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Name of a British honour for foreign civilians having helped British soldiers

Also asked at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history#Name of a British honour for foreign civilians having helped British soldiers.

Hello,

I have seen in several French-language sources the mention of a Médaille de la reconnaissance britannique or anglaise (roughly translates as Medal of British recognition/gratitude/acknowledgment, nothing to do with scouting), awarded to foreign (esp. French and Belgian) civilians who risked their life while giving assistance to British soldiers isolated behind enemy lines.

This book (bottom of page and top of next page) gives the name of several WWI recipients, with circumstances leading to the award (I can translate abstracts if needed). Senator and Mayor of Poitiers fr:Jacques Masteau, according to his Senate website biography, was also "Médaillé de la Reconnaissance anglaise", although probably for WWII actions.

A picture of the medal is visible here, taken from a Belgian newspaper article stating that it was created by George V in 1922. It seems to be similar in purpose to the Medal of French Gratitude (French: "Médaille de la Reconnaissance française") created in 1917. This search returns the name of several other recipients.

I couldn't find which actual award this refers to. Any idea ? Place Clichy (talk) 15:33, 19 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Answered here by Nthep : it is the Allied Subjects' Medal. Place Clichy (talk) 09:45, 22 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Merging of Italian main pages?

Hello everyone. I recently stumbled into this project and wanted to contribute to Italian pages, yet, it seems that for a number of years now, there are two main articles, both describing orders and honours of Italy: Orders, decorations, and medals of Italy, which has the correct name but little content, and List of Italian orders of chivalry, which has great content but a non-harmonised name. A merge banner was put there a while ago but there seems to be no discussion nor watchers in both articles' talk pages, so this is why I write here. What do you think should be done? As it stands right now it is quite hard to know what to contribute to. Thank you for reading, ---roroke (talk) 10:59, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

After having seen that the merge banner has been placed in December 2017 and left uncontested since then, I decided to go ahead with the merger. The articled which has been merged was a featured list, though, and the destination a start-class article. Is there a chance it could be reassessed? Sorry, I don't really know how assessing works. ---roroke (talk) 05:44, 11 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Updated categories

There was evidently more to update than I first noticed when updating the name of this WikiProject in uniformity per WP:CONSISTENCY. Thanks to Fayenatic london for helping to carry it out! Chicbyaccident (talk) 10:34, 4 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

And as of today, the assessment stats are being updated by the bot – good. – Fayenatic London 22:24, 6 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

George Cross Disambiguation

See Talk:Douglas Ford (GC)#Requested move 5 July 2018 and Talk:Walter Anderson (GC)#Requested move 11 July 2018. Should we disambiguate people only notable for winning certain high awards by those awards? This definitely affects Category:Recipients of the George Cross, Category:Recipients of the Victoria Cross and Category:Recipients of the Medal of Honor, all of which use this form of disambiguation. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:49, 12 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Project Message board

Just a small observation of a newcomer in the project but over half of the main page of the project is filled by the message board. I personally find it pretty unappealing, both from visuals and actual functionality, as first impression of the project that you see when you scroll down (and down, and down, and even further down). Much of it is more like a years-old contributions or annoucement list and the parts where there is actual conversation is what could be discussed here on the talk page instead (and with a much smarter design and structure I might add). I´m not sure who is in charge of maintaining that page (@Fdutil:?) and of course it is a purely subjective point of view. But maybe it should be considered to either completely move that massage board from the main page into the talk page`s archive or to turn it into a trimmed and regularly updated kind of annoucement board. And as I´m on the talk's archive already, somehow the template above doesn´t show the pages and show a single redlink instead; apparently because medal is used both with and without capital letter within the page names. ...GELongstreet (talk) 19:40, 3 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Another newcomer here, and I absolutely agree. It might be moved to a subpage. ---roroke (talk) 10:52, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Seems odd to me, too. Moreover, the inconsistent (and banned! ambiguous DD/MM/[YY]YY) date format. It's not exactly a talk page – any objection to my editing the dates for consistency? "DayNum MonthName Year" (i.e. 7 December 1941) seems most consistent with the topic area, which is largely military, though resulting in a ragged appearance unless turned into a table. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 19:13, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
 Done See WT:WikiProject Orders, Decorations, and Medals/Archive 6#Message board archive. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 22:20, 5 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. And suddenly the project page looks surprisingly like a project page. ...GELongstreet (talk) 22:26, 5 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Post-nominals for honorary Officers/Members of the Order of the British Empire

I've noted that some pages about honorary Officers/Members of the Order of the British Empire have post-nominals (e.g. Gillian Anderson, Pierce Brosnan. Beppe Severgnini and so on). Is it correct to write Gillian Anderson, OBE, even if she is not a British subject?--Carnby (talk) 10:50, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Carnby, I just had an edit conflict raising the same point! MilborneOne (talk) 10:53, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Good! ;-)--Carnby (talk) 10:55, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Carnby: Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Biography § Formatting post-nominals says to append , OBE only in the lede and appropriate place in the Infobox. I don't see an exception related to country of citizenship. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 01:26, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it's entirely correct to use the postnominal. But not a title such as "Sir" or "Dame", which is not used by honorary recipients. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:59, 4 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Ribbon devices

I've worked on a fix to the rendered of devices on ribbons by {{Ribbon devices}}, discussed at Template talk:Ribbon devices § Navy/USMC alignment. Comments welcome. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 02:49, 5 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Message board archive

Per this section, the content of the Message board section of the project page has been reformatted for consistency and moved here. New messages shoud be posted here on the talk page (see H:TP for help). —[AlanM1(talk)]— 22:18, 5 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Date Description
10 Dec 2006 Project started
17 Dec 2006 National sub-categories of Category:Orders and decorations group-nominated for renaming to new, uniform naming style - Orders, decorations, and medals of XXX.
1 Jan 2007 National sub-category rename completed.
10 Jan 2007 Related discussion of supercat structures in which "Orders, decorations, and medals of XXX" exists is Category:Awards and Category:Prizes, and includes Category:Award winners, Category:Prize winners, and Category:Recipients of formal honors at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2007 January 9#Prize winners and Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2007 January 9#Prizes.
12 Feb 2007 Proposed merger of Category:Recipients of the Silver Star and Category:Recipients of the Silver Star medal on CFD. See debate.
22 Feb 2007 Category:Orders and decorations, this topic's supercategory, has been nominated for renaming on WP:CFD. It is proposed that this category be renamed to Category:Orders, decorations, and medals, per the example of the national sub-categories. Debate can be found here.
15 Mar 2007 proposed merge of Tomb of the Unknown Soldier Guard Identification Badge into Tomb of the Unknowns. Discussion can be found here.closed here
24 Jun 2007 Category:Gallantry Medals and Category:Military cross decorations nominated for deletion.
26 Jun 2007 Victoria Cross nominated for Featured Article status. Please see nomination here.
13 Jul 2007 The Victoria Cross series of article relating to the separate awards are now up for Featured Topic status. Please see the nomination here.on hold
19 Jul 2007 Victoria Cross for New Zealand nominated for Featured Article status. Please see nomination here.
19 Jul 2007 The List of Victoria Crosses by School has been nominated for deletion. Th nomination can be seen here.
26 Aug 2007 Category:Orders, decorations, and medals of the German Democratic Republic has been proposed for renaming to Category:Orders, decorations, and medals of East Germany. The nomination can be seen here.
7 Sep 2007 The British South Africa Company Medal article is featured on today's Main Page's Did you know? section
20 Sep 2007 Victoria Cross (Canada) nominated for featured article status. Please see the nomination here.
7 Oct 2007 Victoria Cross for Australia nominated for WP:FA:featured article status. Please see the nomination here.
15 Oct 2007 The Marine Corps Brevet Medal was featured on the DYK section of the home page.--Kumioko 20:37, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
30 Jan 2008 The article List of Knight's Cross recipients was rated as "featured list". MisterBee1966 (talk) 11:15, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
24 Aug 2008 There is a reference to the (British) Miltary Cross as a 'third-level' award. There is nowhere which seems to define what a first-, second-, third- ot other- level decoaration might be in each of the probably 300+ countries which make such miltary awards. Follow-up question - are there any countries without a military force OR who do not make military awards. Salisbury-99 (talk) 11:36, 24 August 2008 (UTC) About 25 or so years ago, some British writers began using ‘level’ to describe ‘rank’ or ‘degree’ of award subsets. Thus for operational gallantry awards for officers, the first ‘level’ was the VC, the second ‘level’ was the MC and the third ‘level’ was the MID. In the 1994 changes, officers and other ranks became eligible for all gallantry awards, the first ‘level’ was the VC, the second ‘level’ was the CGC, the MC was downgraded from second ‘level’ officer’s award to all ranks third ‘level’ and the MID was the fourth Level. There is no support for the use of the words ‘level’ or 'rank' or 'degree' in either the individual warrants for these awards or in the Order of Wear. It may have value in describing a subset but the Wikipedia chart for British ODMs lists the BEM as ‘level’ 3B. Since GBE, KBE and DBE, CBE, OBE, MBE are higher than the BEM I would have thought the BEM was sixth level. Anthony Staunton (talk) 14:55, 15 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • These "levels" only apply to gallantry decorations. When it was awarded for non-combat gallantry, the BEM counted as a third-level decoration (after the GC and GM), as did the CBE, OBE and MBE (since which one you got was determined by your rank alone and not by the level of gallantry involved). All were later replaced by the QGM. Also, the MC was never a second-level decoration, since in practice (before the introduction of the CGC) the DSO could be awarded for gallantry (and frequently was, despite received wisdom to the contrary). -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:37, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • My answer was that it was a recent innovation not supported by either warrants or the Order of Wear. Saying it only applies to gallantry decorations eliminates the DSO which was for distinguished leadership in action to senior commanders. It is not a gallantry award although 20% of DSOs were awarded to junior officers for gallantry. Putting the DSO and MC as separate and distinct levels suggest a precision that never existed. Anthony Staunton (talk) 15:42, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
      • I quite agree it's not supported by anything official. However, it is certainly not true that the DSO was not in practice used as a gallantry award, as you say yourself. It was quite clearly used as the officers' equivalent of the DCM/CGM, therefore putting its award for gallantry at a level between the VC and the DSC/MC/DFC. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:05, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
        • The DSO is a prime example of why there is no consensus on levels. I respect the view of those who equate the DSO for officers with the DCM/CGM for other ranks but that it is not my view. We do agree in answer to the original question that ‘it's not supported by anything official’. Anthony Staunton (talk) 01:05, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
2 Oct 2008 I have been adding infoboxes to many of the articles within the scope oft his Wikiproject. Scapler (talk) 11:28, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
20 Jul 2009 New Public Domain attribution template: {{ACMH}} for the US Army Center of Military History (useful for US MOH citation articles, among others), relevant discussion is at [[WT:MILHIST#New Public Domain attribution template: {{ACMH}} for the US Army Center of Military History]]. Best, MLauba (talk) 16:27, 20 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
31 Mar 2010 My initial project to update Awards and decorations of the Russian Federation quickly got a bit our of hand with nearly 500 items being listed with pictures and institution dates (decrees or orders) and award prerequisites. Info was pouring in and I decided to limit this site to state awards only. All awards of the various ministries and departments are slowly being moved to their own pages. I have already moved the following to their own individual pages Awards and Emblems of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation (incredible number of awards will require months to complete), Awards of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia (still much missing data) and Awards of the Ministry for Emergency Situations of Russia (99% complete). I will keep you updated on future changes. Fdutil (talk) 15:14, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
4 Jun 2010 Awards and decorations of the British military - Similar format and layout to the USA page. Done - see Military awards and decorations of the United Kingdom. Still some work required to obtain ribbon images and create pages for linked medals. I originally set it up based on the US layout, per the original request, but I don't like this layout as it makes it difficult to do update edits. I am going to change it to vertical in line and add some columns to allow for establishment date and eligibility period (currently this info is wrapping around which is untidy). Done (05/06/10) AusTerrapin (talk) 00:49, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
4 Jun 2010 I am proposing a modification to the project banner to provide for page categorisation similar to other project banners. See talk page for more details. AusTerrapin (talk) 01:04, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
27 Dec 2010 I've started filling the gaps on the different sections/countries, after I'll start to add more info from my database to the articles with poor info. Billybradshaw (talk) 13:11, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
17 Jul 2011 The Royal Canadian Mounted Police Long Service Medal article is featured on today's Main Page's Did you know? section. EricSerge (talk) 02:03, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
18 Jul 2011 The Common Security and Defence Policy Service Medal article is featured on today's Main Page's Did you know? section.
22 Aug 2011 The Department of Defense Medal for Distinguished Public Service article is featured on today's Main Page's Did you know? section.
9 Sep 2011 The Cross of Merit of the Minister of Defence of the Czech Republic article is featured on today's Main Page's Did you know? section.
12 Sep 2011 The Special Service Medal (Canada) article is featured on today's Main Page's Did you know? section. EricSerge (talk) 12:20, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
15 Jan 2012 Upgrades to the following articles featuring many new awards and relevant data:

Awards of the Ministry for Emergency Situations of Russia
Awards of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia
Awards and Emblems of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation
Fdutil (talk) 23:27, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

20 Jan 2012 2 New articles!

Awards of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation
Awards of the Federal Protective Service of the Russian Federation
Fdutil (talk) 17:49, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

30 Jan 2012 Multiple STUBS devellopped into articles:

Order of Alexander Nevsky
Order of Zhukov
Order of Suvorov
Order of Ushakov
Order of Kutuzov
Order of Nakhimov
Order of Courage
Order of Military Merit (Russia)
Order of Honour (Russian Federation)
Order of Friendship
Order of Naval Merit (Russia)
Order of Parental Glory
Order of St. George
Order of St. Andrew
Order of Merit for the Fatherland
Fdutil (talk) 03:41, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2 Feb 2012 Major upgrades to

Cross of St. George
Ribbon of Saint George
Fdutil (talk) 03:12, 3 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

3 Feb 2012 Major upgrade to Medal "For Courage" (Russia)

New article Medal of Suvorov
Fdutil (talk) 01:59, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

4 Feb 2012 Major upgrade to Ushakov Medal

New article Medal of Nesterov
Fdutil (talk) 22:51, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

5 Feb 2012 New articles

Medal of Pushkin
Medal For Life Saving
Fdutil (talk) 19:33, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

12 Feb 2012 New article Medal "For Merit in Space Exploration" Fdutil (talk) 00:30, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
15 Feb 2012 New articles

Medal For Distinction in Protection of the State Borders
Medal For Distinction in Protection of Public Order
Fdutil (talk) 00:15, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

16 Feb 2012 New article Medal "For Work in Agriculture"

Serious upgrade to Defender of Free Russia Medal
Fdutil (talk) 01:50, 17 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

17 Feb 2012 Five new articles!

1:Jubilee Medal "300 Years of the Russian Navy"
2:Medal "In Commemoration of the 850th Anniversary of Moscow"
3:Medal 100 Years of the Trans-Siberian Railway
4:Medal "In Commemoration of the 300th Anniversary of Saint Petersburg"
5:Medal "In Commemoration of the 1000th Anniversary of Kazan"
Fdutil (talk) 02:32, 18 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

18 Feb 2012 New articles =

1:Jubilee Medal "65 Years of Victory in the Great Patriotic War 1941-1945"
2:Jubilee Medal "60 Years of Victory in the Great Patriotic War 1941-1945"
3:Jubilee Medal "50 Years of Victory in the Great Patriotic War 1941-1945"
Fdutil (talk) 17:40, 18 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

19 Feb 2012 New Article! Decoration For Impeccable Service

Developped article from stub/list to actual article Hero of the Russian Federation
Fdutil (talk) 22:36, 19 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

20 Feb 2012 Upgraded & reformatted Pilot-Cosmonaut of the Russian Federation to fall into line with other articles on modern Russian state awards. Fdutil (talk) 03:34, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
21 Feb 2012 New Articles!

1:Honoured Military Pilot of the Russian Federation
2:Honoured Military Navigator of the Russian Federation
3:Honoured Military Pilot of the USSR
4:Honoured Military Navigator of the USSR
Fdutil (talk) 22:45, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

23 Feb 2012 New Articles

1: Honoured Test Pilot of the USSR
2: Honoured Test Navigator of the USSR
Fdutil (talk) 02:40, 24 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

24 Feb 2012 New articles:

1: Honoured Pilot of the USSR
2: Honoured Navigator of the USSR
Fdutil (talk) 04:31, 25 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

25 Feb 2012 Upgraded and reformatted:

1:Hero of Socialist Labour
2:Mother Heroine
3:Order of Glory
- New article Honoured Inventor of the USSR
Fdutil (talk) 15:54, 25 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

26 Feb 2012 New articles:

1: Medal "For Distinction in Military Service"
2: Medal "For Strengthening Military Cooperation"
Fdutil (talk) 20:17, 26 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

27 Feb 2012 Upgraded and reformated Order for Service to the Homeland in the Armed Forces of the Soviet Union Fdutil (talk) 01:49, 28 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
28 Feb 2012 Upgraded and reformatted:

1: Medal "In Commemoration of the 800th Anniversary of Moscow"
2: Medal "In Commemoration of the 250th Anniversary of Leningrad"
and a new article Medal "In Commemoration of the 1500th Anniversary of Kiev"
Fdutil (talk) 02:02, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

29 Feb 2012 1: Stub to article - Jubilee Medal "50 Years of the Soviet Militia"

2: New article - Jubilee Medal "Twenty Years of Victory in the Great Patriotic War 1941-1945"
3: New article - Jubilee Medal "Thirty Years of Victory in the Great Patriotic War 1941-1945"
Fdutil (talk) 03:44, 1 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

1 Mar 2012 New articles:

1: Jubilee Medal "Forty Years of Victory in the Great Patriotic War 1941-1945"
2: Medal "Veteran of the Armed Forces of the USSR"
3: Jubilee Medal "XX Years of the Workers' and Peasants' Red Army"
4: Jubilee Medal "30 Years of the Soviet Army and Navy"
5: Jubilee Medal "40 Years of the Armed Forces of the USSR"
6: Jubilee Medal "50 Years of the Armed Forces of the USSR"
Fdutil (talk) 23:01, 1 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2 Mar 2012 New Articles:

1: Jubilee Medal "60 Years of the Armed Forces of the USSR"
2: Jubilee Medal "70 Years of the Armed Forces of the USSR"
Fdutil (talk) 03:28, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

3 Mar 2012 New article Jubilee Medal "In Commemoration of the 100th Anniversary since the Birth of Vladimir Il'ich Lenin"

Stub to article = Medal "For the Defence of Leningrad"
Stub to article = Medal "For the Defence of Sevastopol"
Stub to article = Medal "For the Defence of Odessa"
Stub to article = Medal "For the Defence of Stalingrad"
Fdutil (talk) 18:15, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

4 Mar 2012 Stub to article = Medal "For the Defence of Moscow"

New article = Medal "For the Defence of the Caucasus"
Fdutil (talk) 15:50, 4 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

5 Mar 2012 New articles

1: Medal "For the Defence of the Soviet Transarctic"
2: Medal "For the Defence of Kiev"
Fdutil (talk) 22:58, 5 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

6 Mar 2012 New article: Medal "For the Victory over Japan"Fdutil (talk) 22:22, 7 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
7 Mar 2012 New articles:

1: Medal "For the Capture of Berlin"
2: Medal "For the Capture of Vienna"
3: Medal "For the Capture of Königsberg"
4: Medal "For the Capture of Budapest"
Fdutil (talk) 22:22, 7 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

8 Mar 2012 New articles & upgrades:

1: Medal "For the Liberation of Prague"
2: Medal "For the Liberation of Warsaw"
3: Medal "For the Liberation of Belgrade"
4: Medal "For the Victory over Germany in the Great Patriotic War 1941–1945"
Fdutil (talk) 04:02, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

11 Mar 2012 New article Medal "For Impeccable Service" Fdutil (talk) 00:21, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
23 Mar 2012 New article Nakhimov Medal Fdutil (talk) 02:13, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
24 Mar 2012 Week of 24 to 31 March 2012, upgraded:

1:Order of the Red Banner
2:Order of the Red Star
3:Jubilee Medal "In Commemoration of the 100th Anniversary since the Birth of Vladimir Il'ich Lenin"
4:Jubilee Medal "Forty Years of Victory in the Great Patriotic War 1941-1945"
5:Jubilee Medal "Thirty Years of Victory in the Great Patriotic War 1941-1945"
6:Jubilee Medal "Twenty Years of Victory in the Great Patriotic War 1941-1945"
Fdutil (talk) 18:25, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2 Apr 2012 Upgrade Medal "For Valiant Labour in the Great Patriotic War 1941-1945" Fdutil (talk) 02:29, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
7 Apr 2012 Upgraded Medal "For Distinction in Guarding the State Border of the USSR" from STUB to Article

Created Medal "Partisan of the Patriotic War"
Also transferred a few hundred awards from Russian and Ukrainian articles to related English language articles with proper links to each individual awards' article.
Fdutil (talk) 03:24, 8 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

8 Apr 2012 New article Medal "For Labour Valour" Fdutil (talk) 04:49, 9 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
9 Apr 2012 New article Medal "For Distinguished Labour" Fdutil (talk) 02:33, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
20 Apr 2012 New article Medal "For the Development of Virgin Lands"
Added multiple new medals to Awards of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation

Fdutil (talk) 02:52, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

21 Apr 2012 New article Medal "For Construction of the Baikal-Amur Railway"
Upgrade to Medal "Veteran of Labour"
Transferred a few hundred awards from Russian and Ukrainian articles to related English language articles with proper links to each individual awards' article.

Fdutil (talk) 18:26, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

22 Apr 2012 New article Medal "For Courage in a Fire" Fdutil (talk) 23:41, 22 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
24 Apr 2012 New article Medal "For the Restoration of the Donbass Coal Mines" Fdutil (talk) 01:26, 25 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
25 Apr 2012 New article Medal "For the Restoration of the Black Metallurgy Enterprises of the South" Fdutil (talk) 00:48, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Gbawden (talk) 10:54, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

26 Apr 2012 Reformatted the South African medal Nkwe_ya_Selefera with clearer section and layout - this will become a standard layout as i go through the other medals. Comments and input welcomed
Nice work, the article looks really good! Fdutil (talk) 23:57, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
26 Apr 2012 New article Medal "For the Salvation of the Drowning" Fdutil (talk) 23:52, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
27 Apr 2012 New article Medal "For Transforming the Non-Black Earth of the RSFSR" Fdutil (talk) 01:45, 28 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
28 Apr 2012 New article Medal "For the Tapping of the Subsoil and Expansion of the Petrochemical Complex of Western Siberia" Fdutil (talk) 23:39, 28 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
30 Apr 2012 Major upgrade to Order of the Red Banner of Labour Fdutil (talk) 03:00, 1 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone with an interest in South African medals, I would appreciate any help adding to it. Going to be hitting the reference books later Gbawden (talk) 07:50, 7 May 2012 (UTC) 7 May[reply]

21 May 2012 Upgraded and expanded Order of Courage and Order of Nakhimov Fdutil (talk) 19:38, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
22 May 2012 Upgraded and expanded Order of Ushakov Fdutil (talk) 03:06, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
27 May 2012 Cleaned up and expanded the following articles dealing with Belgian awards:
Commemorative Medal for Foreign Operations or Missions
Cross of Honour for Military Service Abroad
Medal of Military Merit (Belgium)
Volunteer Combatant's Medal 1914-1918 Fdutil (talk) 20:57, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
28 May 2012 Cleaned up and expanded the following articles dealing with Belgian awards:
Military Decoration (Belgium)
Croix de guerre (Belgium) Fdutil (talk) 01:57, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
31 May 2012 Created article Yser Medal Fdutil (talk) 02:28, 1 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
3 Jun 2012 Created List of Orders, Decorations and Medals of the Kingdom of Belgium Fdutil (talk) 04:28, 3 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
9 Jun 2012 Expanded Médaille de la Défense nationaleFdutil (talk) 17:28, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
9 Jun 2012 Expanded Médaille de l'Aéronautique Fdutil (talk) 22:47, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
10 Jun 2012 Expanded Médaille militaire Fdutil (talk) 03:26, 10 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
11 Jun 2012 Expanded Ordre national du Mérite and Ordre de la Libération Fdutil (talk) 01:56, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
12 Jun 2012 Expanded article Croix de guerre des théâtres d'opérations extérieures Fdutil (talk) 22:49, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
29 Jun 2012 Expanded article Insigne des blessés militaires, started article Médaille d'Afrique du Nord Fdutil (talk) 22:27, 29 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
30 Jun 2012 Expanded article Médaille des Évadés Fdutil (talk) 01:25, 1 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
2 Sep 2012 Recap of sporadic work from 1 June 2012 to date on Belgian ODMs
Created article 1914-1917 African Campaigns Commemorative Medal
Created article Yser Medal
Expanded article Volunteer Combatant's Medal 1914-1918
Created article 1914-1918 Commemorative War Medal
Created article Deportees' Cross 1914-1918
Expanded article King Albert Medal
Created article Inter-Allied Victory Medal 1914-1918 (Belgium)
Created article Civilian Disobedience Medal
Created article Political Prisoner's Cross 1940-1945
Expanded article Commemorative Medal of the War 1940-1945
Expanded article Civic Decoration (Belgium)
Created article Centenary of National Independence Commemorative Medal
Created a dozen stubs on Belgian ODMs soon to be expanded

Fdutil (talk) 16:38, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

3 Sep 2012 Expanded stub into article 1940-1945 Military Combatant's Medal
Expanded stub into article Maritime Medal 1940-1945
Expanded stub into article Volunteer's Medal 1940-1945

Fdutil (talk) 16:27, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

4 Sep 2012 Created article Political Prisoner's Medal 1914-1918
Expanded stub into article Commemorative Medal of the Reign of King Albert I

Fdutil (talk) 20:48, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

5 Sep 2012 Expanded stub into article Commemorative Medal of the Reign of King Leopold II

Fdutil (talk) 23:20, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

7 Sep 2012 Expanded stub into article 1870-71 Commemorative Medal

Fdutil (talk) 00:02, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

9 Sep 2012 Seriously expanded Croix de guerre (Belgium)

Fdutil (talk) 01:49, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

10 Sep 2012 Expanded stub into article Fire Cross 1914-1918

Fdutil (talk) 15:55, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

12 Sep 2012 Expanded stub into article Prisoner of War Medal 1940-1945

Fdutil (talk) 04:21, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

13 Sep 2012 Expanded stub into article Medal of the Armed Resistance 1940-1945

Fdutil (talk) 15:34, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

15 Sep 2012 Important expansion of Civic Decoration (Belgium)
Expanded stub into article 1940–1945 Colonial War Effort Medal

Fdutil (talk) 15:41, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

18 Sep 2012 I wikified this article Medals of the Bangladesh Armed Forces. At the moment it is just a list of medals and their ribbons, someone might want to expand it
I have added the WP:ODM banner and stub Gbawden (talk) 08:24, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
22 Sep 2012 Created article 1830 Volunteers' Commemorative Cross
Expanded List of Orders, Decorations and Medals of the Kingdom of Belgium

Fdutil (talk) 03:15, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

23 Sep 2012 Created article Iron Cross (Belgium)

Fdutil (talk) 19:30, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

24 Sep 2012 Created article Commemorative Decoration of the 50th Anniversary of the Creation of the Railroads (Belgium 1834-1884)

Fdutil (talk) 03:26, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

7 Nov 2012 Created article Liège Medal Fdutil (talk) 03:35, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Created article Order of Timor-Leste and Medal of Merit (East Timor) EricSerge (talk) 05:06, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
11 Nov 2012 Created article Queen Elisabeth Medal Fdutil (talk) 21:48, 11 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
15 Nov 2012 Created article Pro Memoria Medal. EricSerge (talk) 12:47, 18 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
17 Nov 2012 Created article Escapees' Cross 1940–1945 Fdutil (talk) 23:29, 17 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Created article Pro Patria Medal (Poland). EricSerge (talk) 12:47, 18 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
19 Nov 2012 Upgraded stub to article 1940–1945 African War Medal
Upgraded stub to article 1940–1945 Colonial War Effort Medal Fdutil (talk) 12:45, 20 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
26 Nov 2012 added Order of the Dragon King to prokects Gbawden (talk) 07:35, 26 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
7 Jan 2013 Suggest article ‘Civil awards and decorations’ be deleted http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Civil_awards_and_decorations#Proposal_to_delete_this_article. Anthony Staunton (talk) 13:35, 7 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
27 Feb 2013 Created article Order of Brilliant Star. Percus (talk) 16:31, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
19 Sep 2013 There are proposals at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2013 September 19 to delete recipient categories, which could have general application. Please add your views. Folks at 137 (talk) 08:03, 19 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
28 Sep 2013 Created article Orient campaign medal Fdutil (talk) 21:54, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
29 Sep 2013 Created article Dardanelles campaign medal Fdutil (talk) 01:54, 29 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Expanded stub into article Syria-Cilicia commemorative medal Fdutil (talk) 17:26, 29 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
3 Oct 2013 Created article Middle East operations commemorative medal (1956) (France) Fdutil (talk) 18:28, 3 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
4 Oct 2013 Expanded stub into article 1939–1945 Commemorative war medal (France)
Expanded stub into article Indochina Campaign commemorative medal Fdutil (talk) 01:53, 4 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
5 Oct 2013 Expanded stub into article French commemorative medal Fdutil (talk) 02:50, 5 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
6 Oct 2013 Expanded stub into article North Africa Security and Order Operations Commemorative Medal Fdutil (talk) 02:47, 6 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Expanded stub into article North Africa medal Fdutil (talk) 15:26, 6 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Expanded stub into article Medal of the Nation's Gratitude Fdutil (talk) 17:09, 7 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Expanded stub into article Commemorative medal for voluntary service in Free France Fdutil (talk) 22:51, 6 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
8 Oct 2013 Expanded stub into article 1943–1944 Italian campaign medal Fdutil (talk) 01:32, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
9 Oct 2013 Expanded stub into article United Nations operations in Korea commemorative medal Fdutil (talk) 01:06, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
10 Oct 2013 Expanded stub into article Medal for civilian prisoners, deportees and hostages of the 1914-1918 Great War Fdutil (talk) 02:28, 11 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
11 Oct 2013 Expanded article Medal for voluntary military service Fdutil (talk) 19:40, 11 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Expanded stub into article 1901 China expedition commemorative medal Fdutil (talk) 02:14, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
12 Oct 2013 Expanded stub into article Morocco commemorative medal (1909) Fdutil (talk) 21:08, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
14 Oct 2013 Expanded stub into article Commemorative medal of the 1870–1871 War Fdutil (talk) 19:29, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
23 Oct 2013 Expanded stub into article Honour medal for firefighters Fdutil (talk) 01:37, 24 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
25 Oct 2013 Expanded stub into article Honour medal for courage and devotion Fdutil (talk) 01:12, 26 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
27 Oct 2013 Expanded stub into article Order of Agricultural Merit Fdutil (talk) 20:56, 27 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
28 Oct 2013 Expanded stub into article Saint Helena Medal Fdutil (talk) 19:35, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
29 Oct 2013 Expanded stub into article Commemorative medal of the Mexico Expedition Fdutil (talk) 21:14, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
31 Oct 2013 Expanded stub into article Resistance Medal Fdutil (talk) 02:04, 1 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
1 Dec 2013 Expanded stub into article Medal of a liberated France Fdutil (talk) 03:33, 2 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
25 Dec 2013 Created article ????????? Taming09:13, 25 December 2013 (UTC) In Chinese[reply]
6 Jan 2014 Multiple new awards added to Awards of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia Fdutil (talk) 02:58, 7 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
7 Jan 2014 Added multiple new awards to Orders, decorations, and medals of France Fdutil (talk) 22:39, 7 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Created new article Order of Naval Merit (Brazil) Gbawden (talk) 10:42, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
19 Oct 2014 Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2014_November_20#Category:Sashes_of_the_Order_of_the_Star_of_Romania

Marcocapelle (talk) 12:42, 29 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

29 Oct 2014 Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2014_November_29#Category:Grand_Crosses_of_the_Order_of_Merit_of_the_Republic_of_Poland

Marcocapelle (talk) 12:42, 29 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

5 Jan 2015 Talk:Victoria Cross New section - VC and GC do not have equal precedence
Anthony Staunton (talk) 09:51, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
21 Jun 2015 Awards and decorations of the United States Merchant Marine - Folks over at Wikimedia Commons have been deleting images that used to be displayed on this page. Is this consistent with other award images? It'd be great to have images for some of these awards, the highest ones of which are valor awards, but I'm not good at making images. More info, search for Pesco ~PescoSo say•we all 01:10, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
12 Oct 2015 Many biographies of George Cross recipients make reference to the gc-database website. The name has been bought by a finance company it has nothing to do with Marion Hebblethwaite who has written thirteen books on George Cross recipients. The reference should be replaced with George Cross Recipients http://www.marionhebblethwaite.co.uk/ Anthony Staunton (talk) 03:07, 12 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
21 Dec 2016 Queen's Gallantry Medal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Queen%27s_Gallantry_Medal The last line of this entry 'Former decorations of Australia' seems irrelevant to this entry. It opens up to 'Australian Honours Order of Precedence prior to 6 October 1992'. They are not former decorations of Australia but Imperial (British) orders and decoration in which Australia was a full participant until 5 October 1992. Many of the orders and decorations are still listed in the Australian Order of Wear although if awarded after 5 October 1992 they will be treated as foreign awards. Australia like Britain has an Order of Wear not an Order of Precedence. There is a category 'civil bravery decorations' which is a made up category which would be better named 'Bravery awards' or 'Imperial (British) bravery awards' since it includes the Queen's Commendation for Brave Conduct which is not a decoration. You would think that the Queen's Gallantry Medal should be in this list since no less than 40 were awarded as a result of Australian Government or Australian State Government recommendations but it does include the four Albert Medals, Gold and Bronze, sea and land and the Edward Medal which were all abolished in 1971. After the New Year I will delete 'Former decorations of Australia' but would appreciate any comments in the meantime. Anthony Staunton (talk) 13:19, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
  • Once again, multiple article titles of Russian Federation ODMs were incorrectly changed to Russia (vice Russian Federation). These are multiple repeat change to multiple articles without consensus. The award criteria (establishment orders) appearing in all Russian Federation ODM articles are translated verbatim from the original documents from the Kremlin and the Russian Gazette, ALL cite Russian Federation, NOT Russia. This is a childish political statement akin calling the Soviet Union Russia or Soviets Russians. What happened to discussion and consensus on Wiki? I would also like to point out these changes were made by someone able to do so without leaving traces to the general editorial membership. By some incredible coincidence, a very short period of time after questioning a Wiki editor on why he had done such a thing to the main article on state awards of the Russian Federation. Please sort it out among yourselves, people with such access rights. Multi year researchers/contributors should not have to lower themselves to this unnecessary childish behaviour. Fdutil (talk) 17:15, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • There has been an award of the UK DSC to the French town of Dunkirk for service in the Great War. This is mentioned in a few links such as http://en.ww2awards.com/award/3 This is corroborated by the appearance of the decoration in Dunkirk's full coat of arms. There is also an old newspaper article online about the award, which I cannot seem to find now. Would this qualify as a "collective" award? If so, should it be included as such in the DSC page?
25 May 2017 Baronetcies conferred upon British expatriates and non-British nationals
I posed two questions at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Baronet Is this a list of Baronetcies recommended by British colonies and dominions? If so the heading should be amended. Since all have the title 'Sir' it assumes all are British subjects. Since all are British subjects how can any be British expatriates or non-British nationals? Anthony Staunton (talk) 23:01, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Form of language

Referring to 1924 Prime Minister's Resignation Honours, but I'm told it is widespread, there is a form of words on that page: "The King has been pleased to direct the following be sworn of His Majesty's Most Honourable Privy Council:"

That seems to me to be archaic and unencyclopedic, and inconsistent with the other categories of awards, where doubtless the king was also completely effing delighted to creat barons, knights, etc, but we do not say so. The language is fine for a formal publication such as the London Gazette in 1924 or today. It just does not work in 2018 on wikipedia, where the expectation is that we'll provide a list without anachronistic rhetorical flourishes. Could we agree to dispense with it, please; or else explain why we choose to employ it. --Tagishsimon (talk) 22:31, 25 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There being no interest from this forum, I;ve asked for discussion to be centralised at Talk:1924_Prime_Minister's_Resignation_Honours#Form _of_language. Please comment there. --Tagishsimon (talk) 11:51, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Southern Cross of Honor

Why is this listed as part of this on its talk page, it is not a recognized national (or even local government) award, but rather one awared privately (and with out any official recognition).Slatersteven (talk) 18:36, 5 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Notability (awards)

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Notability (awards). DBigXrayᗙ 21:43, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Need help organizing official and unofficial Confederate decorations.

Medal Awards Authorized Presented Established
Confederate Medal of Honor >50 SCV SCV 1977
Confederate Roll of Honor 2,104 CSA CSA 1863
Davis Guard Medal 50 CSA Texas 1864
Southern Cross of Honor 78,761 UDC UDC 1899
New Market Cross of Honor 294 Virginia VMI 1904

Each article included in this table has a copy of the table in the article, set aside in a section titled "Other CSA honors". Its purpose is apparently to provide an overview of the various honors that have been bestowed on veterans of the American Civil War who fought for the Confederate States of America.

There are two problems that I see.

  1. In the Wikipedia scheme of things, this doesn't seem to fill any ordinary function. It has more information than a navigation template. I can't find anything similar in other similar articles. If it were in prose it would need to be sourced, it would tend to grow, and it might seem off-topic.
  2. Two of these awards were officially authorized by government officials, while the other three have been created by private organizations. Three were given to posthumously or to living persons, one was only given to those living, and one is strictly posthumous. Four of them are physical medals, while one is a roster. So they are different kinds of awards in several respects.

Some editors object to calling these "CSA Honors" since most of them have not been given by the CSA. See the discussion at Talk:Confederate Medal of Honor (Sons of Confederate Veterans)#‎CSA honours. What's the best way to handle this material? Should we just delete it? Mobi Ditch (talk) 04:03, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

How about this instead, at the bottom of the page? Mobi Ditch (talk) 04:24, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Is the US Department of the Army Decoration for Exceptional Civilian Service the same as Department of the Army Award of Merit?

This obituary notice says that Wiswessser received "Department of the Army Award of Merit - the highest U.S. Army honor that can be awarded to a civilian". Is that an earlier name for Department of the Army Decoration for Exceptional Civilian Service? If so, could you please add that to the article and make a redirect? If not ... could you shed any light on Wiswesser's award? For the moment I've boldly piped the one to the other in William Wiswesser. Thanks. (I've also enquired at Talk:Department of the Army Decoration for Exceptional Civilian Service). PamD 09:45, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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listing award recipients

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Category:Orders of chivalry awarded to heads of state, consorts and sovereign family members

What exactly is this category tree supposed to contain? Is it (a) all orders that have ever been awarded to heads of state etc., or (b) only those orders that are exclusively granted to heads of state etc.? Could someone please add a description to the category page? I seem to recall that there has been past confusion in some CfD discussions. --Paul_012 (talk) 23:54, 25 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I assume the latter, as the former could probably include pretty much every order ever created. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:58, 4 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Texas medals

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Confusion between Orders of St. George; conflicting dates of establishment and grand masters

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Queen Victoria Diamond Jubilee Medal

Does anyone know of an official list of recipients, either in the London Gazette or elsewhere? Daemonickangaroo2018 (talk) 21:15, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Badge of Honor of the League of Civil Defense

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Articles for deletion

Three current discussions relevant to this project:

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widespread sourcing issues

Hi, I have been going through nobility articles removing deprecated sources such as royalark.net and have noticed the Honors and Awards sections are absolutely rife with terrible references. I have yet to come across one of these sections that doesn't contain citations to:

  1. A stand-alone image: pinterest, hostingpics.net, Getty, pinimg, Wikipedia Commons, zimbio, photobucket, farm2.staticflickr.com, flickr
    1. In these citations, editors are personally identifying (or taking the word of forums/blog contributors) insignias etc. being worn by the noble in question and using this as evidence that person received said honor, despite no such information being available in the actual source. This is clearly OR.
  2. Royalty forums: Foros Realeza, Royal Jewels of the World Message Board, The Royal Forums, Danish Royal Watchers, forums.thefashionspot.com,
  3. Blogs: tengkusyah.blogspot.be, Royal Ark, Noblesse et Royautés,
  4. Images hosted on blogs: blogspot, The Royal Forums, royalwatcher.tumblr.com

Diffs: Queen Anne of Romania; Albert II of Belgium; Frederik, Crown Prince of Denmark; Muhammad V of Kelantan; sash; Farah Pahlavi

Many of the pages with these issues are BLPs, so using any self-published source is forbidden! Please, when you see this crap--especially on BLPs--remove it! JoelleJay (talk) 19:30, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for reiterating this! It is indeed widespread with medals. RevelationDirect (talk) 16:32, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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