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• Those who are interested in the Visual Editor situation might be interested in a similar situation at

Wikipedia talk:Flow#No edit conflicts? where many of the same issues are in play. --Guy Macon (talk) 06:54, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

• As someone who voted for opt-out, even I got the hint that VisualEditor was opposed by most editors active enough to participate in the RfC, with good reason. WMF must understand the proposal was premature. It is not production ready enough for English Wikipedia expectations. This was said over and over (and over). I do consider the comments to the effect that VisualEditor should be disabled to make it harder to edit Wikipedia as "nonresponsive"; that is a policy decision that was not under discussion. But even with that said, consensus was still very strongly against because of technical concerns. So I reiterate that the proposal should be re-submitted in the mildly distant future after it is technically sound, with any and all comments to the effect that edits should be made more difficult ignored as against some WMF policy (a policy or whatev should be passed to reflect this if necessary). Int21h (talk) 07:20, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

• I must have missed the Declaration of Independence that Antarctica seems to have made.... Peridon (talk) 07:25, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
  • Antarctica has about eighty internationally-agreed historic monuments - see Historic Sites and Monuments in Antarctica - few if any of which are on the equivalent heritage lists of any specific country. Handling it as an extra "country" seemed the most practical way to do it! There have been 19 submissions so far... Andrew Gray (talk) 19:31, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
    • It seems to be a very religious place! Johnbod (talk) 20:09, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
• Anasuya is not a new hire for WMF. She joined WMF in July 2012. Her title has changed but I think the role is more or less the same. I think Nonprofit Quarterly is a little behind. ASengupta (WMF) can you clarify? --Pine^✉ 07:28, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
  • Ack, that's my fault for not double-checking. It looks like she was promoted earlier this year. My apologies, Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 19:17, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
    • Thanks for noticing, Pine and Ed! It's true I was hired in July last year, but the NPQ did have it right in that Frank Schulenburg and I are the two 'newest' members on the leadership team at WMF, even though our promotions took place a while ago. :-) ASengupta (WMF) (talk) 03:46, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
• James Forrester is actually the product manager for VisualEditor. While it is true that product managers often also act as project managers and therefore what is written here is not incorrect, it would be more correct to refer to him by his proper title. --Dan Garry, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 10:51, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
  • Thanks Dan, fixed. - Dank (push to talk) 15:17, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
    • Thanks to both of you. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 19:17, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

• A modern editor emulating a 1980s word processor is so retro. Get with the times: 140 character per article (and type with your thumbs). ~ 16:29, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

What's a collective membership mark? Is this another term for collective trade mark? If so, once this is confirmed, please redirect it. Otherwise, a stub would be nice. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:43, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

"Featured lists election: An election to select two new delegates for the featured list candidates process is being held from 1 to 30 October. Nominations will be accepted from 1 to 7 October. Voting starts on 15 October."

• I checked the Talk Page and it said that these elections were canceled and might be rescheduled (see FLC Elections). Can you find out what happened? I couldn't find any information explaining it. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:29, 3 October 2013 (UTC)