Template:Did you know nominations/Chinese Cultural Center, Phoenix

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The result was: promoted by Kingsif (talk) 21:18, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Chinese Cultural Center, Phoenix

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Phoenix Chinese Cultural Center

• ... that despite the efforts of preservationists who protested for over a year, Phoenix's Chinese Cultural Center (pictured) was remodeled into mundane office building? Source: "Mann’s opposition group still shows up at city meetings to protest the current owner’s plan. And it’s had a small but visible presence on the site for more than a year." from [1].
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5x expanded by MB (talk). Self-nominated at 05:53, 16 April 2022 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: A sad story, and one I'm glad is now well-documented on Wikipedia through this article.

One unsourced sentence tagged, but on the whole, it's fine. Image is from new editor and lacks metadata but does not show up anywhere else in a reverse image search, so assuming good faith it's truly own work. No other issues with the checklist items (e.g. copyvio check returns only quotes).

As a slight neutrality issue with the hook, "mundane" to me indicates a value judgment, so I'd suggest changing to "generic", which is more just a description of the architectural style. If you have a strong preference for "mundane", I could be persuaded on that if it's used by reliable non-opinion sources in their own voice.

Phoenix Chinese Cultural Center before remodeling

I'd also suggest tweaking the wording slightly and making the image caption note that it's pre-transition, giving us ALT0a: ... that Phoenix's Chinese Cultural Center (pictured) was remodeled into a generic office building over the objections of preservationists and community groups? Let me know how that sounds, then happy for this to go forward. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 20:51, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

Sdkb, thanks for this review. Missing cite fixed, that was the same as the previous sentence. I don't care for "generic" that much, are you OK with "ordinary", I think it is synonymous but more fitting. On the image caption, I had considered a pre-transition note but decided that was superfluous. The image is the Chinese Cultural Center, something that no longer exists. The present structure has a different name and function and there is nothing Chinese about it. MB 23:16, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

"Ordinary" sounds fine to me. And yeah, but readers won't know that unless they've read the article, so I think it helps. So it seems we have for ALT0b: ... that Phoenix's Chinese Cultural Center (pictured) was remodeled into an ordinary office building over the objections of preservationists and community groups? {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 05:24, 17 April 2022 (UTC)