User talk:Zoejerome/sandbox

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Hi there, I think this is overall a great draft and certainly an improvement on the article as is. You have added a lot of words and citations, which will be so helpful to the article. I also like that you have incorporated a world view to the subject. I do have a few suggestions for your consideration:

1. I would consider changing the headings to the largest available so that it is easier to read.

2.Consider linking some of the terms you mention to their own Wikipedia pages by clicking the link icon at the top of the “edit” page. I think there is also a tutorial for this?

3.In the lead section: Make sure you cite all of the information you use by using the citation tool (it might even auto-populate for you). Is pregnancy options counseling only for women with unwanted/unintended pregnancy, or is it also for others? Is the “information they present unbiased” all of the time or is that simply the ideal? I have heard of pro-life activists posing as counselors so perhaps it is worth noting that it is not always unbiased. You use the word “should”, which is a normative statement. I believe we are supposed to avoid normative statements so maybe explain who says counselors “should” or rephrase so that it is less of a value judgment. I would also remove the word “simply” for the same reason.

4.In the section “abortion prevalence”: You did a great job of citing here. I would suggest, however, that you use the citation tool so that you have a list of references at the end. I think the sentence about abortions being safer while legal could be contested, so maybe rephrase it to seem less biased.

5.In the section “world wide abortion policies”: The first sentence needs to be restructured or needs a comma somewhere. What do you mean by “save the woman’s life”? Perhaps be more specific as to what qualifies. The sentence about 3% of the world’s countries seems unnecessary to me. Also make sure to cite all of your facts you use.

6.In the section “unknown title”: Obviously this needs a title, but I am sure you are already aware of that! I think you need to cite your sources in this section. I think it might also be good to mention what happens if a woman is not allowed a legal abortion? Finally, the first sentence seems a bit out of place with the paragraph as a whole.

7.I see the other sections you have coming up and I think that the types of adoptions, adoption laws, choosing to parent, and prenatal care sections will be great to include. Perhaps add a sentence in the first paragraph of the article which mentions these options which are provided to women? And I would consider linking to the Wikipedia articles on these topics.

8.Finally, I also think the inclusion of contraception is questionable. It makes sense, but also seems a bit out of scope of the article. I would suggest leaving it out, as it would be a shame to put a lot of work into it and have it be removed later for being irrelevant.

I hope this was helpful! Let me know if you have other questions. Msjohn15 (talk) 21:14, 2 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

comments from Dr. Dove

Hi Zoe,

To address your questions first, adding citations and linking to other Wiki articles is essential to the final product. You can do both those things from buttons in the Edit window. To cite sources, click on the "Cite your sources" link at the bottom of the edit window and enter your source information between the "ref" tags.[1] To link to other Wiki articles, you use double brackets on both sides like this Help:Links. It's true that this information should be in the tutorials, so may want to go back to check.

In terms of the content of your article so far, I think it looks good. If you do want to mention contraception briefly, you could just link to the Wiki article on contraception and leave it at that; I agree with Kenzie that you don't need to get too far into it, as it has it's own article. Discussing briefly each of the other possible options offered during pregnancy counseling and then linking to the articles that further discuss those practices (as I'm sure there are robust articles about adoption, abortion, etc.) would make the most sense. You may also want to see if there are any controversies or differences of opinion in the literature about how this counseling should be conducted and/or who is authorized to offer this kind of counseling.

Adovevie (talk) 15:47, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]


In response to Kenzie's comments: I appreciate the information on how to reformat my headings and add links to certain terms, I will most certainly be doing that for my final draft. Pregnancy options counseling in this form is only sought out by women with unplanned pregnancies because women with planned pregnancies know their intending to keep the child. I will clarify that opinions counseling 'should' be unbiased and look into circumstances where it isn't. I have already found information on what happens when women are not allowed to get abortions (they are still just as likely to get the abortion and proceed with an illegal procedure) so I will make sure to add more information about that! I agree, the contraception section is slightly unrelated to this topic so I will leave that out. Lastly, I will look in to the grammatical errors/sentences that need rewording! Zoejerome (talk) 19:33, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]


Zoejerome (talk) 18:18, 23 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ It will automatically add a footnote and look like this.