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November 13th is the anniversary of the opening of the Holland Tunnel in New York City

2012 notes

Omitted: Æthelred the Unready/St. Brice's Day massacre; Holland Tunnel; SS Yarmouth Castle (ineligible—maintenance); 1970 Bhola cyclone; Dietrich v The Queen
Included: Rugby League World Cup (4th appearance, last in 2008); Duk Koo Kim (2nd appearance, last in 2009; rescued from Ineligible); Nevado del Ruiz/Armero tragedy (Nevado del Ruiz: 7th appearance, last in 2009; Armero tragedy: first appearance); Aramoana massacre (first appearance); Batasang Pambansa bombing (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 06:33, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2013 notes

Deleted: 1970 Bhola cyclone (moved to November 12)
Omitted: Rugby League World Cup; Duk Koo Kim; Nevado del Ruiz/Armero tragedy; Aramoana massacre; Batasang Pambansa bombing
Included: James Braid (surgeon) (first appearance); Samu Incident (first appearance); Vietnam Veterans Memorial (6th appearance, last in 2008); Hans-Adam II, Prince of Liechtenstein (first appearance); Dietrich v The Queen (3rd appearance, last in 2011)

—howcheng {chat} 07:22, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2014 notes

Omitted: James Braid (surgeon); Samu Incident; Vietnam Veterans Memorial; Dietrich v The Queen
Included: Æthelred the Unready/St. Brice's Day massacre (Æthelred: 6th appearance; Massacre: 2nd appearance; both last in 2011); Battle of Turnham Green (4th appearance, last in 2009; rescued from Ineligible); Battle of El Herri (first appearance; 100th anniversary); Rugby League World Cup (5th appearance, last in 2012; 60th anniversary);
Repeats: Hans-Adam II, Prince of Liechtenstein (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total; 25th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 08:11, 12 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2015 notes

Omitted: John Chrysostom (ineligible—maintenance); Æthelred the Unready/St. Brice's Day massacre; Battle of El Herri; Rugby League World Cup; Hans-Adam II, Prince of Liechtenstein ; November 2015 Paris attacks (Youyouca (talk) 17:33, 13 November 2020 (UTC))[reply]
Included: James Braid (surgeon) (2nd appearance, last in 2013); Fantasia (1940 film) (first appearance; 75th anniversary); Nevado del Ruiz/Armero tragedy (Nevado: 8th appearane; Armero: 2nd appearance; both last in 2012; 30th anniversary); Aramoana massacre (2nd appearance, last in 2012; 25th anniversary)
Repeats: Battle of Turnham Green (2nd consecutive appearance, 5 total)

—howcheng {chat} 08:05, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

2016 notes

Omitted: Battle of Turnham Green; Fantasia (1940 film); Nevado del Ruiz/Armero tragedy; Aramoana massacre
Included: John Chrysostom (rescued from Ineligible); Æthelred the Unready/St. Brice's Day massacre (Æthelred: 7th appearance; Massacre: 2nd appearance; both last in 2014); Holland Tunnel (3rd appearance, last in 2011); Samu Incident (2nd appearance, last in 2013; 50th anniversary); Kim Duk-koo (3rd appearance, last in 2012)
Repeats: James Braid (surgeon) (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total; 175th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 04:55, 13 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

2017 notes

Moved to Ineligible: Rugby League World Cup (maintenance); Vietnam Veterans Memorial (maintenance); Hans-Adam II, Prince of Liechtenstein (maintenance); Aramoana massacre (maintenance)
Omitted: James Braid (surgeon); Samu Incident; Kim Duk-koo
Included: Battle of Turnham Green (6th appearance, last in 2015; 375th anniversary); Dietrich v The Queen (4th appearance, last in 2013; 25th anniversary); Batasang Pambansa bombing (2nd appearance, last in 2012; 10th anniversary); Malcolm III of Scotland (first appearance); Robert Louis Stevenson (first appearance); Amory Lovins (first appearance)
Repeats: St. Brice's Day massacre (2nd consecutive appearance; 3 total; blurb previously also featured Æthelred the Unready, which is currently ineligible); Holland Tunnel (2nd consecutive appearance; 4 total; 90th anniversary)