Talk:Panic attack

Proposal to remove arbitrarily frightening lead image

The prominent position and shocking nature of the current lead image for this article will obviously frighten anyone on the verge of a panic attack looking for information. The image has no provenance, and arguably bear no intuitive resemblance to the experience of a panic attack, besides “being weird”. I’d like to propose it is removed from the article. Wormald (talk) 13:30, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

While technically WP:NOTCENSORED (which I encourage you to read), I certainly understand the desire to have a less potentially triggering lead image. We currently don't have a good replacement image to use (the previous one didn't work as a lead image for multiple reasons), but if you are aware of any high quality images we could replace it with, I'm sure we could work something out. As it happens the image is my own, and depicts my subjective experiences with panic and anxiety attacks—a discussion with friends of mine who experience panic attacks as well indicated that for them it was actually an immediately relatable or "intuitive" image, but, being a work of art, that is obviously a subjective judgement. For now I think it would be best to keep it per WP:NOTCENSORED, but if you have something better to replace it with, I'd absolutely be willing to put it as a replacement lead image (perhaps moving the current one further down in the article, where it won't immediately be seen by people looking up panic attacks, but can still be found). Cheers, Yitz (talk) 14:53, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

@Wormald and Yitzilitt: I think it would be better if the image was moved down to a different section, possible in or below the "Signs and symptoms" section. This removes the image from the lead and also prevents the image from being displayed on page previews, mobile search, and social media embeds, and still keeps this artistic depiction. I agree that Wikipedia is not censored, but the unsettling image is slightly undue given the article content, and isn't necessarily an accurate (nor objective) depiction of what a panic attack is actually like which would strongly warrant its space on the infobox. Sometimes we do have to make a few exceptions on how we layout articles for the benefit of readers. Chlod (say hi!) 15:32, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Sounds reasonable! If you wouldn't mind implementing that, I'd be appreciative :) Yitz (talk) 15:34, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

 Done with Special:Diff/1016691712. Chlod (say hi!) 15:37, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the speedy compromise and improving edit. I maintain the stance that the picture is irrelevant and inappropriate, and note that Yitzilitt says they “enjoy experimenting with strange and surreal aesthetics” on their profile - which is fine and dandy, but surely a wikipedia page on a serious condition is not an appropriate publishing platform for ones personal artistic experimentations?

Alternative image ideas - as the core component of a panic attack is the experience of fear, either a simple picture of a face experiencing fear (such as this one of dilated pupils with a negative valence), or a recognisable artistic work associated with fear (something like Edvard Munch’s “The Scream?”), (or both) could work? Wormald (talk) 12:26, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Future Tripping which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 17:35, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

expert assistance needed with Future Tripping

Future Tripping was recently created. There is a proposal to move it to anticipatory anxiety, which currently redirects to panic attack. Anticipatory anxiety appears to be a symptom of Panic disorder, but is not explicitly mentioned at that article. (will post in a few places) ^~Hydronium^~Hydroxide^~(Talk)~ 03:09, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

treatments

I think putting in a few options for what one can do while in the midst of having a panic attack to help cope would be a useful thing to put into the treatments section. It has one now, but a few options would be helpful to readers. Mic20020 (talk) 01:24, 23 January 2024 (UTC)