Talk:Jesus nut

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This article survived a Vote for Deletion. The discussion can be found here. -Splash 22:41, 12 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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"The exact cause was never determined, but it is likely that the Jesus nut failed for reasons unknown [1]."

This sentence makes no sense at all. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 130.160.144.102 (talk • contribs) 02:12, 31 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Makes perfect sense to me. Feel free to suggest alternatives. --Turbothy 00:03, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Try taking out the redundant "for reasons unknown". --David Gardner —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.114.243.75 (talk) 20:25, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Needs a picture

What's wrong with just posting the picture from the link? Or if that won't do (dang copywrite laws), perhaps a picture from somewhere else should be included in the aricle. Kevin 23:24, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A single jesus nut?

It would be extraordinary for one bolt to hold on the entire rotor blade assembly in a full-size helicopter. My understanding is that each bolt holds one rotor blade: http://everything2.com discussion of jesus nut/bolt The 'Huey' UH-1 Iroquois helicopter link does not mention a jesus nut/bolt anywhere on the page. Can anyone confirm this - or name another helicopter that genuinely employs a single Jesus nut/bolt?

I wonder whether this image ('Pat inspects' - the 8th image on page) is significant? wingsandrotors.org website

'Pat' is quite clearly looking at the central rotor shaft of the machine, rather than any individual blade attachment point.

Centrepull (talk) 18:32, 23 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

First, it's not a bolt, it's a nut. I can't speak for other mfr aircraft, but for most of the Bell 2-bladed systems, the Jesus nut does hold the entire rotor system on. I'll try and upload pics of the 222's Jesus Nut (I've got one on my desk as a paper weight). The nut is about 5" in diameter, and it gets torqued to 675 foot pounds (yes, that takes a really BIG torque wrench!) There was even an infamous crash where a mech left the Jesus nut off a JetRanger. The friction between the splines of the mast and the rotor head held everything together during a flight until the pilot practiced an autorotation, which then unloaded the rotor system (the rotor began driving the transmission, instead of the transmission driving the rotor), eliminated the friction, and the rotor system came off...killed both on board, one of which was the mech that made the mistake. Unless someone posts a definitive answer to your Huey question, next week I'll try to climb up on our neighbor's UH-1 and get a photo. As for your comment that each bolt holds a blade, that's incorrect. Those are called "blade bolts". AKRadecki^Speaketh 23:04, 23 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pic's up now. AKRadecki^Speaketh 23:18, 23 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Random Sentences

The Jesus nut, also called the Jesus pin, is the nut that holds the main rotor to the mast of some helicopters, such as the UH-1 Iroquois helicopter. It is a slang term that maybe was first coined by American soldiers in Vietnam; the technical term is main rotor retaining nut. Other sources suppose that the term may be coined as early as by Igor Sikorsky, a pioneer of rotor wing aircraft, who was a deeply religious person [1]. The Vietnam War was the first war fought seriously by the helicopter.

The rest of the paragraph is okay, but the last sentence was a bit random, as it doesn't actually have anything to do with the rest of the paragraph. If you still want to include this fact (or preferably one about when Jesus nuts or helicopters were first used at all), then it would probably do best near the other Vietnam War facts in paragraphs 3 and 4.
Also, it would probably be a good idea to unbold "critical component" and "stay aloft" in paragraph 5. Thanks. --David Gardner

Reordered and reworded a little

I took the liberty to reorder the information a little bit, to put the more useful explanatory information first. People had inserted a bunch of "me-too" information willy-nilly, none of which I deleted or changed. It was a little hard to suss out the relevant information. Echo5Joker 12:21, 8 Feb 2009 (CDST)

Weasel words

While it might not be the best written or sourced Wiki article, I don't see any weasel wording. Can anyone point it out? Talltim (talk) 11:19, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am surprised it has a weasel tag. I think this is a good, relevant article. I first heard of the Jesus Nut from my father (whose business sold all sorts of bolts and nuts, but not these), I'd guess in the early 1970's. I'm pretty sure the term would have been understood before then to mean a very, um, spiritual Christian. At the time I think he said the name came from "what people said when it comes off", or "pray to Jesus" as the article puts it, but there are also references that say it is because you "meet Jesus" (e.g. http://www.seattleacademy.info/wp_pdfs/joearticles/01%20-%20The_Story_of_the_Jesus_Nut.pdf). I hope the "weasel alert" wasn't some automated response to the word "Jesus" occurring in the article... that would be silly, because it is half the title! Maitchy (talk) 06:21, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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