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Hungary: 35 thousand tonnes of diesel fuel / month (MOL - UkrTransNafta agreement) Sources: https://hungarytoday.hu/ukrainian-armor-moves-thanks-to-hungarian-fuel-exports/ https://www.szabadeuropa.hu/a/ukrajna-dizel-mol/32513591.html Gabor vasarus (talk) 09:21, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Get rid of the notes section since Kosovo has no relevance in this page. Filipisepic (talk) 22:03, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 26 May 2023

1. Under the Companies section:

SpaceX is listed as donating StarLinks, but according to https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/spacex-curbed-ukraines-use-starlink-internet-drones-company-president-2023-02-09/ these were not meant as military, but humanitarian, aid. SpaceX claims to have enforced their use to solely humanitarian.

Philip Morris is listed as having donated 500 000 cigarettes. Cigarettes are not military aid.

Amazon is listed as having "Pledged $10 million in aid; using its logistics capability for supplies and cybersecurity expertise.", which also is not military aid.

Please remove them from the list.

2. In the map, several islands that belong to countries that have given aid are grey. Among these, some have a sort of self-governance. A majority don't have military forces or equipment of their own though, and if they do they are part of their country's forces. Military issues are handled at a national level. They should be marked according to their donor countries' aid.

Some examples: The Faroe Islands (Denmark), The Falkland Islands (United Kingdom), New Caledonia (France), Puerto Rico (United States), British Virgin Islands (United Kingdom), Guadeloupe (France), Dutch Caribbean (The Netherlands), and Cayman Islands (United Kingdom).

/2023-05-26 94.255.240.124 (talk) 02:20, 26 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ad 1: While SpaceX limited their use ind drone's, troops stil use Starlink for communicating which article mentions. Borysk5 (talk) 07:07, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit extended-protected}} template. -Lemonaka 22:37, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Did you miss Amazon and Philip Morris?
SpaceX: It still is not military aid.
It seems likely those three companies are added to give them credit, not to list donors of _military_ aid.
I don't know how to arrange to reach a vote on Wikipedia, but that method seems good. 94.255.240.124 (talk) 07:00, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Using Starlink for troops to communicate is definietly a military aid, even if they don't want to call it that way. Borysk5 (talk) 13:16, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Article needs to be repaired

We need volunteers to repair the damage caused by Uwdwadafsainainawinfi after this editor's copyright violations and removing properly sourced contents. At the same time, we need to preserve new military aid announcements from the past few weeks. Anyone interested? OhanaUnitedTalk page 13:13, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Finished cleaning up Spain's copyright violation contents added by Uwdwadafsainainawinfi (who is now permanently blocked). I need assistance for other countries as Spain cleanup alone took me more than 30 mins (and Spain didn't donate a lot). If you cleaned up a country, please note it here to avoid duplication of effort. OhanaUnitedTalk page 03:46, 19 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Australia was cleaned up by Melbguy05. OhanaUnitedTalk page 04:05, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Country sections that need repair:

  • Australia
  • Canada
  • Denmark (partially repaired)
  • Finland
  • Germany
  • Italy
  • Japan
  • Lithuania
  • Luxembourg
  • Montenegro
  • Netherlands
  • Norway (partially repaired)
  • Poland (partially repaired)
  • Slovakia
  • Spain
  • Sweden

OhanaUnitedTalk page 00:42, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've updated list today based on repair status. OhanaUnitedTalk page 04:01, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Number of Krab SPGs in Ukraine

The number of the Krab SPGs donated by Poland to Ukraine is too low - it states only 1 battalion (18 vehicles), where we know from Oleksii Reznikov that at least 3 battalions (54 vehicles) were delivered. Here's the video from the conference in Rammstein where Reznikov says that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw2OnEkr_Do&t=550s. Olekz17 (talk) 20:37, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request

Replace the image at the top of the article with https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ukraine_Defense_Contact_Group.svg, an SVG file of the same information (it is named for the Ukraine Defense Contact Group, but also includes other countries independently offering Ukraine military aid).

Discombobulates (talk) 09:52, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Question: when did Tunisia and Liberia offer military aid to Ukraine? M.Bitton (talk) 12:13, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know. They're part of the group coordinating military aid. But I don't know if they have provided any or not. Discombobulates (talk) 14:37, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done: Merely shows countries that have attended UDCG, which coordinates donation of military aid. Does not show whether those countries have themselves donated aid. Ex. see countries from M.Bitton. ARandomName123 (talk) 18:49, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Updated aid from US

Number of Strykers, at least, up to 189 https://media.defense.gov/2023/Jul/25/2003267256/-1/-1/0/UKRAINE-FACT-SHEET.PDF Hewn Beam (talk) 16:15, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edited request

Replace the image at the top of the article with https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Delivering_military_aid_to_Ukraine_-_detailed.svg, an SVG file of the exact same information.

A legend is also required:

  Delivered heavy weapons to Ukraine
  Delivered light weapons or ammunition to Ukraine
  Delivered non-lethal material military aid to Ukraine
  Delivered non-material military aid to Ukraine
  Ukraine

Reasoning for this change: an SVG is much easier to update. It can be done by anyone. Additionally, it can manipulated or exported to any format and at any resolution.

Discombobulates (talk) 19:04, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done WelpThatWorked (talk) 20:58, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Request for addition to Iceland entry.

Iceland will donate a mobile field hospital capable of treating 100 wounded soldiers. Delivery is expected in late 2023 (they take ~ 6 months to build). Reference: https://www.icelandreview.com/news/iceland-donates-field-hospital-to-ukraine/ Björn Ragnar Björnsson (talk) 21:50, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Panzerpampfpony (talk) 02:31, 13 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Request for addition for Ireland

Sentence "30 Irish soldiers will participate in training of Ukrainian Armed Forces in demining and clearing ordnance [From May 2023 onwards]." should be updated to reflect that the training includes basic weapons training and leadership.

I suggest rewording as "30 Irish soldiers will participate in training of Ukrainian Armed Forces in basic military skills, leadership training, drill instructor training, combat medicine, demining and explosive disposal. [From Apr 2023 onwards]"

The training is from April and not May. In Apr, mine clearance training was provided in Cyprus. In Jun, combat medic training provided to 51 Ukrainian soldiers in Germany.

I attach the following articles https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3751236-ireland-to-provide-training-for-ukrainian-military.html https://www.rte.ie/news/2023/0820/1400682-neutrality/ https://www.thejournal.ie/ukraine-army-training-irish-defence-forces-neutrality-6146360-Aug2023/ https://www.thejournal.ie/irish-troops-eu-ukraine-eumam-6000801-Feb2023/ https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2023/08/18/irish-troops-to-provide-weapons-training-to-ukraine-despite-governments-non-lethal-assistance-pledge/ https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2023/07/11/irish-combat-medics-return-from-training-ukrainian-troops-in-germany/

The two Irish Times articles refer to mine clearance equipment. Ireland has two Aardvark mine clearance vehicles which it is considering sending. Perhaps add a "Engineering equipment" section to mention this. Finestat (talk) 18:23, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Finestat Done Panzerpampfpony (talk) 19:52, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Panzerpampfpony: The edit you did that in also contained broken <a> tags that tried to link to two people's "profiles" but ended up just breaking the whole citation. 2603:8001:4542:28FB:4C89:6F75:861F:2F97 (talk) 01:57, 23 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-protected edit request (August 23, 2023)


  • What I think should be changed (format using {{textdiff}}): Bulgaria's contribution to delivering arms to Ukraine
  • Why it should be changed: Provide more accurate information

Jet Aircraft 

14 Su-25s* [April 2022] (Purchased from Bulgaria by a NATO member state and delivered to Ukraine)

Tanks 

T-72M1s* [Before May 2022] (Purchased by Czechia from Bulgaria and delivered to Ukraine)

Multiple Rocket Launchers 

122mm BM-21 Grads* [May or June 2022] (Purchased by Czechia from Bulgaria and delivered to Ukraine)

Self-Propelled Artillery 

122mm 2S1 Gvozdikas* [2022] (Purchased by a NATO member state from Bulgaria and delivered to Ukraine)

Towed Artillery 

152mm D-20s* [April 2022] (Purchased by Czechia from Bulgaria and delivered to Ukraine)

Mortars 

60mm M60CMA Commando Mortars* [Before August 2022]

Armoured Personnel Carriers 

100 BTR-60PBs [To be delivered]

Anti-Tank Guided Missiles 

9M111MFB-1 Faktorias* [Before August 2022]

Portable Anti-Tank Weaponry 

DRTG-73 Rocket Propelled Grenade Launchers* [Before April 2022]
ATGL-L Rocket Propelled Grenade Launchers* [Before November 2022]
BULSPIKE-AT Rocket Propelled Grenade Launchers* [Summer 2022]
Warrior SPG-9 Recoilless Rifles* [Before June 2022]

Small Arms 

1460+ MG-1M General-Purpose Machine Guns (GPMGs)* [Before April 2022]

Ammunition 

7.62x54mmR Small Arms Rounds* [Before April 2023]
GHO-2 HE Hand Grenades* [Before February 2023]
OGi-7MA AP-FRAG Rocket Propelled Grenades* [Before August 2022]
PG-7VT Tandem Charge HEAT Rocket Propelled Grenades* [Before December 2022]
RTB-7MA Thermobaric Rocket Propelled Grenades* [Before February 2022]
OG-9M HE Fragmentation Recoilless Rifle Grenades* [Before May 2023]
30mm VOG-17M Grenades For Automatic Grenade Launchers* [Before June 2022]
60mm HE60 MA Mortar Rounds* [Before August 2022]
82mm HE82M Mortar Rounds* [Before February 2023]
80mm ARS-8KOM Unguided Rockets* [Before April 2023]
100mm 3UBK2 HEAT FRAG Anti-Tank Rounds* [Before July 2022]
120mm HE120M Mortar Rounds* [Before August 2022]
122mm Artillery Rounds* [Since July 2022]
152mm Artillery Rounds* [Since April 2022]
155mm Artillery Rounds* [Since March 2023]
122mm Rockets* [Since July 2022]

Military Gear 

2000 Helmets [2022]
2000 Bulletproof Vests [2022]
5000 Sets Of Winter Clothing [Late 2022]
5000 Pairs Of Winter Boots [Late 2022]
350 Medical Kits [Late 2022]

Miscellaneous Items 

Huge Quantities of Diesel* [Since April 2022]

Technical Support 

Repairing Ukrainian Armoured Vehicles And Equipment [Since May 2022]

Training 

The Deployment Of 50 Bulgarian Army Soldiers To Train Ukrainian Soldiers [2023]
The Training Of Of 60 Ukrainian Combat Medics Annually [Since 2023]

Swiftyhappy (talk) 08:01, 23 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Adding section header. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 05:08, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Deactivating edit request as it's been pending for more than a month and hence it's clear none of the people patrolling this queue are willing to implement it. If some talk pages watcher wants to do so, feel free. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:44, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 September 2023

Please add a running total to the dollar-amounts. That would make this article MUCH more useful. 199.101.177.19 (talk) 22:34, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 05:11, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested addition to Belgium

150 of the 240 Volvo Fassi N10 trucks have been delivered from Belgium. This article cites parliamentary documents saying that some of the 80 Iveco LMVs have also been delivered, but not all of them: https://www.forcesoperations.com/en-belgique-falcon-et-buffalo-succedent-aux-vehicules-donnes-a-lukraine/ 82.194.220.91 (talk) 16:34, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Mixing of sovereing and crowdfunded aid

I see that recently El Roih made a lot of changes to the article, some of which include mixing sovereign aid and crowdfunded aid.

Is mixing of sovereign aid and crowdfuded campaigns the new norm for the article? Cimmerian praetor (talk) 07:47, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 October 2023

To change the number of Leopard 2's sent to Ukraine as it is incorrect. Sgtnugg (talk) 17:12, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Change it to what? According to what source? * Pppery * it has begun... 21:44, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 8 October 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Close as no consensus. Discussion fizzled out. No additional participants in the conversation despite multiple relisting. OhanaUnitedTalk page 03:22, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

List of military aid to Ukraine during the Russo-Ukrainian War → Military aid to Ukraine during the Russo-Ukrainian War – The current list format is limiting. The article itself has to try working around it (see section "Military aid planning"). It would make much more sense to write a mostly prose article with lists added in as needed. HappyWith (talk) 19:53, 8 October 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Jenks24 (talk) 09:36, 25 October 2023 (UTC) — Relisting.  — Amakuru (talk) 17:12, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You would lose a vast majority of the information if you altered the formatting of the article so radically. Some of the national aid efforts is either to numerous or small for a non list summarisation to be viable or necessary, The US and Colombia as respective examples. I believe the change being proposed would be a massive misstep for the preservation of information. A separate article on the chronology of foreign aid being approved and the political situations which has allowed and constrained the donation of military aid makes more sense and wouldn't be at the expense of the information in the current article. Panzerpampfpony (talk) 03:24, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Then would a WP:SPLIT be better? HappyWith (talk) 18:34, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It would depend, I believe there should absolutely be an exhaustive list of every nation's military aid to Ukraine, having the US, German, Australian etc contributions be on different articles makes no sense. Panzerpampfpony (talk) 20:35, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Request for addition to Belgium

Belgium will donate an unknown number of f-16 to Ukraine with first deliveries starting around 2025. Sources:

Belgian source (in dutch):

Belgium also helps with training Ukrainian pilots and is in the fighter jet coalition. Waffely (talk) 08:50, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done @Waffely Panzerpampfpony (talk) 23:30, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Request to add Argentina

Argentina will donate two helicopters under the new administration of Javier Milei.

Source in Spanish: (here) 190.246.97.81 (talk) 12:11, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Argentina donated two helicopters Mi-171E helicopters to Ukraine

https://www.scramble.nl/military-news/argentina-donates-two-mi-171e-to-ukraine Wikipediow (talk) 12:37, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Added. Thanks. OhanaUnitedTalk page 19:14, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 28 January 2024

The companies section is a little misleading. First of all, Spacex did not support Ukraine out of goodwill, but received federal funds from the United States. Spacex under Elon Musk also sabotaged multiple Ukrainian missions, which also resulted in personnel loss. 103.210.202.135 (talk) 15:24, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 15:28, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

EU Aid Typo

Last line in EU Aid is suppoesed to read 225 million€ not 225€ ShotKotaner (talk) 18:16, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

done. Panzerpampfpony (talk) 01:23, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ecuador

Ecuador will donate 9K33 Osa.

Source in Spanish: (here) Artemis Dread (talk) 19:51, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Typo UK monetary aid

The figure provided for the amount of monetary aid donated by the UK is missing a qualifier (e.g. billion). Merxa (talk) 19:06, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Serhiy Prytula Charity Foundation

They did crowd funding in the UK to buy 101 tracked armored British vehicles, and I don't think I see it listed. It also doesn't list exactly how much of which, just that they're all from the CVR(T) family, and the total number. And the last update I can find says that 24 were delivered last year, but not anything more recent. Source. Harizotoh9 (talk) 21:25, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Demining Equipment from Ireland

Please add the following section to Ireland

Engineering vehicles

  • 2 DOK-ING MV-4 remote controlled mine clearance vehicles [February 2024].


See the following media articles for references

https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0226/1434407-taoiseach-paris/

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/irish-defence-forces-providing-vital-equipment-and-training-to-help-ukrainian-troops-clear-mines/a656377779.html Finestat (talk) 18:27, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done Panzerpampfpony (talk) 19:15, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 15 March 2024

The French ministry of the armed forces have published an official list (link to the list : https://www.defense.gouv.fr/en/news/french-military-equipment-delivered-ukraine ) of military equipment sent to Ukraine between the 24th February 2022 and the 31th December 2023 so we now have a better idea of the military equipment sent by France. I suggest a number of change to take into account these information.

Analamed (talk) 10:52, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest separating your suggestions by making each one on a different line or some format other than just a ton of suggestions in one giant paragraph. Shadow311 (talk) 13:53, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Partly done per inline comments. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:52, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 15 March 2024 - Belgium

The Belgian government has given the green light on Friday for 412 million euros in additional aid for Ukraine. This was announced by Minister of Defense Ludivine Dedonder:

  • Transfer of three minesweepers to Ukraine in collaboration with the Netherlands. Belgium to organize basic training for personnel. Netherlands to provide on-the-job training for crews .Maintenance of the ship Narcis before transfer to ensure seaworthiness and usability for training and operations (6 million euros from the Ukraine Fund)
  • Purchase of armored ambulances in Benelux cooperation, modernized and transferred to Ukraine
  • Joint purchase of reconnaissance drones
  • Contribution of 32.9 million euros from the Ukraine Fund
  • Delivery of nearly 300 Lynx vehicles Infantry mobility vehicles
  • Delivery of artillery ammunition: Partly from Defense stocks, Partly through an international group purchase from various companies
  • 373.1 million euros allocated from the Ukraine Fund


Link (Dutch):https://www.hln.be/buitenland/live-oekraine-16-doden-door-russische-raketaanval-op-odesa-extra-belgische-steun-voor-kiev-mijnenjager-gepantserde-ambulances-en-munitie~abf3138b/ Waffely (talk) 18:26, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 20 March 2024

Kosovo has approved to send a second military aid package to Ukraine consisting of mortar rounds. The first military aid package includes military trucks, and armored vehicles. Jimmybowles1 (talk) 12:51, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Source Twitter EjupMaqedonci Jimmybowles1 (talk) 12:52, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. M.Bitton (talk) 03:01, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

France: 78 Caesar Howitzers

France announced additional Caesar howitzers will be sent, but from the wording I'm not sure if it means an additional 78 + what has already been delivered, or if they aim for 78 total. APNews. Harizotoh9 (talk) 08:17, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aid provided

Under "aid provided" I see this: Philip Morris International; Donated 500,000 packs of cigarettes to the Ukrainian military; 1 March 2022

I mean, seriously, since when is this aid? I would rather call it an attempt, an abuse, to get more people hooked on their product!

Also it would be nice if we could see money-wise which part of all the "aid" was truly given, which part came through lend-lease, and which part also gave an economic impulse to the economy or business of the so-called "beneficiary".

77.60.121.89 (talk) 10:26, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 11 April 2024

Azerbaijan does not sends military aid to Ukraine - https://tass.com/world/1716465. It should be removed from the list of countries which send aid. 118.232.26.49 (talk) 13:19, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

TASS is not considered a reliable source per WP:RSP.
I was able to find an article by Trend News Agency parroting claims by Azerbaijan's Media Development Agency, but I'm unsure if a single article by a pro-government source overrides the five relatively independent ones currently used, one of which provides (supposed) leaked government documents to support its claims.
That could be just me, though. I'll let another editor make the call. ZionniThePeruser (talk) 21:51, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done It doesn't in my opinion either. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:37, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

can someone find a picture of the billboard outside mike johnsons church

“For such a time as this,” it read, quoting a Bible verse alongside an image of a damaged Baptist church in Berdyansk, Ukraine. It addressed Johnson by name.

i feel like this is an important image to add to this article NotQualified (talk) 10:22, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 6 June 2024

France to provide Mirage 2000 fighter jets to Ukraine

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/france-provide-mirage-2000-warplanes-to-ukraine-macron-says-2024-06-06/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/06/06/ukraine-will-get-ex-french-mirage-2000-5-fighters/ https://www.politico.eu/article/france-fighter-jets-military-aviation-ukraine-emmanuel-macron-kyiv-direct-support-russia-war/ PAWPERSO (talk) 23:30, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Lightoil (talk) 22:25, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The content is already added to the France's section of the list. OhanaUnitedTalk page 20:12, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Slovenia

Can somebody please add link for BOV

It is under: Infantry mobility vehicles: Pipi Skoda (talk) 09:23, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Update to Australia

There was a new aid package announced in April of 2024 but the section says it hasn’t been updated since December 2023 - New package below:

https://www.minister.defence.gov.au/media-releases/2024-04-27/australia-continues-stand-ukraine Maxttck (talk) 10:51, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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