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Title image location

The article refers to an image on the "right". On mobile the image is below that paragraph. Perhaps refer to the "title" image.

British India

British india is a place in between india and britain. The place was formed by a british and indian couple mated. And when they mated they formed a society which more british people and indian people came and mated and created a bigger society. Also when british india was formed they came up with a word called sex and fuck instead of mate. Later they came up with the entertainment called porn (which is still here today, by searching porn on a search engine.

I disagree, South Asia was rarely one unified state except for a few blimps which were the exception. The term India was in fact coined by the British, and the region was called British India and has nothing to do with Pakistanis but is a universal fact. Prior to the arrival of the British, the region was ruled by many others who never used the term india to describe the entire peninsula but rather just the small portion of the indus river near the province of Sindh. Hope that helps settle things! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.228.14.213 (talk) 19:35, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Cats in Medieval Europe

"The people of Europe believed cats were evil and so domestic house cats were killed. Without these cats, the rat population was dramatically increased, there were more infectious fleas, and disease transmission was more likely."

I would like to see far more evidence to back this claim up. This sounds a bit ridiculous and like an over generalization. I don't see a source to this claim at all. Also, there is a contradiction in this sentence. If cats were believed to be evil by Europeans, as it is claimed in the above sentence, then they would not have been domesticated.

Furthermore, the only claims I can find backing this evidence are various dubious internet sites that have no sources or citations to back their evidence, and if they do, they are usually links to other dubious internet sites. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.108.248.241 (talk) 20:45, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

It's not a contradiction, some people had domesticated cats before all of these crazy beliefs about them being evil were around. Their owners could have been convinced, or wanted to make sure they weren't rumored evil as well by keeping them, so they killed them. It's not a contradiction at all. Also, I can see this as being possibly true since cats have always been great mousers and great at catching rats as well. It wouldn't be hard for the rat population to go up if their natural predator was out of the way, and also seeing how fast rats reproduce, it would be a greater problem. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.118.49.29 (talk) 21:26, 12 January 2014 (UTC)



Later Outbreak section needs small changes

The later outbreak section implies that the island of Oahu is located on the island of Hawaii (!). Further, it is written in a USA-centric manner, referring to the USA as "here" and saying that the plague was "brought" rather than transferred. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.194.71.249 (talk) 16:20, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Nothing on the origin of the plague

I can't see anything about debates over where the plague originated: Manchuria, Yunnan, Central Africa, etc.? It would seem to be a worthwhile addition to the history. 96.231.17.131 (talk) 16:51, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Eradication

Some explanation of why it hasn't been eradicated and why it hasn't caused pandemics recently would be interesting. -- Beland (talk) 13:52, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

There's a theory that the reason the three pandemics happened was because of climate change. The Medieval plague period in particular was characterized by a climactic shift towards cooler, wetter climate, which caused famine (weakening the immune systems of victims) and brought hosts of the disease closer to human populations. I could make an edit but I don't know whether this theory would fit on this page or on the Black Death page better. -- Home Griffin (talk) 22:29, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Pictures - missing and irrelevant?

The pictures of the victim injuries and the flea are very relevant. The picture of the "mass grave in Martigues" is missing. The picture of the butcher shop in Sydney was taken at the time of the 1900 outbreak, apparently, but there's no mention at all about how the content of the picture is relevant to the article... 157.130.11.206 (talk) 13:15, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

2014 case of an American catching the plague from his cat

Two sources: www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/jan/31/i-caught-plague-from-my-cat?CMP=twt_gu http://news.ninemsn.com.au/health/2014/02/03/13/08/paul-gaylord-caught-bubonic-plague-from-cat

If anyone wants to add to the article in latest incidents. I'm too busy having peasants tend to my crops and slaves drop grapes in my mouth. 106.68.120.79 (talk) 11:03, 3 February 2014 (UTC) Sutter Cane

Spread from coughing

Apparently skeletons found in London support a theory of transmission from coughing, not by fleas.[1]. Something to consider. --ColonelHenry (talk) 01:09, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

According to scientists working at Public Health England in Porton Down, the Black Death wasn't caused by bubonic plague at all, but rather by pneumonic plague. Link to article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.52.207.103 (talk) 04:00, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 July 2014

the paragraph headed Cause should be headed Vector.

this paragraph describes how the bubonic plague is carried and infects a victim. which is a description of a vector not a cause. the causes might include poor sanitation, lack of knowledge about antibiotics etc....


Peepo com (talk) 07:41, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Not done for now: The paragraph includes a statement of what the plague is, and what it can progress to, i.e. it covers more than just the Vectors, of how it is carried and transmitted. I agree that Cause is inadequate, as more of the paragraph covers transmission. Can you suggest an alternative section title, covering all these aspects? - Arjayay (talk) 12:57, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 July 2014

There was a case of Bubonic plague discovered in Yumen, China. City has been sealed off.

Source: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/22/chinese-city-yumen-sealed-bubonic-plague-death 90.191.166.186 (talk) 16:40, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Not done for now: This is an interesting piece of news, but I don't think it's important enough in the history of bubonic plague to be worth including in the article yet. If this grows into an epidemic in China or something on that scale, then maybe we should include it. —Mr. Granger (talk · contribs) 00:27, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Citation for pneumonic plague communicability.

"The plague is also known to spread to the lungs and become the disease known as the pneumonic plague. This form of the disease is highly communicable as the bacteria can be transmitted in droplets emitted when coughing or sneezing.[citation needed]"

Here's a citation: http://www.who.int/topics/plague/en/ If the bacteria reach the lungs, the patient develops pneumonia (pneumonic plague), which is then transmissible from person to person through infected droplets spread by coughing. Initial symptoms of bubonic plague appear 7–10 days after infection.

I don't have semi-edit privileges so I'd appreciate it if someone added it for me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noonespeciall (talk • contribs) 14:46, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

Medieval illustration

Probably not the bubonic plague

The description on Commons for the file on the right reads "Miniature out of the Toggenburg Bible (Switzerland) of 1411. The disease is widely believed to be the plague. The location of bumps or blisters, however, is more consistent with smallpox (as the bubonic plague normally causes them only in the groin and in the armpits). is generally interpreted as a depiction of the plague - "the Black Death". As the interpretation is that it's probably not the bubonic plague I've removed it from this article, and replaced it with File:Burying Plague Victims of Tournai.jpg. Nev1 (talk) 12:22, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

hello how are you any one — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.168.248.224 (talk) 22:00, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

lol

tghtedyeryeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee hi people u should not belive what wikipedia says because people edit it so yh — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilovewekipedia (talk • contribs) 17:32, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Actually silly people like you make silly remarks that get erased very quickly. Thousands of editors watch out for vandalism and stupid remarks. Rjensen (talk) 17:34, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Multiple plague reintroductions from Asia from boom and bust Asian rodent populations, such as the gerbil, carried by traders and pack animals

From PNAS:

Abstract The Black Death, originating in Asia, arrived in the Mediterranean harbors of Europe in 1347 CE, via the land and sea trade routes of the ancient Silk Road system. This epidemic marked the start of the second plague pandemic, which lasted in Europe until the early 19th century. This pandemic is generally understood as the consequence of a singular introduction of Yersinia pestis, after which the disease established itself in European rodents over four centuries. To locate these putative plague reservoirs, we studied the climate fluctuations that preceded regional plague epidemics, based on a dataset of 7,711 georeferenced historical plague outbreaks and 15 annually resolved tree-ring records from Europe and Asia. We provide evidence for repeated climate-driven reintroductions of the bacterium into European harbors from reservoirs in Asia, with a delay of 15 ± 1 y. Our analysis finds no support for the existence of permanent plague reservoirs in medieval Europe. [2]

From Gerbils likely pushed plague to Europe in Middle Ages Geoff Brumfiel · NPR:

"I like rats," says Nils Christian Stenseth, an evolutionary ecologist at the University of Oslo. "But there is a myth around rats that they are evil."

He says the rat story doesn't add up: If rats carried plague to Europe, and Europe is still full of rats today, then plague should also be found in European cities. But it isn't.

Stenseth suspects that the plague came to Europe multiple times from Asia, where it still exists today. The rodents that carry plague in Asia include the cutest of infectious hosts: the gerbil.

"What we are suggesting is that it was gerbils in Central Asia and the bacterium in gerbils that eventually came to Europe," Stenseth says. The scientists used climate records to check their theory, and they found a tentative link. When the climate in Asia was good, gerbils are thought to have thrived; but when it went bad, the population crashed. And about 15 years after each boom and bust, a plague outbreak erupted in Europe. The theory is that fleas carrying plague jumped from dead gerbils to pack animals and human traders, who then brought it to European cities. The research team's results appear in the current issue of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.[3]

97.85.173.38 (talk) 10:59, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 June 2015

Correct spelling from "urban micobiome" to "urban microbiome". 98.119.70.136 (talk) 07:41, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

 Done Thanks for pointing that out - Arjayay (talk) 09:23, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Rats versus small animals

While rats may have been the most important cause historically the WHO states "usually found in small animals and their fleas. It is transmitted between animals and humans by the bite of infected fleas, direct contact, inhalation and rarely, ingestion of infective materials."[4] The added source is nearly 10 years old than what was used before. Thus restored restored the animal bit. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 06:07, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Recent research seems to suggest the role of rats in the spread of the plague may be overblown, almost to the point of myth. Rather, it would seem that lice and fleas which parasitized (and were carried by) humans directly were the main vector by which the disease was transmitted. It may serve to explain this in some section of the article, given how commonly the spread is blamed on rats. 2601:18E:C300:1190:61C3:AE5B:5267:6BC2 (talk) 20:37, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

Death

This source "If left untreated, death often occurs within 15 hours of the appearance of symptoms.[1]" is for septicemic plague not bubonic plague. Also it is Juvenile Nonfiction. I will see if I can find something better. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 06:11, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Kevin Cunningham (1 January 2011). Bubonic Plague. ABDO. p. 20. ISBN 978-1-61758-920-1.

Semi-protected edit request on 30 October 2015

This is pretty straightforward & simple:

"In the bubonic form of plague, the bacteria enter through the skin through a flea bite and travels via the lymphatics..." Here "lymphatics" should be changed to "lymphatic system"; the former is only appropriate when already discussing the lymphatic system, the present form will confuse readers. It confused me, at least.

"Diagnosis is by finding the bacterium in the blood" Here please change "bacterium" to the plural form "bacteria"; the singular form disagrees with the modifier "the" earlier in the sentence.

"in 2013 there was about 750 documented cases" Here "was" should be changed to the plural form "were" in order to modify the plural "cases" later in the sentence.

This should make the article much easier to read, which will be a great relief, much thanks. TFitts91 (talk) 06:29, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Done. Ruslik_Zero 20:59, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Glaring Omission

Somewhere in the history/treatment sections there should be an account of who/when/where first discovered the link between the fleas, the rats and the disease, and the subsequent therapeutic response. Orthotox (talk) 22:32, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Do you want to research and write that? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 08:50, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
The history section of this article is already pretty hefty. Perhaps for the history of transmission, a separate article on transmission of Y. pestis might be more appropriate? Thoughts? I'd be happy to get a start on it if people think it may be useful.Ajpolino (talk) 18:21, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 March 2016

Vlad the awesome (talk) 04:28, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not requested a change.
If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 09:58, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Airborne, not spread by rat fleas?

"Now, analysis of skeletal remains found by construction workers digging railway tunnels in central London has led scientists to a stunning new conclusion: The Black Death was not transmitted through flea bites at all, but was an airborne plague spread through the coughs, sneezes and breath of infected human victims." - http://www.history.com/news/medieval-black-death-was-airborne-scientists-say —Darxus (talk) 00:33, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

So pneumonic plague rather than bubonic plague. I am sure it will take some time to shake out in the academic literature. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 01:44, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

Impact outside Europe

The article skips rather quickly over the impact outside of Europe. At least a third of China was wiped out, and a similar impact can be expected along the plague's westward expansion. Sub-Saharan Africa wasn't 'unaffected', merely ignored in the records. Some work is needed here, this was anything but a European only event. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.115.70.210 (talk) 08:39, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing this up. It would be very helpful if you could find some references that describe the plague outside of Europe and post them here. Alternatively, you could be WP:BOLD and edit the section yourself. If you dont have the time, feel free to post material here and we can discuss. Thanks!Ajpolino (talk) 03:39, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

Comma usage

I think that "Death if it occurs is typically within ten days" should become "Death, if it occurs, is typically within ten days". (Hitbyabus6 (talk) 21:44, 12 January 2017 (UTC))

Done Mitch Ames (talk) 00:34, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 January 2017

" Arab historians Ibn Al-Wardni and Almaqrizi believed the Black Death originated in Mongolia, and this was proven correct as Chinese records showed a huge outbreak in Mongolia in the early 1330s.[21] "

This statement reads simplistically for such a critical point in history. Written as if to shift some perceived blame. Any further references?? 78.55.24.159 (talk) 05:46, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

The template should be used only for precise editing requests. Ruslik_Zero 19:19, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Edit Request

The Song "Ring around the Rosy" was based on this outbreak. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mathosiantech (talk • contribs) 18:57, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

It was a good story, but it appears that's not true. It's discussed a bit at Ring_a_Ring_o'_Roses#Meaning. Bummer. Ajpolino (talk) 02:38, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

A contradiction in the main article.

(I'm a new user. I hope this is the proper place to post this.) The section "Third Outbreak" contains the statement: "Like the two previous outbreaks, this one also originated in Eastern Asia.[27]" The section "First Outbreak," however, strongly implies throughout that the first outbreak occurred in the Byzantine Empire. "The first recorded epidemic affected the Eastern Roman Empire (Byzantine Empire)" "In the spring of 542, the plague arrived in Constantinople, working its way from port city to port city and spreading around the Mediterranean Sea, LATER[caps mine] migrating inland eastward into Asia Minor..." It contains no reference to any East Asian source, and the Byzantine Empire did not extend eastward beyond the Mediterranean region at that time[1], according the the Wikipedia article on the Byzantine Empire. I don't know which is correct, only that the two sections contradict each other, at least implicitly. -hoping someone educated on the subject(as I am not) can make amendments to resolve the apparent contradiction.Brindlewiki (talk) 00:50, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Empire#/media/File:Justinian555AD.png
Where the first pandemic originated is not known but often it is thought that in the same place where the two later pandemics - East Asia, though it may be Africa. Ruslik_Zero 20:57, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

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Bibliography of Potential Literature

Hello, I am currently in the process of researching the bubonic plague in hopes of contributing useful information to the wiki site. I am doing this for a class assignment. I have identified a couple of books to begin my research but if anyone has other/better sources that you believe I should take a look at please let me know. Daily Life During the Black Death (Daily Life Through History Series) by Joseph P. Byrne. ISBN-10:0313332975. Plague by Donald Emmeluth. Redlabel9562 (talk) 20:43, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

Biological Warfare

There are significant chunks of weapons history missing in the biological warfare section of this page. While Japan's involvement in plague weapon development is described, Russian/USSR involvement is absent. Any reason for this? Any reason I should not edit it in? sneks?(talk) 18:15, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 May 2020

Change "most deadly" to "deadliest." Jbkuop (talk) 23:37, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

@Jbkuop:  Done! GoingBatty (talk) 23:58, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Link request

Could someone please add https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pest#Beulenpest As the German interlanguage Link? I fail to find how to do it. Thanks! EnTerbury (talk) 23:34, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Bubonic plague is not caused only by yersinia

The page that describes Bubonic plage, claims that it is caused only by the bactria yersinia pestis. And thats not true, all plague viruses cause plague disease. Martinoyo (talk) 22:39, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Do Not Change Plague is caused by Yersinia Pestis, a species of bacteria, not viruses. PainProf (talk) 00:06, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

Possessive apostrophe required

In the sentence,

'Other forms of the disease include septicemic plague and pneumonic plague in which the bacterium reproduces in the persons blood and lungs respectively.'

,the word 'persons' should have an apostrophe,

'Other forms of the disease include septicemic plague and pneumonic plague in which the bacterium reproduces in the person's blood and lungs respectively.' Pee Willy (talk) 07:42, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

Corrected. Ruslik_Zero 19:51, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Symptoms heading

Adding more information to elaborate about the symptoms Rosyposy01 (talk) 17:24, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Changes

Added a section about the current happenings of the Bubonic Plague within the research field due to advancements in technology. Also adding more detail and information within the 1st pandemic section and also the cause section. Heather Rood (talk) 17:28, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

New research suggests...

New research suggests it was spread by human fleas and lice and NOT rat flees. https://www.the-scientist.com/the-nutshell/human-fleas-and-lice-spread-black-death-30409 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.132.235.142 (talk) 19:15, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

I switched the order of the cause and signs and symptoms sections to improve organization. Rosyposy01 (talk) 18:16, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Edit needed

The following text should be moved from the image caption to the beginning of the Cause section: "Bubonic plague is an infection of the lymphatic system, usually resulting from the bite of an infected flea, Xenopsylla cheopis (the Oriental rat flea).[13] Several flea species carried the bubonic plague, " Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.28.206.235 (talk) 15:38, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Edit needed

There is an obvious spelling mistake in the "Continued Research" section, about eight (8) lines down on my monitor, which reads "died of the Bubonic plaque". "Plaque", in this instance should obviously read "plague". I'm not a registered user, but someone who is ought to fix this. (I don't know why quoting from the article to the edit section of the talk page has to be made so difficult; I'm just a reader who is offering some simple help. I would have just fixed the spelling and moved on, had I been allowed to.) 96.54.233.206 (talk) 06:49, 7 May 2021 (UTC)I'm not sure how to do this "sign" thing correctly. 6:46, 7 May 2021 UTC

Cause

The Cause section appears to begin in the middle of a sentence. Could someone determine what was deleted and either restore or correct it? KevinDarkStar (talk) 21:01, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

putismo

muere — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.194.127.37 (talk) 02:09, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Sentence makes no sense

"This, in turn, combated those that recommended killing the rats in heavily populated cities in an effort to combat the plague." I am not sure what is intended, so cannot edit it. Perhaps it could be deleted? Theeurocrat (talk) 21:46, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Grain shipments from Africa & Alexandria is redundant since Alexandria, Egypt is in Africa the continent.

In the Bubonic Plague article there is no need to excise Africa from Alexandria since its a city in the African Nation of Egypt. Alexandria, Egypt is in Africa[1]NorthsideRasta (talk) 03:11, 16 December 2021 (UTC).

References

  1. ^ Any world atlas.


Other Biological Warfare Notes

Seems reasonable to also mention both Operation_Cherry_Blossoms_at_Night and Allegations_of_biological_warfare_in_the_Korean_War under the biological warfare section. Jchook (talk) 01:46, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 January 2022

Spelling: "develoepd" should be "developed"

"While vaccines against the plague have been develoepd, the World Health Organization recommends"... LankyLasagna (talk) 10:38, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

 Done thanks! Hemantha (talk) 11:43, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 January 2022

{{subst:trim|1=

change "hares" to "rats" in the second paragraph.

 Not done: Cited source says rabbits and hares. Also read on to the Bubonic plague#Cause section, rats were less susceptible to the plague - meaning they did not die as easily from it and therefore were better suited to carrying the fleas and spreading the plague Cannolis (talk) 02:04, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Citation added

Added a citation within the signs and symptoms section for this sentence: Other forms of the disease include septicemic plague and pneumonic plague in which the bacterium reproduces in the person's blood and lungs respectively. This encyclopedia "Encyclopedia of pestilence, pandemics, and plagues" hadn't yet been cited for this article.--SHSLibrarian (talk) 19:20, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Wiki Education assignment: Plagues and People

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Contradiction of other related articles

Near the middle of the "Cause" paragraph on this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubonic_plague is this statement: The bacteria remain harmless to the flea

These two related articles both say the bacteria cause death of the flea: 

this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plague_(disease): The bacteria multiply inside the flea, sticking together to form a plug that blocks its stomach and causes it to starve.
this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yersinia_pestis: Aggregation in the biofilm inhibits feeding

I submit this information for consideration by someone authorized to edit this article. Dwm39tall (talk) 22:54, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

Good catch. The first half of that sentence is clearly false, and it's unclear what "new host" refers to in the second half of the sentence (the flea? the rodent? a second rodent? a human?). I've removed it wholesale. Edderiofer (talk) 03:10, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Correction of the description of entry of the plague into mainland Europe

The Wikipedia article states "The Black Death originated in Central Asia and spread from Italy and then throughout other European countries" ("History" section "Second Pandemic" subheading) and this is vague and misleading. A better description seems to be: "the Black Death, entered Europe via commercial and trading centers in the port cities on the Italian Peninsula and on the Mediterranean coast of France."*

This elaboration is important because the lack of information in the first description leads to theories about the plague entering through human social activities rather than via the usual import of goods intended for trade and commercial purposes. The nature of entry of the plague was less a matter of careless behaviour and more an event that exposed the weaknesses in a trading system that was normal practice and based on integrated economic activity. Real Meanings (talk) 15:51, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

death as a complication

Hi Could someone remove "death" in the section "complications" since it is not one properly speaking (on the contrary, the disease ends with death).


176.128.237.169 (talk) 21:00, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Looks like it's been done now. Edderiofer (talk) 22:55, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 March 2023

the bubonic plague is not the cause of the black death. 2601:601:4000:C210:FCC2:39D9:1DD3:E2F9 (talk) 20:32, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 21:31, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Pronunciation?

I've heard bubonic pronounced mostly as "byoo-bon-ik", but I've also heard it pronounced as "boo-bon-ik". So which is the more correct pronunciation? The bubo article does not provide much help. — Loadmaster (talk) 14:19, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

Wiki Education assignment: Plagues and People

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Semi-protected edit request on 25 October 2023

"A plague that originated in Europe" is not a complete sentence and is right at the beginning of the page. I question the decision to lock the page if the lead editors aren't going to take responsibility for it. 2603:7081:1603:A300:B0C3:95EC:16:690E (talk) 13:01, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

 Fixed by reverting what was the most recent edit to the page. Please note that there are no 'lead editors' – the page protection logs indicate that it was protected due to high levels of vandalism, which I can assure you is more disruptive than grammatical errors. Tollens (talk) 00:31, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
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