Talk:Juan Branco/Archive 1

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An interesting article.

I added a bit of information on MINUSCA. I would also suggest the following clean-up/changes:

1. I don't think the article should be written in the present tense.

2. The header should focus more on the things Branco is most known for imo. This would be the Assange/Wikileaks and the Melenchon/political side and not so much the work at the court(s).

3. I would suggest adding a reference to this [1] in the trivia. Something like this maybe: "He accused the entourage of an unknown "high functionary" in the French government of threatening him after his Wikipedia entry was deleted in 2016 for being an autobiographical hagiography. "

4. Some references/citations are not really sufficient imo. I'm mostly having issues with the IMdB link, which is community based and not a valid citation. I think this: "According to David Cronenberg and Don DeLillo, he triggered the adaptation of Cosmopolis to film." should be deleted accordingly.

I would appreciate some feedback before I make the changes. 83.217.132.38 (talk) 10:58, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

I obviously disagree with the latest addition by Banguicourage which violates multiple guidelines. As I can sense this has already taken a political turn (the username is a bit on the nose, no?), I won't contribute to this article anymore. Good luck! 83.217.132.38 (talk) 15:42, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

if anything, i think both edits (yours and the one of banguicourage) are orientated (in opposite directions) and should be reverted, the first version being neutral and sufficient (details of the operation should be added in a specific page). if an admin or someone with an account passes through here, please do so. imo, for clear reasons, only registered accounts with previous edits should be authorized to intervene in living people pages. regarding Cosmopolis, i found the references that sourced the IMDB article on the french page, and added them here.

3 is not an encyclopedic information. on the merits, it seems futile and rather autocentered, especially since the hagiographic tone is contested (see WP restore which basically recreated the same page once sources were sufficient). The blog post that you mention was anonymous, and according to Branco, written by the same person who initiated and pushed for the deletion proceeding. see here http://branco.blog.lemonde.fr/tag/juan-branco-wikipedia/. i found also this source, which is not open, but could be useful (see page 2): https://www.mediapart.fr/journal/international/240718/les-speculations-sur-une-remise-d-assange-aux-autorites-britanniques-s-intensifient

2 and 1 agreed, but have no patience for that right now.

last: you should create your account if you want to intervene on living people's pages, especially you only contribute on one page and intend to make controversial changes that could affect their reputation. Do you have any link with this person, positive or negative ? If so, it might be wiser to refrain yourself. WP is not a playground or space for revenge, and the consequences of our actions in it can be very real.

ljm — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.214.162.115 (talk) 15:58, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

I completed your additions instead of deleting it because they were partial and tried to hide that the population of PK5 was massacred. Juan Branco is a whistleblower for PK5 people and Vladimir monteiro is paid to defend his institution at whatever cost, so i think they should not be put at the same level but i understand this is a encyclopedia, so instead of deleting,i just neutralized it by adding more sources and trying to contextualize the situation. i don't think its fair thoguh Banguicourage (talk) 12:00, 16 October 2018 (UTC)banguicourage

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