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Remove Prince of Wales Island (Nunavut)  5

Last comment 3 months ago. No consensus 2-1. QuicoleJR (talk) 18:12, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

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Uninhabited island listed only for being large, and 40th largest in the world and 10th largest in Canada is not very impressive. This archipelago already has roughly 12 listings, and this is the smallest of them.

Support
  1. As nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 15:18, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
  2. Vileplume (talk) 12:38, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
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  1. A large island visible on most world maps and globes. --Makkool (talk) 12:34, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
    @Makkool: Sure, it's big, but it has little to no importance outside of that. Nobody even lives on it. QuicoleJR (talk) 14:13, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
    I'm not convinced that population is the only grounds for vitality. We list 446 islands, and it's easily among the most vital islands for Wikipedia in that range. --Makkool (talk) 14:46, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
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Some colonies proposals

Add Colonial Brazil

Added 7-0. Makkool (talk) 06:28, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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The largest, most profitable and influential Portuguese colony; it lasted many centuries and dictated the foreign policy of the Portuguese Empire for many decades. Its establishment marked the beggining of European colonization in the Americas, as well as being the biggest reciever of the Trans-Atlantic slave trade. As a major trade hub, it fueled Europe's Industrial Revolution with its resources and labor force. To omit Colonial Brazil from vital articles is to overlook a pivotal chapter in human history. The Blue Rider 19:40, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

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  1. As nominator. The Blue Rider 19:40, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
  2. Strong support. Vileplume (talk) 02:44, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
  3. Very historically important. QuicoleJR (talk) 19:45, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
  4. Per nom. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 22:19, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
  5. Support Gizza (talk) 22:58, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
  6. Per nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 07:16, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
  7. -TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:40, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
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Add Dutch West India Company

Added 4-0. Makkool (talk) 06:28, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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Perhaps not as influential as its counterpart, Dutch East India Company, but still a important for the Dutch colonization, some of them still last today (ABC islands, Sint Martin, etc). The Blue Rider 19:40, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

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  1. As nominator. The Blue Rider 19:40, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
  2. The Dutch Caribbean is certainly more vital than the seven Lesser Antillean nations. I was the nom of Willemstad  5. Vileplume (talk) 02:43, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
  3. Seems decently important. QuicoleJR (talk) 19:47, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
  4. Per nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 07:16, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
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Add French Equatorial Africa

Added 4-0. Makkool (talk) 06:28, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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Similar in importance compared to French West Africa. The Blue Rider 19:40, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nominator. The Blue Rider 19:40, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
  2. Weak support; its population was nowhere near that of FWA. Vileplume (talk) 02:29, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
  3. Not quite as important as French West Africa  5, but definitely worth including. QuicoleJR (talk) 19:49, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
  4. Per nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 07:16, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
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Add Darfur genocide

Added 4-0. Makkool (talk) 06:28, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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The article describes it as the first genocide of the 21st century, which has been ongoing since 2003. It led to international outcry and eventually prosecutions in the ICC. (Note that the larger article on the War in Darfur  5 is listed, but I feel the genocide on its own its vital enough at this level).

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  1. As nom. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 00:18, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
  2. Well beyond many events we list; 80-400k is certainly enough. Vileplume (talk) 02:31, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
  3. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 04:35, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
  4. SailorGardevoir (talk) 01:13, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
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Swap Tigrayan peace process with Battle of Adwa  5

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Swapped 4–0. Makkool (talk) 19:10, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

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Even if lasting peace takes place, I am not sure we need two vital articles to cover the Tigray War  5. The Battle of Adwa, on the other hand, is a very important event in Ethiopian history. It is the culminating battle of the First Italo-Ethiopian War  5, a symbol of Pan-Africanism  5, and secured Ethiopia’s independence until the Second Italo-Ethiopian War  4.

Support
  1. As nominator.:Tabu Makiadi (talk) 19:04, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
  2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 23:19, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
  3. Per nominator. The Blue Rider 10:56, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
  4. SailorGardevoir (talk) 01:15, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
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Add New Amsterdam

Last comment 1 month ago. Removed 5-0. QuicoleJR (talk) 14:20, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

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Glaring omission, the first european settlement in what is now New York City  3. The Blue Rider 15:05, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nominator. The Blue Rider 15:05, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
  2. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 18:00, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
  3. 44 interwikis, rated High-Importance by WikiProject New York City. Pretty important to the history of the state. QuicoleJR (talk) 15:06, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
  4. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 22:02, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
  5. TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:11, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
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Add History of São Paulo  5

Last comment 8 days ago. Added 4-0. QuicoleJR (talk) 02:37, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

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It's the largest metropolitan area in the Americas. The list of histories of cities would make no sense without it. Much older than History of Chicago  5. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 17:31, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nom. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 17:31, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
  2. São Paulo  3 is VA3, and has existed for hundreds of years. QuicoleJR (talk) 21:53, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
  3. All VA3 cities should be listed. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 16:39, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
  4. Makkool (talk) 11:33, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
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Add 1815 eruption of Mount Tambora  5

Last comment 3 months ago. Added 4-0. QuicoleJR (talk) 14:00, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

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Per our recent additions of natural disasters, this is "the most powerful volcanic eruption in recorded human history" and the most likely reason for the Year Without a Summer. Estimates suggest it is also the deadliest volcano eruption in history, directly causing over 71,000 deaths.

Support
  1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 03:08, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
  2. Makes sense. Year Without a Summer should also be listed. QuicoleJR (talk) 12:02, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
  3. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:21, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
  4. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 00:11, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
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Add Minneapolis–Saint Paul

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Withdrawn by nominator. Makkool (talk) 16:49, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

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A famous example of twin cities. A good choice to add, so that Dallas–Fort Worth metroplex  5 wouldn't be the only metropolitan area from the US that we list.

Support
  1. as nom.Makkool (talk) 16:15, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
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  1. Would much rather readd Duluth. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 21:34, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
    Do you mean Duluth MN–WI Metropolitan Area? Makkool (talk) 09:26, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
    No, I mean the city of Duluth. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 12:37, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
    Ok, right! But metropolitan areas would go to a different section. Minneapolis-Saint Paul would be listed in Countries and subdivisions instead of Cities. Makkool (talk) 13:03, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
  2. Having the two core cities is enough. If we add metros, this is a ways down my list pbp 23:19, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
  3. Not even in the top ten most important US metros. Kevinishere15 (talk) 21:32, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
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Remove Jervis Bay Territory

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Removed 4-0. Makkool (talk) 14:58, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

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300ish total people.

Support
  1. pbp 03:18, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
  2. Only exists to give the ACT access to the sea. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 12:33, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
  3. Makkool (talk) 17:56, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
  4. Does not seem important enough. QuicoleJR (talk) 21:09, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
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Remove Dondra

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Removed 4-0. Makkool (talk) 19:20, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

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About 50,000 population and only 8 interwiki links. pbp 21:14, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

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  1. pbp 20:19, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
  2. Interwiki count is baffling and Sri Lanka is overrepresented. @Purplebackpack89: Since you believe all US states should be represented, should the same go for India? Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 23:13, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
  3. Should definitely be removed. Sri Lanka is overrepresented and this city does not have a good argument for being listed. QuicoleJR (talk) 21:06, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
  4. Iostn (talk) 16:23, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
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Add Tripoli, Lebanon  5

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Added 5-0. Makkool (talk) 19:20, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

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Lebanon is the largest country (6 mil total pop, 5.3 mil urban) with just one city. Tripoli has almost a quarter-million people, is 3400 years old and has 78 interwikis pbp 21:14, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. pbp 21:14, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
  2. Support per nom (though note that Tyre, Lebanon  4 and Sidon  5 at least are listed in historical cities but still are important cities today). J947 ‡ edits 22:15, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
  3.  Guinea also has a high urban population and only has Conakry  4. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 23:41, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
  4. Makes sense. QuicoleJR (talk) 20:55, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
  5. Also, move Tyre and Sidon from historical sites to here. Iostn (talk) 16:23, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
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Remove History of the Australian Capital Territory, History of the Northern Territory, History of South Australia, and History of Tasmania

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Removed 4-0. Makkool (talk) 14:29, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

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We removed the history of most US states and Canadian provinces of under 2 million, so it seems reasonable to do the same with Australia. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 12:21, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Support all
  1. As nom. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 12:21, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
  2. Makkool (talk) 20:56, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
  3. pbp 23:14, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
  4. Support all per nom. Interstellarity (talk) 23:24, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
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Early modern history additions

Add Great Fire of London

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Added 7-0. Makkool (talk) 17:21, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

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This maybe Anglo bias, but I am genuinely surprised this isn't already listed. Nearly everyone in the UK has heard of it.

Support
  1. As nom. Iostn (talk) 12:41, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
  2. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 20:51, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
  3. I'm not near the UK and I've heard of it too... starship.paint (RUN) 14:43, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
  4. Per nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 07:15, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
  5. What is with us not having natural disasters? SailorGardevoir (talk) 22:23, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
  6. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 01:08, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
  7. -TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:46, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
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Surely natural disasters are events whose fame transcends importance? J947 ‡ edits 22:57, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

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Add St. Bartholomew's Day massacre

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Both of the parent topics for this, French Wars of Religion  4 and Huguenots  4, are VA4, not to mention this has more interwikis than the former.

Support
  1. As nom. Iostn (talk) 12:41, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
  2. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 20:54, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
  3. Per nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 07:15, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
  4. SailorGardevoir (talk) 22:23, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
  5. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 01:09, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
  6. J947 ‡ edits 22:57, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
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Add Shimabara Rebellion

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An important event in the early Edo period  4, that had long-lasting ramifications for the Sakoku  5 policy and Christianity in Japan. Amakusa Shirō  5 is already a VA.

Support
  1. As nom. Iostn (talk) 12:41, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
  2. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 20:54, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
  3. Per nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 07:15, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
  4. SailorGardevoir (talk) 22:23, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
  5. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 17:08, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
  6. J947 ‡ edits 22:57, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
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Remove 2012 Benghazi attack

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I know this is sometimes mentioned in the U.S. media, but I am not sure it is so important to world history. We have 7 vital articles covering the Libyan Crisis (2011–present)  5, which I think is a recentist bias for a V5 conflict.

Support
  1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 15:29, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
  2. SailorGardevoir (talk) 01:16, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
  3. Does not seem vital. QuicoleJR (talk) 20:01, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
  4. Makkool (talk) 06:28, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
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Add Sino-Indian War

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This war saw direct confrontation between the world's two most populous countries. As both states have risen politically and economically, its salience remains important in geopolitics. For instance, during the 2020–2021 China–India skirmishes and the broader Sino-Indian border dispute.

Support
  1. As nominator.:Tabu Makiadi (talk) 18:49, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
  2. Support surprised it was missing. I almost consider it Level 4 vital. Gizza (talk) 22:59, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
  3. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 00:40, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
  4. SailorGardevoir (talk) 01:14, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
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Swap Crimes against humanity under communist regimes with Katyn massacre  5

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Framing aside, we already have Mass killings under communist regimes  5, which covers a lot of the same ground. For a more definite example, the decimation of Poland's leadership class in the Katyn Massacre was one of the most notorious war crimes by the Soviet Union.

Support
  1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 10:12, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
  2. Per nom Iostn (talk) 22:07, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
  3. --Thi (talk) 13:44, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
  4. Makkool (talk) 06:28, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
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Add Kingdom of Nri  5

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A kingdom in Africa that was seemingly influential for centuries and existed for 1000 years. Rated High-Importance by WikiProject Nigeria and Top-Importance by WikiProject Igbo.

Support
  1. As nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 15:42, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
  2. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 17:51, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
  3. Support - good find Gizza (talk) 01:27, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
  4. SailorGardevoir (talk) 10:18, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
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Various history removals

Didn't realize we almost fulfilled the current History quota (3,300), so I scrounged for a few potential removals and gathered these ten:

Remove Military history of the Mali Empire

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In the same vein, we only have Military history of Europe  5 and Military history of the United States  5. This one doesn't stand out enough.

Support
  1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 17:50, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
  2. Makkool (talk) 08:32, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
  3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 05:23, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
  4. Interstellarity (talk) 00:53, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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Remove 1889 Apia cyclone

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Presumably added for its relation to the Samoan crisis  5, which is already a weak V5 in my opinion, as it is part of the broader Samoan Civil War  5 and later Second Samoan Civil War  5. The Samoan crisis article only mentions the cyclone once.

Support
  1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 17:50, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
  2. Makkool (talk) 08:32, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
  3. QuicoleJR (talk) 17:40, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
  4. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 05:23, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
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Remove 2019 Bolivian protests

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I don't enjoy rallying against Latin American representation but this strikes me as a recentist complement to the 2019 Bolivian political crisis  5.

Support
  1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 17:50, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
  2. Makkool (talk) 08:32, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
  3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 05:23, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
  4. Iostn (talk) 16:23, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
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Remove RMS Lusitania

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Another two-slot event that can be condensed. The ship's history is well-covered by Sinking of the RMS Lusitania  5.

Support
  1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 17:50, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
  2. Makkool (talk) 08:32, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
  3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 05:23, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
  4. Interstellarity (talk) 00:53, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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Remove 2019 Samoa measles outbreak

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5,700 cases and 83 deaths.

Support
  1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 17:50, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
  2. Makkool (talk) 08:32, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
  3. Not enough of an impact. QuicoleJR (talk) 17:34, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
  4. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 05:23, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
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Remove Togo national football team attack

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Removed 5-0. Makkool (talk) 17:51, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

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A terrorist attack part of the Cabinda War. The War, which has been ongoing for nearly 50 years, is not VA5, so I guess a swap could be on the table.

Support
  1. As nominator. Weak support for a swap with Cabinda War. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 17:50, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
  2. Makkool (talk) 08:32, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
  3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 05:23, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
  4. Support if swapped for Cabinda War. CMD (talk) 05:42, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
  5. feminist🩸 (talk) 13:56, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
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Remove 2014 Gaza War

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Removed 4-0. Makkool (talk) 19:06, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

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During my nomination of the Israel–Hamas war  5 some of you expressed support for a swap. The Israel-Palestine conflict may be overrepresented for its current salience.

Support
  1. Weak support as nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 17:50, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
  2. Makkool (talk) 08:32, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
  3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 05:23, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
  4. Interstellarity (talk) 00:53, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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Remove History of forensic photography

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Removed 4-0. Makkool (talk) 19:06, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

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Minor area in Forensic science  4. 1 interwiki.

Support
  1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 17:50, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
  2. Makkool (talk) 08:32, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
  3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 05:23, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
  4. Forensic photography isn't even listed! QuicoleJR (talk) 22:49, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
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Remove Timeline of jet power

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Removed 4-0. Makkool (talk) 17:51, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

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Minor timeline article in the History of aviation  4. 0 interwikis.

Support
  1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 17:50, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
  2. Makkool (talk) 08:32, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
  3. We should not list any timelines. QuicoleJR (talk) 17:36, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
  4. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 05:23, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
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Remove History of cycling infrastructure

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Removed 5-0. Makkool (talk) 17:51, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

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Minor article in the History of cycling  5. 0 interwikis.

Support
  1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 17:50, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
  2. Makkool (talk) 08:32, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
  3. Cycling infrastructure  5 and History of cycling  5 are both only VA5. QuicoleJR (talk) 17:37, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
  4. Why this, feminist? starship.paint (RUN) 05:23, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
    1. Special:Diff/853378440 – looks like it was an indiscriminate addition from User:SethAllen623/Vital articles/Expanded/Histories of science, technology, and mathematics back when we were still nowhere near the 50,000 quota. I felt that adding stuff to the list first, based on work already done by other editors, and then fine-tuning it in the future, would be more efficient than building the list from scratch. When many of the sections were empty, it was harder to get an idea of whether something would end up being appropriate in a list of 50,000 articles. feminist🩸 (talk) 13:54, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
  5. Support removal. feminist🩸 (talk) 13:54, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
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Historical cities additions

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All three added 4-0. Makkool (talk) 20:02, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add Kowloon Walled City  5

Quite important to the history of Hong Kong.

Support
  1. As nom. Makkool (talk) 18:11, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
  2. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 18:02, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
  3. very iconic feminist🩸 (talk) 02:43, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
  4. Interstellarity (talk) 00:51, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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Add Londinium  5

The capital of Roman Britain, predecessor to modern-day London.

Support
  1. As nom. Makkool (talk) 18:11, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
  2. Per nominator. The Blue Rider 15:07, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
  3. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 18:02, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
  4. Interstellarity (talk) 00:51, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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Add Lutetia  5

A major settlement in Gaul, predecessor to modern-day Paris.

Support
  1. As nom. Makkool (talk) 18:11, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
  2. Per nominator. The Blue Rider 15:07, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
  3. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 18:02, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
  4. Interstellarity (talk) 00:51, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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Remove some historical cities stubs

Since I'm here, I took a look at the stub-rated articles, and I got to be honest, I don't think these articles are ever going to improve.

Remove Nagasaki foreign settlement

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Removed 5-0. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 01:19, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

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It's not even its own article in Japanese Wikipedia.

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  1. SailorGardevoir (talk) 20:17, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
  2. 2 iwikis, 5 dailies. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 21:34, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
  3. Support swap with Dejima. The Blue Rider 22:18, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
  4. Remove per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:31, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
  5. Per nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 18:31, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
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Remove Sukhothai (city)

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Removed 4-0. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 01:19, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

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This is apparently a World Heritage Site, yet despite being written in 2004, it has only gained a couple of paragraphs.

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  1. SailorGardevoir (talk) 20:17, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
  2. 4 iwikis (Thai not being one of them), 23 dailies. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 21:36, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
  3. per above. starship.paint (RUN) 13:31, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
  4. Per nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 18:31, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
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I would support a swap with Sukhothai Historical Park which refers to the UNESCO World Heritage Site. Gizza (talk) 05:08, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

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Remove Talianki (archaeological site)

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Removed 4-0. Makkool (talk) 19:10, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

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Both projects it's in rate the article as low importance.

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  1. SailorGardevoir (talk) 20:17, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
  2. 4 iwikis, 23 dailies. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 21:55, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
  3. per above. starship.paint (RUN) 13:31, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
  4. Interstellarity (talk) 00:45, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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  1. I don't know about this. The article says that it is thought to be "currently the largest known settlement in Neolithic Europe". Could the article's importance rating be misjudged? Makkool (talk) 21:50, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
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Remove Onondaga (village)

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Removed 4-0. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 01:19, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

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This article doesn't even have fifty edits.

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  1. SailorGardevoir (talk) 20:17, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
  2. 4 iwikis, 50 dailies. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 22:06, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
  3. per above. starship.paint (RUN) 13:31, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
  4. Per nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 18:31, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
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Add Primate city  5

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Added 4-0. Makkool (talk) 20:02, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

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A general city-related topic that seems vital. Would fit well next to capital city. --Makkool (talk) 17:33, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nom. --Makkool (talk) 17:33, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
  2. SailorGardevoir (talk) 21:48, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
  3. Although it's a bit too much of a term as opposed to a concept for my liking. J947 ‡ edits 02:12, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
  4. Without a doubt. Interstellarity (talk) 19:51, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
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