User talk:Paroma Bhat

November 2015

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Prashant Kishor

Hi Paroma, welcome to Wikipedia. I just saw your comment on Tito Dutta's talkpage.

First off let me say that I understand your concerns about the Prashant Kishor article; I too want it to be as accurate as possible. To this end, I have already removed that he worked for WHO, corrected IPAC's name, and changed his birth year. However reverting the article to your version is not the best solution; for one, it was not written with a neutral point of view, nor did it meet Wikipedia's prose and style guidelines. Further, many of the assertions you made were not backed by references to reliable sources (reputed newspapers, magazines, journals, books etc), which violates our core policy of verifiability.

Most importantly, since it appears that you are an associate/colleague of Mr. Kishor's, please look at our conflict of interest guideline, which strongly discourages "contributing to Wikipedia about yourself, family, friends, clients, employers, or your financial or other relationships."

I instead recommend that you put up details of Mr. Kishor's background—date and place of birth, education and employment background, parents names, native place etc (naming these specifically since you say they are inaccurate in the article)—on his or IPAC's official website. I will then cite this page and use it as a reference in the Wikipedia article. IMO such a page will also increase the accuracy of media reports about Mr. Kishor.—indopug (talk) 06:06, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

• These are good suggestions. please follow it, let us know if you have any question. --Tito Dutta (talk) 06:32, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

• Thank you both for your responses. While I appreciate your feedback I do have fundamental disagreements with what you're calling a conflict of interest. I am citing neutral sources from respectable publications so I fail to understand why they shouldn't be incorporated. I request you both to consider the following points:

(1) Prashant Kishor first came to public attention in 2012 itself when he was profiled by journalist Harit Mehta for the Times of India "Extremely low-profile, he made a quiet entry and soon started calling the shots from the CM's residence. Even close Modi aides are directed first to him. Advises Modi on every election related issue"

(2)Nilanjan Mukhopadhyay, author of 'Narendra Modi: The Man, The Times' said Kishor was one of the most important people in Modi's team driving strategies for months before 2014 elections. "The strategies by him and his group galvanised the middle class and upper middle class to vote for BJP. It was their efforts that sold Modi as a moderate leader focussed on development, a 'Vikas Purush', thereby shedding his image of an aggressive Hindu right wing leader."

(3)The page as it stands right now also does not do justice to CAG's work in the LS campaign. Here's what I had paraphrased from the newspaper articles. Do tell me why this should not be incorporated?

The group has been credited with conceptualizing and executing the most successful components of Modi campaign - Manthan brought together 7,000 students from India's leading colleges, following a nationwide contest for policy ideas that ran for three months, through which Modi himself sat for an upwards of 8 hours straight The famous Statue of Unity movement – Modi’s pledge to build the world's tallest statue of Sardar Patel by collecting 700 tonnes of iron from five lakh villages which aimed to set half a dozen Guinness world records was driven by CAG “CAG ran a research wing that produced talking points for Modi as he crisscrossed the country. It organized the Run for Unity, which now claims the world record for the largest number of people running and walking at the same time… When Congress leader Mani Shankar Aiyer took a dig at Modi’s background selling tea at railway stations, the folks at CAG quickly conceptualized an event they called Chai pe Charcha (a conversation over tea), a video conference spread across 1,000 tea stalls, turning the critical remark into political capital. In Uttar Pradesh, the CAG implemented the Modi Aane Wala Hai (Modi’s arrival is imminent) campaign, in which some 400 video vans took Modi’s speeches to thousands of villages that are deemed to be part of a so-called dark zone, where mass-media penetration is poor. It also planned the schedule of the final thrust, the Bharat Vijay rallies, during which Modi spoke at three or four venues in a single day, and was projected by 3D holographic image to 100 locations simultaneously”

(4) And then of course there are inaccuracies like Prashant Kishor "founding" the CAG and IPAC. Both organisations have founding members, and Prashant isn't one of them. It's definitely his brainchild and he continues to mentor them on a day to day basis, but the its founders are young men and women in their mid-20s who retain complete financial and administrative control of the groups.

As I have regularly pointed out - Never worked for WHO nor did a traineeship for UN. He's a public health expert not an activist with academic and professional training in public health, planning commission story is made-up. His father never worked in Bhojpur although he did work as a doctor in the Government of Bihar. Only his mother is from Balia. Never worked in Chad.

In the context of what I have mentioned above, do let me know how this information can be incorporated in Prashant's page. Thanks Paroma Bhat (talk) 06:14, 1 December 2015 (UTC)