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Please comment on Talk:Kosovo

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Philip H. Bucksbaum: and others

Among you generally very good AfC reviews, I see some recent problems, mainly with respect to your failure to recognize cases for WP:PROF. This is an alternative to the GNG, and requires meeting only any one of the criteria specified there. Among them:

  1. I'm not sure why you declined Bucksbaum on the bssis of having inadequate references. Every detail is referenced. Though some parts of it are based on sources that would not be reliable for notability , even sources derived from the person himself are acceptable for the routine biographical facts. The sources that establish notability according to WP:PROF are certainly referenced with excellent 3rd party sources. (And note that he mets several criteria of WP:PROF asides from the one for being an expert in his field--named professorship at major university, member of he National Academy of Sciences, President of the Optical Society of America.)
  2. For Philip James Ayres similarly, though not quite as dramatically notable.
  3. For Darcia Narvaez similarly, with the added factor of NAUTHOR. I have not yet accepted this one because I suspect copypaste & it may need to be rewritten.
  4. For Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Touro university worldwide, you similarly ask for 3rd party sources, but all universities are considered notable

I notice you're asking for better referencing for the routine facts of someone's life. We have always accepted sources derived from the person himself for these, unless they are contested or look unlikely. Nor do we need inline citations for these (with of course the same limitations). DGG ( talk ) 19:09, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, DGG, for your comments and detailed advice. I guess I had a few misconceptions about professors' works and bio in general. Especially the derivation of basic biographical facts from the person itself. You're wonderful. theonesean 19:16, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
that doesn't mean we don't check them--when it look dubious, I check that anyone being referred to as professor is a full professor, not an assistant professor or associate professor, I check that 'taught at" means they had a regular job, not a teaching assistant in grad school, I check that publications claimed as books are books and not pamphlets, or book chapters, and that articles mean peer-reviewed articles in journals. A day or two ago I just removed a claimed professorship from an article because I could find absolutely zero documentation, And once I found a false claim to a PhD. And of course, what always has to be checked is copyvio. If it sounds formally written and I don;t see the source, I normally make at least a few changes just in case. I see you using similar judgement in areas you clearly know a great deal about,articles I've learned better than to touch--I will normally not decline or speedy anything in sports or popular culture unless it looks utterly obvious. At the start, I made a few very conspicuous errors thinking I could handle anything. DGG ( talk ) 01:53, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
Copyvio, thou art a heartless bitch. You're very right, it's extremely important (because legal stuff). I've found that the highest proportion of copyvios are for corporations, because of the low-hanging fruit of the company website. But thanks for your advice and anecdotes. Have a great day, theonesean 20:31, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

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Resubmission - Ben Schwartz

Theonesean,

I am reaching out to let you know I resubmitted the entry for Ben Schwartz. You had rejected the submission due to lack of notability, however the entry meets the necessary notability criteria.

For instance, Ben Schwartz:

- has been the subject of multiple published secondary sources including CNBC, the New York Times, BBC, the Washington Post, and CNN Money which are all reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject

- under "Additional Criteria," his firm received numerous awards significant to his industry most recently including "Best for Frequent Traders" in Barron's 2013 Best Online Brokers Survey

- primary sources reflect his current position and his various commentaries across multiple reliable news outlets showing his notability in his specific field


Please let me know if I can provide further information. Thank you.


Chris

Cmulka11 (talk) 18:08, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know, Chris. I'm sure it will be re reviewed in due time. Cheers, theonesean 00:41, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Welspun Energy

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TB and AfC thanks, Al Berkowitz

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Hi! Thanks for reviewing my article (Al Berkowitz). I'm new on this but I hope I can help to build this wonderful site up. Cheers!

It's my pleasure. Thanks for contributing! If you ever need any help, don't hesitate to contact me. Thanks. theonesean 17:59, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

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AfC Mentoring!

Hello! I signed up! I'm excited. Are you going to kick it in anytime soon?? (My friend Technical 13 said to poke you. So I am!) JSFarman (talk) 17:24, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Hey, JSFarman, thanks for dropping me a line. Yes, the course itself is in the final stages of development. I'm going to need lots and lots of beta testers before it will be ready to go live though. Check back on that page, I'm going to create a list of things that need to be done to finish it. Thanks, you're awesome, theonesean 23:28, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Dan Haerle

Hello and Welcome Back, Theonesean, I am resubmitting my article on Dan Haerle for your review. I have gone through and made many of the edits you suggested and also provided additional documentation. I feel that it now meets Wikipedia standards. Please take a few minutes to review it at your leisure and (hopefully) approve it for publication. Thanks, MMyers6167 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mmyers6167 (talk • contribs) 15:50, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Mike, I'll take a look at it pretty soon. thetwosean 16:26, 13 August 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thetwosean (talk • contribs)

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Eurovision

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[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Nadim KaramNadim Karam (talk) 12:19, 14 August 2013 (UTC))

To Whom it May Concern,

We have been patiently awaiting your response to our recent submission of "Nadim Karam", which was submitted on July 27th, 2013. We understand that given the number of submissions each week that there may be delays. However, if there is an issue with the submission, we would appreciate it if you would please inform us as soon as possible. Otherwise, we look forward to your reply and having our article enter the Wikipedia universe.

Best Regards, Martine Kiwan

Martine, it's not good for the same reviewer to review an article over and over again. I've resubmitted the article for you, so it should be reviewed again in due time. theonesean 23:54, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

A Barnstar for You!

The AFC Backlog Buster Barnstar

Congratulations, Theonesean! You're receiving the Tireless Contributor Barnstar because you reviewed 146 articles during the recent AFC Backlog elimination drive! Thank you for you contributions to Wikipedia at-large and helping to keep the backlog down. We hope you continue reviewing submissions and stay in touch at the talk page. Thank you and keep up the good work! Mdann52 (talk) 17:25, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! This goes on my awards page! theonesean 20:39, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Pythagoras Lodge No. 41, Free and Accepted Masons

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Musician article approval

Please check my queries on my talk page.

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Hello, what will it take to get an article created for this prominent NYC musician? There are hundreds of other musicians within the Wikipedia universe with less credit to their name, and less sourced material, making them absolutely less notable than this musician I'm trying to submit an article for. Even when I've tried copying the format/sources of a different musician on Wikipedia with the same scope of credit/involvement in the music scene, this page has gotten rejected again. Any help is truly appreciated.

Thanks Creepshows

I'll reply on your page. theonesean 20:31, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

AfC

Ping. Do you have anything that can bee seen yet? If not, I'd be happy to do it my self modeled on the new CVUA I made some while ago. It really only involves copying the project and changing some of the text. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:06, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I have a good portion of it done off-wiki. I posted a few help requests on the WT:AFC, and there's a to-do list (link at the top) on the main project page. If you want to help out, that's probably the best way to do it. I would like to see your CVUA, just to compare notes. Thanks for the offer, though, and thanks for your help. theonesean 01:12, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
WP:CVUA - it's part of a suite of training/adoption pages that have the same feel and look for consistency across the site. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:28, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
That's awesome. Would you like to co-develop the program? Your experience would be a great resource. I especially like the idea of coming up with a specific set of requirements - should probably make sure that the mentors were significantly experienced. Would you like to discuss it? I'll be in IRC: #wikipedia-en-afc connect. Thanks so much. theonesean 01:41, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
The mentors is indeed a specific issue. The reason I closed down the old CVUA and created a new one was because it was a question of the blind leading the blind, and the whole thing had become a MMPORG for younger and/or inexperienced users. I have always had a strong set of principles about IRC and that's why I have never used it once in all my years here. Even more so since one admin was recently desyoped for his abuse of it. It also never coincides with my time zone. I would be happy to discuss it over the transparency of a normal talk page somewhere. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:55, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
I admire your steadfastness - to be completely honest I just use it for convenience. I'd be glad to discuss this with you on the main project talk page. theonesean 02:09, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, Tech13. I'll keep that in mind. And thanks for the info about cloaks. I'm going to request one tomorrow, if I manage to get any time to myself. Busy busy busy... theonesean 05:36, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/RfC Reviewer permission

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Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (geographic names)

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My Edits at AfC aren't sticking

Did I have my reviewer status rescinded or something? Every time I've edited and reviewed an article today I get a message that says "edit failed' when I save. I'm confused. Do you have any insight? I have no idea how to figure this out! Thanks. JSFarman (talk) 00:35, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Um, Ok, it looks like an article I accepted and moved into the mainspace (through AfC templates) didn't have the templates for AfC removed. I just deleted them from the article and maybe it'll all be back to normal. As if. (This is why I need the Mentorship :))JSFarman (talk) 00:46, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
JSFarman, I'm not sure why this is happening. You should probably bring it up at the AfC talk page. If I find anything, I'll let you know, but for now, ask over there. Thanks for contacting me though. theonesean 01:25, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks boss!JSFarman (talk) 01:40, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

No, thank you! theonesean 01:45, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

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