Talk:CarterCopter

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Rename?

Carter Aviation Technologies refers to this aircraft as the CCTD in its press releases. I would recommend that the article be renamed to Carter CCTD. --Born2flie (talk) 01:31, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Works for me. - BillCJ (talk) 01:51, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Depends what you think the scope is, I think it's too early to split the article, and the concept covers more than their prototype.- (User) Wolfkeeper (Talk) 02:05, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That seems to be a major problem with the article - is it about the concept, or the Demonstrator (the only thing built so far, per the article)? I don't think anything needs to be split at this point, but the page should either be refocused on the CCTD as an aircraft page (my preference), or converted to an article on the concept of the low-speed rotor compound autogyro. It really shouldn't try to be both. Whatever it does, it needs some sources other than from the manufacturer. - BillCJ (talk) 02:19, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think the technology demonstrator is particularly interesting per se. AFAIK they're not going to directly productize it, it only goes to prove their concept out. There's also not a great deal of data on it, and the design has changed over time.- (User) Wolfkeeper (Talk) 02:48, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The only issue I can see is that other than Carter Aviation's press releases and papers, there just isn't a lot of coverage of the CCTD, or even the concept, that is generated by other entities. We do have articles on one-off aircraft. So, whether they go into production with this aircraft isn't going to dictate whether we include an article on it. Interestingly enough, the CCTD was originally publicized as just the CarterCopter. It was intended to not only be a proof of concept aircraft but to attract purchase orders, and when enough demand was demonstrated, then Carter planned to somehow begin production. You can see a similar concept with the PAV and other designs on the website. As the development problems surfaced, Carter changed the business model, especially since the CCTD never approached the early marketed performance (450 knots @ FL450). Now the company markets designs and technology. If the PAV performs, will Carter build it or license the design to someone else? Groen Brothers Aviation? Schweitzer? --Born2flie (talk) 13:54, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I guess that ultimately whether there's a single source or not, we're really interested in verifiability not truth here. If this company is misrepresenting their work, we'll never know unless somebody reputable says that. Therefore I think that removing the single source tag may be reasonable.- (User) Wolfkeeper (Talk) 04:01, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
As to whether the CCTD was ever intended to be productised, I honestly can't remember, and I couldn't tell from a brief look at their website. I know they seemed to have problems getting a suitable engine that would fit. The basic tech more or less seems to work other than that AFAICT.- (User) Wolfkeeper (Talk) 04:01, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Rename should be made when we have en article (μ or SR/C ?) about overcoming http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissymmetry_of_lift , thus seperating the concept from the aircrafts. This aircraft is about potential, less about performance for now. TGCP (talk) 16:00, 20 December 2009 (UTC)TGCP[reply]

REALLY REALLY Out of date. Concept picked up by Tekron, NASA and the DOD for major funding at the end of 2009. Totally new demostrator/prototype built. 66.68.23.251 (talk) 05:26, 25 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This article is about the original aircraft that crashed. For subsequent aircraft, see Carter PAV and possibly the company article. This discussion could reshape how related content is distributed among these articles. TGCP (talk) 09:34, 25 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Is it? Probably more inline with Wikipedia goals to start with generic article on the technology concepts and then subordinate articles on the company and specific prototypes. 72.182.8.122 (talk) 09:46, 28 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
We now have a photo of an aircraft in the article, although it is not the original CCTD, but the Carter PAV. I guess we should discuss again whether this article is about the technology or the one aircraft called CCTD ? TGCP (talk) 19:40, 25 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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==Stub== Needs a lot of work. How many different references to type of aircraft can be used to confuse the reader about which type of aircraft this is. The aircraft is a compound gyroplane, in that it has the structures and features of both an airplane and an autogyro, but it is not a gyrodyne, in that it does not have a powered rotor. The rotor is prerotated, just as an autogyro with jump-takeoff capability. --Born2flie 07:42, 22 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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