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A fact from List of individual body parts appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 12 July 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that a human toe used for cocktails (pictured) is one of many body parts that are tourist attractions?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/July. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/List of individual body parts.

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Rjjiii talk 19:38, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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toe used for cocktails

... that the Sourtoe (pictured) is one of many body parts found around the world?
- ALT1: ... that a toe used for cocktails (pictured) is one of many body parts found around the world?
- ALT2: ... that a human toe (pictured) is one of many body parts that are tourist attractions? "Up in the far north of Canada, there is a bar where you can order a shot of whiskey garnished with a real human toe."

arm of Thomas Aquinas

ALT3: ... that body parts such as arm bones (example pictured) are sometimes placed in arm-shaped reliquaries? Source: ...while a fragment of the bone in his left arm was eventually transferred to San Domenico Maggiore in Naples, where it is still preserved inside an arm-shaped reliquary made of bronze, silver and glass in the church’s Sacred Relics Chamber.
Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Melanie L. Campbell

Created by Gobonobo (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 119 past nominations.

gobonobo ⁺ ^c 23:02, 4 June 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Everything looks good to me! A very interesting list. Preference is for either toe hook. Noting that DYK Check shows less than 1500 characters, but the text in the list proper is well over the limit — Chris Woodrich (talk) 20:45, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In its current form, we'd have to IAR this as the prose size is 18 bytes short of the 1500 bytes limit. But I agree that there is so much (valuable) prose in the table that this should be ok. I shall note that the toe image is not in focus and thus recommend against using it. Schwede 66 06:29, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is a toe and an arm really the best we can do? Bentham's head, Geronimo's skill, Rasputin's penis, Che Guevara's hands... they're all fantastic stories! ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:48, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gobonobo, if the toe image can't be used, do you have a preference between toe hook (without image), arm hook (with image), or something else? Rjjⁱⁱⁱ (talk) 04:16, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

toe used for cocktails

The toe is fabulous (both unusual and intriguing) and I really think it is the best option if we're going with an image. It renders quite well at 140x140 pixels and is only out of focus if you click through to the enlarged image. However, we could use a different crop (example pictured) if you wanted something sharper. gobonobo ⁺ ^c 04:48, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Opinions on that version, Schwede66? Not about drinking it, but for DKY purposes, Rjjⁱⁱⁱ (talk) 05:03, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@AirshipJungleman29 and Rjjiii: There really are a lot of options here. I focused on the most interesting images of body parts, and didn't spend a lot of time considering using the portraits of the individuals. If the toe is too gross for people, maybe a hook about the Heart of Louis XIV being both eaten and made into paint, which could work without an image as well. I'm not sure how to word it though. There are a ton of options and I'm totally open to suggestions. gobonobo ⁺ ^c 05:10, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It’s up to the promoter to prep to decide on images. Schwede 66 08:27, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In Template:Did you know/Preparation area 3, the hook has been slightly changed to:

* ... that a human toe used for cocktails (pictured) is one of many body parts that are tourist attractions?

This combines the language of the toe hooks in a way that I hope is clear and verifiable. If there are any issues, I am fine with partially reverting back. Courtesy pings to DYK nom participants in case any do not have this page watchlisted: @Crisco 1492, Schwede66, AirshipJungleman29, and Gobonobo: Just posting here for transparency, Rjjⁱⁱⁱ (talk) 19:50, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Beethoven's hair

From the article Beethoven in film: Released in 2005, a docudrama titled Beethoven's Hair, directed by Larry Weinstein, traces the unlikely journey of a lock of hair cut from Beethoven's corpse and unravels the mystery of his tortured life and death with scientific evidence. Schwede 66 05:15, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good find Schwede66. I've added an entry for his hair. I didn't mention the docudrama, but if you want to add it, please do so, by all means. gobonobo ⁺ ^c 21:00, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's all good. I once saw the film, hence I hunted around for a photo. Schwede 66 06:31, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding Muhammad in the article

I noticed that Prophet Muhammad's listing in the table features a depiction of Him, and aren't depictions of prophets like Him usually considered as idolatory and therefore haram in Islam? I think we should do something about this.

Sincerely, Icantthinkofanamexd (talk)

03:45, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

When I wrote the article, I included an image of a rose there (File:Rose Hilye.jpg), which is traditionally used to symbolize Muhammad. It was replaced, but I've restored it for now. I would prefer the rose image or none at all. gobonobo ⁺ ^c 05:47, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps it would be better to have no image at all for people who have no photographs or contemporary portraits. It would give off an inaccurate impression that the [body part] was taken from [person who looks like this] when in reality we have no idea what they really looked like. ―Howard • 🌽³³ 07:52, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Howard's suggestion (removing all non-contemporary images) is elegant and I think it would work well for this specific case. It conpletely dodges the question of whether we should appeal to religious sensibilities (in this case, Islamic ones), which goes a long way for preserving neutrality. I am open to supporting it. Marisauna (talk) 16:25, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I replaced the image with calligraphy of his name. For the sake of respect I agree that an artistic depiction of Muhammad should not be used, as it is gravely offensive to many Muslims. Marisauna (talk) 16:08, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Title

Shouldn't this be renamed to List of notable body parts? Step hen 07:15, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of individual cats, List of individual dogs, List of individual trees, etc. all have the same titling format. It appears to be consistent with previous articles covering the same things. ―Howard • 🌽³³ 07:36, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Body part images

I do not believe it's necessary to include an example image of what a particular body part looks like in the "Body part" column. These are all quite generally known body parts which do not need illustrations outside of their respective articles. The illustrations also have an inconsistent style, with some being anatomical, others symbolic, still others animated. I recommend the illustrations in the "body part" be all removed. ―Howard • 🌽³³ 07:43, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I looked on Commons for a standard "set" of body part images to use, but couldn't find one. Personally, I'm a fan of the rotating skulls. gobonobo ⁺ ^c 09:48, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's funny but it looks unprofessional. ―Howard • 🌽³³ 22:52, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edward Drinker Cope

Can some editor with more recent experience add the skull of Edward Drinker Cope? There is a whole section in Cope's article about this. 164.107.80.208 (talk) 14:43, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]