Talk:Hinduism in the United Kingdom

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added the section on Non South Asians

i have seen a black family worshipping in East Ham Temple and a number of whites in ISKCON temple off oxford street. As also, the case of Gearge Harrison was not mentioned. So, added the section "interest in Britan" Any one who can think of a bettter title is welcome to change it. --Hydman 12:50, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ganesh statue that drank milk?

Wasn't there a Ganesh statue that drank milk in the UK?--Dangerous-Boy 21:16, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Article move

I have moved the article to Hinduism in the United Kingdom (from Hinduism in United Kingdom), as it is a more accurate name for the country. Furthermore, as What Links Here suggests, this article name is more sought after, which is possibly because other articles (I'm thinking predominantly of Islam in the United Kingdom) follow this formula. Bastin8 18:55, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Article being considered for deletion UK Hindu Identity

The following article is being considered for deletion.--Coffeesuds 15:17, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]


UK Hindu Identity

In UK, the Hindus (mostly from India) and the Muslims (mostly from Pakistan and Bangladesh) have now culturally and economically drifted apart. They now belong to opposite ends of social spectrum in UK. Many, perhaps most, UK Hindus do not wish to be identified with Pakistanis and Bangladeshi, and thus do not wish to be called "Asian" [1][2][3].

  1. Unemplyment rate: The unemplyment rate in Indians in UK is about 7%, comparable to that of the whites. On the other hand Bangladeshis and Pakistanis have the highest unemployment rates of 18% and 14% [4]. The richest person in UK, Lakshmi Mittal is an Indian [5].
  2. Academic achievements:The Indian and the Chinese pupils are likely to achieve among the highest grades in schools where as Pakistanis and Bangladeshis are likely to score lower [6]. Indians are more likely than the whites to have college degrees, where as Pakistanis and Bangladeshis are less likely [7].
  3. Involvement in riots: In all racial riots involving "Asians", it is really Pakistanis and Bangladeshis who are involved. Indians are not involved. In fact, in some cases Indians and whites have been joint target of rioters [8]].
  4. Islamic militancy: The Pakistanis have tolerated Islamic militacy in UK, they have often been a significant part of the activities [9]. They are closely connected with Kashmir militancy. The Indian Hindus are completely opposed to such activities. The London train bombers Shehzad Tanweer [10] and Mohammad Sidique Khan were both UK Pakistanis. Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh, the killer of Daniel Pearl was also a UK Pakistani.

Hindus feel marginalized by the use of the term Asian:

"However, you cannot ignore the fact that many Hindus, and also Sikhs, feel marginalised in British society. These are real feelings and it’s better to engage with them then ignore or mock them. They feel doubly marginalised, not only as ‘Asians’, but because of the presumption, even amongst educated people, that being ‘Asian’ is synonymous with being Muslim. I was listening to a debate on Muslim alienation on Radio 4 and Clare Fox kept saying how British society needs to engage with ‘Asian’ youth. But she was using the word when she was talking about Muslim youth. It totally slaps you in the face - it makes you invisible and says “You are irrelevant you dont matter you do not exist" Sanj — on 11th July, 2006
"“Asian” is a term concocted by Britian’s elites to fudge differences and to avoid facing a couple of unpleasant realities. It is the British equivalent of France’s “Youths”." John Palubiski — on 12th July, 2006

The Bangladeshis and Pakistanis often have strong tensions between them as well. Internationally, Bangladesh generally has friendlier relations with India than with Pakistan. I do not quite see what this section was aiming at. Is there a part of the article that needs to be changed? There is a mention of how many Hindus left Bradford after the 2001 riots, where they often got targetted by criminal elements in both the Muslim and the White communities. Is there anything else that needs adding? Epa101 (talk) 15:38, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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England not a region

I don't like the info box describing England as a Region. Can anyone change it? I can't see how to. Cheers Fishiehelper2 (talk) 21:48, 13 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Proposed merge of Hindu Council UK into Hinduism in the United Kingdom

Now that the copyvio has been removed, there's essentially nothing left in that page. Based on what is (and what was) in the page, the topic does not begin to meet our notability guideline for organisations. It would make sense to mention it briefly here. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 12:36, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support, per my comments at that talk page. Insufficient content for a standalone (and I scraped through the sources twice). Vanamonde (Talk) 15:55, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This has been open for months, with two supports and no opposition. I have gone ahead and performed the merge/redirect; if anyone wants to take issue with it, I am happy to discuss it further here. Vanamonde (Talk) 23:52, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Vanamonde – I'd completely forgotten about this. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 18:57, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"undivided india" and the census data

> Among those of Indian origins, Hindus in the United Kingdom (27%) constituted the second largest group after Muslims of undivided India (57%), and exceeded Sikhs (14%) in the 2011 census of the United Kingdom.

This is not found in the cited source, which breaks down population by local authority, and the census only gathers ethnic identity by: Asian/Asian British: Indian Asian/Asian British: Pakistani Asian/Asian British: Bangladeshi Asian/Asian British: Chinese Asian/Asian British: Other Asian Which I presume Indian, Pakistani and Bangladeshi were totalled to produce a figure for "undivided india". This is:

  • Innaccurate, as it discounts some territory found in the concept of "undivided india"(Myanmar/Burma, for example)
  • Original research(I think- adding these togehter is
  • Uncited to the actual data used for the original research.
  • A long way from NPOV! the concept is tied to a specific political stance, as is documented on wikipedia. I think including Pakistani people under this category is quite obviously going to lead to issues.

I've currently cut it: I'm not sure it's central to the lead paragraph, but if we wanted to have a breakdown of how much of a given community is hindu, we could use the Asian/Asian british or Asian/Asian British:Inidan data? Adacable (talk) 11:07, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, Original research(I think- adding these togehter is individual research, and not actually possible using the data source cited. Adacable (talk) 11:08, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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