Talk:List of U.S. state foods

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Merging with Muffins and Donuts

I just merged List of U.S. state muffins and List of U.S. state donuts into this page. I put the other two pages up for deletion. --CapitalR 10:10, 21 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wisconsin state muffin is dubious

Several not-very-WP:RS websites do mention "The 1988-89 fourth grade class of Washington School in Merrill, Wisconsin, proposed the Cranberry Muffin be named Wisconsin’s state muffin"[1], but the (tendentious and far-from-WP:RS) website freerepublic.com has an article that says "What about the group of fourth-graders from Merrill who, in the late 1980s, tried to get the cranberry muffin designated the official state muffin? The Legislature turned them down, even threatening to introduce competing legislation to use the official muffin title on the meadow muffin, which, for those of you not familiar with agricultural terminology, does not pop from the oven but rather drops from the hindquarters of a cow."[www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562726/posts] I don't know if that's accurate, either, but it does show that it is premature to put "the cranberry muffin is the state muffin of Wisconsin" into Wikipedia as an encyclopedic fact.

A reasonably comprehensive-looking list at official state website has flower, bird, tree, fish, dance, rock AND mineral, animal AND wildlife animal AND domesticated animal... no muffin.

Mind you, I'm personally fond of cheese curds, Haralson apples, and cranberry muffins, but I don't believe any of them are official. Dpbsmith (talk) 20:28, 21 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think the Hawaii state muffin is also dubious. Crypticfirefly 05:56, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Restoring beverages

I'm restoring the beverages to this page because (1) they were/are sourced on this page, unlike List of U.S. state beverages, and (2) I consider them a subset of food. (And in some cases the "beverage" is the only food emblem a state might have. If you remove them again, please make sure that the sources get merged over to the "beverages" article. Thanks. Crypticfirefly 05:07, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The class was really a second-grade class from Washington Elementary in Merrill. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.116.177.114 (talk) 05:46, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Missed

The Year instituted section should be also included to fruits I think. --Brand спойт 01:23, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ol' Virginny's State Food

I'm pretty sure Virginia's state food is not "Rocky Mountain Oysters" (which are, as I understand, calf/bull testicles). The Rocky's don't pass through Virginia for one, and (though I'm not a Virginian myself) that delicassy seems more popular in the mid-west and/or southwest. Further, Virginia's General Assembly website (http://legis.state.va.us) lists various State emblems... a state food is not among them.

I suspect someone was funnin'.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Prothonotar (talk • contribs) 17:59, 23 August 2006

Texas Sopaipilla

I followed the WP link and was wondering if someone can tell me why the sopaipilla, which is Texas's state food, is only referenced as belonging to New Mexico exclusively in the United States. I am not buying it. One of these pages is wrong or incomplete. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.113.131.65 (talk) 22:27, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Iowa

131.111.233.238 (talk · contribs), an IP address registered to the University of Cambridge, added Jelly baby as the "State Sweet" of Iowa in this series of edits. This is highly unlikely as it is a UK confectionery (somewhat popularized in the US by its appearance in Dr. Who), and the use of the term "Sweet" for "Candy" (AmE) is atypical in the US (but common in the UK), so this entry appears to be a hoax from across the pond. -- 63.224.135.113 (talk)

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Incorrect image

The image for the state fruit of North Carolina, the Scuppernong grape, is incorrectly documented with a picture of (as advertised on other Wikipedia articles) of Red Wine Grapes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.222.104.210 (talk) 02:54, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pennsylvania

House Bill 1892 was introduced in the PA legislature on Sept 5, 2001 to have the sugar cookie designated as the official state cookie. However, according to the PA General Assembly's records at (www.legis.state.pa.us/index.cfm) the bill was never voted on. Therefore, the sugar cookie currently is not an official state food. Chocolate chip cookies (2003) and oatmeal chocolate chip cookies (2004)have also been brought to the legislature, but no votes taken. Vmseb (talk) 15:21, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


House Bill 2182 states the cheesesteak as Pennsylvania's official sandwich. Here is the link to HB 2182. http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/billinfo/billinfo.cfm?syear=2009&sind=0&body=H&type=B&bn=2182 I do not know how to add this to the main article, otherwise, I would. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.66.64.247 (talk) 18:20, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Georgia

The official State Pie is the Pecan Pie (http://www1.legis.ga.gov/legis/1995_96/leg/fulltext/hr1137.htm) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drbjenx (talk • contribs) 07:45, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done No evidence the bill was adopted.[2] Thank you for your input. BiologicalMe (talk) 17:18, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Pennsylvania state food

Shoofly pie should definitely be listed as a Pennsylvania food. It's a Pennsylvania Dutch staple. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.235.194.146 (talk) 14:21, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done While a regional dish, it has not been officially adopted. BiologicalMe (talk) 16:34, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Puerto Rico

Although a Commonwealth, should the national dish of Puerto Rico, Lechon, be included in this list as well? --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 03:01, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

@RightCowLeftCoast:, I did some preliminary investigation and could not determine that Lechon is an officially adopted symbol. Research is challenging. I have not done exhaustive research, but List of Puerto Rico territorial symbols includes the coqui, and I don't believe that it is official.[3] States often fail to update their lists. I take a hard line approach on sourcing to avoid "unofficial official" entries, but if you have a source, I favor inclusion. I tried the official website but my Spanish is so dismal, I easily could have missed it. I hope my reply was adequately prompt. BiologicalMe (talk) 17:05, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Indiana should not be listed

While the Indiana Senate adopted a resolution naming a state pie, the legislation includes the word "unofficial." This resolution was not adopted by the House, nor was it approved by the governor. A simple resolution is not sufficient to name an official state emblem in the state of Indiana--a bill, passed with identical language by both houses of the General Assembly and signed by the governor, is the only avenue for naming a state emblem. News articles like the one cited here are incorrect in their characterization of the "Hoosier Pie." [1] This same situation applies to "water" listed as Indiana's state beverage. Aroseformo (talk) 19:01, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ http://www.in.gov/legislative/bills/2009/SRESP/SR0059.html

States Missing

California, Colorado, Connecticut, and Delaware are missing due to a mistake in coding. Can anyone fix this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.180.202.73 (talk) 18:25, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

 Done All states are listed, even if they have no official state food. BiologicalMe (talk) 16:26, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oklahoma State Foods Error

On the page, "List of U.S. state foods", it lists Oklahoma state foods separately, when it's suppose to be all in one "state meal" according to the reference link which is on the state gov website. The meal is suppose to be, "fried okra, squash, cornbread, barbecue pork, biscuits, sausage and gravy, grits, corn, strawberries, chicken fried steak, pecan pie, and black-eyed peas." Its 2nd reference link #35 has link rot. State Beverage: Milk is unlisted. I don't know how to make these corrections, can someone please do this? 108.67.185.221 (talk) 02:33, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Better late than never. BiologicalMe (talk) 16:25, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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California

Two actions have resulted in "official" foods. In 2013, during the Governor's absence, the Lt. Governor declared a number of official foods by proclamation.[4] Those have been deleted from the article in a single move and can easily be restored. In 2017, the bill to make almonds the official state nut was amended to include pistachios, walnuts and pecans, and became law.[5] Of the foods, The California State Library only lists the four nuts as state symbols.[6] BiologicalMe (talk) 17:21, 26 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Empty entries

I'm leaning towards having entries for states with no official foods, referenced by links to appropriate state symbols lists. If nothing else, it makes it easier to check if the records are up to date. While I just wrote "None", "N/a" or something else might be better with appropriate emphasis. At a few states a day, there's time for input before I act unilaterally. BiologicalMe (talk) 17:37, 26 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What constitutes food?

In some cases, alligator for example, it may be eaten, but might not principally source of food. A number of state fish would qualify. If a fruit or nut tree is designated, but not the food product specifically, does that qualify? As I find questionable cases, I'll collect them here and see how to formalize criteria for list inclusion. BiologicalMe (talk) 14:57, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Examples:

Connecticut: fish--American shad & shellfish--eastern oyster[7]
Georgia: game bird -- bobwhite quail[8] & crop -- peanut[9]
Kansas: animal -- American buffalo & fish -- channel catfish[10]
Louisiana: crustacean -- crawfish[11]
Maine: herb -- Wintergreen[12] & sweetener -- maple syrup[13]

After a finishing state-by-state clean-up, I'm likely to go to RfC, but compile data first. BiologicalMe (talk) 17:36, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Summary of overhaul, August 2018

I will leave my last edit in place for a while, as it was purging beverages from the list. Some of my rationale:

  1. There is a separate List of U.S. state beverages. It is available through the navbox and I added a "See also" for it. Apparently, there was a time when that list was not well referenced, but I found it was more up to date and better maintained than this one.
  2. No one bothered taking out the instruction not to include beverages.
  3. We don't need 20ish images of milk.

Every state is listed, if only to indicate the absence of entries. This may help avoid creative or misguided additions.

Every entry has a reference. It takes little effort to name and reuse a reference. I don't know if that was the case when this list was started. I tried to rely on state resources to the greatest extent possible. Hopefully that will protect from additions that have not become official.

I handled a few edge cases in notes. I left "sweetener" and "flavor", both maple, as included categories.

I added or changed a few images. I used the {{multiple image}} template a few times. I spent no time adjusting the arrangement, and I was not exacting in my selection process. There is room for improvement in images. For example, the strawberry image is nice, but the long stem makes for elongated entries.

I thought about an RfC, but decided to act boldly. Now it's time to allow for objections. BiologicalMe (talk) 02:17, 21 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Foods not listed on states' pages

Is there a particular reason why many of the foods here are not found on their corresponding states' pages (at least not explicitly stated to be "a state food")? Or should someone put them there? --Ayuskoto (talk) 00:10, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have any specific examples? I know that this list has been heavily reviewed and checked against official sources. (Perfection is not guaranteed.) One list on Wikipedia is not a source for another list, but if the sources check out (beware of aggregator websites that are not fact-checked), the lists should match. BiologicalMe (talk) 00:27, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
There are pages with the lists of state symbols, As an example, the List of Texas state symbols is linked several places on the Texas page. The structure of an article on a subject as vast as a state is to provide an overview with links to greater detail. I selected the Texas list because Texas is a state with numerous symbols including many foods. BiologicalMe (talk) 02:14, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
An example is Rhode Island's state appetizer, calamari, which is not in the List of Rhode Island state symbols. The Rhode Island page says that calamari is served in the state as part of the local culture, but not that it's the state appetizer. Another example is Alabama's lane cake, which is not in the List of Alabama state symbols or the Alabama page, and neither of these pages have any mention to any type of cake or dessert, although the Lane cake page does say that it's the state cake of Alabama. --Ayuskoto (talk) 15:20, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Good pick-ups. Do you know what other site doesn't list Lane cake? Alabama Department of Archives and History. A number of states pass laws about emblems and don't update their own websites. The law is on the books: AL Code § 1-2-41 (2019). Rhode Island passed calamari in 2014[14], but didn't update their website. Again, the statute is clearly on the books: § 42-4-19. State appetizer.
I am partial to using statutes or state "blue books" which are activlely updated, unlike websites. Some states don't use bills signed by the governor, so statutes don't work in those cases. If you would like to add them, the sources are here. If not, I'll get around to it soon. BiologicalMe (talk) 15:52, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I dealt with those two. If you see any more, feel free to change them yourself. If you have any questions, please contact me on my talk page. Again, that was a good eye for detail. BiologicalMe (talk) 17:55, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! --Ayuskoto (talk) 19:53, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

DC?

Washington, D.C. has a state fruit, the cherry (2006), but it's not a state. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ayuskoto (talk • contribs) 14:25, 19 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I guess it's not a "state fruit," then. It's an official fruit. —Ayuskoto (talk) 14:28, 19 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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