him return to the project. I just ask that you please not use my talk page to rehash the initial disagreements that led to Guy's block and retirement. Please. If you don't feel that you can respond without that, I will happily accept silence. Otherwise, please feel free to say whatever you like. Thank you both. AlexEng(TALK) 12:18, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
No. That demand is made in bad faith. Guy is welcome to return at any time; it’s his decision, not mine. At your request I won’t go into more detail here, but I’m of course willing to do so if you have questions. —Floquenbeam (talk) 12:32, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Please explain your refusal. If AlexEng doesn't want it here, do so on my talk page. It really sounds like you don't trust the other admins to deal with my behavior. Again, you don't have to admit you were wrong.
I am pondering whether to escalate this issue. To save a possibly wasted effort, if I bring this up at AN and it is the consensus of the community that you step aside and leave me to the other admins, would you comply? If not, then I won't waste everybody's time at AN and will have to decide between doing nothing and seeking your desysopping.
AlexEng, are you OK with this discussion here, or should I move it back to my talk page? I would kind of like you to be involved; I trust your judgement and If Floquenbeam can convince you that I am acting in bad faith then I would seriously reconsider my position. --Guy Macon Alternate Account (talk) 15:44, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I am convinced that Floquenbeam has a personal animosity against me, is monitoring everything I do, and may, at any time, once again invent a new rule not found in any policy or guideline and block me without warning for violating it. This is the crucial point. Guy cannot return with the Sword of Damocles called Floquenbeam hanging over his head, and the claim Guy is welcome to return at any time is made in bad faith - one can almost see the malicious smile behind it. If it were otherwise, if this were about an objective problem with Guy instead of just bullying of a user by an admin, F. would trust other admins to "do the right thing", and accepting the proposal of letting other admins handle him would be no biggie. --Hob Gadling (talk) 17:09, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I won't be participating in this discussion anymore. --Floquenbeam (talk) 17:18, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Guy Macon Alternate Account, Floquenbeam, and Hob Gadling: thank you all for respecting my request not to continue the discussion on my talk page. I'd urge you to try and come to a mutual understanding on a different page.

  • Hob Gadling, I'm largely against removing other peoples' comments myself, but I would strike what you said about malice and bullying. Even if you don't consider it a personal attack, it's not particularly civil. I don't ascribe any malice to Floquenbeam. My point of view is that this is a solvable misunderstanding based on two users' differing interpretations of each others' motives.
  • Floquenbeam, I don't think Guy is issuing demands in bad faith; I think he was hurt by what he sees as a misinterpretation of his actions and intents. Instead of demanding an apology or a dramaboard case or any other form of self-serving vindication, I believe he just wants to be sure that he won't need to have anxiety about being blocked by you specifically.
  • Guy, I don't think Floquenbeam is exhibiting a lack of trust in other admins here. I think he sees the condition you stated for your return as a point of vanity or pride rather than a principled response from an aggrieved party. My interpretation is that he thinks if you actually wanted to come back, then you wouldn't see that as a barrier.
  • By no means am I a mind reader, so please excuse me if I have misrepresented any of your opinions. It would be a mistake, but in good faith. So as to not silence any of you, I invite you to please feel free to ping me at your respective talk pages if you'd like to discuss anything one-on-one; you are also welcome to email me for private messages, but if a response is required, I will respond on wiki as is my personal policy, and I'll be as ambiguous or brief as possible to prevent breaches of confidence. Thanks, everyone. Best wishes. AlexEng(TALK) 00:17, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    It's your home. Sorry for causing a mess here. I still think that when an admin consistently violates - or maybe completely ignores - the WP:AGF guideline, that guideline stops applying to him, but I struck the part going beyond that, as you wanted. It's probably just a Manichean worldview, with Guy on the side of the villains because he was not 110% obedient. I would have deleted my whole contribution, but there were already responses to it. --Hob Gadling (talk) 10:59, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Does anyone object to me moving this back to to my talk page? No need. Question answered. Unwatching this page now. --Guy Macon Alternate Account (talk) 17:25, 7 January 2022 (UTC)I am still hoping for an answer to my question:[reply]

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"I am pondering whether to escalate this issue. To save a possibly wasted effort, if I bring this up at AN and it is the consensus of the community that you step aside and leave me to the other admins, would you comply? If not, then I won't waste everybody's time at AN and will have to decide between doing nothing and seeking your desysopping."

--Guy Macon Alternate Account (talk) 16:00, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am not going to discuss this on your talk page, where Hob Gadling et al. can say truly rotten things like I'm somehow glad you're not editing and enjoying seeing you suffer, and you'll do nothing about it and I'll be expected to just sit there and take it. So at the risk of annoying AlexEng, I'll say this here, now, and will not reply further:
If there is a consensus at AN/ANI that there is a policy-based reason for me to no longer act in an administrative role regarding you, of course I'll abide by it, even if I disagree. If there is a consensus at AN/ANI that it would just be easier if I did you the non-policy-based favor of no longer acting in an administrative capacity regarding you, I'll respectfully decline to just make it easier. Partially because I cannot bring myself to do favors for people who are actively lying about me, but mostly because it is not in WP's interest to allow people to pick and choose which admins can take administrative actions against them. I have taken a grand total of two administrative actions against you in the 12 years that I have been an admin (counting the clear warning to you in my closure of the 2019 ANI thread as an administrative action), and the second of those actions - the 2 day block - was directly related to enforcing the first warning, after being requested to look into it by another editor. Both of those admin actions were upheld by the community.
I exchanged a pleasant email with you a few months before the block. When asked if I'd accept replacing the block with an iban, I agreed. When you started violating the iban, I warned you via email, rather than blocking you. When you were found using an undisclosed sock to edit articles, I said nothing. When asked if I'd object to rescinding the iban earlier this week, I agreed. None of which are what you would expect from someone who has it out for you. There is zero evidence the admin actions were made in bad faith or as part of some vendetta, and lots of evidence they weren't; your repeatedly claiming this does not make it true. You've made up the idea that I am out to get you out of whole cloth. It is rude. It is unfair. It is not true.
It's been a long-held principle that taking administrative action does not make one WP:INVOLVED with an editor. It would not be good to waive that principle because you are refusing to edit WP articles with your main account while I'm still around. If you want to edit articles, you should edit articles. If you feel you've backed yourself into a corner and need me to say something so you can save face, then you can now use an undisclosed alternate account to edit articles instead. If you think that saying untrue things about me often enough will make me involved, that shouldn't be rewarded, or everyone will start doing it. --Floquenbeam (talk) 16:29, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding a disagreement with your recent closure of a COIN thread. The thread is Closure of COIN thread by involved editor. Thank you.Santacruz Please ping me! 11:03, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for getting the ball rolling, A. C. Santacruz. No ill will here, and I'm happy to apologize and self-revert if there is consensus that I was wrong. AlexEng(TALK) 11:20, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
If consensus is you were wrong, it won't be wrong by much. I do think your closure is constructive in a way. It serves to remind editors that the thread is meant to end at some point, and that we should try to reach a constructive conclusion before then. I hope it will thus keep editors more focused on the main issues of the thread and wait for other venues to discuss minor details or user conduct. Santacruz Please ping me! 11:26, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Race-revese casting

I liked your comments on this discussion. To me there are just too many like but not quite the same things going on here, to easily justify more than one article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:28, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Johnpacklambert. I tried to articulate the reasons that we don't need a separate article for this topic, but it seems that not many people agree with me. This "photo negative" technique is very niche. It was only used in Patrick Stewart's novel production of Othello, and I haven't been able to find any other examples of it. The article cites an essay about a particular production of Antony and Cleopatra, but I read the essay, and all they're talking about is the fact that Cleopatra was played by a white actor, while one servant in particular was played by a black actor. That doesn't seem like photo negative casting to me, and the source only tangentially notes this in a broader discussion of the relationship between race and gender in casting. Again, though, it doesn't seem like anyone is going to change their minds. Maybe someday. AlexEng(TALK) 22:06, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • To me possibly the next closest example is the pairing of Guess Who's Coming to Dinner and the I think 2003 film Guess Who, where you go from a black man about to marry a white woman to a white man about to marry a black woman. However they are not by any stretch of the imagination the same plot, or the same work with a slight casting change. They are both set at the time they were made, they have totally different feels, and other than what I said above the rest of the plot is pretty much different.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:07, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yaniv

Would you mind saying which discussion you were asked to participate in? No worries if not, not trying to pry further than I should, but it would be useful to notify any potential closer of the attempt. And a very sincere thank you for reporting it. nableezy - 04:30, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Nableezy: Yeah, it's the Counterpunch RfC over at WP:RSN, much to nobody's surprise. This is the third email I have gotten from this user's socks. I have no desire to participate, but I did plaster the canvassing banner template on the discussion the first time I got an email. Also, to clarify, I'm totally fine discussing the content of these particular emails, since there is no confidential information or reasonable expectation of privacy. My only concern is about the metadata of the email, because my email address can be tied very easily and obviously to my real life identity. AlexEng(TALK) 06:01, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Well thats disappointing, but again thank you so much for reporting it. I dont think you should feel as though you should not participate due to the canvassing, as you clearly have Wikipedia's best interest at heart, Do you mind if I reference this on the RFC to inform people of the stealth canvassing? nableezy - 13:02, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Also, a quick suggestion, make an email with something anodyne like AlexEng_wiki@gmail or something and set up 2FA for it, and use it only for Wikipedia. You get a notification when somebody emails you anyway so dont even need to set up forwarding to your usual email, just check when notified. But I would strongly advise anybody not wanting to have their identity outed to do that, there been a number of hacking incidents here over the years. nableezy - 14:39, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Nableezy: thank you for the advice. I do appreciate it. I'd like to keep the email I have now, but I have added further restrictions through preferences. I'm not particularly concerned about an account breach, given the high security standards that I maintain. AlexEng(TALK) 19:30, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@AlexEng - You were selected because you participated in this discussion giving statements against their foes [1]. Now that you demonstrated integrity by refusing to cooperate they might choose you as prey to punish you. I strongly recommend you follow Nableezy's advice. - GizzyCatBella🍁 15:54, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@GizzyCatBella: thank you. I don't think I fit neatly into any particular ideological position, so it was strange for them to consider me as an ally. I suspect you are right, though. As for the prospect of punishment, I think it would be amusing to watch the attempt. I hide my real life identity out of personal preference, but I am not concerned about any particular consequences if it were to be revealed. It would just be annoying. Thanks again! AlexEng(TALK) 19:30, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Alex, I raised this at AN, sorry you are involved in something youd rather not be. nableezy - 16:39, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No problem! You can quote me wherever you like. AlexEng(TALK) 19:30, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Just FYI, I'm more than happy to work with you on adjustments in wording once it's established (if it is) that the sentence can be added. Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:32, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Beyond My Ken: thank you. I appreciate that. I just wanted to be clear in this case that I'm not married to any particular phrasing, but that I agree with the substance of what you wrote. If the consensus view moves in a similar direction, then I think it's fine to iterate on it to get to the best version. AlexEng(TALK) 03:48, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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@Geysirhead: thanks for the message. Are you suggesting that I am the editor in your statement above? Please be direct in the future. In response to your statement: I know what I said, and it was not written in error. You replied to somebody's contention about source material by saying: WP:CIR for such statements. You insulted Unbh by insinuating that they are incompetent for making the argument that they made. Then, after I politely asked you to comment on content not contributors, you apparently doubled down by calling me incompetent as well: WP:CIR to find (Ossewaarde,2017) and other peer-reviewed papers. Now you're on my talk page, having created a heading called "Competence in English", compounding your repeated insinuations about other editors' competence on an AfD page. Have you read WP:CIR yourself? At the very top of the essay, there is a very noticeable banner reading: Be cautious when referencing this page, particularly when involved in a dispute with another editor, as it could be considered a personal attack. Further down on the page, there is further admonishment: It does not mean we should label people as incompetent. Calling someone incompetent is a personal attack and is not helpful. Always refer to the contributions and not the contributor, and find ways to phrase things that do not put people on the defensive or attack their character or person. To assume good faith after one personal attack is advisable. To assume that after two is generous. To continue to assume good faith after three personal attacks, identical in substance, is just foolish. I am now asking you to strike or delete your repeated attacks on editors' competence. Thanks again for your message. AlexEng(TALK) 04:17, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You insulted Unbh by insinuating that they are incompetent Please, read in your mother tongue Для доказательства некоторых утверждений необходим уровень редкой компетентности. Человек, делающий заявление, должен подкрепить его, чтобы его воспринимали всерьез. and WP:Listen--Geysirhead (talk) 13:39, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Even if somebody is directly called incompetent, competence can be only acquired, when incompetence is acknowledged. insulted sound like a legal threat to me WP:NLT.--Geysirhead (talk) 14:09, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Regarding the undid revision for Saudi Arabian article. How is it exactly not an accurate summary of the human rights section? Updates regarding improvements of the country's human rights situation should be mentioned along with the human rights abuses. The current paragraph is misleading as it shows the country is not willing to improve its human rights image and denies all the reforms made in the last couple of years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajwadsabano (talkcontribs) 11:18, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) I have blocked this user. Bishonen | tålk 11:46, 16 February 2022 (UTC).[reply]
Thank you, Bishonen. For posterity, the user had on several occasions modified the lead of Saudi Arabia to present a more favorable picture of civil rights in the country. This caused the relevant article section, "Human Rights", to not be accurately reflected in the modified lead. AlexEng(TALK) 20:30, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Alex. I do believe the Saudi regime is "willing to improve its human rights image", perhaps even to the point of employing SPAs to whitewash their record on Wikipedia. Bishonen | tålk 22:56, 18 February 2022 (UTC).[reply]

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In what world is this of no significant interest? You re why Wikipedia isn't a reliable source of information. 47.226.75.115 (talk) 13:25, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@47.226.75.115: I take it as a compliment to not be associated with whatever warped version of "reliable" information you're talking about. Thanks for the feedback! AlexEng(TALK) 23:56, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, it's crazy how you proudly flaunt your political bias. Facts surrounding the corruption of Hunter Biden harm your political narrative, so you baselessly denounce factual information as "conspiracy theories" and lobby to get articles removed that you don't like. If you had a conscience you would delete your account, but because you don't, Wikipedia remains a source of politically charged misinformation. There really needs to be some policy in place to prevent misinformation spreading activists like you to spread their propaganda on this platform and pass it off as fact. 31.21.14.187 (talk) 19:55, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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  • An arbitration case named Industrial agriculture has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case close 8 November.

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Administrators' newsletter – February 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2024).

CheckUser changes

removed Wugapodes

Interface administrator changes

removed

Guideline and policy news

  • An RfC about increasing the inactivity requirement for Interface administrators is open for feedback.

Technical news

  • Pages that use the JSON contentmodel will now use tabs instead of spaces for auto-indentation. This will significantly reduce the page size. (T326065)

Arbitration

  • Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee adopted a new enforcement restriction on January 4, 2024, wherein the Committee may apply the 'Reliable source consensus-required restriction' to specified topic areas.
  • Community feedback is requested for a draft to replace the "Information for administrators processing requests" section at WP:AE.

Miscellaneous


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Administrators' newsletter – March 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2024).

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • The mobile site history pages now use the same HTML as the desktop history pages. (T353388)

Miscellaneous


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Administrators' newsletter – April 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2024).

Administrator changes

removed

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • The Toolforge Grid Engine services have been shut down after the final migration process from Grid Engine to Kubernetes. (T313405)

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

  • Editors are invited to sign up for The Core Contest, an initiative running from April 15 to May 31, which aims to improve vital and other core articles on Wikipedia.

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