Talk:Surrogacy laws by country

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Ireland

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/mother-of-a-child-is-the-pregnant-woman-who-gives-birth-government-tells-high-court-3370536.html

There is a case going on in Ireland regarding surrogacy laws in the country. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.40.24.222 (talk) 05:15, February 1, 2013‎ (UTC)

Serbia

... Serbian Parliament will vote for this law in November 2015.

This needs updating. Dick Kimball (talk) 14:49, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Confusing map

Regarding File:Maternidad subrogada situación legal.PNG. What's the difference between " No legal regulation" and " Unregulated/uncertain situation"? They seem like synonymous. Ping creator, User:Fobos92. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:43, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

User:Piotrus, Ok, I saw the map. There is actually a fail in the explanation table, but only in english, I dont know why. The light blue is refered to the countries where there is no legal recognition, but also not legal banning, but in there the subrogancy is been doing. I dont know if I mean.--Fobos92 (talk) 16:30, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

South Korea

Sources are confusing:

  • [1] (2018 news): "Childbirth through a surrogate is forbidden in South Korea."
  • [2] 2016 academic book: "gestational surrogacy is actively available in South Korea. However, with no legal. However, with no legal regulations or definitive medical guidelines for the procedure..."
  • 2015 academic book: "Commercial surrogacy is prohibited in China, Japan, and South Korea."
  • [3] 2012 academic article: "While Korea does not have any legal statement on surrogacy, treatments are carried out in practice."
  • [4]2010 academic article: "Korean Medical Association (KMA) announced the Ethical Guidelines for Clinical Practices in 2001, recommending doctors avoid involvement in commercial surrogacy."
  • [5] (no date): " Surrogacy is permitted altruistically as well as commercially. Laws on that matter are unregulated. However the Korean Medical association discourages the use of surrogacy for commercial reasons."

I couldn't find anything better or more official, but outside of the single news article (through recent), it seems most reliable sources suggest Korean doesn't regulate this issue. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:08, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal to keep just table and split off separate articles per country

I doubt many people are watchlisting this page, but I have an idea for refactoring it, and would welcome any feedback. My suggestion would be to keep only the table in this article. I would add a 'notes' column to the table (which could contain some of the information present parenthetically in other columns right now, like "except Quebec"). For the per-country subsections, I would do the following:

  • If the text just repeats information present in the table, delete it. Example
  • If the text is just one or two sentences, integrate it into the "Notes" column of the table. Example
  • Otherwise, split it off into a separate article. e.g. Surrogacy laws by country § AustraliaSurrogacy in Australia, and link to that article from the table (perhaps replacing the links in the 'Country' column, which currently just go to the article on the country itself)

There are currently two existing examples of surrogacy-in-country articles (that I could find): Surrogacy in India (previously called Commercial surrogacy in India), and Surrogacy in New Zealand.

Thoughts? Colin M (talk) 18:01, 21 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Colin M: I agree. The refactor makes sense. --MarioGom (talk) 20:32, 21 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Portugal

The surrogacy law was never applied in Portugal. It was passed three times. It was vetoed once by the President and then repealed twice by the Constitutional Court.[1] The table, map, and Portugal section needs an update. --MarioGom (talk) 20:36, 21 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Martín del Barrio, Javier (19 September 2019). "La ley portuguesa de vientres de alquiler, declarada inconstitucional por segunda vez". El País (in Spanish).

Removed inaccurate map

On the map some countries are listed as "No legal regulation" and others as "Unregulated/uncertain situation". But what's the difference between these two categories? No legal regulation=Unregulated. The map is unencyclopedic and it needs to go. Somebody else complained about this too, above. 2A02:2F01:51FF:FFFF:0:0:6465:5A4A (talk) 09:34, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Seems like changing label to this category as just "Uncertain situation" would solve the problem. If there's no objection I will bring back the map with changed label. Borysk5 (talk) 14:15, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Factual accuracy

The factual accuracy of this article is very questionable. Both the map and table are contradicted by this map (made by Euronews) [6]. 2A02:2F01:52FF:FFFF:0:0:6465:4263 (talk) 11:33, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the table. Much of it was also unsourced. There are many subsections for individual countries, so sourced material for countries should be added there.2A02:2F01:52FF:FFFF:0:0:6465:4263 (talk) 11:38, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dehumanising language

This article is written from the viewpoint that surrogacy is ethically neutral or good, and that calling a birth mother a 'gestator' isn't deeply offensive to most women. Many people see all forms of surrogacy as a form of human trafficking, as even in 'altruistic' cases a child is being intentionally created in order to give them as a 'gift' to a woman who is not the child's mother. Most jurisdictions worldwide acknowledge the definition of 'mother' to be the woman who gives birth to the child, regardless of egg donation - so a section on the pushback against this practice in general would be appropriate. 46.208.84.170 (talk) 02:11, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Persons who want the child should be called father and mother. Person who is doing child for giving to someone for helping or money , it is not good to call mother. GThis suggestion dehumanises the intending parents. This suggestion is incorrect Tries in interfere with basic reproductive choices of couples. 122.161.50.7 (talk) 12:42, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Canada

The map for Canada is no longer correct. Since the repeal of Article 541 of the Quebec Civil Code in June 2023, it is no longer entirely banned in that province. I do not know how to update the map, but all of Canada should now be one color. See Surrogacy in Canada#Quebec. Thanks! — SpikeToronto 06:48, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]