This article is within the scope of WikiProject Jordan, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Jordan on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.JordanWikipedia:WikiProject JordanTemplate:WikiProject JordanJordan articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Palestine, a team effort dedicated to building and maintaining comprehensive, informative and balanced articles related to the geographic Palestine region, the Palestinian people and the State of Palestine on Wikipedia. Join us by visiting the project page, where you can add your name to the list of members where you can contribute to the discussions.PalestineWikipedia:WikiProject PalestineTemplate:WikiProject PalestinePalestine-related articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Syria, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Syria on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.SyriaWikipedia:WikiProject SyriaTemplate:WikiProject SyriaSyria articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Saudi Arabia, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of articles related to Saudi Arabia on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Saudi ArabiaWikipedia:WikiProject Saudi ArabiaTemplate:WikiProject Saudi ArabiaSaudi Arabia articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Arab world, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the Arab world on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Arab worldWikipedia:WikiProject Arab worldTemplate:WikiProject Arab worldArab world articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Middle Ages, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the Middle Ages on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Middle AgesWikipedia:WikiProject Middle AgesTemplate:WikiProject Middle AgesMiddle Ages articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Geography, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of geography on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.GeographyWikipedia:WikiProject GeographyTemplate:WikiProject Geographygeography articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject History, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the subject of History on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.HistoryWikipedia:WikiProject HistoryTemplate:WikiProject Historyhistory articles
This mountain range almost doesn't show up on English Wiki, and it's missing in lots of places (only think of Petra). If it is closely related to this article's topic, which seems plausible, it should at least be mentioned here. That would allow wikilinks and maybe even redirects to be created, at least until Jabal ash-Sharah gets its own article. Arminden (talk) 20:40, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Al Ameer son: hi, I just looked up the edit history. This is yours, as well?! I had no idea. Can you please look into my question? Is it just a peak, as a lonely website indicates, or is it the whole range rising above Wadi Arabah/Arava from the east around Petra? What are the boundaries, mainly N and S? There is close to nothing online. Mount Seir mentions the term, but w/o a source. Last year I had dropped a question about the meaning of the name on that talk page, too, but w/o any response. Thanks, Arminden (talk) 22:46, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
BibleGateway has an entry on Seir - not mountain or land of, just Seir. According to their bibliography, it's from the The Zondervan Pictorial Encyclopedia of the Bible. It suggests an evolution of the term's geographical meaning, and ends by saying that "The present writer feels that a dogmatic conclusion is unwarranted." This line we should follow as well. Arminden (talk) 23:01, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Arminden: This article is about the highland region running south from Wadi Mujib. Like most Arabic places, there are several transliterations: al-Sharat, al-Sharah or al-Shara, with or without Jabal, Jibal or Bilad. The name is used til now for the region and its usage dates back to the early Islamic period. To my knowledge, the name refers to the range (and probably the surrounding area) not a particular mountain, but that is common with the technically singular 'Jabal' (such as Jabal Nablus, Jabal Amil, Jabal Bahra). It is one of the three main highland areas of Jordan, the other two being the Balqa (Amman, Salt, Madaba) and Jabal Ajlun/Jabal Jarash/Jabal Awf (around Irbid). Did not know beforehand the relation with Seir but there could be an etymological link with al-Shara. If such a link exists, would be great to find a reliable source and add it to the article.
And yes, itshould redirect here or we should rename this article 'Jabal al-Sharah' since the current title more commonly refers to the early Islamic subdivision. Al Ameer (talk) 05:11, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
.svg){kind=small}
