Talk:Clostridioides difficile

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Wikidata code

If I'm right, this bacteria has recently been renamed. But why also Wikidata code? I was surprised that the English article was not in the list of https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q56290719. Why can't the article in English be in the same list? It's still the same, right? Please, help me! Calle Widmann (talk) 05:04, 25 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The link to the English article is on Wikidata--scroll down and see it on the bottom left. Both are there in the taxonbar on the article here too ( {{Taxonbar|from1=Q56290719|from2=Q310543}} ), but Clostridioides is currently hidden because it does not currently have any external identifiers assigned to it on Wikidata. I believe it needs at least one or two for it to appear on the article here. –Hyperik ⌜talk⌟ 13:05, 25 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What bothers me and what I don't understand is why the article in English has no link from all the other almost 30 languages on Wikipedia. All the other languages link to each other (for example sv:Clostridium difficile) but English does not. If a person is on another version on Wikipedia and wants to read about the same topic in English, there's no link. I understand that it has to do with the fact that the English version has included new knowledge first published in 2016 and in the Wikipedia article on May 23rd, 2018. But new knowledge does not make this bacteria being something new. Calle Widmann (talk) 04:10, 8 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The question might be better posed on Wikidata. Per this discussion[1], I tried adding Clostridium difficle as a taxon synonym (P1420) at Clostridioides difficile Lawson et al. 2016 (Q56290719), but the interlanguage links don't seem to have been updated here on Wikipedia. —Hyperik ⌜talk⌟ 18:02, 8 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Calle Widmann (talk) 04:30, 9 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Hyperik: other languages (interwiki list) are still not displaying here on enwp, maybe the wikidata item should be moved back since it is still synonymous with all the other wiki-languages' "Clostridium difficile"? --Treetear (talk) 16:47, 12 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Treetear: Did you pose the question at Wikidata? Maybe @Peter coxhead: knows a solution? Sorry, I'm not sure. —Hyperik ⌜talk⌟ 16:50, 12 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but no I didn't post it on Wikidata, not sure yet where it should be posted there. Your link to Wikidata project Taxonomy could be a good place, will look into it. Thank you for your help regardless, I will check there. --Treetear (talk) 16:55, 12 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

For inter-wiki links to show up, all the wikis have to be linked to exactly the same Wikidata item. So we would need to link en:Clostridioides difficile (bacteria) to Clostridium difficile (Q310543), not Clostridioides difficile Lawson et al. 2016 (Q56290719). The problem is that although these two Wikidata items claim that they are instances of a taxon, they are not (and this is well known at Wikidata). They are instances of a taxon name. Our article is at the taxon name Clostridiodes difficile and so should be linked to the Wikidata item for that name. As and when the other language wikis update their taxonomy, then the links to their articles can be moved to Clostridioides difficile Lawson et al. 2016 (Q56290719). Apart from anything else, when we don't link to the correctly named Wikidata item, the taxonbar does not behave properly.

Wikidata has been asked repeatedly to fix the problem. When two taxon name items are said to be taxonomic synonyms, then all the language wikis should be linked together. So far there has been no response to this request. Peter coxhead (talk) 20:33, 12 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I've also fixed the taxon ids at Wikidata. A number of those at Clostridium difficile (Q310543) were actually links to Clostridiodes difficile and should have been at Clostridioides difficile Lawson et al. 2016 (Q56290719). This makes the taxonbar show up correctly at en:Clostridioides difficile (bacteria). Peter coxhead (talk) 20:44, 12 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Article title is wrong

Surely the article title should be "Clostridioides difficile (bacterium)"? We don't put animal taxa needing disambiguation at "... (animals)" or plant taxa needing disambiguation at "... (plants)". Peter coxhead (talk) 20:48, 12 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Peter coxhead: Why is the parenthetical disambiguation needed at all? Is there a reason the article isn't titled Clostridioides difficile, which is currently a redirect here? Deli nk (talk) 20:12, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No idea; you're right, there's no need for disambiguation at all. Presumably someone thought that to distinguish Clostridioides difficile infection from the organism needed both to be disambiguated. But this isn't how it works. Move to Clostridioides difficile. Peter coxhead (talk) 21:26, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"C. difficile" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect C. difficile and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 10#C. difficile until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:25, 10 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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This should have a section, but creating one is far beyond my skill set. Fxmastermind (talk) 12:09, 29 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Si dificile" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Si dificile and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 21#Si dificile until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Plantdrew (talk) 16:31, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]