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Ethnologue

The Ethnologue explains about Pashto in three parts but only one part is cited as a reference for entire speakers. The 3 parts are as follow:

PBT

Population 8,000,000 all Pashto in Afghanistan (1989), 35% to 50% of the population (1996). Population total all countries 9,204,000 or more. All Pashto in all countries: 19,000,000 (1999 WA).

Region: Kandahar area. Also spoken in Iran, Pakistan, Tajikistan, UAE, United Kingdom.

Dialects: SOUTHWESTERN PASHTO, KANDAHAR PASHTO, QANDAHAR PASHTO.

PBU

Population 9,585,000 in Pakistan or 8.47% of population, including Southern Pashto (1993 estimate). Population total all countries 9,685,000.

Region: Along Afghanistan border, most of NWFP, Yusufzai and Peshawar. Also spoken in Afghanistan, India, UAE, United Kingdom.

Alternate names: PAKHTO, PUSHTO Dialects NINGRAHARIAN PASHTO, NORTHEASTERN PASHTO.

PST

Population: No estimate available. Region: Wazirstan, Bannu, Karak, southern tribal territories and adjacent areas. Alternate names: MAHSUDI Dialects: WACIRI (WAZIRI), BANNUCHI (BANNOCHI, BANNU).

Tajik (talk · contribs) and Chartinael (talk · contribs) are changing 40 million to 20 million and attaching one of the above part to back up their POV. I think this is wrong because here the same ethnologue states "Population total all countries: 9,720,700. Ethnic population: 49,529,000 possibly total Pashto in all countries." Various other sources claim Pashto 40-60 million people world wide.[1] [2] [3] [4]--Lagoo sab (talk) 03:00, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Why are you doing this? I have pointed you to the present edition of the Ethnologue on Tajik's and my talk page last night, stating that your interpretation of the source from the 14th edition is incorrect. The numbers in the present edition of the ethnologue are:
and if you wish
Adding up to a total of 20 Million and a few hundred thousand speakers.
The Ethnologue explains:
Country speaker population: The first population figure given is the estimated number of first-language (L1) speakers in the country in focus. Where it is available we provide the source and date of the information in parentheses. Differences among sources and differences in dates when the estimates were made may cause the totals of the populations for all of the languages in any given country to differ from the total population of the country.
We do not extrapolate population estimates to bring them up-to-date, since populations do not increase at the same rate in all language groups within a country and since some starting estimates themselves turn out later to have been incorrect. However, some population data submitted to the Ethnologue may be the result of extrapolation.
The Ethnologue provides the number of first-language speakers wherever possible. It is often difficult to get an accurate figure for the speakers of a language. All figures are only estimates—even census figures. Some sources do not include all dialects in their figures or may count as a single language two languages identified separately in the ISO 639-3 inventory. Some sources count members of ethnic groups, who, in some cases, may not be speakers of the language. Some sources do not make clear whether they refer to the total number of speakers in all countries, or only to those in one of the countries. Some do not distinguish first-language (L1) speakers from second-language (L2) speakers.
Population in all countries: When a language has first-language speakers in more than one country, the entry for the primary country lists the total speaker population for all countries. Since information may come from multiple sources, the sum of the individual country populations may not equal the figure given for all countries. In some cases, the population of one or more countries may not be available.
Population remarks: Additional information concerning populations may include population breakdowns (by dialect, gender, ethnic groups, or specific villages or communities), the population of the deaf community, or other comments on demographics.
Ethnic population: Where it is known, the population of those who identify themselves as part of the ethnic group is given. A language with no first-language speakers will be reported as extinct when the ethnic population figure is zero, absent, or unknown. When the speaker population is zero but there is an ethnic population figure, the language will be reported as having “No known speakers”.
These remarks clearly show that your interpretation of the figures are 1) based on an old and outdated version of the ethnologue as it still lists the total speaker population as 19 Million where the current version list 20 Million and 2) you misinterpret the sources. All figures for Pashto branch (southern, northern, central respectively) give figure for main country followed by figure for all countries followed by figure for entire pashto (combined figures for all three) in all countries. Chartinael (talk) 08:25, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
*sigh* ... User:Lagoo sab is so extensively into source picking and WP:OR that it's almost impossible to explain to him easy facts ... Tajik (talk) 09:42, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
Chartinael, Sources should directly support the information as it is presented in an article, and should be appropriate to the claims made.... I believe that what you did here by cherry-picking some of Ethnologue's info and ignoring the rest is part of W:Original research. The 40-60 million total Pashto speakers is not limited to those who's first language is Pashto, it includes all who can speak Pashto.--Lagoo sab (talk) 18:53, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
Somebody should revert this change, because it is against the sources and it violates the current discussion. Tajik (talk) 18:40, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Pasto-Latin Transliteration

اآ ب پ ت ټ ث ج چ ځ څ ح خ د ډ ذ ر ړ ز ژ ږ س ش ښ ص ض ط ظ ع غ ف ق ک ګ ل م ن ڼ و ه ی ې ۍ ٸ

ıy e y h w n̥ n m l g k q f ğ { ŝ ş s j յ z r̥ r z d̥ d x h ĉ ȥ ç c s t̥ t p b ã a —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.220.33.64 (talk) 12:23, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Peace Process

--68.55.128.166 (talk) 14:36, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

pashto

i don't understand what you people say — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.207.221.30 (talk) 14:40, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Classification

Should be decided that pashtu is a West Semitic language, as the beginning states, or a Central Semitic as the infobox states. However Pashtu is not mentioned in neither of the two articles of West- and Central-Semitic languages. --Zimmy (talk) 08:24, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Pashtu is in no way related to the Semitic languages. It has borrowed words, the alphabet and other features de to language contact, primarily with Arabic. Pashtu is an Indo-European language, the Semitic languages are Afro-Asiatic. There is no proven relation between e two families. This article is unreliable as a source based on this incorrect information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.209.84.6 (talk) 20:52, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Quality of retroflex /r/

I found the following remarks interesting:

The retroflex lateral flap // (/ɺ̢/) is pronounced as retroflex approximant [ɻ] when final.

Is this documented somewhere in the literature? Taylor Roberts' page (http://www.yorku.ca/twainweb/troberts/pashto/sampler1.html) mentions "that rr in final position is more of an approximant (like English r)".

Corey Miller — Preceding unsigned comment added by Millercor (talk • contribs) 17:07, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

That's exactly what this means: the English /r/, more pedantically /ɹ/ outside of Scotland, spans a wide range and can go all the way to retroflex. David Marjanović (talk) 18:13, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

The Cyrillic is wrong

At least, it doesn't line up with the Latin. The Latin has Muslaman, while the Cyrillic has Muslulman – at least the first l (л) can't be right. Then it has an extra ым that doesn't correspond to anything in the Latin, and where the Latin has aw, the Cyrillic has ащ – the letter щ stands for [ɕ], [ɕtɕ] and [ʂt] in different languages, but never for anything remotely similar to [w], so I'd be very surprised if it had been used for /w/ in Pashto.

Of course I'd appreciate a source that shows Cyrillic was ever used to write Pashto in the first place.

David Marjanović (talk) 18:21, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

I think you are correct. I do not know why that section of examples is in there anyway. As far as cyrillic script to write Pashto see, for example:
  • Лебедев К. А., Калинина З. М., Яцевич Л. С. Учебник афганского языка (пушту). М., 1963.
  • Лебедев К. А. Граматика языка пушту. М., 1970.
  • Лебедев К. А., Яцевич Л. С., Калинина З. М. Русско-афганский словарь (пушту). М., 1973.
--Bejnar (talk) 20:29, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Pashto Wiktionary

To anyone who knows Pashto and would consider helping to improve the Pashto Wiktionary, please see my message at m:Talk:Small Wiki Monitoring Team#Pashto Wiktionary. Thanks. - dcljr (talk) 11:09, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

palatal/velar or velar/uvular

I've recently come across a couple references according to which the dorsal fricatives in Pashto dialects would be velar ~ uvular rather than palatal ~ velar. (E.g. Ĺubomír Novák (2013), Problems of Archaism an Innovation in the Eastern Iranian Languages.) Apparently a common habit in Iranology is to transcribe /x ɣ χ ʁ/ as ‹x̆ ɣ̆ x ɣ›? which may have been misleading here…

Does the current source we have cited offer any hard phonetic data or just a descriptive transcription? --Trɔpʏliʊm • blah 00:55, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Michael M. T. Henderson

Do we really need mentioning "Sample phonology I term paper. The phonology of Pashto" written by Michael M. T. Henderson? I have no doubt that Michael Henderson is a linguist, but the paper itself was clearly not peer-reviewed. Otherwise it would not contain such strange statements as, for example "The Pashto consonant system includes retroflex sounds, not found in any other Iranian language" That is incorrect, as Wakhi, Sanglechi-Ishkashimi, and Munji-Yidgha also have retroflex sounds. Well, everybody makes mistakes, but there is no real need to reference a "sample I term paper", it is not a scholarly article and is obviously misleading. Omnitempore (talk) 12:10, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

A Dictionary of the Puk̲k̲h̲to Or Puk̲s̲h̲to Language, in which the Words are Traced to Their Sources in the Indian and Persian Languages, Part 2

A Dictionary of the Puk̲k̲h̲to Or Puk̲s̲h̲to Language, in which the Words are Traced to Their Sources in the Indian and Persian Languages, Part 2 By Bellew H. C., Henry Walter Bellew

http://books.google.com/books?id=73JbPGDRh3cC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

Rajmaan (talk) 05:05, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

pashto

د ارزګان ولایت یو د هغه ولایتو نو څخه دی چه ډیر پخوانی تاریخ لری چه اکثر ځمکه غرونه دی — Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.213.200.122 (talk) 07:21, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: not moved due to lack of clear consensus. Ixfd64 (talk) 04:16, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Pashto language → Pashto – WP:NCLANG says "Foo language" is only necessary when "Foo" is ambiguous and doesn't have a WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. That doesn't seem to be the case here, or else the proposed title wouldn't already redirect here. The usual culprit is Foo people; Pashto people redirects to Pashtun people, which doesn't actually call the people Pashto, suggesting it's a less common variant. If we affirm the status quo, that the language is the primary topic for "Pashto," we should go ahead and move. Otherwise, Pashto (disambiguation) should probably move to the base title. Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 15:25, 4 June 2014 (UTC) BDD (talk) 21:29, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

  • Oppose: "Pashto" is not the name of the language, so it is ambiguous. — kwami (talk) 00:29, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
  • Oppose. it is not necessarily the primary topic, Pashtun and Pashto are interchanageable. Just as "Pashtun langage" is used for the language e.g. File:Pashtun Language Location Map.svg, so Pashto is used for the people. To not make the distinction between people and language is to do our readers a disservice. To lose the distinction for formalistic purposes would be mean spirited. --Bejnar (talk) 04:00, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
  • Support. If "Pashto" is not the name of the language, please update the lead paragraph of Pashto language and move it to the correct name. Being interchangeable with "Pashtun" does not affect whether it is primary for "Pashto" (e.g., "United States" and "U.S." are interchangeable, and it's still the primary topic). If the language isn't primary for "Pashto", please turn Pashto into a redirect to the correct primary topic, or into a disambiguation page. -- JHunterJ (talk) 01:23, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
  • Oppose: "Pashto" by itself is not exclusively used for the language only, but depending on context it can also be used for Pashtun people and for Pashtunwali for example. Therefore the word "language" is definitely required in the title for clarity. Khestwol (talk) 14:34, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
  • Support. This is the clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and indeed the only thing listed on Pashto (disambiguation) that even qualifies. It's pointless to redirect the more WP:CONCISE, natural title "Pashto" to the longer title "Pashto language", especially when there's nothing else that could conceivably called by that name.--Cúchullain t/c 20:56, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
    The disambiguation page was incomplete, I added more links to it now. Khestwol (talk) 07:56, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
    The entries on the dab page need to lead the reader to an article that covers a topic that the Wikipedia article says is known as "Pashto". The more links added did not. See MOS:DABMENTION. -- JHunterJ (talk) 10:52, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
Exactly - none of those additions would be called "Pashto", which is what concerns us here.--Cúchullain t/c 12:53, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
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Pashto speaking areas map incomplete!

The map showing the Pashto speaking areas is missing alot of areas on both sides of the Durand Line. One big example I can give is that of Karachi, which has a 6 million Pashto speaking population and is not at all covered in the map. There are many other areas too which are uncovered.

And the image in which the name of the language itself is written is in the wrong script. Pashto is written using the Naskh script while even the name of the language is written using Nastaliq which is funny and annoying too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.157.9.189 (talk) 10:04, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Please correct the number of speakers

"some 8,976,369 million people in Afghanistan, 29,342,892 million in Pakistan" as on 2014-08-03 at 19:15 UTC is clearly wrong.

Omitting "million" twice is more plausible, but then numbers given to the last single individual are not "some" and need to be qualified by referring to a census. "some 8 million people in Afghanistan, 29 million in Pakistan" would be acceptable if correct.

However, the Encycloaedia Iranica (note misspelling) cannot be quoted as source in that case, since it says "some eight million people in Afghanistan, six million in Pakistan"

Languages of Pakistan says 15% of the people in Pakistan speak Pashto, which is some 29 million.

All this confusion needs some research to clear up, which is outside my area of competence. 105.226.208.171 (talk) 19:24, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Number of Speakers in Afghanistan

Both here and on the main article on Afghanistan someone is exaggerating the number of Pashtuns. They've gone as far as post wrong numbers, then, posting a link that has the right numbers, blatantly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.191.134.208 (talk) 22:01, 13 September 2010 (UTC)


The current numbers are off by a factor of one million, at least. There are not "8,976,369 million people in Afghanistan," nor are there "29,342,892 million in Pakistan". 81.216.59.226 (talk) 07:07, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Census of Pakistan

As per national census Pashtun are 11.42% of Karachi population. Please see the Karachi article talk page for consensus for reverting pro nationalist newspaper mere arbitrary estimates of 25% or 70 Million Population in the city. Esatesa (talk) 15:38, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Requested move 17 June 2015

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The result of the move request was: moved. Jenks24 (talk) 14:41, 25 June 2015 (UTC)


Pashto language → Pashto – Clearly per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, the language is highly likely the topic sought when a reader searches for the term "Pashto". The other "Pashto" articles at Pashto (disambiguation) are about minor, unimportant villages and a town, and are not likely to be viewed frequently. In the last 90 days, "Pashto language" has been viewed 67,233 times, but "Pashto (Battagram)" has been viewed only 357 times, "Pashto, Battagram" has been viewed only 33 times, "Poshtu, Bushehr" has been viewed only 158 times, and "Poshtu, Hormozgan" has been viewed only 146 times. So Pashto language, which is about a major Indo-European language, qualifies easily as the PRIMARYTOPIC, and "Pashto" can be used as title for the article. And also per WP:NCLANG "Convention: Languages which share their names with some other thing should be suffixed with "language". If however the language is the primary topic for a title, there is no need for this. Examples are English language and Persian language, contrasted with Esperanto and Latin". Per the titles Esperanto and Latin. Also per WP:COMMONNAME as per Google Ngram, and per WP:CONCISE. Khestwol (talk) 08:23, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

  • Support per above. Khestwol (talk) 09:11, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Comment I do not think that the Ngrams here count for much especially when Ngrams such as for "English,English language" give similarly extreme results. Arguably WP:DISAMBIG applies: "Disambiguation may also be applied to a title that inherently lacks precision and would be likely to confuse readers if it is not clarified, even it does not presently result in a titling conflict between two or more articles." I do not think that Pashto has the same level of familiarity as Esperanto or Latin. GregKaye 09:19, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
Comment: However by comparison, English also refers to "an adjective referring to something of, from, or related to England", and to English people, so it is an ambiguous word. As for "Pashto", on the other hand, it is nearly exclusively used for the language. A person searching for "English" might likely be searching for the adjectival or the ethnonym, among other things. But a person searching for "Pashto" is highly likely searching for the topic. "Pashto language" could be used if "Pashto" by itself was ambiguous to provide a WP:NATURAL disambiguation, but in our case any disambiguation is unneeded so the concise term "Pashto" is more suitable. WP:PRIMARYTOPIC applies here. Khestwol (talk) 09:25, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
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Ahmad Shah Khan Crown Prince Of Afghanistan.

Hello Sir, Please Can You Edit Ahmad Shah Page And Also Mention His Address? — Preceding H.R.H Prince Muhammad Zahid Zadran 08:17, 15 January 2016 (UTC) comment added by M-Zahid-Zadran (talk • contribs) 08:11, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello

I would really like to learn Pashto but I could not find anyonw who talk thi language in the net. I live in Israel and there are no people here know this language. Can someone help me?

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.228.87.144 (talk • contribs) 23:50, 16 March 2007

Hi I can teach you pashto, but you got to figure out how is it possible, I am a Pashtoon from Afghanistan, contact me at pr — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tariq4s (talk • contribs) 16:08, 25 June 2007

I live in gujranwala pakistan where there are handful of pashto speaking people from the north west frontier pakistan as well as migrants from afghanistan. From my experience pasto will be a difficult language for you to learn on internet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.58.115.33 (talk • contribs) 10:42, 3 April 2007

What is the best of luck for tomorrow Mohmand igency (talk) 12:02, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Who raised the political level of Pashto

The article Dari language says:

Sher Ali Khan of the Barakzai dynasty (1826–1973) first introduced the Pashto language as an additional language of administration.

This article says:

King Amanullah Khan began promoting Pashto during his reign as a marker of ethnic identity and a symbol of "official nationalism".

I couldn't find anything about the Pashto language in the articles Sher Ali Khan and Amanullah Khan, although maybe I haven't read them well enough.

Which of these two statements is correct? If both are correct and both men played a part, then both should be mentioned here, with an explanation of their contribution to the history of Pashto, and it should also be mentioned in the articles about those two men. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 18:45, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

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Pashto as a descendant of Avestan

The article claims that Pashto is a descendant of Avestan. That, however, is not agreed upon in the linguistics world (at least not in the strong way it is presented here). Of the three sources the article mentions, one is a by a sample phonology term paper! (The phonology of Pashto by Henderson). The other is from an article by Henderson (four varieties...) which doesn't really state what the article attributes to it. It merely refers in passing to the Old Iranian ancestor of Pashto as "Avestan or a similar old Iranian langauge". The third source by Darmester (Chants Populaires Des Afghans) is from the 19th century and much of it (including the misnomer "zend" used for referring to Avestan) is outdated. But even that source states that deciding about the ancestor of Pashto is not easy. The title of the relevant section (p. LXII) is "L'Afghan dérive du Zend ou d'un dialecte très semblable au Zend" (i.e. "Pashto is derived from Avestan or a dialect very similar to Avestan"). A better and more up-to-date source on the subject would be the encyclopedia Iranica article on Pashto by Morgenstierne, which states that "it seems that the Old Iranic ancestor dialect of Paṣ̌tō must have been close to that of the Gathas". In light of these facts and what these resources say, I would like to replace the current sentence in the article on the origin of Pashto with this one: "A number of linguists have argued that the Old Iranian ancestor of Pashto is Avestan or a variety very similar to it."Mmahdavim (talk) 00:33, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

@Mmahdavim: Agree. The assumption of an Avestan origin for Pashto is a minority position, and rarely even mentioned in teriary sources about Pashto and the Iranian languages. A strong statement comes from Tucker who writes in the "Avestan" entry in the Concise Encyclopedia of Languages of the World (p.107): "No Iranian language known from later times can be identified as a direct descendant of Avestan."
What about the second sentence concerning the Rabatak inscription? "Words borrowed from Pashto" clearly is an anachronism. The only source is from Abdul Hai Habibi, which renders it even more dubios. I recommend to delete the second sentence completely, and replace it with a sentence which mentions the consensus position that Pasto emerged from Eastern Middle Iranian, since it shares phonological innovations with Khwarezmian, Sogdian and Bactrian (D.N. MacKenzie in Comrie's The World's Major Languages). –Austronesier (talk) 10:20, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
I totally agree. I'll make both changes if I don't see any objection in the near future. Mmahdavim (talk) 20:21, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

ړ

According to Josef Elfenbein [Phonologies of Asia and Africa, page 742] ړ is "[ɽ] voiced back-alveolar retroflex flap" so where have editors got the "[ɭ̆] Voiced retroflex lateral flap" or "retroflex approximant [ɻ]". And Tegey and Robison [A Reference Grammar of Pashto, 1997, page 15] transcribe it as "[ṛ] voiced retroflex flap". As a native speaker I find it identical ड़/ڑ. Can someone please point if this wrong? PashtoGrammar2 (talk) 08:23, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

@PashtoGrammar2: Then why dont you fix it and give the proof in the about the summary? remember to give the proof tho last time i fixed my nativlang's phonology and some american guy came and reverted it and i asked him why? then he asked for proof then when i gave him proof he didnt say anything 103.215.53.231 (talk) 20:39, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
@PashtoGrammar2: hmm it says that in the word سوړ‎ [soɻ] 'cold' it exists and in ړوند‎ [ɭ̆und] 'blind' so hmm? 103.215.53.231 (talk) 20:43, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Pashto as an official language of Pakistan?

Should Pakistan not be added to the list of countries where Pashto is officially spoken since it is an official provincial language? I understand it is not an “official” language of Pakistan but neither is Punjabi yet it stated to be an official language of Pakistan. Taimoorahmed11 (talk) 22:33, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

@Taimoorahmed11: So how did Urdu became the official lang when more than half of everyone in Punjabi and 25% are Sindhi? AleksiB 1945 (talk) 20:46, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Phonology table looks ugly

Can someone please fix the phonology table give the audio sample in another table and just the consonants in the phonology table please AleksiB 1945 (talk) 20:49, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Use of color

According to MOS:COLOR:

Ensure that color is not the only method used to communicate important information. Especially, do not use colored text or background unless its status is also indicated using another method, such as an accessible symbol matched to a legend, or footnote labels. Otherwise, blind users or readers accessing Wikipedia through a printout or device without a color screen will not receive that information.

Now background color is used to mark which phonemes are borrowed. Please use a non-color markup as well. --Error (talk) 19:01, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 January 2022

It says Pashto is Afghanistan and Pakistan language it’s false detailed. Pashto is not Pakistan language it only Speaks in Afghanistan. So can you please change this. And also before adding or editing something Please check if it’s Right or No. Thank You! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.67.33.75 (talk) 04:22, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

You mean that Pashto is not spoken in Pakistan? – Uanfala (talk) 13:10, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Found a Typo

The exact place of articulation of /ɲ, ʈ, ɖ/ is unclear.

/ɲ/ is Palatal Nasal.

Retroflex Nasal is /ɳ/.

Fix Version: The exact place of articulation of /ɳ, ʈ, ɖ/ is unclear.

119.207.115.159 (talk) 07:36, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Fixed now. Thanks for spotting it! – Uanfala (talk) 23:57, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 23 February 2022

Pajajaj (talk) 07:05, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

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 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 07:12, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you so much

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Pashto

In Afghanistan I think Pashto is spoken more then 30% come ON it should be 7o% or 65% or more or it should 75% of Afghans spek both languages . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Afghan pakhtoon (talk • contribs) 20:29, 24 March 2007

'''4:32 p.m eastern 14 March,2007''' — Preceding unsigned comment added by Afghan pakhtoon (talk • contribs) 20:33, 24 March 2007

The population of pashto speakers is between 60-70 million according to Wikipedia official language category. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Asia

The data of pashtuns population provided by Wikipedia is about 12 years old data which is submitted in 2010. Kindly update the pashto language speakers up to 60-70 millions world wide. Only a 60 millions pashtuns living in Pakistan and Afghanistan, except this 2 countries millions of pashtuns living in india, Kashmir, UAE, saudi arabia, UK and iran. So kindly work on them and update the page. Raeeskamal (talk) 07:16, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Raeeskamal - Wikipedia is not a reliable source - Arjayay (talk) 13:48, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

There are several schools and health clinics in the left valley of Kunar. And what are their names?

There are several schools and health clinics in the left valley of Kunar. And what are their names? 87.215.120.206 (talk) 11:06, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 2 June 2023

Pashto is also Native to India. Add India to native to. 2601:2C1:9000:24E0:F457:F5F0:B475:2748 (talk) 01:41, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Lightoil (talk) 02:18, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 6 July 2023

Hi, In "Color" section of this article some colors names are missing in Pashto. I wish to edit and add that. Ilyas Marwat (talk) 12:00, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone may add them for you. Lightoil (talk) 13:02, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 7 July 2023

Native speakers 85 million (2023) HRayz (talk) 11:47, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. 𝙳𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚖𝚁𝚒𝚖𝚖𝚎𝚛 𝚍𝚒𝚜𝚌𝚞𝚜𝚜 13:42, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 7 July 2023 (2)

Native speakers 87 million (2023) HRayz (talk) 11:53, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. 𝙳𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚖𝚁𝚒𝚖𝚖𝚎𝚛 𝚍𝚒𝚜𝚌𝚞𝚜𝚜 13:43, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 7 July 2023 (3)

Native speakers 87 million (2023) HRayz (talk) 14:21, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. M.Bitton (talk) 15:54, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

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translate to English 223.123.86.223 (talk) 02:02, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 November 2023 (2)

Please change Native speakers 54 million (2017–2021) to Native speakers 70 million (2017–2021) Rjay129856 (talk) 17:27, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. M.Bitton (talk) 17:45, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 November 2023

Native speakers 70 million (2017–2021) Rjay129856 (talk) 17:24, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 17:46, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

Pashto native language of 55-60% of Afghanistan ? How ?

Hmmmmm sounds more than an overestimation and let's not even talk about all the taboo on an Afghanistan official census that is non existent and does not want to be made weirdly.

Official estimates (estimates, not factual census) says Pashtuns make around 42% of Afghanistan, how can the language be the native tongue of 55% of Afghanistan let alone 60% ?

Specially when many Afghan Pashtuns are Persianized and can't speak Pashto or don't speak Pashto as a native language/first language. A great example of this particular case for Afghanistan is the singer Ahmad Zahir himself, despite his dad being from the Pashtun region of Laghman he spoke Dari/Afghan Persian as a first language. 2A02:8428:809E:6701:F0D7:5A73:115E:BA24 (talk) 14:59, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

edit request vocabulary section

In the vocab section there's a comparison between Pashto, Persian and Arab words. It lists the Persian word for about as باره but that means for, the correct word is درباره 2001:1C02:10F:6100:944A:59EA:8AF4:744B (talk) 19:22, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

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