User talk:Mismanagingeditor

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Hello, Mismanagingeditor! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. You may benefit from following some of the links below, which will help you get the most out of Wikipedia. If you have any questions you can ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking or by typing four tildes "~~~~"; this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you are already excited about Wikipedia, you might want to consider being "adopted" by a more experienced editor or joining a WikiProject to collaborate with others in creating and improving articles of your interest. Click here for a directory of all the WikiProjects. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field when making edits to pages. Happy editing! Aristophanes68 (talk) 21:58, 23 September 2014 (UTC) Getting Started Contributing to Wikipedia The five pillars of Wikipedia • Tutorial • Your first article How to: edit a page • upload an image Getting Help Frequently Asked Questions New contributors' help page Where to: ask questions • make requests Request administrator attention Policies and Guidelines Neutral point of view • Reliable sources Verifiability • Citing sources • No original research What Wikipedia is not • Biographies of living persons Simplified Manual of Style • Three-revert rule Copyrights • Policy for non-free content • Image use policy External links • Spam • Vandalism • Sock puppetry Deletion policy • Conflict of interest • Notability The Community Community Portal • Adopt-a-user program Assume good faith • Civility • Etiquette No personal attacks • Resolving disputes Build consensus • Village pump IRC channels • Mailing lists Discover what's going on in the Wikimedia community (The Signpost) Things to do Be bold in editing • Help develop an article Maintenance • Peer review • Requested articles Join a WikiProject • Translating articles Cleaning up: General • Spam • Vandalism Miscellaneous Categories • Disambiguity • Stubs User pages • Talk pages Useful templates • Tools • User scripts

March 2015

Hello, I'm Amortias. An edit that you recently made to Myron Cohen seemed to be a test and has been removed. If you want more practice editing, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks! Amortias (T)(C) 20:31, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

The cavalry is here

Hi, Mismanaging! I'm happy to help, so feel free to post any questions that you have here on your Talk page -- I'll watch for them. Browse through the links left by Aristophanes at the top of this page, starting with the "Getting Started" ones, and the policy ones. Let me make three initial observations:

• Your username is a little unfortunate, because people who come to Wikipedia to be difficult often choose a name like this. Your colleagues here might be less nervous to see that a change was made by someone called Diligenthelpfuleditor, etc.
• When you make a comment on a Talk page, please sign your comment by adding four tildes without spaces, like this: ~~~~ That instructs the Wiki software to automatically add your username and a date stamp.
• When you add information to an article, cite your source at the end of the sentence, like so: <ref>Smith, John. [url "Obituary: Jim Jones"], ''The New York Times'', March 27, 2015, p. 16</ref>. Don't worry if you don't get the formatting right the first few times, if you leave all of the bibliographic information about your source, someone will help format it.

So, ask me anything! -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:31, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you Ssilvers

Aha...I did not know about the difficult person problem. I'll change the name if it's an obstacle and I will be careful about attempting humor. I understand now about the tildes, thank you for that.

What is a little confusing to me is this: It appeared from the instructions that an edit should be explained in the comment box...which I did, and I mentioned the source there, which was already in the article. But I did not formally use a reference notation because I was not adding a source, but rather pointing out the correct info was in the source already listed. So that was wrong? I should always formally notate the reference even if it's already listed as the source of the article? I just want to be sure I have this right. Thanks!Mismanagingeditor (talk) 09:45, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Yes, unfortunately because Wikipedians are busy, and because collaborative editing can lead to disagreements, humor can be lost here. If you encounter a lot of suspicion regarding your edits, you might consider changing your username, but maybe it will be OK. Your edit summary was fine, but the citation needs to go in the text, rather than the edit summary. Sources should always be cited immediately after the material that they support. They can be cited multiple times within an article, if the source is used more than once. Since the citation was already given once in the Myron Cohen article, you just needed to *repeat* it immediately after the statement that it supports. This shows what I did to fix it.. If you want to use a source a second time, here is what you do: Let's say that the source is a person's New York Times obituary: First, click on the edit tab to reveal the edit screen. Then, find the <ref> tab at the beginning of the reference that you want to repeat. Expand the ref tab to a "ref name=" tab, like this: <ref name=TimesObit>. Then, go to the later sentence where the information is supported by the obituary, and add this at the end of the sentence: <ref name=TimesObit/>. Note the backslash at the end. Then add your edit summary and save. If you have trouble with getting the ref tags to work properly, you can either enlist my help, or you can go to the article's Talk page, start a new heading on the talk page, like ==Help needed to add citation== and explain that you are new to Wiki mark-up, and ask if someone could please help you to add the citation after the 3rd sentence of the 4th paragraph under the heading "Later career", or wherever. Makes sense? -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:41, 27 March 2015 (UTC)