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Well, thanks for the star Hmains (talk) 01:44, 27 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your welcome, fellow autopatroller! Thewinrat (talk) 01:48, 27 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What are you doing?

Although I obviously strongly disagree witht he IP users’ lack of civility towards others, they were not entirely wrong. You seem to be making a lot of weird moves, including creating blank talk and user pages for IPs, claiming other users are “open to trout slapping” and making bad reverts. None of that looks like it is helping the encyclopedia, instead it looks like you are just screwing around, and in some cases being disruptive. Maybe review WP:5 and rethink what it is you hope to accomplish here. Beeblebrox (talk) 15:48, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

ma bad. i will stop and keep those comments. Thewinrat (talk) 15:50, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Something to keep in mind

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Trouted

Whack!

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

You have been trouted for: how much i did was wrong

Trouted

Whack!

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

You have been trouted for: I still think the information about the timing of the Husker Du version of Eight Miles High is superfluous and not notable. It bloats the section. 218.102.199.73 (talk) 21:48, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your help desk question

You have a response.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:34, 16 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Huggle

Question: you say you use Huggle. How are you able to run Huggle without having rollback righths? I cannot even launch it without having rollback rights. Thanks in advance! SaltySaltyTears (talk) 22:33, 13 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Good question! well, what i do is that i go to huggle, when it says that i can not use the app when i do not have them, and it says that i can use the app in guest mode. so i click yes, then when

i found any type of vandalism, i go to that link that was vandalised, then revert it! kudos, Thewinrat (OS of this day: Ubuntu 4.10 (Warty Warhog) (talk) 00:46, 17 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks, and congrats!

Congratulations! You are the first user to use my "just dosen't get it" userbox!
Thanks, CrazyMinecart88 16:50, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Fan cheng cheng

WP:G5 only applies where the user was blocked before tha article was created. In practice this means that the user has been blocked and come back as a sockpuppet. That's not the case for Fan cheng cheng. WP:A7 would likely be rejected as he is listed in Idol Producer (season 1). I think your original tag of BLPPROD is the most likely to succeed. Hope that helps, Cabayi (talk) 20:12, 15 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Discospinster: as they deleted it anyway. I believe Cabayi is correct, unless there's something not in the block log indicating that this user was a sock from the getgo. Beeblebrox (talk) 06:04, 16 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, i think you are WP:Bite on the newly created articles in the new pages log. You are merely adding tags to articles within a minute of them being created. Some editors may still be improving their articles and your tags may discourage them. Give them a few minutes before adding tags Loved150 (talk) 17:34, 22 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

And you are still at it - this speedy deletion tag was added just three minutes after article creation. Please give editors time to add context before calling for speedy deletion based on your perceived (but in this case incorrect) lack of context. Your actions prevent this encyclopedia from being built, rather than help that process. Phil Bridger (talk) 18:26, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Don’t

Don’t copy anything from other webs until you read this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Copying_from_other_websites Wwepro126 (talk) 20:28, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have not even copied anything from any source and, in fact, has not even created a article before. Besides, i don't even know how to cite citations. I can't find citations, and can't find which one is wrong, or which one is right. All i know about them is that they prove something on the article. --TheWinRat (talk) 17:28, 28 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
TheWinRat, if you haven't yet learnt the fundamentals of Wikipedia, such as how to cite sources, then I would suggest that you refrain from marking other people's work by doing things such as deletion tagging. Phil Bridger (talk) 17:46, 28 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Competence is required

Hello, Thewinrat. Your question at the Teahouse about reporting editors for sockpuppetry has been answered by Cabayi and myself (see here). I am really confused by your actions; they don't seem very reasonable to me. Perhaps I'm missing something blindingly obvious, so can you explain, please? You can do that either here or at the Teahouse - it's up to you. Two minutes after your Teahouse post, you reported two different new users at WP:SPI (see here). Each editor had only one ever made one or two edits each, and each created new drafts (Draft:Himachal Abhi Abhi and Draft:Mahalaxmi municipile) They were created half an hour apart and both in Hindi. As I believe there are more than two Hindi-speakers in the world, is it not unreasonable for two such editors to simply coincide and make the mistake of posting a non-English article at roughly the same time? I fail to see why, at this time, you would conclude they were related as sockpuppets? The article contents seem totally unrelated, so I can't see how you'd conclude sockpuppetry just from seeing two consecutive entries on the Page Curation report, which was your rationale to SPI. To me, your Teahouse question, and then two minutes later at SPI, just wastes volunteer time and suggests a serious lack of understanding by you of how parts of Wikipedia works. Before reporting and accusing editors, you should acquire far more evidence of your suspicions yourself first - especially that which shows similar activity patterns before accusing brand new editors of sockpuppetry. You'll have seen that we have an editor interaction tool to compare the activities of two or more editors, and perhaps you should read the instructions at WP:SPI and look at older SPI reports to see how others have gathered their suspicions together and how they have reported them.

How do you think an immediate SPI notice on their userpages is going to make people feel welcome as new editors here? Because I have looked at your talkpage and have seen others editors expressing concerns about your lack of understanding in certain areas of Wikipedia, I am pasting this copy of my reply directly on your talk page, and advise you to step back before reporting more editors in this way. Please stick to less contentious area of editing and do read: Wikipedia:Competence is required. Nick Moyes (talk) 19:13, 6 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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I found NFL players article

What about the drafts? What can i do to help them? Why did you send me these drafts? Please tell me. --TheWinRat (talk) 16:45, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Make into a article — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:A000:140D:4316:A97E:32DB:770A:DB0D (talk) 16:49, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, but i dont have reviewer rights. I might get them when i have 500 edits on mainspace, but for now, i can't. --TheWinRat (talk) 16:51, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

BLP Sources

Mind explaining why you added a blp sources notice to an article where every line has a clear source? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shofet tsaddiq (talk • contribs) 20:30, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Because it will need more sources to prove it does exist, and its actions actually happened. 3 sources might not be enough sources for a Wikipedia article. --TheWinRatHere! 16:26, 15 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I added a source for her date of death. Adding this notice was not a good decision. Shofet tsaddiq (talk) 16:50, 15 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Well hey, you can now remove the BLP Notice. --TheWinRatHere! 16:52, 15 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
(after edit conflict) Thewinrat, your reply here shows why you should follow the advice that I gave earlier and stop passing judgement on other people's contributions until you have learnt the basics of Wikipedia yourself. The tag that you added said that there were statements in the article that were uncited, but this simply wasn't true. And I don't know how you managed to come to the conclusion that it hadn't been proven that she (not "it") did not exist, because the sources clearly show that. It's not a matter of the number of sources, but whether the content in the article was verified.
I would also point out that this edit was simply ridiculous, and I'm not surprised that the article creator thought that it was done by some automated process, because it seems pretty incredible that a human editor would conclude that that was a copyright violation.
I know that you mean well, but it would be much better if you concentrated on improving articles until you have learnt more about Wikipedia, rather than asking for advanced permissions and telling good editors that they are doing something wrong when they are not. Phil Bridger (talk) 17:04, 15 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Well, you are right. I should check if it were to be free or not to be free. You see, every time i see the copyvio issue in the page curration, and it is past 79 persent, i would just delete the article. I must stop that. I will stop that. I will only delete articles that has non free content. Im just gonna stop talking... --TheWinRatHere! 17:09, 15 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, Thewinrat. The black background on your signature makes it difficult to read. Do you think you could remove the black background? Thanks, Mz7 (talk) 22:37, 17 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Mz7:  Done --TheWinRatHere! 16:24, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Mz7 (talk) 22:45, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Mz7 (talk) 22:47, 17 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Originally, I had granted this right indefinitely. However, after a closer review of your contributions, it appears that you have a recent history of biting newcomers: see User talk:Thewinrat#Competence is required and User talk:Thewinrat#BLP Sources. As I believe that pending changes reviewer is one of the most lightweight and easily obtainable permissions any editor can receive, I won't revoke the right, but I am going to restrict it to a trial period of one month. After one month with the permission, if you wish to continue using the right, you may contact me or file a new request at Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Pending changes reviewer to extend the duration of the right. If you have any questions, feel free to let me know. All the best, Mz7 (talk) 23:00, 17 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion criteria

Hello, Thewinrat,

I saw that you tagged User:Epic game fixer page under CSD G5 criteria which is a tag for deleting pages created by a blocked editor. However, this criteria doesn't apply to pages created BEFORE an editor is blocked or AFTER a block is lifted. So, basically, this criteria applies to pages created by sockpuppets of a blocked editor. In this case, the editor created their user page before they were blocked so the criteria doesn't apply.

I see that you have received some criticism on your talk page as you pick up the many, complicated rules of editing Wikipedia. I would like to applaud you for your work welcoming new editors to Wikipedia. Even after years of editing and becoming an admin, I still usually spend some time each day welcoming new editors to the project. Because experienced editors can retire or drift away from active editing after years of work, Wikipedia relies on an influx of new editors each year and I think it makes a big difference when they receive a welcoming message on their talk page pointing out where they can go to learn about editing. It's impossible to tell which new editor will become the next active contributor so we might as welcome those who are just starting out! 20:39, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Just changed another that you tagged G1 (nonsense) which doesn't apply to foreign language articles, to A2 te:దక్షిణ తీరం రైల్వే జోన్. Cabayi (talk) 16:46, 27 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't...

...do stuff like this. Drmies (talk) 17:30, 27 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Draft:Puck Puppet Theatre

G5? DlohCierekim 16:42, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Deleted G5 --TheWinRatHere! 16:43, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

As you might have guessed I am new to Wikipedia, so whatever shortfall left in my editing is because of lack of experience or something like that. Thanks for pointing out the mistakes and the suggestions you provided. I expect to be guided and to be cooperated with. Ankur Jyoti Dewri (talk) 17:53, 6 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Still Aware

I did not make this with the intent of it being an advertisement of the organization. What should I need to change for it to not appear so "promotional"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by *Treker (talk • contribs)

 Deleted SD Notice --TheWinRatHere! 16:59, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! That's very nice of you.★Trekker (talk) 17:07, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Smiley You're welcome! --TheWinRatHere! 17:10, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Exotic pet pending changes

I see that you accepted an unexplained pending change that added whales to a list of examples of Exotic pets (and included other questionable changes). This list is a matter of ongoing dispute and it is the reason pending changes are enabled for that article. The issue is discussed on the Talk page. At least one IP has been blocked. I suggest to please try to pay more attention to what you are accepting. —BarrelProof (talk) 03:50, 12 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Orz... I did not know that a simple me accidentally accepting a vandal may cause a problem like this. I'd say, i would RPP the page to be semi-protected. --TheWinRatHere! 16:15, 12 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
OK, thanks for responding. I will do that. —BarrelProof (talk) 16:58, 12 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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WikiProject Apple Inc.

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Nice welcome

While it was very nice of you to welcome Isidorakovacevic in Russian, it would have been nicer to welcome her in Serbian, the language in which she has contributed. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:52, 28 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Tagging and other things

Adding tags like this to drafts is not helpful, particularly as most of these were created within hours of you tag bombing them in user or draft space. Additionally this is also not helpful and not even remotely true, this is on a draft that isn't even submitted, same here and I can keep going - stop adding irrelevant tags meant for mainspace on drafts which are clearly works in progress, it's bordering on disruptive. Praxidicae (talk) 17:09, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thewinrat Can you please respond to this? We generally do not add tags to draft articles (tags like these, anyway) as I've mentioned above, but you've continued to do so. And why are you adding tags to blocked users? If an admin has chosen not to, you definitely shouldn't be doing so. Praxidicae (talk) 17:50, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
And I'll also note that this is disruptive because it's confusing to new users submitting drafts when they're being given other templates and directions by experienced reviewers only to have their draft tag bombed with maintenance notifications meant for mainspace. Praxidicae (talk) 18:00, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, the cluelessness here, after so many have reached out with advice, is more than enough to go ahead and block. I didn't want it to come to this but it seems like the only solution at this point. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:09, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

your rollback request, and...everything else you are doing

You may notice my name popping up a lot in response to recent edits of yours. This is because I reviewed your bizarre request for rollback permissions and it prompted me to look deeper into your recent contributions. I do not belive you have sufficient maturity and/or English comprehension to be patrolling and evaluating the actions of other users. While you are not always in the wrong, there is an unacceptably high rate of error in your actions. You've been a fairly active user for seven months now, but I'm seeing the type of errors we usually see in brand-new users. In the last twenty minutes I've closed an SPI you filed as not needed, removed a category that is explicitly not meant to be used directly in articles, removed a {{tense}} tag that seemed misapplied, and observed numerous other errors that were already corrected by others, including a nonsensical report to UAA. And I haven't even made it through your last 100 contributions.

You mentioned being blocked in your rollback request, and at the time I thought that was just odd because I couldn't see blocking someone for posting a rollback request that was denied, but now I'm starting to think it might not be such a bad idea. I believe you are here in good faith and honestly trying to help, but you just don't seem to "get it".

I never enjoy saying this to anyone, but for whatever reason, it seems like editing Wikiepdia may not be the best activity for you. I'm just guessing here but I get the impression you are probably a young person, and maybe English isn't your first language. Being young is great. I wish I'd enjoyed it more. And learning a new language is awesome. If I'm right about that you're already way more proficient in English than I ever was when I studied German, but your comprehension level, both of the written word and of Wikipedia's policies, seems severly lacking. I really think you should consider the possibility that at this time this may not be something you're particularly good at. This is not to say you never will be, but the rate of errors you are making is creating work for others, often needlessly, and there's alrady way more real work to be done than can be kept up with.

Again, I'm sorry for being so blunt but I feel strongly it needed to be said. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:46, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the information, well, yes. I actually don't get it. I am a young person here in the Wikipedia (My age here is...finally state my real age. Don't judge.). I don't want to go political, but this is a certain Orz... situation i'm in right now. My eyes popped out when i got blocked for trying to bribe a Wikilove, and despite warnings. Well, basically in a nutshell, its like i'm a person breaking the rules in front of a drill Sargent every time i edit here. Yup, that's it. Everything else i would say would be too political, and i'm not that type of person. Thanks. (P.S. I don't get any sort of barn-stars, well, i got a smile, but that's all i got. (Also, i'm not begging for one, but one barn-star would be fine for me.) (Also also, I'm thinking about quiting this site, or be semi-active, but i don't think i would quit this site.) (Also also also, I have a big fear of getting banned. You know that one time when i was blocked, then spammed i'm sorry all over my talk page, that's a sign. i know its not that important, but its some thing i would like putting out here.) Anyways, kudos.) yup, i'm probably gonna be blocked again. --TheWinRatHere! 15:38, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe take a break from editing for a year or two. That way you wouldn't be blocked, you wouldn't have to worry about making mistakes, and you would also always know that you could come back to editing at some later time and it would probably be easier at that later time. MPS1992 (talk) 17:35, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@MPS1992: I might be able to do that, i will think about taking a wikibreak from 1 year, or, at least 11 months or something. Thanks for reminding me. --TheWinRatHere! 15:25, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent revert on Valentina Matviyenko

Hi, thanks for your recent revert of BLP-violating vandalism on Valentina Matviyenko. However, I thought you should know that by translating the Russian edit summary into English in your edit summary, you have introduced your own BLP violation in your edit summary. I have requested that this be reversion deleted (along with the original Russian edit), but thought I should let you know in case you notice it in your contributions history. Thanks, Gricehead (talk) 11:03, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

April 2019

Stop icon
You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for not seeming to be willing and/or able to understand Wikipedia policies and not willing/able to coherently communicate in English.
If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Beeblebrox (talk) 17:55, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oh dang. I did not have expected a block here. Well, fun times. Cheers. --TheWinRatHere! 20:05, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
That is not correct, you already said above i'm probably gonna be blocked again. My recommendation would be to create an entirely new account in about two years. And not to avoid the block on this account, because that will cause further problems and will also be obvious. Goodbye and good luck. MPS1992 (talk) 02:03, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Good luck to you too. Guess see you in 2021, maybe. --TheWinRatHere! 15:20, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
To be absolutely clear, MPS1992 is giving you horrible advice: that is a violation of the policy on the use of multiple accounts and we will block any new account you create while this account remains blocked for block evasion. If you wish to edit again, your only option is to follow the instructions above and appeal from this account. TonyBallioni (talk) 17:21, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
information Note: I would suggest that this user go to the Simple English Wikipedia or Vikidia, as those wikis use simple English, and Vikidia is designed for children. Rob3512 chat? what I did 17:48, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I would agree with Rob3512, contribute to other projects (on this account), and then we will be much more likely to unblock you if you ever appeal. I'd also encourage you to not add too much information about yourself on the internet. I've had to remove some of it from your userpage for your safety. TonyBallioni (talk) 18:05, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@TonyBallioni: Sure, i would like to contribute on other projects. Whats the most recommended project i should contribute on? --TheWinRatHere! 15:25, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Made 2 accounts

I have made 2 accounts on both Simple Wikipedia and Vikidia. The Vikidia account is right here and the simple english account is right here. Wish me luck. --TheWinRatHere! 15:54, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Vikidia account is about to get blocked as a Onestrike. Simple English will get warned as well. See ya. Dane|Geld 21:54, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
DaneGeld, this is uncalled for. Those are both independent of the English Wikipedia, and have their own policies and communities. – bradv🍁 22:47, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
DaneGeld that's not how onestrike works... Vermont (talk) 22:53, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
DaneGeld I advised Thewinrat to join those wikis because they are more suitable for him at his age. He isn't being purposefully disruptive here, so the onestrike policy on Simple Wiki doesn't apply, and there's no such policy (AFAIK) on Vikidia. Rob3512 chat? what I did 00:48, 23 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Let em just add here as the blocking admin that I agree that making constructive changes on another wiki is exactly the sort of thing that could help make an unblock appeal at some later date succeed, and it seems cruel and in bad faith to go after these accounts solely because of problems here. Beeblebrox (talk) 01:31, 23 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Well apparently my colleagues disagree with my decision to block him anyway, so whatever. His account is unblocked. I have nothing more to do with the matter. I disagree though with your sending people that you block here, elsewhere. This is why we now have JaySmith on Vikidia, pestering the hell out of us. Dane|Geld 07:20, 23 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
(after edit conflict) Thewinrat, please don't worry about DaneGeld's comment. It looks like pure trolling, and if it leads to anything it should be to DaneGeld being blocked here rather than any consequences for you. When I was your age I would certainly not have been able to contribute as well as you obviouly can to those other projects, and I am sure that there are very few people of your age who could do so. My one piece of advice would be to start off by improving some of the content, rather than getting involved in procedural issues such as article deletion or using advanced permissions. Phil Bridger (talk) 07:30, 23 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It's not trolling, Phil, it's the truth. Anyway, I've blocked myself over at the English Vikidia and told them to strip my user rights. Be damned if I'm going to see all the people you block here get sent for everyone else to deal with. And yes, this is incivility, so you can block me here too. Dane|Geld 07:38, 23 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
If only Vikidia had a WP:DIVA page, huh? 😉 ——SerialNumber54129 07:42, 23 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Vikidia can have whatever it wants. I just won't be part of making it or tidying up when it goes wrong :) Anyway, enough gibbering. I'm off. Dane|Geld 07:58, 23 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Phil Bridger But something happened to my Vikidia account. It seems to be blocked by DaneGeld in the 22nd of April. Then it was unblocked by Magasin3 for the summary "this person did not vandalize on Vikidia. Leave him a chance." Then, after a while, it gets blocked again by the Magasin3 again without any summary. MediaWiki is strange sometimes. --TheWinRatHere! 15:32, 23 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Vikidia is not a Wikimedia wiki. Praxidicae (talk) 15:38, 23 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oh sorry, i meant MediaWiki. --TheWinRatHere! 15:41, 23 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Vikidia, which is what you're referring to (DaneGeld doesn't have admin permissions on any Wikimedia wiki), is not affiliated with Wikipedia or any other Wikimedia projects. Here isn't the best place to ask about that. Thanks, Vermont (talk) 21:15, 23 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A formal apology to you

I want to apologize to you, Thewinrat@, for the way I have behaved both here and at Vikidia. When I initially blocked you, it was because I'd assumed (wrongly) that you'd been blocked as a vandal or something bad.

Other users here have clearly told me off and expressed that I should not have blocked you, and they're right. I have unblocked you at Vikidia and apologized to my colleagues there for my behavior. It's wrong for me to expect other people to tow my line without question.

I also recognize that I have given Vikidia and its community a big black eye by giving you a bad view of what we do. I will understand if you do not wish to return; I would not blame you if you didn't, but it's my fault that you have that view.

Please consider coming back and using the service. As I say, you're unblocked and I've made sure other staff know what I've done and why.

I also apologizes to Phil Bridger and others for my comments and gestures towards them too. My judgement and behavior were both very poor and I do deserve to be blocked here as Phil rightly said. I was rude and incivil and others would get the same.

With warm regards, Dane|Geld 00:29, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unblock Request Comment

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Thewinrat (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I think i am ready to be unblocked. I have been editing alot on the simple english wikipedia, welcoming users, fixing errors, but the thing is, i think i can get around with WP:CIR. I've been looking at the WP:CIR page on the simple english wikipedia. And i think im ready to be unblocked. Block or Unblock, do what you want to do. TheWinRatHere! 19:09, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

This unblock request has been declined due to your history of vandalism and/or disruption to this encyclopedia. However, we are willing to give you another chance provided that you can earn back the trust of the Wikipedia community. To be unblocked you need to demonstrate that you are willing and able to contribute positively to Wikipedia. You can do this by:

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  • When you are done with your work, re-request unblocking and an administrator will review your proposed edits.
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If you need help while working with your proposed edits, you may add "{{Help me|your question here ~~~~}}" to your talk page. Thank you. Yamla (talk) 01:04, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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What do you want to edit about if unblocked? 331dot (talk) 19:32, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@331dot: I might help draft pages and pages that were newly made. I may revert vandalism and welcome new users, or tattle the vandals on ARV or UAA. I might help articles by fixing punctuation errors if i ever find one. And i'll stop tagging draft pages. --TheWinRatHere! 15:28, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not an admin but considering you're asking to be unblocked just so you can engage in the exact areas you were blocked due to incompetence in doesn't seem particularly compelling to me. Praxidicae (talk) 16:49, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Praxidicae: The thing is, i dont know what really can. --TheWinRatHere! 16:55, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
information Non-admin comment Honestly, I would suggest leaving the clerking and maintaining for a bit, since that's what got you blocked for...well, incompetence. Choose a topic you're interested in, look for its WikiProject (there's bound to be one), and look through their to-do list. Look for articles with issues and start from there. Rob3512 chat? what I did 06:27, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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