User talk:Rjwilmsi/Archives/2012/September

AWB mistakes

• Some AWB edits of yours on Sep 1 have been making changes inside quotations. Such as in History of Florida. Of course, we are supposed to leave quotations intact, regardless of their English or MOS rules. AWB is not safe in understanding what are quotes and does not bypass them. Hmains (talk) 04:45, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
  • Or change names of books, articles, etc Hmains (talk) 04:47, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
    • Three answers to this: firstly that MOS:QUOTE says "Trivial spelling or typographical errors should be silently corrected (for example, correct ommission to omission, harasssment to harassment)—unless the slip is textually important." so I see no issue with correcting decade apostrophes within quotes unless the quote is specifically about this kind of typography/date. Secondly, I don't believe there are any quality sources that would have an incorrect decade apostrophe in a page/article/book title. Thirdly, on this specific case, if you access [1] (this is the permanent link it gives, though it seems to redirect to the search page, so click browse, then next and volume 6 issue 2 is second in grid) and download the PDF then on page 34 of the PDF you'll see that the title uses "1920s" without the incorrect apostrophe. What's your source to say it's "1920's"? Rjwilmsi 09:28, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
      • OK, I understand. I was assuming that the WP editors copied the quote correctly. Not to be assumed it see. Still, I see lots of sources (quality or not, WP referencs them) in which book/article/whatever names are wrong in one way or another. Writers are not always careful or well-educated but I doubt anyone wants to be re-researhing all these names. Hmains (talk) 17:56, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

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Possibly out of date but here goes

Hi, I was wondering if you could train your esteemed bot to compare people birth and death dates when it populates persondata and check their age is not negative? ϢereSpielChequers 19:34, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Here's data from the July 2012 database dump. It seems you've already fixed a number of these. I'll save the query and make it part of my persondata work to check for new occurrences. Rjwilmsi 12:37, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Articletitle	DOB	YOD	DOD	YOD
Ada Copeland King	23 December 1860?	1860	14 April 196	196
Addai II Giwargis	2009-11-0	2009	1 August 1950	1950
Adriano Irala	July 21, 1984	1984	August 18, 1933	1933
Al Atkinson (baseball)	March 9, 1961	1961	June 17, 1952	1952
Alajos Szokolyi	1971-06-19	1971	1932-09-09	1932
Albert Craig (rhymester)	September 2, 1949	1949	July 8, 1909	1909
Alberto O. Treganza	24 March 1976	1976	18 July 1944	1944
Alfred Reade Godwin-Austen	1989-04-16	1989	1963-03-20	1963
Allan Beekman	January 16, 1913	1913	October 29, 200	200
Alois Hitler	7 June 2009	2009	3 January 1010	1010
Angela Truszkowska	May 16, 1898	1898	October 10, 1825	1825
Ann Shipley	April 8, 1999	1999	March 22, 1981	1981
Artemas Martin	August 3, 1835	1835	November 7, 1818	1818
Arthur Dixon (footballer, born 1892)	1 January 1982	1982	25 December 1965	1965
Auguste Escoffier	28 October 2012	2012	12 February 1935	1935
Beatrice Varley	11 July 1986	1986	4 July1964	1964
Benjamin P. Birdsall	October 26, 1858	1858	May 26, 1840	1840
Bird Segle McGuire	October 13, 1965	1965	November 9, 1930	1930
Boris Ledkovsky	9 May 1894	1894	6 August 1875	1875
Bríet Bjarnhéðinsdóttir	September 27, 1856	1856	March 16, 1740	1740
Carrie Derick	January 14, 1862	1862	November 10, 1111	1111
Cesária Évora	27-08-1941	2027	17-12-2011	2017
Charles Russell (rugby)	5 December 1884	1884	15 May 195	195
Charlie Ferguson (1880s pitcher)	April 17, 1963	1963	April 29, 1888	1888
Cotton Minahan	December 10, 1982	1982	May 20, 1958	1958
Dick Purcell	August 6, 1988	1988	April 10, 1944	1944
Dionisio de Herrera	9 October 1871	1871	13 June 1850	1850
Donal McLaughlin	July 26, 2012	2012	September 27, 2009	2009
E. S. Babcock	May 1, 1948	1948	September 1, 1922	1922
Edward Abramowski	17 August 1868	1868	21 June	0
Edward Seymour, 1st Earl of Hertford	22 May 2011	2011	6 April 1621	1621
Einar Jónsson	May 11, 1874	1874	October 18, 195	195
Elijah Pitts	February 3, 1938	1938	July 10, 1898	1898
Elvir Rahimić	4 April 1976	1976	5	0
Emily Stowe	May 1, 1831	1831	April 30, 1203	1203
Emory S. Foster	December 23, 1902	1902	November 5, 1839	1839
Ewan Cameron	31 July 1992	1992	21 March 1921	1921
Francisco Arcellana	September 6, 2012	2012	August 1, 2002	2002
Frank Miles	15 July 1891	1891	22 April 1852	1852
Friedrich von Gärtner	December 10, 1971	1971	April 21, 1847	1847
Galliano Rossini	1927-05-17	1927	1097-11-13	1097
Garth Fundis	10 April 1966	1966	10 April 199	199
Gayle Porter Hoskins	July 20, 1887	1887	January 14, 1862	1862
Geoffrey Anketell Studdert Kennedy	27 June 27 1883	2027	8 March 1929	1929
George "Geordie" Ridley	10-02-1835	2010	09-09-1864	2009
George Appleton	19 April 1996	1996	28 August 1993	1993
George Bethune English	October 25, 1998	1998	September 20, 1828	1828
George Frederick Bristow	19 December 1925	1925	13 December 1898	1898
George Palliser	11 January 1919	1919	25 September	0
George William Andrews (Canadian politician)	September 9, 1969	1969	November 5, 1943	1943
Gerhard Cyliax	23 August 2934	2934	17 May 2008	2008
Gertrude Pritzi	15 January 1920	1920	1	0
Gheorghe Taşcă	January 30, 1875	1875	March 25, 1851	1851
Gilles Rocheleau	28 August 2935	2935	27 June 1998	1998
Gordon Thomas Whyburn	7 January 1904	1904	8 September	0
Hans Wolff	24 September 2000	2000	16 May 1918	1918
Harry Blackburne	1878-01-25	1878	1863-05-31	1863
Harvey Hendrick	November 9, 1987	1987	October 29, 1941	1941
Herbert Breslin	May 17, 2012	2012	October 1, 1924	1924
Hermann Lux	3 September 1904	1904	8 July 199	199
Hermon Dexter	2 May 1977	1977	31 January 1961	1961
Howard R. Barr	February 15, 2010	2010	March 31, 2002	2002
Humfrey Wanley	21 March 1967	1967	6 July 1726	1726
Icilio Guareschi	24 December 1247	1247	20 June 1118	1118
Ida Rentoul Outhwaite	9 June 1988	1988	25 June 1960	1960
István Gyulai	March 21, 1943	1943	March 12, 206	206
Jai Pal Singh	13 May 1930	1930	24 September	0
Jaime Escalante	December 31, 3000	3000	March 30, 2010	2010
James Chataway	6 September 2021	2021	12 April 1901	1901
James Fraser (bishop)	August 18, 1888	1888	October 22, 1885	1885
Jan Goossen	09-10-1937	2009	01-01-2005	2001
Jean Fontenay	23-05-1911	2023	21-05-1975	2021
Joan Hodgman	September 7, 1923	1923	December 7, 1902	1902
Joe Bratcher	July 22, 1898	1898	October 13, 1877	1877
Joel Rosenberg (science fiction author)	May 1, 1954	1954	June 2, 1000	1000
John Arthur Gellatly	July 6, 1869	1869	July 18, 1863	1863
John Carroll (actor)	July 17, 1991	1991	April 24, 1979	1979
John Dunne (bishop)	8 June 1985	1985	22 August 1919	1919
John McGreevey	21 december 1922	1922	24 November 210	210
John Otto Siegel	November 1, 1973	1973	September 27, 1918	1918
John Peters (shortstop)	April 8, 1950	1950	January 4, 1924	1924
John T. Thompson	February 05, 1992	1992	June 21, 1940	1940
John Teague	2000-04-16	2000	25 October 1902	1902
John Van Nest Talmage	18 August 1919	1919	19 August 1892	1892
Joseph, Count Kinsky	22 February 2010	2010	7 February 1804	1804
Joshua Hall	August 11, 1994	1994	December 25, 1862	1862
Jules Antoine Lissajous	March 4, 20001	2000	June 24, 1880	1880
Julien Tiersot	5 July 1857	1857	10 August 1836	1836
Karan Singh Grover	23 February 1982	1982	23 feb	0
Karl-Hermann Lion	5 November 2911	2911	2 May 1994	1994
Kathy Kirby	1938-10-20	1938	011-05-19	11
Kazushige Ugaki	August 9, 1868	1868	April 30, 195	195
Keene Fitzpatrick	December 25, 1864	1864	May 22, 194	194
Kitty Wells	August 30, 1919	1919	August 30, 1918	1918
Len Andrews	9 December 1988	1988	21 January 1969	1969
Len Carlson	September 2, 1937	1937	January 26, 200	200
Leonard Slater	11 October 1975	1975	14 September 1914	1914
Letitia Christian Tyler	November 12, 2010	2010	September 10, 1842	1842
Lucius Quintus Cincinnatus Lamar I	July 15, 2050	2050	July 4, 1834	1834
Mae Capone	April 11, 1994	1994	April 16, 1986	1986
Malcolm Henry Ellis	21-09-1890	2021	18-01-1969	2018
Mani Shankar	19-11-1968	2019	12-01-2012	2012
Manohar Vartak	29-11-1926	2029	21-06-1997	2021
Mason Scott	20 December 1965	1965	1 June 1916	1916
Maurice Duplessis	April 20, 1890	1890	September 7, 1864	1864
Michael Gibbs (priest)	1 September 1900	1900	27 July 196	196
Mohammad Mosaddegh	16-6-1882	2016	05-03-1967	2005
Nima Yooshij	November 1, 2012	2012	January 6, 1960	1960
Omid Ravankhah	10 April 1985	1985	1 Jan 1000	1000
Otto Lilienthal	May 23, 2010	2010	August 10, 1896	1896
Paul Robert Bing	5 May 1878	1878	15 March 1856	1856
Peadar Maher	1 February 1924	1924	31 January 201	201
Peter Bronfman	October 2, 1929	1929	December 1, 1867	1867
Peter Warlock	30 October 1984	1984	17 December 1930	1930
Philo Carpenter	February 5, 2027	2027	August 7, 1886	1886
Prakash Raj	26 March 1965	1965	06aug01965	196
Rajinder Singh	25 May 1872	1872	8 November 1700	1700
Ray Miller (first baseman)	December 16, 1975	1975	April 7, 1927	1927
Reginald Leonard Haine	12 June 1982	1982	10 July 1896	1896
Richard Lewis (bishop of Llandaff)	27 March 1821	1821	24 January 190	190
Robert Campbell Gunn	4 April 1898	1898	14 March 1881	1881
Robert Nugent (officer)	June 27, 1824	1824	June 20, 1801	1801
Robert O'Halloran	6 June 1988	1988	1 December 1974	1974
Roger Wolcott Sperry	August 20, 2009	2009	April 17, 1994	1994
Roland Barthes	12 November 1915	1915	25 February	0
Rowland Harrison	23-06-1841	2023	09-06-1897	2009
Russell Winnicott	24 May 1918	1918	6 December 1917	1917
Sam LaRocque	February 26, 1963	1963	June 5, 1933	1933
Sam Treiman	November 30, 1999	1999	May 27, 1925	1925
Samuel Plimsoll	10 February 1824	1824	3 June 1666	1666
Sean Devereux	25 November 1964	1964	2 January 1901	1901
Skilly Williams	January 4, 1980	1980	June 19, 1959	1959
Stefan Askenase	10 July 1896	1896	18 October 1895	1895
Sveinn Björnsson	27 February 1881	1881	25 January 1742	1742
Sydney Elliott Napier	26 December 1970	1970	3 May 1940	1940
Tashi Namgyal	October 26, 1983	1983	December 2, 1963	1963
Teodor Burada	2 October 1989	1989	17 February 1923	1923
Thomas Wilson (poet)	14-11-1773	2014	09-05-1858	2009
Toad Ramsey	August 8, 1964	1964	March 27, 1906	1906
Tom Lanning	April 22, 1907	1907	November 4, 0167	167
Tom Reece	20 August 1988	1988	26 October 1953	1953
Tom Whittington	29 July 1981	1981	19 July 1944	1944
Tsuda Sen	October 17, 1929	1929	April 24, 1908	1908
Val Pinchbeck	February 16, 1931	1931	March 6, 200	200
Venero Armanno	19 August 1959	1959	19 August	0
Vlas Chubar	10 February 1981	1981	26 February 1939	1939
Ward Hawkins	29-12-1912	2029	22-12-1990	2022
Wilibald Gurlitt	March 1, 1981	1981	December 15, 1963	1963
William Allen (governor)	December 1, 2018	2018	July 11, 1879	1879
William Henry Meadowcroft	1951-05-29	1951	1937-10-15	1937
William J. Olcott	February 22, 1962	1962	April 29, 1935	1935
William Stephenson (senior)	28-06-1763	2028	12-08-1836	2012
Willy Riedel	10 November 1909	1909	10 February 1882	1882
Wilma Cozart Fine	29 March 2011	2011	21 September 2009	2009

Thanks, I've fixed a few more. But there seems to be a load error on that database, it is mishandling yyyy-mm-dd dates. ϢereSpielChequers 22:43, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Typo profiling and long rules

I've been checking the results of profiling typos for List of Doctor Who universe creatures and aliens in typos.txt and noticed that sometimes certain rules are fast but on other occasions they are relatively slow i.e take 10 times longer then its fast time. The rules that have this erraticness are ones that are longer in construction. Is there some issue with long rules over and above the time it takes to execute them? I just wanted to check before I commit more time to creating highly effective rules that are long. Regards, Sun Creator^(talk) 01:02, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Any ideas? Do you know who might know or who could find out? Regards, Sun Creator^(talk) 23:52, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Which rules show wide variations in speed? Is this within the same AWB session (i.e. same set of typo rules)? Rjwilmsi 07:04, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

The "self-" rule was the one I noticed, but there are others but not so varied at that one. It's the same rule, hasn't changed for a while now, and within the same session. I can imagine there is some background windows system process that happens at a point the rule is running but why it more often occurs on the "self-" rule is a mystery. Regards, Sun Creator^(talk) 23:51, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

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