Template:Did you know nominations/Bret Price

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Narutolovehinata5 (talk) 11:42, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Bret Price

Created by Sdkb (talk). Self-nominated at 07:51, 16 April 2022 (UTC).

  • Starting this review. Ktin (talk) 20:05, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article meets eligibility criteria - newness and length. Article is a tad on the shorter front, but, at 1700 characters meets DYK minimum of 1500 characters. That said, I would strongly urge the nominator to consider expanding the article before it makes it to the homepage. Do not see any major issues on tone. Earwig's copyvio tool does not show any major issues. Higher number is due to hits with names of museums and other proper nouns. Have a relatively minor, but, an issue nevertheless with the hook's source. The hook is sourced to an LA Times article from 1986, which confirms that in 1986 the zipper installation existed in his backyard. It has been 36 years now. The hook says "has a zipper" -- do we know that? Additional source(s) might be required. QPQ is pending. Handing back to nominator. Ktin (talk) 20:13, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the review, Ktin. QPQ now done and added above. On the length optional suggestion, I added all the significant information I could find, but if you'd like more info in any particular area, I can search further. On the date issue, yeah, that gave me a bit of pause, too. The L.A. Times article identifies him living in Orange, California, at the time, and although I can find plenty of more recent references for him living in Orange, it's possible he moved houses or sold the sculpture or something. He has contact info on his website, so I could ask him to confirm whether it's still true, which technically would be OR but which IAR would make me comfortable including the info. Would that be okay? {{u|Sdkb}}talk 21:04, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
Thanks. A simple "had a zipper in his backyard in 1986" would solve the problem, wouldn't it? Ktin (talk) 21:13, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
Btw, while I have you, can you take a look at trimming the references for the very first sentence in the lede. 9 references for that statement is an overkill. Should be a simple trim. Ktin (talk) 21:20, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
Reduced the citations in the lead by moving them elsewhere where possible. And yeah, we could always stick on an as of 1986, but that'd read a little weirdly. I reached out through his website and I'll see if we get a response. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 21:42, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
I heard back from Price, and unfortunately the zipper is no longer in his backyard. How about we go with "built" in the past tense, i.e. ALT0a ... that Bret Price built a 1,500-pound (680 kg) zipper in his backyard? Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}}talk 18:43, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
@Sdkb: Wow, that was quick! This ALT looks good to me. Please add it to the above submission as ALT1 and I will mark it as approved. Also, if you have Mr. Price's attention, can you use this opportunity to ask them for a photograph? That will be a good addition to the article. Ktin (talk) 19:11, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
Approving ALT1. Ktin (talk) 15:53, 18 April 2022 (UTC)