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Q1: Why is [Insert event here], an event that is "more important and significant" than all the others that are currently listed, not posted?: A1: Relative article quality along with the mix of topics already listed are often deciding factors in what gets posted. Any given day of the year can have a great many important or significant historical events. The problem is that there is generally only room on the Main Page to list about 5 events at a time, so not everything can be posted.

As stated on Wikipedia:FAQ/Main Page, the items and events posted on the Main Page are chosen based more on how well they are written, not based on how much important or significant their subjects are. It is easier for admins to select a well-written, cited, verifiable article over a poor one versus trying to determine objectively how much a subject is important or significant.

Keep in mind that the quality requirements only apply to the selected bolded article, not the other links. Thus, an event may qualify for multiple dates in a year if there is an article written in a summary style and an article providing detailed content; if one of those pages have cleanup issues, the other page can be bolded as an alternate.

Another criterion is to maintain some variety of topics, and not exhibit, just for example, tech-centrism, or the belief that the world stops at the edge of the English-speaking world. Many days have a large pool of potential articles, so they will rotate in and out every year to give each one some Main Page exposure. In addition, an event is not posted if it is also the subject of this year's scheduled featured article or featured picture.

Q2: There are way too many 20th-century events listed. Why aren't there more events from the 19th century and before?

A2: The short, basic reason is the systemic bias of Wikipedia. There are not enough good, well-written articles on 19th-century and earlier events for all 365 days in the year. Currently, a majority of users seem to be generally more interested in writing articles about recent events. If you would like to further help mitigate the systemic bias in Wikipedia, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Countering systemic bias.

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Q4: Why is the birthday/death anniversary of [Insert name here] not listed?

A4: There are only four slots available for birth and death anniversaries. As with the events, article quality and diversity in time period, geography, and reason for notability are all contributing factors in whether an article gets selected for inclusion.

Q5: Are the holidays/observances listed in any particular order?

A5: Yes, there is a specified order: International observances first, then alphabetically by where observed.

Q6: Some of the holidays/observances that are listed have dates in parentheses beside them. What do they mean?

A6: There are two reasons that some holidays/observances have dates next to them:

Non-Gregorian-based holidays/observances are marked with the current year as a reminder to others that their dates do in fact vary from year to year.
National Days, Independence Days, and other holidays celebrating the nationhood of a country are generally marked by the year of the significant historic date being observed.

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2012 notes

Omitted: Qutuz; Japanese battleship Musashi; United Nations Headquarters
Included: United Nations Charter (9th appearance, last in 2008); Duong Van Duc/Lam Van Phat (both: 2nd appearance, last in 2010); Chang'e 1 (3rd appearance, last in 2010; moved from November 5)
Repeats: Umbriel (moon)/Ariel (moon) (both: 2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total); Battle of Kumanovo (5th consecutive appearance, 5 total; 100th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 06:25, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Consider moving Musashi to Nov 1, its launch date, because it caused a mini-tsunami when it went into the water. —howcheng {chat} 11:23, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

space needed

under the day's events

" The UN Charter, the constitution of the United Nations,entered..." A space is needed after "Nations," Thomas R. Fasulo (talk) 00:49, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2013 notes

Moved to Ineligible: Zambia (maintenance)
Omitted: Umbriel (moon)/Ariel (moon); Battle of Kumanovo; Dương Văn Đức/Lam Van Phat
Included: Qutuz/Baibars (Qutuz: 4th appearance, last in 2011; Baibars: 4th appearance, last in 2008, previously appeared on May 18); Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth (first appearance); George Washington Bridge (3rd appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible)
Repeats: United Nations Charter (2nd consecutive appearance, 9 total); Chang'e 1 (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total)

—howcheng {chat} 05:48, 23 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2014 notes

Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Sheffield F.C.
Omitted: Qutuz/Baibars; Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth; George Washington Bridge; United Nations Charter; Chang'e 1
Included: Peace of Westphalia (7th appearance, last in 2009; rescued from Ineligible); Umbriel (moon)/Ariel (moon) (both: 3rd appearance, last in 2012); Battle of Kumanovo (6th appearance, last in 2012); Japanese battleship Musashi (2nd appearance, last in 2011; 70th anniversary); Dương Văn Đức/Lâm Văn Phát (both: 3rd appearance, last in 2012)

—howcheng {chat} 06:42, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2015 notes

Omitted: Peace of Westphalia; Umbriel (moon)/Ariel (moon); Battle of Kumanovo; Japanese battleship Musashi
Included: Brabant Revolution (first appearance); Sheffield F.C. (3rd appearance, last in 2009); George Washington Bridge (4th appearance, last in 2013); United Nations Charter (11th appearance, last in 2013; 70th anniversary)
Repeats: Dương Văn Đức/Lâm Văn Phát (both: 2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total)

—howcheng {chat} 10:05, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

2016 notes

Omitted: Brabant Revolution; Sheffield F.C.; George Washington Bridge; United Nations Charter; Dương Văn Đức/Lâm Văn Phát
Included: Qutuz/Baibars (both: 6th appearance, last in 2013); Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth (2nd appearance, last in 2013); Battle of Kumanovo (7th appearance, last in 2014); Headquarters of the United Nations (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Chang'e 1 (5th appearance, last in 2013)

—howcheng {chat} 06:03, 23 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

2017 notes

Moved to Ineligible: Peace of Westphalia (maintenance); George Washington Bridge (maintenance)
Omitted: United Nations Day (ineligible—maintenance); Zambia (ineligible—maintenance); Qutuz; Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth; Battle of Kumanovo; Headquarters of the United Nations; Chang'e 1 (ineligible—maintenance)
Included: Brabant Revolution (2nd appearance, last in 2015); Sheffield F.C. (4th appearance, last in 2015); Chinese massacre of 1871 (first appearance); Japanese battleship Musashi (3rd appearance, last in 2011); Dương Văn Đức/Lâm Văn Phát (both: 5th appearance, last in 2015); Tycho Brahe (first appearance); Richard Temple, 1st Viscount Cobham (first appearance); Letitia Woods Brown (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 03:49, 24 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2018 notes

New articles (unused): Tenterfield Oration
Omitted: Brabant Revolution; Umbriel (moon)/Ariel (moon); Chinese massacre of 1871; Japanese battleship Musashi; Dương Văn Đức/Lâm Văn Phát; Tycho Brahe; Richard Temple, 1st Viscount Cobham
Included: Peace of Westphalia (8th appearance, last in 2014; rescued from Ineligible); George Washington Bridge (5th appearance, last in 2015; rescued from Ineligible); United Nations Charter (12th appearance, last in 2015); 1975 Icelandic women's strike (first appearance); William Prynne (first appearance); Roman Abramovich (first appearance)
Repeats: Letitia Woods Brown (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 16:18, 24 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

2019 notes

Omitted: Peace of Westphalia; George Washington Bridge; United Nations Charter; 1975 Icelandic women's strike; Letitia Woods Brown; Roman Abramovich
Included: Qutuz (6th appearance, last in 2016; blurb previously also featured Baibars, which is currently ineligible); Brabant Revolution (3rd appearance, last in 2017); Tenterfield Oration (first appearance); Battle of Kumanovo (8th appearance, last in 2016); Headquarters of the United Nations (3rd appearance, last in 2016; 70th anniversary); Sarah Josepha Hale (first appearance); Lakshmi Sahgal (first appearance)
Repeats: William Prynne (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total; 350th birthday)

—howcheng {chat} 16:51, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2020 notes

Moved to Ineligible: Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth (maintenance); Chinese massacre of 1871 (maintenance)
New articles (ineligible): Battle of Vittorio Veneto (maintenance)
Omitted: Brabant Revolution; Tenterfield Oration; Battle of Kumanovo (ineligible—maintenance); Headquarters of the United Nations; William Prynne; Sarah Josepha Hale; Lakshmi Sahgal
Included: Umbriel (moon)/Ariel (moon) (both: 5th appearance, last in 2017); George Washington Bridge (6th appearance, last in 2018; rescued from Ineligible); Charter of the United Nations (13th appearance, last in 2018; 75th anniversary); Nedelin catastrophe (3rd appearance, last in 2018); Massimo d'Azeglio (first appearance); Alexander Wilson (British writer) (first appearance); Richard Hofstadter (first appearance; 50th anniversary)
Repeats: Qutuz (2nd consecutive appearance, 7 total)

—howcheng {chat} 22:44, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2021 notes

Omitted: Qutuz; Umbriel (moon)/Ariel (moon); Charter of the United Nations; Nedelin catastrophe; Massimo d'Azeglio; Alexander Wilson (British writer); Richard Hofstadter
Included: Peace of Westphalia (9th appearance, last in 2018); Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth (3rd appearance, last in 2016; rescued from Ineligible); Tenterfield Oration (2nd appearance, last in 2019); Dương Văn Đức/Lâm Văn Phát (both: 6th appearance, last in 2017); Marianne North (first appearance); Désiré Charnay (first appearance); Carlo Abarth (first appearance)
Repeats: George Washington Bridge (2nd consecutive appearance, 7 total; 80th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 16:23, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]