Talk:Thomas Matthew Crooks/Archive 1

Archive 1

Defensive party registration

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Pennsylvania is a closed primary state. So, sources are speculating that Crooks registered as a Republican so he could vote against Trump, and Trump-backed candidates, in Republican primary elections, and the failure to defeat Trump in that primary likely influenced his decision to try to assassinate him. Being a registered Republican would still allow him to vote for Democrats in the general elections. 152.130.15.110 (talk) 15:40, 14 July 2024 (UTC) he changed when he turned 18 in late 2021. if he registered as a Republican then i doubt that was his motive for 3 years later. probably some sort of radicalisation turned him and he never ended up changing his registration IEditPolitics (talk) 15:48, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

Redirect

Draft:Thomas Matthew Crooks Sttammany (talk) 17:20, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

You gotta be 35 to run for president

It stated that he tried to run for president but he’s under the age to do so… (I know not professional but just putting the obvious out. 2600:1016:B029:C3FE:5411:B265:A653:257F (talk) 17:26, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

Should be a redirect?

I think? Oeoi (talk) 05:47, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

Yes until there is good reasons to turn it into an article on its own. Bohbye (talk) 05:51, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

I'm in the same camp. We know very little about the shooter, and it would be better to cover the shooter as part of a larger page about the broader topic of the assassination attempt, with more context. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 06:51, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

Fully agree. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 11:48, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

would be assassins are generally are given their own page - this being the case with the Ford attempts. 70.169.187.178 (talk) 12:30, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

Entry has already survived AfD, so archiving this section. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:57, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

Fix Some Information and Grammar

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The amount of people he shot needs to be plural. And I believe he shot 4 people Including Trump, 2 Males and 1 Female leaving one of the males dead. Tdwizew (talk) 17:26, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

nvm about the plural part... Tdwizew (talk) 17:27, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

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Grammar

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Where it says “he donated $15” it should say “he had donated $15”, as the text has just said that afterwards he registered himself as a Republican. 86.31.178.164 (talk) 17:20, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

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"was allegedly purchased by his father[4] to fire eight rounds from a rooftop"

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Come on! What kind of misleading statement is that? Dad buying a gun for his son for this very specific purpose? Movies have blooper reels, I guess this one makes the en-WP reel. 2003:C6:3742:EEB8:8C09:30D:D977:8BC1 (talk) 18:01, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

Fixed EvergreenFir (talk) 18:11, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

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Blackrock

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Add that he was in an advertisement for Blackrock. https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/07/14/us/trump-rally-gunman-thomas-crooks-invs 207.96.32.81 (talk) 19:59, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

 Done. Thank you for pointing this out. C F A 💬 20:39, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 14 July 2024 (2)

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change July 14 to Jul 13, cause that's when it happened. 24.38.199.114 (talk) 20:13, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

It has been fixed. Thanks, David O. Johnson (talk) 20:19, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

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Mistake in the introduction

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At the end of the introduction, it says Crooks attempted to assassinate Trump on July 14, 2024, when the attempt actually took place on July 13, 2024. Can someone please fix this? JW2009 (talk) 20:29, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

 Already done: This has already been fixed. C F A 💬 20:41, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

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Why is it discussed for deletion?

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Many failed assassins have their own wiki page and info, like Reagan, Ford and even Andrew Jackson all have their failed assassins a wiki page of their own, I feel like it should be kept 2600:100C:B204:5D73:38E2:6BE9:5F0A:D7B8 (talk) 12:38, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

What about all these who dont have their own Wiki pages? Trade (talk) 12:45, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

Then express your concerns on the deletion page, not here. Sir MemeGod ._. (talk - contribs - created articles) 13:06, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

This page should not be deleted. BrendonJH (talk) 13:19, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

We also know a whole hell of a lot more about those other failed assassins. Seems irresponsible to repeat information circulating so early in the press; these kinds of stories tend to evolve very quickly and have a lot of incomplete, out of context info circulating. Just look at the comments on this tall page: what few bits of info that are "known" about this person's politics are being made suspect. I read that a reporter spoke to this person's father who implied that he hadn't even spoken to law enforcement yet and was trying to figure out what was going on himself. Seems prudent to show some humility and patience with this one. 2600:1700:8D70:1490:8DA9:3F2C:7129:547 (talk) 16:08, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

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Should not be deleted.

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This is a major political event that has been covered by the world over, from Malaysia, Australia, India, China, Russia, et-cetera. When compared to say, school shooting they get little coverage outside the US unless they are major. This assassin was only centimeters from killing one of the most controversial/polarizing figures in American history. If Manson has an article so should this guy. 68.189.2.14 (talk) 18:41, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

I also agree that this article should not be deleted (yet). People like to read about the profile of a shooter and it is important to have a reliable source. Wikipedia may be that reliable source if evil wikipedian does not erase that information, instead of validating and fixing issues. Martiniturbide (talk) 20:26, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

This should be obvious to anyone in touch with reality.

Modern Wikipedia is Reddit in everything but name. 85.135.216.213 (talk) 20:27, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

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Make Thomas Crooks redirect here?

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The football coach seems to be significantly less relevant than this guy, perhaps it should be Thomas Crooks (Football Coach) or at least make a disambiguation page KyleSirTalksAlot (talk) 16:08, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

Disgree- I think that the redirect links on either person’s Wikipedia page would be fine, maybe something like “Not to be confused with the American football coach: Thomas Crooks” A guy from murica97390 (talk) 16:45, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

Wait for now, but I imagine Thomas Matthew Crooks will end up being the primary topic for Thomas Crooks. C F A 💬 17:07, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

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Not notable

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Doesn't need to be here Gammawammallama (talk) 21:24, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

@Gammawammallama Based on the AfD discussions, the community has decided otherwise. —C.Fred (talk) 21:25, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

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This doesn't belong on Wikipedia.

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How the fuck did people !vote keep on two different AfDs. This is a useless content fork of the main article. LilianaUwU ^{(talk / contributions)} 21:20, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

The community evidently disagrees. GhostOfNoMeme 21:27, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

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