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#113 Francophone Women editathon in March

I've just tweeted to @WikimediaCAfr , @WikimediaCH , and to @Wikimedia_Fr regarding our upcoming event, if you can think of any other orgs, please do suggest. The message was:—

Bonjour! Women in Red is facilitating a "Francophone Women" virtual editathon in March. We'd be happy if u would join in this effort in any way that is comfortable for u (in-person event; virtual; creating articles in FR or EN).❤️ @Rosiestep https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Meetup/113

These could be Wikimedia Affiliates or non-wiki organizations/people. Also, if you think we should be tweeting about our other March event (A+F & #VisibleWikiWomen) to specific orgs/people, suggestions/comments are welcome. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:33, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

I've also sent out messages to pertinent projects on the EN and FR wikis. Let's hope they help. It might well be worthwhile alerting some of our French-speaking participants too, e.g. Anthere.--Ipigott (talk) 13:19, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
Yp. There are also several events (face to face) organized in March in France. Coordination page here : w:fr:Projet:Les sans pagEs/8 mars 2019. I'll facilitate an event myself on the 8th at the Univ Library. I still have to work on an article list... Will try to do some com' next week as well... Anthere (talk)
Anthere: I see that's for International Women's Day on the 8th. That coincides with our Women's History Month focus. But we can work on both together. Lots of opportunities for French-English collaboration in March. Please spread the message!--Ipigott (talk) 21:06, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Advice?

Anyone up for giving some advice on whether to split an article? John and Vera Richter exists, but I thought Vera looked notable enough that they maybe both deserved their own article. Their work overlaps (they owned a restaurant together) but Vera also wrote an influential cookbook, wrote columns for the local papers, was a feminist, and had some pretty interesting views. Recently the I've been working on User:Valereee/Vera Richter. Should I keep working and propose splitting the John and Vera article, or should I add this info to John and Vera? Thanks for any advice! 14:03, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Any opera buffs?

I've just started working on an article about Alma Webster Hall Powell. I came across her name in Motion Picture Story Magazine as the author of photoplay about suffrage, but upon looking her up, discovered that she was also a primadonna soprano with a PhD in political science from Columbia University. I don't know much of anything about opera, but I thought maybe someone around here might. If so, let me know if you'd like to work with me on this article, or have any resources I should check out! Nonmodernist (talk) 00:03, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Opera is just packed to the gunnels with such people ;) --Tagishsimon (talk) 00:09, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Talk pages consultation 2019

The Wikimedia Foundation has invited the various Wikimedia communities, including the English Wikipedia, to participate in a consultation on improving communication methods within the Wikimedia projects. As such, a request for comment has been created at Wikipedia:Talk pages consultation 2019. You are invited to express your views and/or to add new topics in the discussion. ∯WBGconverse 07:04, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

I'm new can anybody help me?

I wanted to help with writing new articles but did not realize that there were so many intricacies. I have started working on an article about Heike Vesper and since I'm new I cannot publish it and would also like it edited before publishing. Can anybody help me? Thanks --Cangellr12 (talk) 15:03, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi there, Cangellr12, and welcome to Women in Red. I'm not too sure exactly what kind of help you are after but if you want guidance on editing, it might be a good idea to start with The_Wikipedia_Adventure. If you want help with writing biographies, have a look at our Ten Simple Rules and at Editing Biographies. As for your draft of Heike Vesper, why not put it in your User:Cangellr12/sandbox where we can see what you've been doing? I see there is already a German version of her bio. Why not base the English version on that? Please let me know if I can help you further.--Ipigott (talk) 10:47, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
Hi Ipigott I published the article in User:Cangellr12/sandbox. I guess I just did not know how to publish it but after reading I think I need to edit articles before I can write and publish entirely new one? so I will start with that. In the meantime, the article is in the sandbox. Thanks for your help :) --Cangellr12 (talk) 13:33, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
I've moved the article into article space - Heike Vesper albeit needs categories. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:41, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
I did some basic formatting, and see that it was moved. Try to place blogs into an External links section, because they ae not considered reliable sources. It looks quite good, and I will look again later. Welcome! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:42, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
DYK .... that Heike Vesper thinks the EU doesn't do enough to tackle plastic pollution? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:47, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for March 8, International Women's Day

A DYK nomination has tentatively been chosen as the lead hook for March 8. If you would like to help with an appropriate hook, please click here: DYK Caroline Katzenstein Thanks for your input. — Maile (talk) 15:53, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

2019 Sloan Fellows

The recipients of the 2019 Sloan Research Fellowships have been announced. This looks to be a promising place to scan for article candidates. XOR'easter (talk) 20:44, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Bank of England long list for £50

The Bank of England has published the long list of people in science they are considering for the back of the new £50 note. Does anyone know a way of converting a PDF to word so I can analyse it and identify any women without a wiki page?

https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/-/media/boe/files/banknotes/50-character-selection.pdf Moira Paul (talk) 13:09, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

@Moira Paul: - User:Tagishsimon/junk2 --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:43, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
I've reduced the 5 red linked women to 4 by providing the missing redirect from Angela Helen Clayton! PamD 14:45, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
And all the remaining four seem truly notable and interesting women - here's one source on each for a start:
PamD 15:08, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
Good to see there's only four women redlinks now :) --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:58, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
@Tagishsimon: That's brilliant! and so good to know nearly all of them are already here. Moira Paul (talk) 21:44, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
Went through and created a Wikidata item for Sylvia Meek (Q61875663) using Sylvia Meek. (Q47694966)[1] as a source. William Graham talk 22:01, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
I think the Angela Clayton article may have some issues because the photo does not appear to resemble the identifying photo at https://www.cbd.edu/2017/06/08/angela-clayton/ or the biographic information at http://web.archive.org/web/20100914002400/http://www.pfc.org.uk:80/node/1044 William Graham talk 22:34, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Misguided template

Can anyone fix Template:WIR-109 which for some reason is linking to Meetup 111: Geofocus The Ancient World? See Talk:Edris Allan.--Ipigott (talk) 08:33, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

A purge seems to have fixed it. How does it look to you? --Tagishsimon (talk) 08:40, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
You're right. Seems to have been a cache problem. I closed Firefox completely. After reopening, all was fine. I have a nasty habit of leaving Firefox open from one day to the next. In future, I'll restart it every morning.--Ipigott (talk) 17:14, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
I just fixed it with this edit. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:16, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, but even after your edit it was still not working for me. Now I've cleared the cache, it is.--Ipigott (talk) 17:26, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Karin Schnass

Karin Schnass, an article I created (based on her being awarded the Start-Preis, "the highest Austrian award for young scientists"), has been prodded, apparently by or at the instigation of the subject, with the rationale that "several women of higher reputation in the same area of math/cs have no page". On the one hand, I don't feel that this is a valid rationale (name them and we can add them to our redlists of people who should have a page; for instance Kjersti Engan certainly should have one). And although many Start-Preis recipients have no article, I think that they mostly should, and making even fewer of them have articles is not an improvement. On the other hand, I am somewhat sympathetic to the subject's desire to stay out of the public view. So although I am tempted to de-prod this, I haven't done it yet. Anyone else here have an opinion on what to do in this sort of case? —David Eppstein (talk) 22:32, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Neither of the reasons adduced are good. Other things exist. Info could be found elsewhere. I'd deprod, not least since there is not an objection to the dissemination of the information, given that it has been made available by the subject. --Tagishsimon (talk) 22:51, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
The Start-Preis is awarded to 6-8 young scientists pa, with a research grant. Presumably most are Austrian. I rather doubt recipients would pass an AFD if it is the main claim to notability. Same with the Sloan Research Fellowship (see a few sections up), or a Royal Society Research Fellowship. Johnbod (talk) 01:49, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
It seems to me that both the Wittgenstein Award and the Start-Preis are highly significant Austrian awards, both in terms of prize money and recognition. While nearly all of those who have received the Wittgenstein have Wikipedia articles in German and English, we seem to have a great deal of work to do on the Start-Preis. I'm sure Karin Schnass would feel more comfortable if the other 2014 recipients were also covered. I strongly suggest that the article should be maintained and I hope David Eppstein will continue his coverage of award-winning mathematicians.--Ipigott (talk) 08:26, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
Pleased to see that the article in not under threat any more. Victuallers (talk) 10:38, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Leading with Wikipedia: A brand proposal for 2030

This may interest some of you: Leading with Wikipedia: A brand proposal for 2030. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:11, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

tbh, I'd rather they spent the money on tools that work rather than fatuous branding exercises. I'm in the camp that thinks WMF executive are more than semi-detached from an understanding of the needs associated with the websites they have charge of. --Tagishsimon (talk) 17:15, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
Yes, it would probably be a good idea to base everything on Wikipedia. I remember I was once very surprised to be called a Wikimedian rather than a Wikipedian. Wikimedian has always sounded mathematical to me.
It's a bit like the discussion some of us have been having on Women in Red. Once a brand is widely recognized it's just as well to keep it. But why wait until 2030? What's wrong with 2020?--Ipigott (talk) 17:23, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
On that subject. UNESCO partnered with volunteers, ourselves and our French sister project Les Sans Pages last year to run editathons to fix the gender gap with March 8th. This year they are partnering Wikimedia... Victuallers (talk) 10:43, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia, including thousands of women's biographies, headed to the moon

An interesting news article about a time capsule on its way to the moon, carrying "a 30-million-page archive of human knowledge"--English speaking Wikipedia. 30-million page library is heading to the moon to help preserve human civilization. MauraWen (talk) 12:19, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Looking for stats on percentage of biographies about women by language and by country

Hi all

I have a request from the Icelandic delegation at UNESCO on Icelandic representation on Wikipedia. I know there used to be a tool to measure this but when I try to go to it it says page not found. They want to know:

  • Percentage of biographies that are about women on the Icelandic Wikipedia
  • Percentage of biographies about Icelandic people across all language Wikipedias (or maybe English, French, Icelandic, Spanish etc)

Does anyone have any pre-written queries that would work for this?

Thanks very much

John Cummings (talk) 15:52, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

@John Cummings: I'm afraid right now you need to work out percentiles yourself; here is a first pass for the two questions ... I'll maybe do more work later to work out the percentiles automatically:
  • Percentage of biographies that are about women on the Icelandic Wikipedia
  • Percentage of biographies about Icelandic people across all language Wikipedias (or maybe English, French, Icelandic, Spanish etc) -
Oops ... the below give you gender splits for Icelandic people, not percentile of Icelandic versus non-Icelandic people ... more later & sorry about that.. The 'all language wiki' reports count individuals once, no matter how many wikis they have articles on.
  • this - based only on country of citizenship, country for sport or (mistakenly) country - all language wikipedias (but excluding and commons, source, etc)
  • this - based only on country of citizenship, country for sport or (mistakenly) country, plus born in a locality in Iceland - all language wikipedias (but excluding and commons, source, etc)
--Tagishsimon (talk) 16:44, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
So whilst I wait to find out if it's possible to count huge numbers of biography articles, here are some cobbled together stats, taking the count of all articles from WHGI and the count of Icelanders from the reports above:
  • EN wiki - 1,604,512 biography articles, 3,027 Icelanders (citizens and born in) = 0.19%
  • DE wiki - 71,1125 biography articles, 1,388 Icelanders (citizens and born in) = 0.20%
  • FR wiki - 557,780 biography articles, 1,388 Icelanders (citizens and born in) = 0.19%
  • RU wiki - 403,160 biography articles, 564 Icelanders (citizens and born in) = 0.14%
  • IT wiki - 366,014 biography articles, 953 Icelanders (citizens and born in) = 0.36%
  • ES wiki - 363,983 biography articles, 705 Icelanders (citizens and born in) = 0.19%
  • IS wiki - 9,314 biography articles, 1,496 Icelanders (citizens and born in) = 16.06%
--Tagishsimon (talk) 18:11, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
And, finally for now, Iceland's population is circa 0.005% of world population, so taking that as a rough metric, they're punching well above their weight. --Tagishsimon (talk) 18:26, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Interesting to see that there are over twice as many Icelandic bios on the EN wiki than on the IS.--Ipigott (talk) 20:54, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
I see from here that 16.42% of the 7,443 biographies on the IS wiki are about women. Don't know on what exactly these numbers are based but they do come from the Wikidata Concepts Monitor.--Ipigott (talk) 21:08, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
Good work. That's presumably the new version of the now dead Denelezh's tool, and pretty much exactly the thing John was looking for in the first place. My wikidata report gives 16.78% ... unsure where the discrepancy arises from except perhaps WDCM specifying "Last update: 2018 September 03". --Tagishsimon (talk) 21:25, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
Tagishsimon: It's been around for quite some time. Denelezh's tool came later. As you're something of a Wikidata specialist, I was surprised you did not know about it. It's comprehensive but unfortunately it's not updated very often and therefore not really suitable for our WiR stats. As you noted, the current version is from last September.--Ipigott (talk) 07:35, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
The vast extent of the hinterlands of my ignorance is without compass, Ian. --Tagishsimon (talk) 08:30, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
Now that's just the kind of quote I could use myself from time to time. Nicely put!--Ipigott (talk) 10:41, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

@Tagishsimon:, thanks so much for this, exactly what we needed. John Cummings (talk) 20:22, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Cornell March 8 editathon

Cornell, with its editathon on women and the arts, is just one of many institutions set on improving coverage of women on March 8.--Ipigott (talk) 08:58, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Edith M. Bairdain

Came across this while stub-sorting. Not likely to survive at present - main source is Findagrave, main assertion of notability that she was first female PhD in field X in university Y - not enough. But the "click for more" text on Findagrave suggests an interesting life and googling suggests that she and husband were cited in various things. Can't do much, on phone today, but someone might like to try to rescue her? PamD 08:04, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Found a 1970 paper they wrote on "Psychological Operations Studies -- Vietnam April 1970". Could be an interesting story. PamD 08:17, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
@PamD: I found some good coverage of her from the 1960s. During that time and prior, women were very involved in technology, but this is exactly the point in time where they began to get sidelined and driven out. She was one of the founders of Society for Information Display but that information isn't available on their site or anywhere else. This bio is a good example of how women get "erased" from history. She's buried in these newspaper articles and was obviously an expert with interesting ideas... so what happened? *sigh* Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:16, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
@Megalibrarygirl: Interesting life it seems - where her Findagrave discreetly says "She and her husband, Dr. Fred Bairdain through their company, Asyst, traveled the world advising the state department and Department of Defense on matters related to foreign conflicts", it turns out that they wrote the definitive work on PSYOP in Vietnam! Have added it. Thanks for your work on her too. PamD 18:22, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
She was totally interesting, PamD! I love the picture of her on the Find-a-Grave. I would love to be able to add it to her article. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:27, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
Well I suppose there's the provision under fair use for portraits of deceased people, surely? But on the other hand I suppose Findagrave isn't a reliable source so there's no proof that it's actually our Edith. Pity, that. PamD 23:02, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
Maybe you could ask Sandy Lyle to upload the photo on Commons or simply add it to the EN article.--Ipigott (talk) 12:19, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Commons help

I've been working on adding a Commons category by year to all the images that are posted in the Outcomes section of every Women in Red event page. I do it one by one by one by one: click on the image, add the category, click back to the event page; repeat. Time consuming to say the least. Is there a way to batch add the Commons category to all the images on a particular Women in Red event page? For example, last night, I was working on adding the 2017 Commons category to all the images from August 2017 #1day1woman. I got as far as "Miss Noyes, daughter of Crosby Stuart Noyes". There are still so many after that which need to be categorized; plus September 2017 #1day1woman, October 2017 #1day1woman, etc. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:13, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

I can understand your frustration, Rosie, but I am not too clear on why you think it is so important to add the WiR Commons category to all these images. Most of the images I have added to Commons over the past four years have been in connection with articles I have created or enhanced for Women in Red but I have not been adding WiR cats. If the only reason for adding a Commons category is to show how many images have been created as a result of work on WiR, then I'm sure there are many, many more which have never been included in media outcomes. Do you really think it is worthwhile spending lots of time on this type of categorization? It might be more productive to work on other priorities, especially article creation. I must say, my timetable seems overloaded with article creation and improvement assignments for the next few weeks -- so I don't really think I can help out. For the future, though, I would be happy to add a WiR category to all the pertinent new images I upload on Commons. "Category:Media supported by WikiProject Women in Red - 2019" is quite a mouthful. Couldn't it be reduced to "Category:2019 WIR media"?--Ipigott (talk) 08:08, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
Ipigott Thanks for your thoughts. I am hopeful that a Commons Admin could add it in one fell swoop to all the images on a given event's page. Keeping my fingers crossed. Like you, most of the images I have added to Commons over the past four years have been in connection with articles I have created or enhanced for Women in Red and I didn't add many of them to an events page; that's ok. I'm doing it going forward, and I see that others are doing so, too. Looking at the big picture, I think documentation is important, ergo why I created Commons cats by year for images created as aresult of work on WiR. Conversations with @Roger: regarding the importance of adding images to Commons has been inspirational. The Conversations with #VisualWikiWomen campaign leaders have been inspirational. So creating the Commons cats comes from a multitude of reasons why I think it's important to tag images associated with our work with an appropriate Commons category. As for reducing it to something shorter, perhaps that can be done (e.g. as a redirect?) but I don't know how to do it. Maybe a pagestalker does? If it is possible, "Category:2019 WIR media" would need to be tweaked as in the wiki movement, "WIR" is the acronym for Wikipedian-in-Residence, so we should come up with something that avoids confusion. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:53, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
Whether an editor on Commons has sysop rights would be irrelevant for this issue. Other than the normal deletion/restoration/so forth, the admin kit doesn't enable any special functionality wrt categories. There is Cat-a-lot which can perform batch tasks, but it isn't enabled here on en.wiki, and it only activates on category pages or on user contribution pages. If the files are not otherwise grouped by some other category or by some user the it's useless. There is also Visual File Change, which can run custom queries, but it also is not enabled on en.wiki. However, you might be able to find someone who is tech savvy to write a custom bit that would allow it to make batch tasks based on all the images available on an single en.wiki page, such as this one. But as far as I'm aware, that would have to be custom built for this issue, and I haven't the slightest idea how difficult that would be. GMGtalk 16:06, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
@GreenMeansGo: Hopping in here for a sec to note that, in fact, Cat-a-Lot is enabled as a script here on the English Wikipedia. It's a bit tricky, and I don't quite remember how, but if you like I can dig up the instructions later and let you know. :-) --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:47, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
Oh really? We got it enabled on the English Wikiquote and it's been a life saver, but I believe I asked about it at the village pump a few months ago about using it here and didn't really get anywhere. GMGtalk 16:49, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
No wait. I think I was asking about Visual File Changer now that I think about it. GMGtalk 16:51, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
GreenMeansGo, Do the instructions at c:Help:Gadget-Cat-a-lot#As your user gadget not work? Copying that code into Special:MyPage/common.js should work (Cat-a-lot, as with any script, should work as a user script as well as a gadget.) Galobtter (pingó mió) 16:54, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
I haven't tried it. I usually stay well away from editing my .js if I can, lest I find some way to block myself and delete my account accidentally. Now what we do need, if you can figure out how to make it work, is a way to force cat-a-lot to enable on any page (not just cats and contribs) and treat all files and links as targets. This came up previously here and we never really found a solution. But it would totally solve the problem Rosie is having here. GMGtalk 16:59, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
I realize I didn't fully respond to Ipigott's comment... yes, it would be a good habit, going forward, to add this category (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Media_supported_by_WikiProject_Women_in_Red_-_2019) when we upload an image associated with our scope. If someone forgets or doesn't wish to do so, no worries. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:18, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Our Birthday in May, Founders meeting and 18%?

It will be exactly four years since we started Women in Red and it looks as if "the founders" will meet for the first time in May. (There must be "a story" in that). When we started in May 2015 we guesstimated that the %age of women was 14-15% and that was confirmed when this project built Wikidata based tools to get an accurate figure. Since then you have organised >100 editathons and we've partnered with Universities, UNESCO, United Nations, the BBC and now UCI and we have 19 sister projects in different languages (never mind counting countries). We were a finalist for a UN award. Not bad considering we have no (paid!) staff or budget, just a lot of people volunteering their time. There is a lot of moaning about the gender gap and Wikipedia as #5 web site is fairly in the firing line. However old fashioned biographies were typically only 8% women. Wikipedia allows anyone to improve that percentage.... thank you again for your help. In May we have arranged an editathon at UCI and I am thrilled to say that Rosie and I will be there. SO! Four years since we started, first time the founders have met and can we please celebrate 18%? I remember the joy of achieving 16% the wait to get to 17% and a we have had a very long pregnancy but we're expecting 18% very soon.

If anyone if thinking of creating a virtual or remote in-person events then I have promised to get a cake! At the mo I only need four of five slices but love to buy a big one with "Four Years and 18%" written on it Victuallers (talk) 10:22, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

On Friday, May 17th, we'll be at UCI. I'm hopeful we can do another event on Saturday, May 18th, in Los Angeles, and yes, there will be more cake! Any ideas? --Rosiestep (talk) 03:50, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
Hoping I can join in the festivities in Irvine, but an LA-on-Saturday event might work even better for me, so keep us posted on that. Also maybe loop in Wikimedians of Los Angeles? There's also a San Diego user group. Penny Richards (talk) 15:40, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
I look forward to your celebrations in Los Angeles but the way things are going at the moment (with coverage of the backlog of ungendered Wikidata entries), I don't think it's realistic to expect the WHGI stats to reach 18% in May. Unless of course we introduce some special incentives for creating more women's biographies, maybe by writing more stubs based on Wikidata entries. We should perhaps also target 18 July when it will be exactly four years since Rosie made the first entry for the Women in Red wikiproject (initially Project XX).--Ipigott (talk) 12:38, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
It took us about 10 months to add 0.3% (26 March 2018 - 7 January 2019). Factoring in the backlog issue, we need to add another 0.3% or thereabouts to get to 18%. December is more likely, I'm afraid. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:28, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
As Victuallerss and I will be in LA on Saturday-Sunday, May 18-19, it would be lovely if we could attend a Wikimedians of Los Angeles event. I'll reach out to some of their organizers via another channel. Thanks, for the suggestion, Penny Richards. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:47, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Current romantic fiction

If an Australian author's modern romantic fiction novels get translated into German, Spanish and umpteen other languages, you'd think you could find some WP:RS about her, wouldn't you? Is anyone out there an expert in modern popular fiction and can find anything about Elizabeth Haran to improve her article? PamD 17:14, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Not really. These days, that sort of book hardly ever gets reviewed in RS, so any coverage is likely to be heavily PR-lead. The translations are indeed a good argument, but I have to say the pageviews aren't impressive. These days AFD for popular culture articles seems populated by a regular death squad largely operating on autopilot, so good luck! Johnbod (talk) 18:32, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

First female Prime Minister of Estonia: Kaja Kallas

Kaja Kallas is due to become the first female Prime Minister of Estonia. However, her article needs significant help. Are there any Estonian or Russian speakers or anyone at all that may be able to assist in improving this article. It has the chance of being featured at "In the News" section of the Main Page.--- Coffeeandcrumbs 06:13, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Coffeeandcrumbs: Thanks for this. I've tidied it up a bit. I'm surprised there is nothing about her earlier relationship with Taavi Veskimägi, once finance minister, and their son Sten. Other relationships have been mentioned in the Estonian popular press. There are also lengthy interviews in Estonian which reveal quite a bit about Kallas' political priorities. Perhaps ExRat would like to help out on this. After all, it is International Women's Day and Kallas is quite an imposing figure.--Ipigott (talk) 11:04, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Ananke Magazine

I am happy to share with you the special, digital edition of Ananke Magazine (www.anankemag.com) published on Mar 7, 2019, celebrating HERstories. The story about me is the story about us, Women in Red, so I am very pleased to see how they used our logo all over the page... the beautiful graphics depicting us. Enjoy. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:45, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

A lot about Women in Red and not much about you, Rosie. Nevertheless, it's an good overview. I see that Ananke is published in Dubai and has many interesting articles about women from the Middle East. It might be useful to see how many of them are notable enough for Wikipedia biographies. Perhaps we should also write an article about Ananke Magazine itself. You can find earlier issues of Ananke here.--Ipigott (talk) 11:47, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

Articles created during UNESCO's Wiki4Women Delhi edit-a-thon getting flagged

Dear team,

We did the #wiki4women edit-a-thon on 8th March with the UNESCO, as most of the editors worked on English Wikipedia their articles are getting deleted and getting flagged as not notable. I request the team to please help us. Outreach Dashboard: https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/courses/UNESCO_India/UNESCO_Wiki4Women_Edit-a-thon_Delhi_(8_March_2019)/home Articles getting deleted by this user: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Zia_Mann

Note: Apologies for writing in a messy way, don't want the articles to get deleted before I wake up next morning in India

Thanks in advance :) -- Sailesh Patnaik (Questions) 20:18, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

I've listed the articles below. Those marked as copyvios are beyond hope, unless there is someone around who wants to rewrite them from scratch. Suggest, if action is taken on any of these, we annotate the list below. --Tagishsimon (talk) 20:59, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
So far, at least five have been speedy-deleted by RHaworth: three as copyvio (Sunita Kamble, Shima Modak, and Kanika Tekriwal) and two as A7, unfortunately without restoring the associated drafts (Kiran Kanoji and Monika Shukla). RHaworth also protected Kanika Tekriwal against any future re-creation. I'm not completely convinced that the A7 cases are notable enough to survive an AfD, but I think these are bad calls for speedy deletion (Kanoji won a medal as a parathlete at a Marathon, and won an award from the United Nations; Shukla is a Humboldt Fellow). Note that per WP:CSD "The criterion does not apply to any article that makes any credible claim of significance or importance even if the claim is not supported by a reliable source or does not qualify on Wikipedia's notability guidelines." So probably the first step is to ask RHaworth to reverse this decision on these two articles. Reversing a copyvio decision is much less likely, however. —David Eppstein (talk) 21:05, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
The three G7s have been draftified. --Tagishsimon (talk) 21:22, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Kanika Tekriwal was also reported as an A7 when I looked. She is a sad example of how repeated cack-handed attempts at an article make it more difficult for a valid article to succeed. I have not protected draft:Kanika Tekriwal so there is a route.
On a separate issue, I view the edits of Zia Mann (talk · contribs) with puzzlement, not to say suspicion: surely no one can create eight articles 2K to 3K bytes long in the space of an hour? What is happening? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:57, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for draftifying the three articles, RHaworth; much appreciated. --Tagishsimon (talk) 22:11, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
RHaworth, my guess is that they had prepared them in advance. I made some improvements to Zia Mann's articles, but did not deal with sourcing. --Rosiestep (talk) 23:51, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
Article on Chinmayi Arun has been proposed for deletion already. It has no references at all. -- Rohini (talk) 17:22, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
It's also largely copied from [2]; that's labeled as CC-BY, so we don't immediately have to delete it, but the copying does require attribution. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:39, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
  • I've created Women Transforming India, as some of these women are recipients of that award. The article could perhaps usefully list all the winners for the three years the award has been in existence - might get back to that tomorrow. PamD 00:12, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

The articles

Hi everyone thanks for working on it. I was curious can we somehow recover the deleted articles and move it to my sandbox. So that I can work on them during my free time. --Sailesh Patnaik (Questions) 17:57, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
Those that were not copyvios, yes - the draft versions are listed, above. Those that were copyvios, no - they need to be redone from scratch. --Tagishsimon (talk) 18:15, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

Carolee Schneemann on ITN

Carolee Schneemann, Visionary Feminist Performance Artist, Dies at 79. Please help improve this page if you have the time. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 23:59, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

Stats for Finnish and Northern Sámi Wikipedias

Last week there was a contest on the Finnish Wikipedia (https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Viikon_kilpailu/Viikon_kilpailu_2019-10) to create articles about women and other people who do not identify as male. It was a success in my opinion, because in the course of a week, 156 new articles were created, very few of which were stubs. Moreover, the percentage of articles about women rose from 18.67% to 18.76% by the end of the week. So out of a total 141,220 articles about humans, 26,499 were about women and 42 were about people whose gender was unknown, trans, muxe, etc. Today I ran the same queries for the Northern Sámi Wikipedia and was pleasantly surprised to find that a whopping 30.43% of biographies are about women! (Granted we only have 506 biographies, but still!) Biographies of all sorts are the subject of the joint monthly competition for the no-, nn-, and se-wikis (https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Konkurranser/M%C3%A5nedens_konkurranse_2019-03), so maybe we'll have to push that up to 50% :) Some good news to start off the day with! -Yupik (talk) 07:45, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

This is great news, Yupik. Your competitive environment is obviously having an impact. Keep up the good work.--Ipigott (talk) 09:03, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

nn:Wikipedia:Wikiprosjekt Kvinner i raudt

Great new... The 21st language version of Women in Red -Norwegian nynorsk- was added to Wikidata today. In this regard, I was thinking it would be good to have a mailing list of all the talkpages of all the language versions of Women in Red separate from our en.wiki list international list, which may not be up to date. And then it would be appropriate (and professional) for us to stay in touch with them with our monthly Invite. Is anyone up for developing the list? --Rosiestep (talk) 14:39, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

Rosiestep: This is good news. We now have both the Norwegian wikis (NO and NN) developing their own versions of Women in Red. As for the mailing list, I think we should be careful not to overload other-language projects with monthly invitations to our WiR events. It might nevertheless be useful to invite active members of related wikiprojects to become members of our EN WiR if they are interested, in this case Trondtr. We should perhaps also be doing more to develop the Meta-based women's user group and provide more information there about our "multilingual" presence.--Ipigott (talk) 08:56, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
I made this suggestion as I think each language version of Women in Red is working very independently, and there might be synergies if the 21 communities knew about the other language events. I think including individual editors on our general Opt In mailing list is fantastic; and that list grows every month. But I think communicating with the various Women in Red language organizations is important, too. I'm not sure if on-wiki is the best way vs. an alternate communication channel. As for announcing the en-wiki Women in Red events on Meta (the WikiWomen User Group talkpage), that is a good idea. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:41, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Cancer research editathon

I've just come across an interesting news item on a successful UK editathon on women in cancer research, once again inspired by Jess Wade.--Ipigott (talk) 11:38, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

Pah! "According to the Wikimedia Foundation, less than 1 in 20 Wikipedia biographies feature women", linked a to a WMF blog giving 16.78%. I've submitted a comment requesting a correction. I used to be a member of the CRUK press team, but standards seem to have slipped considerably. Johnbod (talk) 13:43, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
They've corrected it. Johnbod (talk) 22:53, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Need for more women's biographies promoted in The Scotsman

More encouragement from Ewan McAndrew, Siobhan O’Connor, Dr Sara Thomas and Dr Alice White in Women scientists being whitewashed from Wikipedia.--Ipigott (talk) 08:28, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

"Women in Climate" Editathon - Exeter (UK) - 12 April

Moira Paul (talk) 17:19, 12 March 2019 (UTC)I came across a wiki editathon on Eventbrite at the University of Exeter, focusing on Women in Climate. The organiser is happy for me to post it here, and it is open to non-uni people as well as students and staff. Link to editathon on eventbrite

I've booked a slot so I can learn more about starting pages rather than just editing them.

Rosie on Europeana

Rosiestep presents her background and aspirations in some detail on Europeana, a site I highly recommend for those interested in Europe's cultural heritage. As a knighted Serbian, Rosie obviously fits in nicely.--Ipigott (talk) 20:01, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Requesting urgent help

Hi,

Just a while ago I completed my second article on Wikipedia namely Aurat_March - a Women's Day related article. while I was amidst to make correction and review request on various Wikipedia women projects. Some one has placed speedy deletion notice on the article for perceived copyright issue.

While most of the places I have tried to write in my own language, some of the third person statements reported by news portals may still need little corrections. While personally I do not think that is a serious copyright issue which can not be dealt with little more paraphrasing. But frankly I do not know how to deal with situation. Please help me either in necessary update or help me in transferring it to my sandbox page.

Bookku (talk) 13:21, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

Drafts for women in tabletop RPGs

I have a few articles that I moved to draft space to work on them, and was wondering if anyone can help me find sources to improve them. BOZ (talk) 23:25, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Caryn Marooney

There is a discussion on merging this article into Facebook. It certainly looks to me as if the biography of such a prominent business executive deserves to be maintained in its own right.--Ipigott (talk) 08:20, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

Karen Uhlenbeck wins the Abel Prize

This article has the opportunity to appear at ITN today. Please help improve the article. We need to expand the Research section to explain why she won the Abel Prize. Please help! --- Coffeeandcrumbs 18:56, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

I copied this request to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics (where I think it is more likely to find editors who understand this material well enough to carry out the expansion) and added a little more on it myself from the new Quanta article about her. —David Eppstein (talk) 20:08, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
I've added some details to her work on minimal surfaces and Yang–Mills theory. I'm not an expert in geometric analysis or differential geometry, but hopefully an interested expert may pass through at some time. Hopefully we have enough for ITN though. — MarkH21 (talk) 20:36, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

Lots of AfDs

I don't know whether there's been some change in the software but suddenly today there are huge numbers of new AfDs at both Wikipedia:WikiProject Women/Article alerts (46 new or relisted) and Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Article alerts (66 new or relisted). Most days there are only a handful, I don't think I've ever seen numbers like this before and they aren't the work of any one single deletionist editor! Just to alert anyone who doesn't see these on their watchlist and wants to have a look. PamD 10:22, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks PamD for drawing our attention to all these. There do indeed seem to be quite a few which deserve to be kept.--Ipigott (talk) 12:24, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
@PamD: I think it's because of this recent bug fix, which made all AfDs on the women delsort list show up in the alerts (as intended). So thanks to Hellknowz! – Joe (talk) 20:33, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
Yep. I totally ballsed the delsort logic before, so it should now grab all the pages from there (which means including the ones not tagged with banners). Today's report just happened to post all the "new" ones. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 21:04, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

Spanish women in the Civil War

Hi. I am trying to work on a series of articles about Spanish women in the Spanish Civil War so I can more easily identify more notable women where articles can be written, and, because unlike some wars (See World War II), women's involvement in this war is almost non-existent. It also seems very important given the upcoming elections, where on both the left and right, the role of women in Spain has become an issue. I am not as familiar with the topic as I would like to be, and I have not really written broad general articles of this sort in quite some time. If anyone can assist in editing articles with me on my user space until the whole series is ready to go, that would be appreciated. (Or is it better to mainspace them even if the whole series is not mainspace ready? Thoughts?) The ones that are feel almost publish ready that could use a second or third look include:

Any assistance appreciated. --LauraHale (talk) 15:24, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi there, Laura, and thanks for making this tremendous effort on women in the Spanish civil war. I see you have already been to a great deal of trouble on all these articles. I have looked at one or two and to me they seem more or less ready for mainspace. Maybe it would be a good idea to wait a day or two for further reaction and possible contibutions to your draft articles. I'm pretty busy today but I'll try to get back to them tomorrow. Great stuff!--Ipigott (talk) 11:56, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for looking at them. I have a footer I want to use, and I worry that if I put it in the main space with lots of redlinks, it will be problematic.Once compiled, I am hoping to get a good list of women without articles. Just hard at times without being an expert, and the topic being tremendously polarizing in a broader context inside Spain. Most of the important scholarship comes from the outside. (Even Spanish librarians recommend me English speaking authors as a consequence.) Beyond that, there are some issues regarding the veracity of information around women that make it hard to trust some sources. The best example of this is on the issue of Milicianas in the Spanish Civil War, and the description of some as prostitutes. There is every reason in many case to label them as such by both sides in the Civil War for people's own ideological reasons, but how true is that? Many of the milicianas themselves disagree with that in their own writing. There is a similar issue when it comes to Communists, with both the right and many on the left disliking them as a result of the purge. How do you balance those sourcing issues when it comes to the actual text and organization? And how much background is needed to cover the topic so people have the proper context for these problems? Babbling but trying to do a good job given that there is no existing framework to kind of build on. --LauraHale (talk) 16:23, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
This topic really interests me, and I think you're doing an excellent job on these articles, LauraHale. IMO, they are ready for mainspace. IMO, redlinks within an article are fine/important; they tell us what's missing. As for balancing the sourcing issues, that's the toughest part. I like using the Notes section of a document (efn template) as a way of describing alternate viewpoints, even if it's just date of birth. Have you started a list of redlinks? Pinging our Librarian in Residence, Megalibrarygirl, who might have some ideas about that... but for sure, I'd like to see a link for the "redlist" here. Thanks for your efforts with this, Laura; I know this is a broad and difficult topic. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:48, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
@LauraHale: I have a contact that may be able to help identify sources in Spanish to help. I'll see if he has any useful information! Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:41, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
As a Spanish speaker and someone who became familiar with recent Spanish history during extended stays in central Spain in the 1960s, I am not at all surprised at the difficulties Laura is experiencing in finding reliable sources for these articles. In the Franco era, it was almost a criminal act to give accounts of the successes of the Communists, while actual publication was forbidden. That is why the history of the civil war has been very warped. Only recently, with for example discussion of the removal of Franco's remains from the Valle de los Caidos, are we entering a period in which the merits of each side can be openly discussed. I think Rosie has made an excellent suggestion in regard to notes. SusunW has made very good use of them in her own articles. I hope to be able to help further with Laura's articles when I have more time over the next few days.--Ipigott (talk) 18:27, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
There is a reference to Clara Campoamor in one article. A source says that a militiawoman was responding to Clara Campoamor about her calling them prostitutes. The only reference I could find was in a feminist thesis. I couldn't find more sources than that one that I would consider terribly reliable, so I went to a university library to ask for assistance on this. They asked me if I was reading Nationalist or Republican sources, and it really appears to matter little in the specific context but elsewhere it is a huge issue. I'm waiting for a researcher with privileges to get me access to some things at the National Library of Spain to see if I can actually resolve that one. But Spanish writers are ones that academics, outside of historical memory ones, are not preferred. They are viewed as way more intrinsically biased than outsiders. Hence, I am relying more on English sources than I would otherwise when writing about Spanish themed topics. Then backing that up with Spanish sources to help fill in major holes. Working pretty well so far.
Might try footnotes if I find more contradictory narratives. (I've just been warned by two Spanish feminist to be careful about writing in the language of the oppressor as taking babies away from mothers because the state worries about communist indoctrination is not "their children were handed over for adoption" but "the state kidnapped their children." And barring any evidence of the prostitution, it is more a slander against than it is a fact about these women. Stolen baby issue is much more in the news because of recent court cases. But how do you neutrally word any of that without making women lose all appearance of agency? It is much easier to do that in a biography than in a broad topical article, even if the article focuses on a narrow subset of a topic.)
Will try to mainspace them next week or so as I know I have some major typo issues in a few. I also completely drop words sometimes. (Not on purpose but writing just gets away from me.) Once done, I can work on a list of red linked women. Thanks again for feedback. --LauraHale (talk) 21:58, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Mainspaced them yesterday. Just wanted to drop a comment and say thank you very much to @Ipigott: for all his assistance. :) --LauraHale (talk) 16:15, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

I was very happy to help with all these, Laura. You've really done an amazing job and filled an important gap in Wikipedia's coverage of Spanish history. For those interested in looking at the 19 articles in more detail, they can all be found under Category:Women in the Spanish Civil War.--Ipigott (talk) 16:40, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
  • There is perhaps one other interesting aspect which remains to be covered here: women writers and women fictional characters in connection with the Spanish Civil War. Here are a couple of sources to whet your appetites: [3], [4]. Anyone interested?--Ipigott (talk) 17:25, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
Late to the party (as when am I not?), but I wonder if there might not be something of interest to be mined from Martyrs of the Spanish Civil War as well? There are, as I recall, a number of groups of nuns among the martyrs who have been beatified. I'm not up on my reading about Catholicisim, but I wonder if there's a story to be told about the role of nuns and other women religious in the war. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 18:19, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
Nationalist women have also been sorely neglected, and so more information about them in a women specific history of this period would be useful and worthwhile to have. The biographies about the most famous of these women though are rather well covered on English Wikipedia compared to their Republican peers as there was what was viewed as a highly political move by the Roman Catholic Church to beatify priests and nuns who were murdered. (The whole issue is very political, only marginally less so because these articles are in English.) If I get time, I will try to come back to it. First, I am thinking of doing a similar series about women in Francoist Spain, that is more tightly focused on that period without the huge contextual needs of the Spanish Civil War period. --LauraHale (talk) 13:42, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

Lorina Naci

Hello everyone...

can someone help translate w:fr:Lorina Naci in English ? I actually promised to a Unesco ambassador to take care of it (that lady wrote the article in French back in 2018), but that was before I realized that machine translation is disabled in the Content Translation Tool French -> English... Help ! thanks Anthere (talk)

in exchange, I promise to take care quickly of the translation of a good article you improved recently (drop suggestions please) ;) Anthere (talk)
I've made a start at Lorina Naci ... I'll add more refs later. No charge. Incidently, WiR peeps, The l'Oréal Foundation and UNESCO recognize 15 young women researchers for their outstanding contribution to science. You know what to do. --Tagishsimon (talk) 18:13, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks :) Still, any suggestion of a recently greatly improved article with no French version... I can add to my list ;) Anthere (talk)

RfC on The NeuroGenderings Network

RfC on "debates" section, comments welcome. --The Vintage Feminist (talk) 15:18, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Oei Hui-lan

I took over the abandoned review of Oei Hui-lan a while ago, but the original nominator no longer appears active. If someone from this wikiprojet wishes to respond to my comments at Talk:Oei Hui-lan/GA1 that would be great. I will probably close it as a fail if no one responds in a week or so. AIRcorn (talk) 18:25, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

Aircorn: It's difficult to respond to comments without some knowledge of the background. Perhaps Clara dari Semarang can respond. If not, it might be useful to post this message on the talk page of Wikipedia:Women in Green where the focus is on improving biographies up to GA or higher. It would be a pity if the GA promotion were to fail when the article seems so close to making the grade.--Ipigott (talk) 08:37, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
I understand. It is frustrating to take a review to this stage and then not get a response. It isn't really Clara's fault, the delays in getting GA nominations through are bad enough at the best of times, let alone when they get abandoned by the reviewer (it is nearly a year since she nominated it). I don't really think it will take much work, a lot is just copy editing although there is probably some source digging required to clarify some things. I didn't know about Women in Green so will drop a line there. AIRcorn (talk) 08:43, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
Aircorn: After discovering that all those involved in writing the article are no longer active, I have tried to do what I can with your outstanding queries. Unfortunately, I was not always able to access the resources quoted in the article. As a result, I have not been able to check some the facts in question. If you think further work is required on any of these, it might be possible to alert Clara dari Semarang by email and ask her to double-check the changes made and look into any issues still requiring attention. Nevertheless, it seems to me that the article has now reached GA quality. Thank you for devoting your time and effort to reviving the review process.--Ipigott (talk) 11:22, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
No thank you. I will have another look through now. AIRcorn (talk) 19:49, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
Aircorn: I'm glad to see the article has now made the grade. Thanks for the efforts you put into the review.--Ipigott (talk) 08:06, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

What are some good overviews about the gender gap on Wikipedia and more widely?

Hi all

I'm putting together something for the International Women's Day events we ran and I'd really like to include some information to provide an overview of the gender gap on Wikipedia and more widely. Can someone suggest some things I could link to? Blog posts, academic sources etc are all fine. Also any nice graphs we could use.

Thanks

John Cummings (talk) 10:38, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

John Cummings: There's lots to choose from. Here are a few for starters:
There are also a number of interesting articles listed under Press on our About us page. Hope this helps. Please share your findings with us when you've completed your work on this.--Ipigott (talk) 08:27, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
Perfect, thanks very much @Ipigott:. John Cummings (talk) 10:36, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

FP report

Well! I know I missed a bunch, and I'm going to have to hit the archives and sort out our Showcase sometime, so, just... skipping ahead to the more recent stuff...

I'm sure we had a really excellent Helen Keller image that passed a bit ago. I will need to update the showcase, really. But, just the stuff still on the page...

The famous image of Emmeline Pankhurst's arrest failed to pass, probably for good reason: It was not an amazing reproduction. My attempts to fix the criticisms of a Shirley Temple image failed to get it to pass, but made me feel better. You'll understand that comment better if you click through.

La Esmeralda, the fourth and, sadly, last opera of Louise Bertin, probably the biggest female name in French opera of the 19th century, is getting some recognition as part of our Francophone push. That's meant to close later today, and is passing, so... probably have that soon. If anyone knows of images for her Le loup-garou, do let me know, although I may sort that one out myself by performing it.

Yann did a really nice job with a... very, very early twentieth century (it's like every popular photography trick of that period in one image!) photograph of Anne Dallas Dudley, which is passing, which fits in nicely with our suffragette push.

Minne Maddern Fiske is caught up in the confusion of too many alts. My fault. It might pass, but it's more likely to need a renomination. Still, It will pass. ETA: It's passing now, though. This one's also by the prominent female photographer Zaida Ben-Yusuf.

Finally, another Francophone woman; Lucy Arbell in Massenet's Thérèse. That's the newest FP, so not much voting yet, but it's one of the most beautiful images I've found in a while, so I'm hopeful. ETA: Four supports already, probably going to pass. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 6.4% of all FPs 03:18, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

As usual, this is meant to keep the project updated on the goings on at FP. It should not under any circumstances be used as a voting guide, that would turn this into a canvassing job, and, if that happens, I have to stop reporting.

Still, I think there's a fair number of things to like in the current crop of images, and a lot of them are passing, which I think is good for the project. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 6.4% of all FPs 14:45, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

Les Modes

Paulette del Baye, from Les Modes

Has anyone ever heard of this magazine? It's a fashion magazine. Gallica has a lot of it searchable. And when it's good... it's amazing. https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k6538684g/f24.item.r=Paulette%20del%20Baye https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k5807424w/f50.item.r=Paulette%20del%20Baye https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k58074029/f20.item.r=Paulette%20del%20Baye.zoom - It might be worth poking around the many, many issues on Gallica, and figuring out which of the colour ones we want. We'll have to watch copyright, but, for example, the Paulette del Baye one that led me to it is by Paul Boyer - who's definitely out of copyright, and anything before 1923 can be uploaded here - not Commons - as {{PD-1923-abroad}}. There's a trick to getting images from Gallica I can teach anyone in five minutes. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 6.4% of all FPs 07:14, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

My mistake. Clicking through to the article from Paul Boyer - a disambiguation page - corrected that to "definitely in copyright in France Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 6.4% of all FPs 07:28, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
Oooh, thank you, that's a nice new image for Paulette del Baye! I know the image I started the article with wasn't great, was hoping it would be replaced with something better, et voila! - Penny Richards (talk) 00:08, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

UCI Wikidata list

I am trying to create a Wikidata list for an upcoming event at University of California, Irvine. I created this Wikidata list by following the example of this (MIT) Wikidata list created by Gamaliel. But I didn't do something right because what I created is not generating a list. Help. Thanks. --Rosiestep (talk) 00:16, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

I think the Listeria engine is unwell right now. WiR redlists get the same outcome - "There was an error running the query []". The code of your new list looks fine. --Tagishsimon (talk) 00:32, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for looking at it, Tagishsimon. I really appreciate it! --Rosiestep (talk) 07:05, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
Fixed. --Tagishsimon (talk) 19:45, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
Oh, hey, that's where I work! Fridays are not days of much free time for me but is there anything I can do to help? —David Eppstein (talk) 20:40, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
Wow, David Eppstein, I didn't know that. Would be so happy to meet you! It would be great if you can come by, even for a little bit, as there will be newbies galore and not a lot of veteran editors besides Victuallers and me. Also hoping that Alafarge can make it. Email me if you wish and I'll fill you in on stuff. --Rosiestep (talk) 01:03, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
(Thanks Simon!) This looks like a great event with some people I'm looking forward to meeting. Never knew David Eppstein was at UCI! Maybe you can help with unlocking images? We have a few UK universities who are beginning to question why they write "all rights reserved" over everything and including their staff profiles. Has anyone tried this at UCI? Victuallers (talk) 13:00, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

How to get a clean spreadsheet of number of female/male/non binary articles per Wikipedia from WHGI

Hi all

I'm trying to create a nice graph of female/male/non binary percentages for a blog post, but I'm getting a bit stuck. I downloaded what I thought was the right dataset made a graph from WHGI however I can see several languages are missing (e.g Welsh), it includes other Wikiprojects and also the labels are the technical codes, not the names of the languages. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks

John Cummings (talk) 13:20, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

John Cummings: I think if you explore the pages of the WDCM_BiasesDashboard you will find what you are looking for.--Ipigott (talk) 10:35, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks very much @Ipigott:. John Cummings (talk) 11:00, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

I give up

If anyone wants to try to save this, please feel free. This DYK has been ongoing for almost six months now and nothing seems to budge it either way. GMGtalk 21:48, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Dancers redlink list

Before April's editathon I tried to add the sitelinks column to the dancers redlist by copying the relevant sections from the choreographer redlist, but it says that SPARQL doesn't recognize the variable I added. I can't figure out how to make it work. Can someone take a look? Thanks. Mcampany (talk) 22:19, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Fixed, probably. That was quite old SPARQL; the problem was with the (unnecessary) group by. I've replaced it all with our contemporary SPARQL approach; currently waiting for the Listeria engine to do its stuff. --Tagishsimon (talk) 22:29, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
Great! I was wondering why the two pages looked so different; now it all makes sense. Thank you so much! Mcampany (talk) 23:32, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Banners and Wikidata

Its someone's birthday - Can anyone make this update?

As some may know we have a daily banner on our Twitter account that has grown like topsy. Wikidata has given me a chance to sort this out and there is going to be a banner stored on each day. I have wanted to reuse this work so that could have a new banner each day on say our project pages but don't want to create "another" bit of work to do. I quickly wrote this query to show the banners I have added to Wikidata. Is there anyone out there who can modify this so that it neatly displays "today's" banner in a way that it could be seamlessly added to a wiki page? Be thrilled if you could. Victuallers (talk) 17:22, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

This query selects the appropriate row for today's date. Does that help? --Tagishsimon (talk) 19:11, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
So one approach would be to put that in a Listeria list, adjust the |thumb=800 parameter to whatever size (width in pixels) you wanted, &c. Example here. --Tagishsimon (talk) 23:43, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Toni Romiti

I just created c:Category:Toni Romiti. There appears to be no English Wikipedia article, although there does appear to be quite a few sources available, in case anyone is interested in popular music and rap as a subject area. GMGtalk 17:07, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

@GreenMeansGo: I went through and created a Wikidata item for her at Toni Romiti (Q62502731) and linked it to the Commons category. William Graham talk 17:51, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

April 2019 at Women in Red

April 2019, Volume 5, Issue 4, Numbers 107, 108, 114, 115, 116, 117


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WikiData has got it wrong

Yvette Borup Andrews has got the wrong dates in WikiData - looks as if they relied on Stuttgart Database of Scientific Illustrators 1450–1950, but that the person entering her data there added her husband's birth and death dates instead of her own! Hers are reliably sourced to the usually unreliable Findagrave as there's an image of her death certificate. Does anyone here know how to correct the WikiData record? I'm sending an email to the Stuttgart DSI to tell them they've got it wrong. PamD 22:34, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

The item can be found here: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q50576466 where you can scroll down and edit the fields. If you need help I can change them for you if you want. Redalert2fan (talk) 22:41, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
The thing to do with sourced but incorrect data in wikidata is to mark it as deprecated, which I've done. I've also merged in duplicate YBA item which had, at least, the correct years or birth & death. I'll amend these to carry the months & days too. --Tagishsimon (talk) 22:45, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, both. PamD 23:21, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
Wow, we know many women take a husband's surname, but they don't usually get his birth and death dates in the deal. ;) Thanks all for tending to this! Penny Richards (talk) 00:23, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

ITRD: Agnès Varda, Francophones needed

As I usually do from time to time, I come to you with a difficult case. Agnès Varda recently died and her article has the opportunity to be featured at ITN. More !votes will not as long as the page needs more citations. Please assist by adding more references. In the words of my friend Gerda Arendt, we need "refs! refs! refs!" Francophones needed.--- Coffeeandcrumbs 23:16, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

LouisAlain, can you help here, perhaps? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:21, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
Coffeeandcrumbs, Gerda Arendt: It looks to me as if the article is now well up to standard for inclusion in ITN. If there's something more specific you need assistance with, please let me know.--Ipigott (talk) 10:01, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
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