User talk:UTAPROF ZXQ
Community Colleges Futures Assembly
Having viewed the deleted version of your article, I don't believe that L'Aquatique deleted it because she believes that your organisation shouldn't have an article: I believe that the problem was the way the page was written. We seek to have articles with a neutral point of view as much as possible. Articles that have an obvious point of view are likely to be marked as such and perhaps significantly cut down, while a page that is through-and-through promotional, even if it's for an organisation like yours, can be deleted outright. If you'd like to see your organisation have an article, you'd do best first to read our conflict of interest guideline and the neutral point of view page to which I already linked above. We try not to be arbitrary in what we allow and what we don't (of course, that would be a strong point of view, too!), so please don't think that we hate your group and love others: it's simply a matter of how the article follows our policies and guidelines. I'll be happy to help if you want to ask me, as well as L'Aquatique. Nyttend (talk) 01:50, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
- Well, Nyttend said it better than me, but you can see my response back at my talk page. Thanks for your patience! L'Aquatique[parlez] 05:11, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
Ok...I guess I am still confused. I agree, in part, with what you have said, the policies you have cited, but do not understand how this fits into the intent of the wiki page which I thought I had explained. What the page is, as it stands now, is a shell for graduate students to create "filler" based upon presentations they monitor on best practices in community college administration. The Community College Futures Assembly is THE national symposium in the community college arena. There are two other national community college conferences, the council for the study of community colleges and the American Association of Community Colleges, where we present the summary findings from this symposia. We are looking for another mechanism for distributing the best practices and for a way to involve future community college administrators and researchers in a newer technological delivery method. But how are we to get this up and off the ground if it is killed before it can even begin? I can most certainly add more references or even endorsements from the biggest names in community college administration, along with their contact information for verification. Names like George Boggs, President of the American Association of Community College, Noah Brown, President of the American Association of Community College Trustees, Pat Stanley, Deputy Secretary of Education for the United States...just a few of the endorsement I can provide very quickly for the significance of this work. Thanks for your quick response and comments! I appreciate it. 14:55, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
I also wanted to add this is NOT my conference...this is a conference by the University of Florida...I am a professor at the University of Texas-Arlington.
UTAPROF ZXQ (talk) 01:48, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Response at WP:EAR
Please see my response to you at Wikipedia:Editor assistance/Requests#Request for help.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:04, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Community college conferences
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Add CCFA page to other conferences
There are literally hundreds of wikis on conferences so this one should be nothing new. I also intend to make wiki's for each of the conferences in community college and vocational education (along with my graduate students as assignments in class).
There are links to community college conferences on other wikipages. I, being a professor of community college administration, am attempting to expand that knowledge base by providing wikis for those conferences. However, I cannot do that if your "reviewers" delete the wikis before I can even get started. I am not going to spend countless hours writing all the wikis needed for all of the conferences, the history of community colleges, vocational education in the US, etc...to only be denied much, much later. Thus, this is a test to see how affable the wiki process will be for me as I look to add wiki's to my online classes.
I have added this page twice before and notice my talk pages have been deleted with listings of other educational conference wikis, gaming conference wikis, computer hacker conference wikis, etc.
If nothing else I would like to know why you accept wikis for some conferences but not others? This seems inconsistent.
Add CCFA page to other conferences
There are literally hundreds of wikis on conferences so this one should be nothing new. I also intend to make wiki's for each of the conferences in community college and vocational education (along with my graduate students as assignments in class).
There are links to community college conferences on other wikipages. I, being a professor of community college administration, am attempting to expand that knowledge base by providing wikis for those conferences. However, I cannot do that if your "reviewers" delete the wikis before I can even get started. I am not going to spend countless hours writing all the wikis needed for all of the conferences, the history of community colleges, vocational education in the US, etc...to only be denied much, much later. Thus, this is a test to see how affable the wiki process will be for me as I look to add wiki's to my online classes.
I have added this page twice before and notice my talk pages have been deleted with listings of other educational conference wikis, gaming conference wikis, computer hacker conference wikis, etc.
If nothing else I would like to know why you accept wikis for some conferences but not others? This seems inconsistent.
I have also added other references for this conference with respect to the guidelines on conferences and organizations...I do not feel having a speedy delete should have been attributed without reference to these guidelines...the administrator who deleted it should have given me more time and provided me with these guidelines...how else should I start using wiki's without becoming too frustrated?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ORG
UTAPROF ZXQ (talk) 19:38, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
A tag has been placed on Southern Association of Community, Junior, and Technical Colleges, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam as well as Wikipedia:FAQ/Business for more information. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.
If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. A little insignificant Help, it's almost Halloween! AAH! 19:53, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
New articles
(In response to this edit at User talk:GlassCobra:)
- Please understand that Wikipedia is a community, and it has policies and standards, such as WP:FIVE. It also has many different contributors, including content editors, administrators, and people who may be either editors or admins who patrol new pages (such as your article), or specific categories of pages, such as biographies of living persons, or articles about a topic that interests them. GlassCobra did not delete your article, but rather marked it for deletion. An admin deleted it because s/he agreed with the assertion that the article you created was primarily promotional in nature. Judging by the version that's on your user page, I can see why. That page reads like a "conference proceedings" page rather than an article about the organization itself. There are sources that would help establish the notability of this organization; I think it's borderline but a case can be made. I recommend you start with a short article - perhaps the first two paragraphs - and work upward from there. Articles on Wikipedia aren't born complete - far from it.
- On another note, please beware of your sources and quoting. The Bellwether Awards annually recognize outstanding and innovative programs and practices that are successfully leading community colleges in the United States into the future. - while it is only one sentence - comes directly from here, which will also not bode well for an article in Wikipedia.
- I have taken the liberty of creating a sandbox version of the article for you to work on. It is much shorter and it is lighter on the academic references, in favor of independent coverage. It also has far fewer details; the article should be about the organization, not a blow-by-blow history of each of its conferences, which would be more appropriate for Wikinews than for an encyclopedia.
- If you have any questions, please let me know. Frank | talk 12:50, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Community College Futures Assembly
Regarding Community College Futures Assembly, I was hoping to develop the article more before moving it into the main article space. Even though it is no longer written as a purely promotional article, we haven't really established notability yet. Do you have citations from reliable sources to help support a claim to notability? Frank | talk 17:28, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
In addition, the article should have been moved rather than recreated, as you did. There are two reasons for this. First, by recreating, you are reusing content that was created (and/or modified) by others without attribution, which is a violation of the GFDL. Second, your edit summary in recreating the page implies a stamp of approval that simply isn't there, not to mention that I'm not sure who the "six or seven administrators" you refer to are. Keep in mind that an administrator is no "better" than you are; we may be more familiar with policy but that doesn't mean we are always right or that our edits cannot be challenged. Frank | talk 17:29, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Articles for deletion nomination of Community College Futures Assembly
I have nominated Community College Futures Assembly, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Community College Futures Assembly. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.
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Articles for deletion nomination of Community college research
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Policies
Regarding this edit, you do not seem to be heeding the advice you've gotten from a number of experienced editors. The article you "put back" is substantially the same as content that has previously been deleted under WP:CSD#G11. Replacing it will likely get you a similar result. You can restore a previous version yourself, or it will likely be nominated again for speedy deletion (I may even nominate it myself). That will mean that the deletion discussion (referenced above) will not continue for the full seven days, and you will not get a public forum for discussion about whether or not the topic is notable. Is that what you hope to accomplish? Frank | talk 22:15, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
MfD nomination of User:UTAPROF ZXQ
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