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Synonymous

Cervus n. dybowskii is synonymous with C. n. hortulorum (Whitehead, 1972). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.120.199.48 (talk • contribs) 02:53, 31 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lay-out

Could someone please better set this article out so that it is easier to read. TeePee-20.7 15:32, 13 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

We are currently working the organization of this article. It is a fairly well-known species and deserves a good article. -- XNemesis94 (talk) 19:01, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Axis Deer

why are there only pictures of Axis Deers -- Ae12079410 1:34 pm, 6 May 2007, Sunday (3 years, 2 months, 1 day ago) (UTC−6)

Actually, the pictures are sika deer, but mislabeled as Axis Deers. -- [[User:Dlc_73|Dlc_73}} 3:12 am, 19 November 2007, Monday (2 years, 7 months, 16 days ago) (UTC−7)

The pictures in this article are of AXIS deer, not Sika. Someone should change this. It's very misleading. Sika are Chocolate brown with a white tail (not spotted). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.68.119.81 (talk • contribs) 04:00, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, they are sometimes spotted, but those pictures are definitely axis deer not sika deer. I replaced the first picture with a picture of a (spotted) sika deer. -- DrHenley (talk) 18:30, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article

I grew up with Sika deer in Suffolk County, Long Island, NY. There is no NY population noted in the article. I heard mention once they were introduced as a project? There is much to support the fact that they are there but I could find nothing regarding HOW they got there.. yet. BigPaws12 (talk) 15:58, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Holy" in Nara

I was told that these deer were considered "holy" animals in Nara. This may be worth a mention here, see Nara, Nara#Deer in Nara. 195.177.83.222 (talk) 13:42, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Formosan Sika Deer" picture ???

The picture of the "Formosan Sika Deer" looks suspiciously like a Formosan Sambar. DrHenley (talk) 13:18, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sika on Long Island

Would someone better experienced than I be willing to edit this page to add the information regarding the imported Sika deer on Long Island, NY? I worked at Southaven Park in Yapank, Long Island, NY where there is a large and healthy Sika population that according to some sources were imported when the park was a gentleman's club. It is believable- there was also a small fishery there for trout fishing, and the park's superintendent's home was previously a large private estate. The Sika there are no longer hunted there to my knowledge, but I believe in the past they were for population control purposes. Oddly enough, I never noticed them as tick-ridden as the whitetails on the Island. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.171.123.145 (talk) 14:35, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Some historic information about the park can be found here: http://www.suffolkcountyny.gov/parks/southaven_county_park.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.171.123.145 (talk) 14:42, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Inclusion of the Sika deer on the [[[List of domesticated animals]]

It is in dispute weather this animal passes passes the "Wikipedia article clearly describes domesticated animal" criteria for inclusion on the List of domesticated animals.

The following passages are in question and must be meticulously cited or removed:

1. The second paragraph of Sika_deer#Population NO INLINE CITATION:

"The feral population is likely to be much higher than the wild though most of them are descended from domesticated sikas of mixed subspecies."

Also, please clarify the specific referent of the pronoun "them," above.

2. Sika_deer#Velvet_antler, NO INLINE CITATION:

"Sika in China were domesticated long ago for the antler trade, along with several other species."

These statements should either be cited or removed as the claims they make are in contradiction with the common accepted belief that:

"reindeer are the only domesticated deer"

found for example at

www.ultimateungulate.com

Proving this claim not unlikely to be challenged.

Thank you for your kind attention to this matter. Chrisrus (talk) 00:40, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Year round culling in British isles?

Has anyone a source demonstrating that it is in real practice typical to deliberately cull Sika deer year-round anywhere in the UK?

The source cited: https://www.nonnativespecies.org/assets/Uploads/ID_Cervus_nippon_Sika_Deer.pdf does not seem to mention year-round culling.

This source: https://www.thedeerinitiative.co.uk/uploads/guides/91.pdf specifies a closed season for Sika deer in England and Wales, though it also explains the reasons and conditions of shooting within the closed season, which are either no other way to protect crops etc, or under licence for preserving public health and safety or the natural heritage.

This source: https://www.deer-management.co.uk/deer-management-scotland/close-seasons-for-deer-in-scotland/ gives a slightly different closed season for Scotland (which would be expected).

This source https://forestryandland.gov.scot/what-we-do/who-we-are/corporate-information/deer-management-strategy/out-of-season-deer-control suggests that a certain amount of out of season culling actually has been given permission in Scotland, but hardly suggests "rigorous year around" culling of the Sika in particular. The details seem to suggest granting some licences to start culling around a month and a half before usual open season, with anything before that requiring specific permission and exceptional circumstances.

However, I have been unable to find details regarding the actual numbers of permissions granted (the links on the numbers of licences granted do not go to the information), or work out if the supposedly "exceptional circumstances" required for the most sensitive part of the closed season, are in actual fact comparatively common! As the statement in the article is correct if and only if shooting in practice routinely continues throughout the closed season, and is specifically targeted at the Sika as especially problematic (which I have not yet found implied anywhere), this lack of detail is rather annoying. Whether such control is normal UK wide would remain a question regardless, as these sources only relate to the Scottish management of deer.

As the main reason for the closed season for females of seasonally breeding deer species in the UK is a straightforward welfare concern (likelihood of dependent young dying of starvation), year-round culling of females at least is definitely not supposed to be the norm.FloweringOctopus (talk) 15:11, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]