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Your submission at Articles for creation: Loyal Society of Orange and Blew (May 27)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Liance was:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

The comment the reviewer left was:

On Wikipedia, all stated facts should be supported by a citation to a reliable source. Currently, portions of this draft are unsourced - please add necessary citations before resubmitting. Thank you.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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~Liance^talk 23:20, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Sheckles384! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! ~Liance^talk 23:20, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome!

Thanks for creating a draft!

Hello Sheckles384, welcome to Wikipedia! My name is Liance, and I've been editing here for a while. I wanted to thank you for submitting Draft:Loyal Society of Orange and Blew to WikiProject Articles for Creation and helping to grow the encyclopedia! We appreciate your contributions and hope you stick around. I can see you've already started writing draft articles, so here are a few more resources that might be helpful:

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I highly recommend visiting The Teahouse if you are unsure about anything Wiki related. It's a place where experienced editors answer questions and assist newcomers in the editing process. In addition, please do not hesitate to reach out on my talk page if you have any specific questions. Once again, welcome! I hope you enjoy your time here. ~Liance^talk 23:20, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Liance, many thanks for the reply. I am new to wiki but willing to learn. I fully understand your point on referencing, I did include all the references that are known for this society (it's a subject not really discovered which is why I am trying to make a historical document for it). I did link ALL the members names to wiki pages in existence and I did link subject content battle of boyne, culladon etc to their respective wiki sites also. If I am reading this correctly, rather than linking to the wiki page, you would rather I use some of their references instead? Surely this is a duplicated effort? I have pictures of the 1801 list, real medals and members pictures in my possession, but for whatever reason if I try and upload one I keep getting an error message saying I can't do it. So don't understand why that is. They are also not published pictures so what good is a reference?

Let me know on the references as I can add hundreds for each battle and member, but it's rather silly considering what I am trying to achieve. Once the article is accepted, I will go to each member listed and add a line about their membership of the Orange and Blew and link it accordingly but can't do that without a page to refer to.

Any assistance would be appreciated.

Thanks

Paul Sheckles384 (talk) 14:15, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sheckles384 - yes, on Wikipedia we require information to be verifiable so you are required to include citations to external, reliable, secondary sources. You don't necessarily need to do so for every entry in a list but any stated facts should be cited. I see that you have supplemented the content with references since my last review so I will allow another editor to take a look now, it is a great improvement. Hope this helps. ~Liance^talk 17:21, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Loyal Society of Orange and Blew (May 28)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted because it included copyrighted content, which is not permitted on Wikipedia.

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🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 18:44, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

May 2024

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Lieutenant Colonel Robert Anwyll

Lieutenant Colonel Robert Anwyll (Fig 1) (1780 - 27 June 1831) was an Army Officer of the 4th (Kings Own) Regiment of Foot who was awarded for Gallantry in the Peninsular War in 1814.

Robert was born in Merionethshire, Wales. He joined the Military as an Ensign in the Merioneth Militia 2 Mar 1798. He was dispatched on the Helder Expedition on 27 August 1799 and was wounded in the attack in the Zhyder-Zee Battle.

Promoted to Lieutenant 4ht (Kings Own) Regiment of Foot 27 October 1799, he was initiated into the regiments Loyal and Friendly Society of Orange and Blew on 1 July 1800 and awarded the medal in Figure 2.

Sheckles384 (talk) 01:27, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Lieutenant Colonel Robert Anwyll (May 29)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Buidhe was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

As far as I can tell there is no WP:GNG coverage. Most of the sources were published by his employer or close affiliates (including Cowper 1939). I could find no mention of Anwyll in the Harvey book. Homfray, and I assume Gordon, are just passing mentions/database entries insufficient to count towards notability.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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(t · c) buidhe 23:29, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree with this assessment, not only is the recipient worthy of an article due to the battles, awards and historical value, it also has more references than a lot of articles I have seen published on Wiki (Sir Robert Rich, 5th Baronet is a prime example of this). The whole experience with Wiki has been degrading, disillusioned and quite frankly arrogant responses by some of the editorial ream, I am disgusted! Denying Historical content is akin to sticking your head in the sand and going la la de la la Sheckles384 (talk) 08:38, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Homfray, and I assume Gordon, are just passing mentions/database entries insufficient to count towards notability. This statement alone has just made every secondary source on Wiki irrelevant and on that basis 98% of all wiki articles should be culled. Sheckles384 (talk) 08:50, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]