User talk:Zlmark

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Welcome!

Hi Zlmark! I noticed your contributions and wanted to welcome you to the Wikipedia community. I hope you like it here and decide to stay.

I've noticed that you've expressed an interest in the Arab–Israeli conflict. Unfortunately, due to a history of conflict and disruptive editing it has been designated a contentious topic and is subject to some strict rules.

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Happy editing! Selfstudier (talk) 16:18, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, @Selfstudier: - I'm new to this, so any advice on the process is greatly appreciated.

Reminder, per WP:ARBECR and the above restrictions, you are restricted to the making of edit requests only, nothing more. Thanks. Selfstudier (talk) 17:46, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the clarification.

Does this mean that I'm not allowed to comment on the Talk page? Zlmark (talk) 17:48, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

That's right, straightforward edit requests (WP:EDITXY) only. If you are interested in the AI/IP topic area generally, the best thing is to rack up 500 edits elsewhere first. Selfstudier (talk) 17:53, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Got it - thanks. Zlmark (talk) 17:57, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Reminder, edit requests only. I have removed your comments at RSN. Please comply with the restrictions, thank you. Selfstudier (talk) 09:54, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

I didn't see any restrictions on the RSN page - isn't it open for everyone? Zlmark (talk) 10:20, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

The only thing you are permitted to do in the topic area is make edit requests at article talk pages, that's it. It doesn't matter what restrictions you see at a particular page, if the matter is dealing with the AI/IP conflict "broadly construed" (ie even if its only tangentially), then you are not permitted to engage. Selfstudier (talk) 10:28, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Ok, I see - I missed the part that the restrictions apply to *everything* related to this topic , thought they only apply to specific pages.

Am I allowed to add edit requests to the RSN page? Zlmark (talk) 11:27, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

you are allowed to participate and edit the RSN page in general but not in relation to topics subject to ECR restrictions. There would be no point in making an edit request at that page because it is not an article but a place for internal project discussions about source reliability. Selfstudier (talk) 11:41, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

I thought that if I'm allowed to contribute by making an edit request at article pages, it would make even more sense to allow this form of contribution in internal project discussions.

In both cases I point to what I consider a relevant information, and the senior editors ca Zlmark (talk) 11:58, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

can then decide whether the suggested info is useful or not Zlmark (talk) 12:00, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Internal project discussions (RFC, RM, etcetera) are all excluded, straightforward edit requests only, that's it. If you are very interested in the topic area best way to engage with it is to rack up 500 edits. Selfstudier (talk) 12:01, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

ok, got it

Thank you for taking the time to explain it - really appreciate it. Zlmark (talk) 12:53, 13 July 2024 (UTC)